What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

***Official NFC Championship Thread: Seahawks v 49ers*** (3 Viewers)

Who wins?


  • Total voters
    176
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.

Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.

Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
For guy who already has a rep for breaking the rules at USC, the Adderall busts can't possibly be helping his image as a seahawk. Unless the fans too are in a Carrollesque state of denial.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.

Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
For guy who already has a rep for breaking the rules at USC, the Adderall busts can't possibly be helping his image as a seahawk. Unless the fans too are in a Carrollesque state of denial.
I don't follow college football super closely so am not super up on what happended there.

People are going to hold Carroll responsible for players gettng popped for Adderal or whatever they have done? That seems like that should be more on the players than him.

 
Sherman I get not liking.

Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
For guy who already has a rep for breaking the rules at USC, the Adderall busts can't possibly be helping his image as a seahawk. Unless the fans too are in a Carrollesque state of denial.
I don't follow college football super closely so am not super up on what happended there.

People are going to hold Carroll responsible for players gettng popped for Adderal or whatever they have done? That seems like that should be more on the players than him.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/What-was-Pete-Carroll-s-part-in-the-USC-scandal-?urn=nfl,247361

I can accept Carroll disavowing any knowledge of PED use if some guys all got busted at the same time. But with a league high 6 PED suspensions since Carroll took over (not counting Sherman's successful appeal) over the span of 3+ years and with his history at USC, you'd have to wonder if Pete's gotten a little too used to turning a blind eye.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.

Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
Me, personally, I have no criticism of Carroll. And from what I've read about Sherman, he's actually a pretty smart, well spoken person, and his on-field demeanor is mostly gamesmanship. I still don't like it, but I can differentiate the two.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
Me, personally, I have no criticism of Carroll. And from what I've read about Sherman, he's actually a pretty smart, well spoken person, and his on-field demeanor is mostly gamesmanship. I still don't like it, but I can differentiate the two.
Sherman graduated with a 4.2 gpa from STANFORD. That's no joke. Dude just loves to talk s*** and tell how much better he is than everybody, both from a football and life perspective.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
Me, personally, I have no criticism of Carroll. And from what I've read about Sherman, he's actually a pretty smart, well spoken person, and his on-field demeanor is mostly gamesmanship. I still don't like it, but I can differentiate the two.
Sherman is very smart and interesting. He's got a good point of view and is a good writer. His on field stuff I can totally get people hating him for. But you are absolutely right, that stuff is all calculated. He has toned it down just a bit recently and I'd like to think he realized it was becoming a distraction.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
Me, personally, I have no criticism of Carroll. And from what I've read about Sherman, he's actually a pretty smart, well spoken person, and his on-field demeanor is mostly gamesmanship. I still don't like it, but I can differentiate the two.
Sherman graduated with a 4.2 gpa from STANFORD. That's no joke. Dude just loves to talk s*** and tell how much better he is than everybody, both from a football and life perspective.
Pretty sure most colleges don't all you to get a GPA over 4.0...4.2 was his high school GPA (obviously still very impressive), but he scored a 1060 on his retake of the SAT. 900s the first time. Not a great score...

 
Scoresman said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
TenTimes said:
I know he's young, but Kaep sure comes across like a teen like fad fashion obsessed dooshnozzle. The imitating Cam last week and Superman shoe thing doesn't help his perception either.
This is why the perception of Kaepernick gets skewed. I mean look at this guy, he reads the first linked article (written by a seahawk fan) and posts this without even looking at the other article debunking it.
Yeah, I mean you have to admit that there is a difference between how Kap carries himself and how Russell Wilson does, right? I consider myself a pretty big Kap fan, but I could really do without all of the antics. As far as how he relates to the press, that's probably Harbaugh's fault and it's really a shame. Barry Bonds would be in the Hall of Fame right now, steroids be damned, if he had cultivated a friendly relationship with the press. Kap is only hurting himself in that regard.

It would be easy to chalk it all up to me being old and not understanding "kids today", except that you have Wilson right there providing the counter-example. And don't get me wrong...I'm not saying he's a bad person. I fully understand that he gives back to the community more than I ever did. But it doesn't mean that I can't wish that our QB would act with a little more class and maturity.

With all that said, I wouldn't trade him for anybody right now. The future is bright for 49ers fans.

