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**** OFFICIAL Marvel's Avengers: Endgame **** SPOILERS ALLOWED! Enter at your own risk!!! (1 Viewer)

For each scene at the end, they did not say what year it was. Peter's scene could easily be from 2018 and the sequel this summer may explain the rest... with that movies ending taken place in 2023... so Peter in high school did not, necessarily, occur, in 2023, like many have suggested.
So Peter Parker came back in 2023, like everyone else, then stole a time travel band, figured out how to use the quantum platform, then went back to 2018 just to see his friends and get dusted again.

That makes sense.

 
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I dont remember this being discussed. If it has, link me up

Didnt Spidey say that Dr. Strange was hyping everyone up after they were all dusted. I want to know what that looked like. Was it only the supers he was talking to or could all dusted people hang with them. And talk about a long 5 years. Just floating around and waiting. At least in the quantum realm time basically stands still. 

 
I dont remember this being discussed. If it has, link me up

Didnt Spidey say that Dr. Strange was hyping everyone up after they were all dusted. I want to know what that looked like. Was it only the supers he was talking to or could all dusted people hang with them. And talk about a long 5 years. Just floating around and waiting. At least in the quantum realm time basically stands still. 
I was envisioning like sleep, then Steve was talking after they came back where they were, then teleported to Earth.

 
Not that anyone needs my review but I thought it was awesome. I was particularly surprised and happy about how fast they were all reunited and out to kill Thanos at the beginning. Thor chopping Thanos was awesome. I doubt I’ll get a window to see it in theater again but I won’t hesitate if an opportunity presents. 

That said, I thought Infinity War was superior. Both fantastic entertainment. 

 
Any time there is time travel, I know I'm just going to have to grin and bear it.  It gets so messy.  I know what they were doing with Cap at the end and it's a great finish, but it should have created an alternate timeline that would have prevented Cap from walking up to the bench.

Anyway, minor nitpick as with any time travel.  Loved how they called it out in the movie as well (Wait, Back to the Future was all BS?)
Doctor Who has it figured out quite nicely...wibbly wobbly timey wimey. :D

Anyhow, Cap looked like he was in his 70s sitting on that bench. By all rights, he ought to be closer to 105.

 
Opening weekend numbers are in. 

$1.2 billion worldwide.  Shattering Infinity Wars’ $640 million record. It is on pace to challenge The Force Awakens for all time box office.

And Sony, which could have bought the entire catalogue of Marvel rights in the late 90s for $25 million instead of just Spider Man for $7 million, softly cries itself to sleep. 

 
Opening weekend numbers are in. 

$1.2 billion worldwide.  Shattering Infinity Wars’ $640 million record. It is on pace to challenge The Force Awakens for all time box office.

And Sony, which could have bought the entire catalogue of Marvel rights in the late 90s for $25 million instead of just Spider Man for $7 million, softly cries itself to sleep. 
If Spider-Man is any evidence of what Sony would have done, they never in a million universes would have been able to replicate what marvel has done in this series. Just unreal.   

 
Just came back from the show. Awesome, Awesome stuff. Tons of fun and really what going to the movies is all about (for me). Plenty of action, plenty of drama, a ton of laughs, a great story.

I know they can't /won't, but Marvel should just stop here 

 
I didn’t give a review, and not that anyone cares, but I thought it was awesome.  What a perfect epic ending to an epic series of movies. Lots of genius behind it all.  I admit I cried.  Not like a baby, but a couple actual tears.

I feel like I missed a ton of details. I’m not a guy who sees stuff in the theaters more than once, but whenever it comes out on streaming I’ll look forward to seeing it again. 

 
If Spider-Man is any evidence of what Sony would have done, they never in a million universes would have been able to replicate what marvel has done in this series. Just unreal.   
Who did spider-verse? That was pretty awesome, although you probably couldn't do 22 movies from it

 
Just came back from the show. Awesome, Awesome stuff. Tons of fun and really what going to the movies is all about (for me). Plenty of action, plenty of drama, a ton of laughs, a great story.

I know they can't /won't, but Marvel should just stop here 
The epilogue being the summer Spider-Man movie. 

 
Two questions.

Why was Capt America all of a sudden able to weild Thor's hammer? (Also what's the point of making Thor fat).

Why couldn't Tony Stark handle the power of the glove?

