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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (1 Viewer)

So where are stations 1,2,4,5 and 6? Elsewhere on the island or somwhere else entirely?Orientation tape 3 of 6?...hmmm

 
I thought they almost answered a little bit too much tonight, as odd as that sounds.

Guess I preferred the mystery of the hatch more than the explanation.

 
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Is it some way possible the whole Island is an experiment? And I am including the whole plane crash as being faked or staged somehow...possible through drugs or something... who the F knows...Maybe none of it is real for these "survivors"...They're all in matrix like pods and this is some test...

 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm
At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm

At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)

It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
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It wasn't The Third Policeman....it was The Turn of the Screw. :shrug:

 
Did anyone catch the name of the guy Desmond said brought him down into the hatch? Is it someone we have seen before or heard of?

 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm

At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)

It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
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It wasn't The Third Policeman....it was The Turn of the Screw. :shrug:
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Also picked up the Third Policeman.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm

At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)

It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
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It wasn't The Third Policeman....it was The Turn of the Screw. :shrug:
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Also picked up the Third Policeman.
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In the same shot?
 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm

At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)

It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
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It wasn't The Third Policeman....it was The Turn of the Screw. :shrug:
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Also picked up the Third Policeman.
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In the same shot?
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Not sure it matters but I can't remember if we saw the books in the flashbacks or in the hatch.....

 
I think we can guess now that Dharma controls the island. They put the hatch there, I would be willing to bet they created the 'monster' and the 'sickness' and they put the magentic pull there to draw people onto the island.I would imagine they have some sort of observatory where they watch how these people act when stranded on an island, when faced with a sickness, when faced with a monster and if they would actually sit there and push a button every 108 minutes due to some irrational fear of something happening. I also think the others are just a group of people who got there earlier and happen to have adapted in another fashion. Basically, the island is just one big psych experiment.

 
I think we can guess now that Dharma controls the island. They put the hatch there, I would be willing to bet they created the 'monster' and the 'sickness' and they put the magentic pull there to draw people onto the island.

I would imagine they have some sort of observatory where they watch how these people act when stranded on an island, when faced with a sickness, when faced with a monster and if they would actually sit there and push a button every 108 minutes due to some irrational fear of something happening.

I also think the others are just a group of people who got there earlier and happen to have adapted in another fashion.

Basically, the island is just one big psych experiment.
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Possibly, but the tail survivors <> The Others. Maybe The Others = Dharma.

 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm

At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)

It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
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The Third Policeman is Flann O'Brien's brilliantly dark comic novel about the nature of time, death, and existence. Told by a narrator who has committed a botched robbery and brutal murder, the novel follows him and his adventures in a two-dimensional police station where, through the theories of the scientist/philosopher de Selby, he is introduced to "Atomic Theory" and its relation to bicycles, the existence of eternity (which turns out to be just down the road), and de Selby's view that the earth is not round but "sausage-shaped." With the help of his newly found soul named "Joe," he grapples with the riddles and contradictions that three eccentric policeman present to him.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/ne...iterature_x.htm

At one point, someone will pick up a copy of the novel The Third Policeman by the late Irish writer Flann O'Brien. The cover will be seen for about a second, ABC confirms. (Related story: Lost in the details)

It will be featured at a "key moment" in the show, Craig Wright, who co-wrote the episode with Javier Grillo-Marxuach, told the Chicago Tribune. Wright also said anyone familiar with the book will "have a lot more ammunition" in dissecting Lost plotlines
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Get on it people.
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It wasn't The Third Policeman....it was The Turn of the Screw. :shrug:
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Also picked up the Third Policeman.
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In the same shot?
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Not sure it matters but I can't remember if we saw the books in the flashbacks or in the hatch.....
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It was in the hatch, but not on the bookshelf like The Turn of the Screw. It was in Desmond's locker that he was getting all of his stuff out of when he was running. Same place as the picture of Desmond and the girl.
 