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
Me, personally, I have no criticism of Carroll. And from what I've read about Sherman, he's actually a pretty smart, well spoken person, and his on-field demeanor is mostly gamesmanship. I still don't like it, but I can differentiate the two.
Sherman graduated with a 4.2 gpa from STANFORD. That's no joke. Dude just loves to talk s*** and tell how much better he is than everybody, both from a football and life perspective.
Pretty sure most colleges don't all you to get a GPA over 4.0...4.2 was his high school GPA (obviously still very impressive), but he scored a 1060 on his retake of the SAT. 900s the first time. Not a great score...
I got a 1080 on my SATs and I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everyone says... like dumb!

 
Dinkle Heimer said:
BaBastage said:
Dinkle Heimer said:
I read your article and I've heard that Kaep is a good guy. It still doesn't change the fact that he comes across as a doosh canoe at times.
Thanks for clearing things up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Meh...I'm a Hawk fan, but I certainly see why people have negative impressions with guys like Sherman or Carroll also. It is what it is.
Sherman I get not liking.Any hate for Carroll though would have to be from the USC days or you just don't like the Seahawks. He has been great since being hired up in Seattle. Answers questions, doesn't say crazy things or overly complain about things. He basically chews his gum and claps a lot on the sidelines not too much to get worked up about.
Me, personally, I have no criticism of Carroll. And from what I've read about Sherman, he's actually a pretty smart, well spoken person, and his on-field demeanor is mostly gamesmanship. I still don't like it, but I can differentiate the two.
Sherman graduated with a 4.2 gpa from STANFORD. That's no joke. Dude just loves to talk s*** and tell how much better he is than everybody, both from a football and life perspective.
Pretty sure most colleges don't all you to get a GPA over 4.0...4.2 was his high school GPA (obviously still very impressive), but he scored a 1060 on his retake of the SAT. 900s the first time. Not a great score...
Many west coast schools have a +/- system, so you can get an A+ and it's a 4.3 out of 4.0, in case someone didn't know. I think the mystique of Stanford allows us to assume that any football player from there is a genius. They aren't. Stanford allows great athletes to attend, they just can't be stupid like other state schools allow.

 
Pretty sure most colleges don't all you to get a GPA over 4.0...4.2 was his high school GPA (obviously still very impressive), but he scored a 1060 on his retake of the SAT. 900s the first time. Not a great score...
Gotta love em football scholarships… Sherm can at least thank Harbaugh for that hook up.

 
Pretty sure most colleges don't all you to get a GPA over 4.0...4.2 was his high school GPA (obviously still very impressive), but he scored a 1060 on his retake of the SAT. 900s the first time. Not a great score...
Gotta love em football scholarships… Sherm can at least thank Harbaugh for that hook up.
X

Sherman was at Stanford two years before Harbaugh. He can thank Harbaugh for switching him from wide receiver to corner.

 
Pretty sure most colleges don't all you to get a GPA over 4.0...4.2 was his high school GPA (obviously still very impressive), but he scored a 1060 on his retake of the SAT. 900s the first time. Not a great score...
Gotta love em football scholarships… Sherm can at least thank Harbaugh for that hook up.
X

Sherman was at Stanford two years before Harbaugh. He can thank Harbaugh for switching him from wide receiver to corner.
I stand corrected. :gives pat on the butt and quickly runs away :scared:

 
Article on Jim Harbaugh's signature look: kmart sucks

The game needs to get here! Should find out a little about Harvin today, although I'm guessing they will keep his status a bit of a mystery until at least Friday.

 
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.

 
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.

 
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I feel the same pretty much. Although I do see the Broncos capable of pulling a SB win out. I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points. Denver I think would come down to a one possession game which could go either way.

 
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.

 
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.
Yea it's a shame that Denver did not play any of the NFC powers, but I suppose it adds to the hype of "unstoppable force" vs immovable object" for the Superbowl

 
chinawildman said:
BassNBrew said:
thecatch said:
Insein said:
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.
Yea it's a shame that Denver did not play any of the NFC powers, but I suppose it adds to the hype of "unstoppable force" vs immovable object" for the Superbowl
:goodposting:

I think that the NFC team is more likely to win the Super Bowl, but we just don't know what the Broncos can do against a defense like either of the NFC teams. It'll be a great SB regardless of who is in it at this point.

 
ShamrockPride said:
thecatch said:
Insein said:
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I feel the same pretty much. Although I do see the Broncos capable of pulling a SB win out. I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points. Denver I think would come down to a one possession game which could go either way.
I would absolutely never bet on a Belichick/Brady team losing by more than 7 points against anyone in a Superbowl regardless how overmatched the rest go the team is.