 
I dont remember this being discussed. If it has, link me up

Didnt Spidey say that Dr. Strange was hyping everyone up after they were all dusted. I want to know what that looked like. Was it only the supers he was talking to or could all dusted people hang with them. And talk about a long 5 years. Just floating around and waiting. At least in the quantum realm time basically stands still. 
That is one thing that no one is really bringing up.  The fact that the dusted people knew that they were dusted and are now back. What a total mind trip that must be for them and then Dr Strange having to give the run down to Spider Man and the Guardians before slinging everyone back to Earth for the final battle royal would be an amazing extra scene for the director's cut dvd release later on.

 
If Spider-Man is any evidence of what Sony would have done, they never in a million universes would have been able to replicate what marvel has done in this series. Just unreal.   
One brave decision made this franchise and it was Jon Favreau telling the studio he would personally insure Robert Downey, Jr. for Iron Man when no insurer would touch him because of his addict past. 

 
I found the fat Thor bit a little goofy and distracting. Goodball thor is kind of funny I guess but also sort of a joke. 

Probably my least favorite thing about the movie. 

 
One brave decision made this franchise and it was Jon Favreau telling the studio he would personally insure Robert Downey, Jr. for Iron Man when no insurer would touch him because of his addict past. 
That’s not the only thing that made this franchise. It was an awesome start but they could have started and ended with the iron man movies and it would have been a success. 

It was the continued great writing and casting and directing and storytelling, through a whole bunch of different movies. Including cap and the avengers movies. Captain marvel was also way better than I expected. They just didn’t make bad movies.  

 
That’s not the only thing that made this franchise. It was an awesome start but they could have started and ended with the iron man movies and it would have been a success. 

It was the continued great writing and casting and directing and storytelling, through a whole bunch of different movies. Including cap and the avengers movies. Captain marvel was also way better than I expected. They just didn’t make bad movies.  
:goodposting:  And this has to be peak-Marvel right? I mean I know they are doing more movies and another phase and all that. And I’m looking forward to more and will throw all the money at them. But there’s no way they duplicate all this again, right? The characters just aren’t as a big at a minimum I would guess.

Again, don’t get me wrong, I’ll be seeing all they make. This isn’t a knock, in fact it’s a complement of how awesome the run was. Just can’t imagine being this hyped again. 

 
I should add movies I’d be sure would be lame, like GOTG and Dr Strange, were also great. 

This wasn’t just about RDjr. Yes he was fantastic and the centerpiece, but it took a lot more than him to do what they did all these years. 

 
Robert Downey Jr. was great and all but Iron Man 2 & 3 sucked. Also the first two Thor movies sucked and first Captain America was average. What got this series kick started imo was that first Avengers movie connecting everything. Every movie after that was top notch expect for iron man 3 and thor 2.

 
I should add movies I’d be sure would be lame, like GOTG and Dr Strange, were also great. 

This wasn’t just about RDjr. Yes he was fantastic and the centerpiece, but it took a lot more than him to do what they did all these years. 
When they figured out exactly how to mix the humor into the comic book action, that was when they really picked up steam and started to roll with all of the more random characters.

 
I should add movies I’d be sure would be lame, like GOTG and Dr Strange, were also great. 

This wasn’t just about RDjr. Yes he was fantastic and the centerpiece, but it took a lot more than him to do what they did all these years. 
Of course it did.  But if anyone else had been Tony Stark this whole thing would have died on the vine. 

 
Two questions.

Why was Capt America all of a sudden able to weild Thor's hammer? (Also what's the point of making Thor fat).

Why couldn't Tony Stark handle the power of the glove?
1. Who knows.  I figured if everybody he was worthy.  He did seem to be more mature in this movie, so maybe he crossed the “worthy” line. 

2. My best thought is the Thor from the end of IW would have destroyed Thanos without the glove (especially if he has both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker).  Plus, the ending was about wrapping up IM and CA story arcs.  So how do we power down Thor?  They made him fat and out of shape, both physically and mentally. 

3. It would appear the stones are too powerful for mortals to use (such as the lady at the collector blowing herself up when he touched one).  Now you have them all in the gauntlet - even Hulk, the gamma furnace could barely handle it and it disabled him.  The power released by the snap was too much and killed him. 

 
I can't shake the feeling that it's all over now.  The story arc is done, everything important is wrapped up with a nice bow.  All stand-alone movies moving forward will feel tiny and un-important in scope.

Introducing new characters will feel...I don't know....like a money grab - Disney milking it.  Nothing will be able to top Infinity War + Endgame.

Then again, I didn't think anything could top Avengers 1 so...

