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**** OFFICIAL Marvel's Avengers: Endgame **** SPOILERS ALLOWED! Enter at your own risk!!! (1 Viewer)
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James Daulton
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Yep, just SJW pandering at its worse. Nothing to do with having lots of all men shots and thinking an all women shot would be cool.
GregR
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Had there not been a weird defensive wave regarding the pandering discussion the whole conversation wouldn't have gone very far.
The angst is pretty one sided.
Maggie Hendricks had a decent take on it last night on the score. "This is totally fanservice and to shut up us feminists but... it was still really cool"
Hawks64
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Hawks64
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bigbottom
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm the one who brought it up. Wasn't my intent for it to become the debate it did.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
bigbottom
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Chaka
Footballguy
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
For me, that was almost everything Downey Jr. said. He's too good of an actor to reduce his own part to mostly mumbling.
Chaka
Footballguy
He spoke very quickly, almost old school Popeyesque, but he didn't mumble.
It's things like that that make rewatching these films so much fun. Each time you catch something new.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
Why am I so attracted to the green woman?
Insein
Footballguy
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
Yes, but I am only moderately attracted to Zoe Saldana.
I am exponentially more attracted to Gamora
GregR
Footballguy
Had the day off, went to a matinee today. Third viewing. Still held up great. A few more comments and thoughts.
There was talk in here about Hulk holding the Time Stone. They never actually show him hold it. Sorc Supreme looks like she's putting it in his open hand but the view is a combo of blocked and off-screen. Suppose he could have had something to put it in, or had it hovering like she and Strange do with it.
I wonder if their plan for why Tony knew the date in 1970 is they are planning to tell Old Cap's story and work in the date being given to Tony somewhere in it. Though that would seem like Back to the Future time travel if so. So hopefully that wasn't their plan. But I wondered if what he said, and how he said it, was because Cap would know but doesn't in his own timeline yet.
I hadn't really paid attention the first two viewings to Bucky as Cap goes back in time. But someone here mentioned his behavior and I focused on it. Yes, his demeanor suggested he definitely knew Cap was not planning to come back. And while the others are freaking and trying to figure out what went wrong, he just turns away like he was expecting it. However, he expressed surprise when he spots Old Cap sitting there. So he wasn't in on that part anyway.
When they are putting the infinity stones together in the gauntlet that Hulk uses... I don't recall ever noticing Rocket's scaring everyone during the tense moment. I was probably still thinking about Nat's death too much to notice. It was good though.
I think another reason for having Banner+Hulk together as they did... is the story needed to have someone use the IG to undo the snap and show just how badly it hurt them. So when Tony uses it we're prepared that it should kill him. Thor is the only other option and you really need him in the big Thanos fight. Or Capt Marvel and you don't want her in the picture at that point and available for the Thanos fight. So that pretty much leaves Hulk. And raging Hulk could never do the the snap, so it had to be Banner's mind and Hulk's body.
There was talk in here about Hulk holding the Time Stone. They never actually show him hold it. Sorc Supreme looks like she's putting it in his open hand but the view is a combo of blocked and off-screen. Suppose he could have had something to put it in, or had it hovering like she and Strange do with it.
I wonder if their plan for why Tony knew the date in 1970 is they are planning to tell Old Cap's story and work in the date being given to Tony somewhere in it. Though that would seem like Back to the Future time travel if so. So hopefully that wasn't their plan. But I wondered if what he said, and how he said it, was because Cap would know but doesn't in his own timeline yet.
I hadn't really paid attention the first two viewings to Bucky as Cap goes back in time. But someone here mentioned his behavior and I focused on it. Yes, his demeanor suggested he definitely knew Cap was not planning to come back. And while the others are freaking and trying to figure out what went wrong, he just turns away like he was expecting it. However, he expressed surprise when he spots Old Cap sitting there. So he wasn't in on that part anyway.
When they are putting the infinity stones together in the gauntlet that Hulk uses... I don't recall ever noticing Rocket's scaring everyone during the tense moment. I was probably still thinking about Nat's death too much to notice. It was good though.
I think another reason for having Banner+Hulk together as they did... is the story needed to have someone use the IG to undo the snap and show just how badly it hurt them. So when Tony uses it we're prepared that it should kill him. Thor is the only other option and you really need him in the big Thanos fight. Or Capt Marvel and you don't want her in the picture at that point and available for the Thanos fight. So that pretty much leaves Hulk. And raging Hulk could never do the the snap, so it had to be Banner's mind and Hulk's body.