Who the heck would build a silo type hatch with a ladder, a lock, a useless window with a freaking front door like a hundred feet away?The writing is getting a little weaker - this and Sawyer digging out the bullet with his fingers and bleeding all night - and he's walking around fine.And what was the emotional moment where Desmond recognized Jack? Big whoop!

 
#1 I didn't pick this up on my own, but it sparked me to think about the real answer. There was a logo on the shark... not sure if it was covered in this thread. The logo had the same look as the ones in Desmond's hatch, but the center was different. We learned in this episode that Desmond's logo is a swan. The one on the shark looked like a dark circle with a white line through it.We learned from the orientation movie that there were 6 experiments. The swan experiment was to measure the electromagnetic properties "of that part of the island." I'm pretty sure that's a direct quote from the movie, so that would lead me to believe that the other 5 experiments were also contained on the island.What does this mean? I don't know. The animals were probably one section of the experiment... maybe this was covered in the movie. Maybe the Others were part of another part of the experiment. Walt has psychic powers and that was another part of the experiment from the movie. Maybe the Others are trying to progress with that portion of Dharma.#2 Like Capella, I was hoping it would drag out a little bit more. I mean, I want answers just like everyone else, but everything just seems to be moving extremely fast and especially in this last episode. This show was full of suspense that was lacking IMO in "Orientation."Will I stop watching? Are you crazy? I just don't like the direction, or more to the point, the speed at which we are progressing right now.

 
Also, Locke's father didn't say that he has conned other people, but he did say, "Do you think you're the first person that got conned?" Could he be the real Sawyer? I think it's a longshot, but an interesting reference.BTW, I think it's "Kelvin," not "Calvin." Could be the Australian pronounciation, but Locke repeated it Kelvin and Desmond acknowleged.

 
I just had it Tivo'd. I didn't see the logo the first time through, but it's clearly visible on the tail.

 
The guy in the movie specifically speaks of the magnetism being in that sector of the island. I'm thinking the other 5 experiments: Meteorology, Psychology, Parapsychology, Electromagnetism, Zoology, and something to to about Industrial Sociology blah, blah, blah, had to be on other parts of the island.I wonder if Danielle has seen other hatches. I can't remember her exact reaction upon seeing the one Locke found though.

 
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I just had it Tivo'd.  I didn't see the logo the first time through, but it's clearly visible on the tail.
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Oh I know it's there. I just wanted to see it to confirm the different animal/shape in the center.
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It didn't look like an animal shape to me, but it definitely wasn't a swan. Also, it looked to me that the guy in the movie had an even different logo in the center.If I knew of a screen-cap, I'd post it.

 
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I thought they almost answered a little bit too much tonight, as odd as that sounds.

Guess I preferred the mystery of the hatch more than the explanation.
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No and last week was so slow that they owed the viewing audience more than the norm!
 
I thought they almost answered a little bit too much tonight, as odd as that sounds.

Guess I preferred the mystery of the hatch more than the explanation.
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No and last week was so slow that they owed the viewing audience more than the norm!
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They should probably answer all the questions so we have nothing to watch anymore. :loco: I'm sure there are plenty of plotlines to pursue, and it just had to be done to get to them. ...at least that's what I'm hoping just happened. Otherwise, they just got rid of the only storyline that created any suspense thus far.

 
I thought they almost answered a little bit too much tonight, as odd as that sounds.

Guess I preferred the mystery of the hatch more than the explanation.
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No and last week was so slow that they owed the viewing audience more than the norm!
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They should probably answer all the questions so we have nothing to watch anymore. :loco: I'm sure there are plenty of plotlines to pursue, and it just had to be done to get to them. ...at least that's what I'm hoping just happened. Otherwise, they just got rid of the only storyline that created any suspense thus far.
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What I'm hoping for.To me, the hatch was the most interesting thing. To just see it all answered, and with such a plain explanation was a little surprising.

Oh, well it's just some guy sitting there pushing buttons. Ok then. See ya guys back at the beach!