 
ShamrockPride said:
thecatch said:
Insein said:
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I feel the same pretty much. Although I do see the Broncos capable of pulling a SB win out. I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points. Denver I think would come down to a one possession game which could go either way.
I would absolutely never bet on a Belichick/Brady team losing by more than 7 points against anyone in a Superbowl regardless how overmatched the rest go the team is.
This. Though I would be very interested to see the line on NE vs. either SB. I could see the line in double digits, which would kinda blow my mind.

 
Can You Hear Me Now?

There isn’t a more uninviting place for a visiting NFL quarterback than CenturyLink Field, where Seattle’s 12th Man might as well be in the huddle screaming into a megaphone. Lean in close and listen to Bucs QB Mike Glennon explain how bad Colin Kaepernick and the 49ers will get it on Sunday.

Interesting take on what it's like for the QB / offense to play in Seattle with the crowd noise. I think the 49ers did a much better job getting the calls off more efficiently against Carolina. They are going to need to be near perfect in this area on Sunday if they have any hope of pulling off the upset.

 
ShamrockPride said:
thecatch said:
Insein said:
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I feel the same pretty much. Although I do see the Broncos capable of pulling a SB win out. I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points. Denver I think would come down to a one possession game which could go either way.
I would absolutely never bet on a Belichick/Brady team losing by more than 7 points against anyone in a Superbowl regardless how overmatched the rest go the team is.
This. Though I would be very interested to see the line on NE vs. either SB. I could see the line in double digits, which would kinda blow my mind.
A SF v. NE line would be close to a pick I think. Maybe SF +1 or +2. Seattle might give up to 7 but no way it would be more than that. I'd guess somewhere between a FG and two FGs.

A double digit line is enormous. The last one I remember in a Super Bowl was the Giants +10.5 vs. the 16-0 Patriots. The Giants were 10-6 that year and ranked only 14th in DVOA at +1.9%, with the Pats obviously a clear #1 by a mile at +53%. By comparison, this year Seattle is #1 at 40%, Denver is #2, New England is #5 and San Francisco is #6. Obviously that's not a hard and fast guide because of the significant injuries for both AFC teams, but it's a decent starting point.

 
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
HYPOTHETICAL SUPERBOWL LINES (Bovada)

Hypothetical Super Bowl Lines
Seattle Seahawks ——– -2.5
Denver Broncos ———- +2.5

Seattle Seahawks ——– -6
New England Patriots —- +6

San Francisco 49ers—— -3
New England Patriots —- +3

Denver Broncos ———- -2.5
San Francisco 49ers —– +2.5

 
Last edited by a moderator:
HYPOTHETICAL SUPERBOWL LINES (Bovada)



Hypothetical Super Bowl Lines

Seattle Seahawks -2.5

Denver Broncos - +2.5



Seattle Seahawks -6

New England Patriots - +6



San Francisco 49ers -3

New England Patriots - +3



Denver Broncos - -2.5

San Francisco 49ers +2.5
NE deserves more respect relative to Denver. NE's running game would make them more of a threat to do damage against either of the NFC teams.

 
HYPOTHETICAL SUPERBOWL LINES (Bovada)

Hypothetical Super Bowl Lines

Seattle Seahawks -2.5

Denver Broncos - +2.5



Seattle Seahawks -6

New England Patriots - +6



San Francisco 49ers -3

New England Patriots - +3



Denver Broncos - -2.5

San Francisco 49ers +2.5
NE deserves more respect relative to Denver. NE's running game would make them more of a threat to do damage against either of the NFC teams.
I disagree. I think New England is far more likely to beat Denver than they are either NFC team. Sure, NE played Seattle tough last year, but that is when they had Gronk, Welker, and Hernandez, and even Lloyd was pretty good. How is anyone in that current NE WR corps ever gonna get open against Seattle's secondary? If Jimmy Graham can't even produce against the Seattle defense, how is Danny Amendola gonna do so?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.

 
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.
How so? Seattle and SF are both teams that play great defense and run the ball well, which are two things you need to play well in cold NY/NJ February weather. The Broncos are easily the team least-equipped to handle that environment (because they are more of a passing team).