I'm in the camp that enjoyed the smart Hulk, but I just wish that when the final battle royale rolled around, he would have jumped in with one arm and given it his all. But I can't recall exactly, around that time was he knocked out or incapacitated in some way?
LAUNCH
Footballguy
https://youtu.be/22mm_bFq6mo
Avengers: Endgame Fan Recreates Final Battle in Incredible Stop-Motion Video
Avengers: Endgame Fan Recreates Final Battle in Incredible Stop-Motion Video
Insein
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed. Bucky, like Cap, is also a hundred year old man weary from a life of constant war.
The Big Guy
Fear the Blitz
Wow I am seriously impressed with people who can do this and imagine all of the man hours involved to make a 2 minute video.
The part I tend to think about from the movie:
-tense sense where Tony blames Cap for the Thanos victory and snap
-Tony agrees to help with the time travel provided he doesn't lose the current - specifically his wife and daghter. Cap agrees
-Tony ends up losing those exact things as an indirect result of time travel
Cap = the real villain. (just kidding on that but I would be curious about the exact language in that scene where Tony and Cap talk about the time travel)
-tense sense where Tony blames Cap for the Thanos victory and snap
-Tony agrees to help with the time travel provided he doesn't lose the current - specifically his wife and daghter. Cap agrees
-Tony ends up losing those exact things as an indirect result of time travel
Cap = the real villain. (just kidding on that but I would be curious about the exact language in that scene where Tony and Cap talk about the time travel)
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Insein
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Not sure what you mean. Stark, not knowing the plan, was worried they would try to go back and change the original snap rather than just bring back everyone 5 years later. He was worried his daughter and their life would never exist if they messed things up.
He got what he wanted. He didn't lose them the way he was afraid of, he made the conscious decision to sacrifice himself for all.
If we really wanted to go down the rabbit hole, how many lives would have been saved or kept from being ruined by undoing the original snap instead? How many would have committed suicide, starved, or died in the aftermath of society collapsing (such as planes and helicopters crashing when the pilots blinked out of existence, or say a nuclear power plant lost an operator or two)? Plus you suddenly bring back half the population 5 years later how many are going to commit suicide when they find out their spouse moved on? Or family/friends died in the meantime? Or how many will starve going forward on all those planets now that society has adjusted to there being a few billion less people on a planet? 
Insein
Footballguy
Yep. I had thought this. Just the food supply alone after having adjusted for 5 years to 50% less people and then suddenly having g then all back again. That's a lot of mouths to feed.If we really wanted to go down the rabbit hole, how many lives would have been saved or kept from being ruined by undoing the original snap instead? How many would have committed suicide, starved, or died in the aftermath of society collapsing (such as planes and helicopters crashing when the pilots blinked out of existence, or say a nuclear power plant lost an operator or two)? Plus you suddenly bring back half the population 5 years later how many are going to commit suicide when they find out their spouse moved on? Or family/friends died in the meantime? Or how many will starve going forward on all those planets now that society has adjusted to there being a few billion less people on a planet?
Hawks64
Footballguy
Ted Lange as your Bartender
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How about the people that disappeared while on a plane who then re-appeared five years later in mid-air?If we really wanted to go down the rabbit hole, how many lives would have been saved or kept from being ruined by undoing the original snap instead? How many would have committed suicide, starved, or died in the aftermath of society collapsing (such as planes and helicopters crashing when the pilots blinked out of existence, or say a nuclear power plant lost an operator or two)? Plus you suddenly bring back half the population 5 years later how many are going to commit suicide when they find out their spouse moved on? Or family/friends died in the meantime? Or how many will starve going forward on all those planets now that society has adjusted to there being a few billion less people on a planet?
Jayrod
Footballguy
I like the cut of your jib.
People that disappeared while stationed in submarines?
People that were riding an elevator and were on the 50th floor?
Alien Folks out for pleasure cruise through space?
Those having sex?
Chaka
Footballguy
Or the pregnant people.I like the cut of your jib.
People that disappeared while stationed in submarines?
People that were riding an elevator and were on the 50th floor?
Alien Folks out for pleasure cruise through space?
Those having sex?
"OMG I lost the baby!" <five years later> "WTMFF!!!!!!"
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