:mellow:

 
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the shark logo was just dark with a white line through it in the middle, with the same design around the outside. no link, but tivo'd in HD. if you have it recorded, it's at about 48 minutes into last week's episode.

 
You guys need to relax. Anything short of the Devil himself down the hatch would have disappointed you.Now there are the possibilities of multiple hatches and a potentially diabolical corporation pulling the strings.

 
the shark logo was just dark with a white line through it in the middle, with the same design around the outside. no link, but tivo'd in HD. if you have it recorded, it's at about 48 minutes into last week's episode.
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Could it just be a blurry swan since it was probably on screen for all of 1/64 of a second?
 
You guys need to relax. Anything short of the Devil himself down the hatch would have disappointed you.

Now there are the possibilities of multiple hatches and a potentially diabolical corporation pulling the strings.
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Please. Remember all the hype last year when they first found the hatch? All the speculation? Now imagine I told you there was some tool down there pushing buttons and drinking powdered milkshakes...would you still be as excited?
 
the shark logo was just dark with a white line through it in the middle, with the same design around the outside. no link, but tivo'd in HD. if you have it recorded, it's at about 48 minutes into last week's episode.
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Could it just be a blurry swan since it was probably on screen for all of 1/64 of a second?
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tivo+pause+high definition=clear still picture. No swan, no other animal. Just a white line through the middle.
 
This is a total longshot, but if each of the Dharma symbols revealed so far are different, perhaps the animal inside the symbol (if all the symbols have animals) represent the type of experiment being conducted in that area where the particular symbol is used. Might be a coincidence, but a swan is a migratory bird, and some migratory birds have been shown to have a "homing" mechanism that depends on the Earth's electromagnetic field. Makes me more interested in what appears in the other Dharma symbols (such as on the shark), if anyone has figured it out yet.

 
I cannot believe that folks are complaining about too much info when the complaint was not enough prior. Good lord.
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Pretty sure I've never logged this complaint. I like the pace the show was on.
 
Another thing realized tonight:

4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42 = 108 (same as the minutes, the numbers show up again)

This is an interesting theory on what's going on:

http://www.ericd.net/2005_09_18_blogger_ar...735774691079919
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That math was done here long ago.That theory is a hoax.
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Fair enough, but the Doppleganger aspect could still be at play."A Wrinkle In Time" by Madeleine L'Engle is the one of the three books discussed from this season that's yet to come to fruition yet. The other two (about absurb things happening and rabbits escaping to find shelter) have already come to pass.

 
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Anyone else get the thought when watching Locke with his dad in the car that the writers were trying to set us up for a disappointment (i.e. con)? If it turns out the entire show is in someone's head ala Identity there are going to be a lot of pissed off viewers.

 
somewhere in the movie they mention 540, I don't remember the context... 5x108=540.. the five could represent the other Dharma Stations...what abou the Greg stations.. would be nice to see Jenna elfman scamping around the beach.. with the all to absent boone's nekid step sister...

 
New website for the Hanso Corp.

Hanso

I think its legit, but who knows? There is a hidden link under "Active Projects" but no info as of yet...

 
After last night's episode, I've got a lot of new thoughts.I'm definitely still holding on to my "experiments" theory.When Locke was talking on the phone last year trying to convince a woman to go to Australia with him. Wasn't her name Helen? Last year most, if not all, of us were thinking she was some sort of "adult phone companion." Guess she wasn't.I'm growing more and more convinced that "The Others" are from different DHARMA installations on the island. The founder of DHARMA from the movie had a bushy beard, right? Didn't the guy on the boat that took Walt have a bushy beard as well? It was longer and more grey, but if the "movie" was shot years ago, it could make sense.Ethan, last season, seemed able to appear almost out of nowhere. Did he come out of concealed hatch doors? Or is there a tunnel system as I've theorized previously?I'm also of the belief that the Shark is from another experiment/installation. Is there an underwater hatch?One of the experiments was Parapsychology. Could this explain the "visions" of Jack's dad and Walt that Jack and Shannon have seen. Earlier in this thread someone mentioned seeing the closed captioning of the "whispers" in the forest being the voices of a man and a woman. Is it a large reach to think that these voices and whispers are the voices of the man and woman who created DHARMA and they're letting people who are alone in the jungle hear them as part of the experiments?The picture of the girl in Desmonds locker, in the brief glimpse I got from it, looked a little like Jack's wife, but I wouldn't think this is possible.Looks like they got us with Ana-Lucia. Pretty slick on the LOTF crews part.WTF is up with this Jin speaking english stuff? All I heard him say in last night's episode was "Others" was him speaking English in the previews for next week? I didn't get that here in Canada, what'd he say?