 
It felt odd to have no after scene. I get that they clearly wanted this movie to stand alone as a bookend to the past ten years but now the next movies feel kind of disjointed. 

Black Panther was excellent, but now begs the question of what the point of a second movie will be? I’m surprised they didn’t at least tease the next arc at all in this one. I’m sure they’ll do it eventually, but the next movie (Spider-Man?) will have to kickstart the next arc without much of a lead in. 

 
Maybe we don't need another one in this series.  Maybe closure is OK.  I can live with that.

Truly, it was a good run.

 
It felt odd to have no after scene. I get that they clearly wanted this movie to stand alone as a bookend to the past ten years but now the next movies feel kind of disjointed. 

Black Panther was excellent, but now begs the question of what the point of a second movie will be? I’m surprised they didn’t at least tease the next arc at all in this one. I’m sure they’ll do it eventually, but the next movie (Spider-Man?) will have to kickstart the next arc without much of a lead in. 
If the post-credit sound was Dr Doom hammering his armor, then they did tease the next arc.

 
I imagine this take will get some disagreement. Or a lot.  But I think Joss Whedon probably had more to do with the MCU success than RDJr.  Which isn't diminishing how awesome Downey was.

Before Whedon they had a couple of decent movies but nothing special. They were 'normal' movies really.  Whedon is the one that laid down in Avengers the blueprint for what was going to succeed for the MCU.  And I would add that other excellent choices of directors to follow him also played a humongous role. 

Maybe the producers deserve more credit for Avengers than I'm giving them.  Obviously Whedon only did 2 of the pictures, but I think they learned from what he did in Avengers and that drove a lot of it.  As a long-time fan of Whedon's, that movie had his fingerprints all over it. The humor, the storytelling, the twists, the setup for future events.   But I admit I'm a total fan boy too.

 
Doctor Who has it figured out quite nicely...wibbly wobbly timey wimey. :D

Anyhow, Cap looked like he was in his 70s sitting on that bench. By all rights, he ought to be closer to 105.
He doesn't age as normal humans would so it makes sense that at 105 he would look 70.

 
I found the fat Thor bit a little goofy and distracting. Goodball thor is kind of funny I guess but also sort of a joke. 

Probably my least favorite thing about the movie. 
I thought it was funny but I figured at some point he would be shown doing some weights and would get back to shape. It didn’t bother me at all but it was weird they took it all the way through. 

 
I can't shake the feeling that it's all over now.  The story arc is done, everything important is wrapped up with a nice bow.  All stand-alone movies moving forward will feel tiny and un-important in scope.

Introducing new characters will feel...I don't know....like a money grab - Disney milking it.  Nothing will be able to top Infinity War + Endgame.

Then again, I didn't think anything could top Avengers 1 so...
I’d be surprised if anything ever tops it but they still can make great, fun movies. Something doesn’t have to be the best thing ever for it to be an enjoyable trip to the movies.   

 
I imagine this take will get some disagreement. Or a lot.  But I think Joss Whedon probably had more to do with the MCU success than RDJr.  Which isn't diminishing how awesome Downey was.

Before Whedon they had a couple of decent movies but nothing special. They were 'normal' movies really.  Whedon is the one that laid down in Avengers the blueprint for what was going to succeed for the MCU.  And I would add that other excellent choices of directors to follow him also played a humongous role. 

Maybe the producers deserve more credit for Avengers than I'm giving them.  Obviously Whedon only did 2 of the pictures, but I think they learned from what he did in Avengers and that drove a lot of it.  As a long-time fan of Whedon's, that movie had his fingerprints all over it. The humor, the storytelling, the twists, the setup for future events.   But I admit I'm a total fan boy too.
Kevin Feige is the biggest reason for the MCU success and I don’t think it’s particularly close. 

 
If the post-credit sound was Dr Doom hammering his armor, then they did tease the next arc.
Good point, though everything I’ve read says it’s the noise of Stark building his first Iron Man suit. 

Though it would be a fun twist if even the real noise was the Iron Man suit build but a tease to another metal suit wearer (Doom). 

 
Kevin Feige is the biggest reason for the MCU success and I don’t think it’s particularly close. 
While he definitely guided it, I don't know that they were on a track to achieve what they did until Avengers showed the way forward of how to make the comic movies work with the public at large.  Obviously he shepherded them forward the rest of the way, but I think Whedon set them on the right path.