 
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.
How so? Seattle and SF are both teams that play great defense and run the ball well, which are two things you need to play well in cold NY/NJ February weather. The Broncos are easily the team least-equipped to handle that environment (because they are more of a passing team).
I'm just talking in terms of familiarity. Pats have been doing it in the postseason at home in such conditions BOTH ways, passing and rushing, for most of the past decade.

I still have doubts however about how legitimate that running attack in NE is. And I knew this would happen after last week's game where all of a sudden "OMG, the Pats are a force, they ran all over 30th ranked rush D Indy OMG."

I don't get why Pats are getting so much credit myself, no to say they aren't a good team, but to me they should be by a mile the last team left I'd pick to win it all. NE ranked 28th in rush yards per game this season, and both west coast teams rush better than NE while both those teams are top 7 I believe rush D's. I can't see that much of an advantage to overcome that JUST from having Belichick...

 
Last edited by a moderator:
HYPOTHETICAL SUPERBOWL LINES (Bovada)

Hypothetical Super Bowl Lines

Seattle Seahawks -2.5

Denver Broncos - +2.5



Seattle Seahawks -6

New England Patriots - +6



San Francisco 49ers -3

New England Patriots - +3



Denver Broncos - -2.5

San Francisco 49ers +2.5
NE deserves more respect relative to Denver. NE's running game would make them more of a threat to do damage against either of the NFC teams.
It would also be pretty close to a home game for them. Not far for those fans to travel.

 
BassNBrew said:
thecatch said:
Insein said:
Its only Wednesday. I feel for Niner and Seahawks fans. The wait would be excruciating if it was my team.
Would be tougher if I had a reasonable expectation of SF winning up there. I do think the winner of this game does a number on whatever AFC team advances, though.
I realize the quality of the defenses is different, but here are the points Denver put up in their losses...20, 31, and 33. In 17 games Seattle has hit the 30 point mark 5 times. Denver averaged 38 points a game. A SB against Denver won't be a walk in the park for either Seattle or Denver.
I know it was pre-season, but you should have seen how inept Peyton, Welker, and Thomas looked against the Seattle defense. Game ended 41-10 if I remember right.

 
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.
How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?

Edit...nevermind, I see you already explained it in your last post. I believe Seattle or San Francisco is going to kill whomever the AFC team is as both NFC teams are built to play in all conditions, but especially the conditions that are to be expected in NY.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.
How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJu_EnNJjwLthLFIqeM2YHiNf_26d7KAaMDc_GO6onJ_KUAKdhqQ

 
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.
How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?
Weather familiarity? You don't believe in such things? Northeast winters are far far different than a (obviously) SF winter. Or Seattle winter. And even a Denver winter (though this is closest).

 
HYPOTHETICAL SUPERBOWL LINES (Bovada)

Hypothetical Super Bowl Lines

Seattle Seahawks -2.5

Denver Broncos - +2.5



Seattle Seahawks -6

New England Patriots - +6



San Francisco 49ers -3

New England Patriots - +3



Denver Broncos - -2.5

San Francisco 49ers +2.5
NE deserves more respect relative to Denver. NE's running game would make them more of a threat to do damage against either of the NFC teams.
It would also be pretty close to a home game for them. Not far for those fans to travel.
I think that might have a slight impact, though I think the Superbowl is more of a "destination" game with distance being less of a factor. Each team only gets 17.5% of the tickets (many of which go to the organization, followed by season ticket holders. There are, technically, no tickets that are put for public sale on the primary market. So while I agree that distance might be somewhat of a factor, IMO it's much less of a factor than an actual home game, or something like a bowl game.

 
ShamrockPride said:
I can't help but think Pats would get crushed regardless...A 2 TD game at least...or more likely less than 21 points.
:lol:

The Patriots haven't lost on the road by 21 points in a long time. Last time NE faced SEA (in SEA no less), the Patriots were up by 10 going into the 4th quarter and the Seahawks required a substantial 4th quarter comeback to win by a whopping 1 point.
I meant Seattle or SF will hold them to under 21. But I do take that back now. I keep forgetting SB is in NJ this year, which would obviously play into NE's favor.
How exactly do you figure the Super Bowl being played in NY gives NE the advantage?
Weather familiarity? You don't believe in such things? Northeast winters are far far different than a (obviously) SF winter. Or Seattle winter. And even a Denver winter (though this is closest).
Green Bay vs. San Francisco?

 
This game hinges on how well Kaep handles the pressure imho...Seattle is so tough to play in. If the 49ers can weather the storm at the start and the wheels don't come off this game is anyone's to win or lose.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top