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Bracie Smathers
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Doug B
Footballguy
Yep. Archie Manning was the last one.
The Saints had the #1 overall pick in 1981, which was a rough year for QBs. The best available were (in retrospect) Neil Lomax and Wade Wilson. However, the Saints did use a 1981 supplemental pick to select Illinois QB Dave Wilson -- which cost the Saints their 1982 first-round pick (#3 overall). 1982 wasn't much better for QBs, anyway -- Jim McMahon, Art Schlister, and Oliver Luck were top of that crop.
In the 1983 Draft, the Saints would have had the #11 overall pick but traded it to Green Bay in June 1982 for the rights to DT Bruce Clark. Had they stood pat at #11, Jim Kelly and Dan Marino would have been available to them. Tony Eason and Ken O'Brien as well.
Imagine if a Saints fan had a time machine and could go back and go the 1981-83 drafts all over again:
1981, pick 1.01: LB Lawrence Taylor, North Carolina
1982, pick 1.03: RB Marcus Allen, USC
1983, pick 1.11: QB Dan Marino, Pittsburgh
Oh well.
Statorama
Footballguy
Tough loss in GB. They are a lot better (and have a much better coach) than people give them credit for. GB is a tough place to play, I think the Saints steal that one in the dome, but wasn’t meant to be.
It’ll be good to get back home, but Godwin / Evans MUCH greater than GB WRs, which gives me pause. I like the Saints chances even if Jameis starts the game, what say the Saints faithful?
It’ll be good to get back home, but Godwin / Evans MUCH greater than GB WRs, which gives me pause. I like the Saints chances even if Jameis starts the game, what say the Saints faithful?
Doug B
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I saw this post Sunday evening, and never came back to it to reply.
It's very hard to feel any confidence in the Saints' offense right now. When they've won, they've hung on for dear life against not-great opponents. The offensive line is really mired in poor play right now, and having three first-rounders (plus a fourth in backup guard Andrus Peat) and a second-rounder on the line makes it all the more baffling.
Jameis needs to redeem himself as a Saint. He was just beginning to learn Payton's offense when he was hurt in Week 7 of 2021. Whatever Payton taught him seemed to go out of the window by opening day 2022, where Winston seemed to be winging it and the offense was stuck in neutral for three quarters. I'll tell you what ... Drew Brees spoiled us fans good for how a QB should run an offense. Most other QBs just look terrible in comparison.
Doug B
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Not a done deal, but I'd say it's pretty likely at this point -- Jon Gruden under consideration to join Saints staff.
Doug B
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A not unexpected move: Saints fire offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael.
Jon Gruden is still in the building.
Jon Gruden is still in the building.
psychobillies
Footballguy
I really hope they don't trade up.
Statorama
Footballguy
I still have Marcus Davenport nightmares.
Statorama
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Doug B
Footballguy
This story has already come and gone — the Saints made the payment this afternoon.
nittanylion
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Ryan Ramczyk officially OUT for the upcoming 2024 Season. I've read that was a distinct possibility, and had much to to with deciding to use their 1st Rounder to draft OT Fuaga, but now it's official.
Is this already baked in to how folks are viewing the Saints Offense prospects, since the possibility has been on the horizon coming into 2024, or does this add some chips to the 'minus' side of the seesaw?
Is this already baked in to how folks are viewing the Saints Offense prospects, since the possibility has been on the horizon coming into 2024, or does this add some chips to the 'minus' side of the seesaw?
Yogibear
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Justin Simmons visited the team today. I think he's somewhat familiar with the coaching staff, especially the DBs coach. And from what I understand, Dennis Allen was impressed with how things went today. Does that mean he's going to be signed before Week 1? Right now, he's the best free agent still available. He's gone long enough without a new home. I hope the Saints sign Justin Simmons soon.
Yogibear
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I just read on USA Today that it's official. Justin Simmons has signed a one-year deal with the Saints. Don't know the particulars yet. He'll team with Tyrann Mathieu to form a great safety tandem.
Statorama
Footballguy
Not a ton to draw from the game, mostly things we already knew (OL play and Run Defense are going to be nightmares all season).
AT Perry looks motivated. His luster as a prospect had dimmed a little with me in the offseason, but he looks like a new guy. Not sure what happened, but he's moving up my charts.
Rattler looked ok against a bunch of guys that will be selling insurance in a month, but overall I thought he looked like he'll be a decent backup. Haener looked ok as well.
AT Perry looks motivated. His luster as a prospect had dimmed a little with me in the offseason, but he looks like a new guy. Not sure what happened, but he's moving up my charts.
Rattler looked ok against a bunch of guys that will be selling insurance in a month, but overall I thought he looked like he'll be a decent backup. Haener looked ok as well.
rockaction
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Dennis Allen is 24-46 for a winning percentage of .343 in his career. He is 16-18 with NO. In that weak division.
Carry on.
This guy should have been fired yesterday.
Now you guys will win a championship or something.
Carry on.
This guy should have been fired yesterday.
Now you guys will win a championship or something.
He’s on borrowed time. They should rip the bandaid on the salary cap mess and just rebuild with Rattler etc next year
psychobillies
Footballguy
The whole Dennis Allen/Carr reunion was great. I'm not sure why they wanted to recreate it, but it worked.
rockaction
Footballguy
I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not. I’m guessing it’s not. I thought Carr had an okay year last year. He was 16th in QBR. He was good at the end, but I’m not sure the reunion was that good. Maybe I’m wrong here and overstepping my boundaries of knowledge. I watched a lot of NO last year, and he seemed out of sync with Olave and there was nobody else to pick up that slack.
psychobillies
Footballguy
It was sarcasm. Carr and Allen are not going anywhere ever. It was a failed experiment in Oakland that got everyone fired, and they decided to try it here. The results will be the same, so when I say "it worked", I mean that it worked recreating a bad situation.
Doug B
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FWIW, for those casually following the Saints from afar:
The company line now is that former OC Pete Carmichael and former OL coach Doug Marrone were the beginning and end of all the Saints' problems last year. Couldn't be Dennis Allen, because the defense was still solid (psst -- not a coordinator anymore).
Guess we'll see. Dennis Allen doesn't appear to be on a real hot seat. An 8-9 season where the Saints look mostly competitive most weeks will maintain his job. Maybe even 7-10, especially if "injuries!" can be used as the scapegoat (again).
The company line now is that former OC Pete Carmichael and former OL coach Doug Marrone were the beginning and end of all the Saints' problems last year. Couldn't be Dennis Allen, because the defense was still solid (psst -- not a coordinator anymore).
Guess we'll see. Dennis Allen doesn't appear to be on a real hot seat. An 8-9 season where the Saints look mostly competitive most weeks will maintain his job. Maybe even 7-10, especially if "injuries!" can be used as the scapegoat (again).
Their line is 7.5, which seems pretty generous. Guess I should be fading that.
Statorama
Footballguy
Starting against the Panthers cures a lot of ills I guess
Deamon
Footballguy
And now on the road against a great Dallas Defense.Starting against the Panthers cures a lot of ills I guess
What is happening here? Is this suddenly a top 5 offense in the NFL?????
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