 
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New website for the Hanso Corp. 

Hanso

I think its legit, but who knows?  There is a hidden link under "Active Projects" but no info as of yet...
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I think it's another ABC setup website. The picture of Alvar Hanso is the one they showed on Lost last night, and a google search of his name doesn't get me any legit returns. If he actually made an address to the UN Security council, there'd be a google hit on him. If you go to the "terms of use" link at the bottom of the page, you get redirected to a Walt Disney Internet Group "terms of use" page.

The "Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute" brings you to a URL that ends with JEDI. Sweet!

What I did find interesting was that if you click the links that tell you that you're not authorized to view them, in the the final salutation is the word "Namaste" Namaste is a Hindu greeting. I found this about the meaning of Namaste

" In Sanskrit "Namas" means, "bow, obeisance, reverential

salutation." It comes from the root Nam, which carries meanings

of bending, bowing, humbly submitting and becoming silent. "Te"

means "to you." Thus "namaste" means "I bow to you." the act of

greeting is called "Namaskaram," "Namaskara" and "Namaskar" in

the varied languages of the subcontinent."

If DHARMA was set up in the 70's, this is a time when Eastern religions/philosophies were quite popular and it just goes to show the lengths that the producers are going with these - pseudo-sites.

 
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After last night's episode, I've got a lot of new thoughts.

I'm definitely still holding on to my "experiments" theory.

When Locke was talking on the phone last year trying to convince a woman to go to Australia with him. Wasn't her name Helen? Last year most, if not all, of us were thinking she was some sort of "adult phone companion." Guess she wasn't.

I'm growing more and more convinced that "The Others" are from different DHARMA installations on the island. The founder of DHARMA from the movie had a bushy beard, right? Didn't the guy on the boat that took Walt have a bushy beard as well? It was longer and more grey, but if the "movie" was shot years ago, it could make sense.

Ethan, last season, seemed able to appear almost out of nowhere. Did he come out of concealed hatch doors? Or is there a tunnel system as I've theorized previously?

I'm also of the belief that the Shark is from another experiment/installation. Is there an underwater hatch?

One of the experiments was Parapsychology. Could this explain the "visions" of Jack's dad and Walt that Jack and Shannon have seen.

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned seeing the closed captioning of the "whispers" in the forest being the voices of a man and a woman. Is it a large reach to think that these voices and whispers are the voices of the man and woman who created DHARMA and they're letting people who are alone in the jungle hear them as part of the experiments?

The picture of the girl in Desmonds locker, in the brief glimpse I got from it, looked a little like Jack's wife, but I wouldn't think this is possible.

Looks like they got us with Ana-Lucia. Pretty slick on the LOTF crews part.

WTF is up with this Jin speaking english stuff? All I heard him say in last night's episode was "Others" was him speaking English in the previews for next week? I didn't get that here in Canada, what'd he say?
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:yes: I'm convinced, as others here are, that there are five more 'hatches' on the island. Some may be in better shape than others. Like the one last season where the girl was getting dragged down one of the hatches by the nanobots. Also, what about the collapsed tunnel opening in Desmond's hatch? Maybe his predecesor(s) purposely collapsed that tunnel so the other DHARMA people couldn't get to them? Maybe this was one of the tunnels that runs under the island to who knows where?

 
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