 
While he definitely guided it, I don't know that they were on a track to achieve what they did until Avengers showed the way forward of how to make the comic movies work with the public at large.  Obviously he shepherded them forward the rest of the way, but I think Whedon set them on the right path.
Feige is definitely a key component to all of this happening. He let the writers and directors lay out the vision and he got then the resources they needed and didn't get in their way. He kept them on task to the plan and they followed it through to the end. 

We've seen what can happen when someone who doesn't understand a major property leads it and tries to put their stamp on it (Kathleen Kennedy).

 
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Opening weekend numbers are in. 

$1.2 billion worldwide.  Shattering Infinity Wars’ $640 million record. It is on pace to challenge The Force Awakens for all time box office.
You know how long it will take Endgame to pass The For...oh wait, it just did.

 
Two questions.

Why was Capt America all of a sudden able to weild Thor's hammer? (Also what's the point of making Thor fat).

Why couldn't Tony Stark handle the power of the glove?
Because he's worthy. It's been discussed about 10 times in this thread.

Because Tony simply wasn't powerful enough to wield that kind of power and live. It almost killed Hulk too.

 
One brave decision made this franchise and it was Jon Favreau telling the studio he would personally insure Robert Downey, Jr. for Iron Man when no insurer would touch him because of his addict past. 
Wow, I did not know that. Great call by Favreau, and brave too.

ETA: But I'm sure Tom Cruise would have been perfectly adequate enough to...sink the whole franchise before it ever got out of drydock.

 
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Because he's worthy. It's been discussed about 10 times in this thread.

Because Tony simply wasn't powerful enough to wield that kind of power and live. It almost killed Hulk too.
Even more so, the infinity stone usage wrecked Thanos too, which is even more a show of their power.

 
Good point, though everything I’ve read says it’s the noise of Stark building his first Iron Man suit. 

Though it would be a fun twist if even the real noise was the Iron Man suit build but a tease to another metal suit wearer (Doom). 
Both. 

End at the start, start at the previous end. 

 
I imagine this take will get some disagreement. Or a lot.  But I think Joss Whedon probably had more to do with the MCU success than RDJr.  Which isn't diminishing how awesome Downey was.

Before Whedon they had a couple of decent movies but nothing special. They were 'normal' movies really.  Whedon is the one that laid down in Avengers the blueprint for what was going to succeed for the MCU.  And I would add that other excellent choices of directors to follow him also played a humongous role. 

Maybe the producers deserve more credit for Avengers than I'm giving them.  Obviously Whedon only did 2 of the pictures, but I think they learned from what he did in Avengers and that drove a lot of it.  As a long-time fan of Whedon's, that movie had his fingerprints all over it. The humor, the storytelling, the twists, the setup for future events.   But I admit I'm a total fan boy too.
Whedon is overrated. Favreau laid down the initial roadmap for the movies. Feige means more to the franchise than both. 

 


2. My best thought is the Thor from the end of IW would have destroyed Thanos without the glove (especially if he has both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker).  Plus, the ending was about wrapping up IM and CA story arcs.  So how do we power down Thor?  They made him fat and out of shape, both physically and mentally. 

No. Thanos would beat Thor one-on-one under any circumstance (obviously unless the scene required otherwise). There is always a power discrepancy/inconsistency but Thanos is one of the biggest bads in the history of comics. Yes it's the MCU, not the comics, but he beat Thor and all the Asgardians at the beginning of IW and the Russo Bros said Thanos wouldn't have needed the gauntlet to defeat Hulk. 

No Thanks>>>Thor

 
It felt odd to have no after scene. I get that they clearly wanted this movie to stand alone as a bookend to the past ten years but now the next movies feel kind of disjointed. 

Black Panther was excellent, but now begs the question of what the point of a second movie will be? I’m surprised they didn’t at least tease the next arc at all in this one. I’m sure they’ll do it eventually, but the next movie (Spider-Man?) will have to kickstart the next arc without much of a lead in. 
Iron Man had zero lead in. If Marvel has demonstrated anything, it's patience.

We should do the same.  It took us 10 years to get here, so get comfortable.

 
I thought it was funny but I figured at some point he would be shown doing some weights and would get back to shape. It didn’t bother me at all but it was weird they took it all the way through. 
I too felt this film was lacking a solid workout montage.

 
While he definitely guided it, I don't know that they were on a track to achieve what they did until Avengers showed the way forward of how to make the comic movies work with the public at large.  Obviously he shepherded them forward the rest of the way, but I think Whedon set them on the right path.
It's a great point. Joss Whedon has acknowledged that he really didn't know where the Thanos post-credit scene was going but that it was important to have it in there.

 

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