***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (13 Viewers)

[Tom Servo]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

 

[Brady Marino]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".

Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

 

[Tom Servo]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

I would agree with this. If you're holding the IWGP strap - considering how rarely it's defended compared to here - you're probably one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world.

 

[Brady Marino]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

I would agree with this. If you're holding the IWGP strap - considering how rarely it's defended compared to here - you're probably one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world.

It goes beyond the title, though. Styles is big time now in everything he does.

 

[facook]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

I would agree with this. If you're holding the IWGP strap - considering how rarely it's defended compared to here - you're probably one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world.

It goes beyond the title, though. Styles is big time now in everything he does.

Where you guys watch this?

 

[Brady Marino]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

I would agree with this. If you're holding the IWGP strap - considering how rarely it's defended compared to here - you're probably one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world.

It goes beyond the title, though. Styles is big time now in everything he does.

Where you guys watch this?

There's NJPWWorld (their answer to WWE Network) and, um, not as legal ways to watch wrestling at a .ch website.

 

[facook]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

I would agree with this. If you're holding the IWGP strap - considering how rarely it's defended compared to here - you're probably one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world.

It goes beyond the title, though. Styles is big time now in everything he does.

Where you guys watch this?

There's NJPWWorld (their answer to WWE Network) and, um, not as legal ways to watch wrestling at a .ch website.

Beauty. Thanks

 

[Smack Tripper]

I have no Interest in women's wrestling beyond sporadic eye candy.

But if they have all these workers, they shouid do an hour show featuring just that each week. maybe in their own vaccum I wills appreciate them more.

 

[travdogg]

Trouble is, Vince is never going to give them the time to develop a quality program. After all, he's gotta give Cena his 30 minutes, all the commercials for the latest movie tie in, blowing the WWE Universe, etc.

Plus, with casual (non-network viewers - most fans) fans, nobody knows who these chicks are. Oh, the smarts do, but not the ordinary fans. To get those casual fans to know and care about these gals will take more work than Vince wants to put into it.

FWIW, I fast forward through every DIVA match

Do you watch the NXT women's matches?

Nope, but I don't watch NXT either. Just don't have the time.

I guess I'm a tad bit different in that I'm probably more interested in the storylines, strategy, entertainment and booking behind it all more than the actual wrestling matches themselves. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good match here and there, but I can't watch match after match with nothing else.

NXT has all those things, and does them better than Raw has for over a year.

 

[OC Zed]

Trouble is, Vince is never going to give them the time to develop a quality program. After all, he's gotta give Cena his 30 minutes, all the commercials for the latest movie tie in, blowing the WWE Universe, etc.

Plus, with casual (non-network viewers - most fans) fans, nobody knows who these chicks are. Oh, the smarts do, but not the ordinary fans. To get those casual fans to know and care about these gals will take more work than Vince wants to put into it.

FWIW, I fast forward through every DIVA match

Do you watch the NXT women's matches?

Nope, but I don't watch NXT either. Just don't have the time.

I guess I'm a tad bit different in that I'm probably more interested in the storylines, strategy, entertainment and booking behind it all more than the actual wrestling matches themselves. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good match here and there, but I can't watch match after match with nothing else.

I get this... but at the end of the day, I want a great storyline AND a great match. And with the WWE monopolizing all of the top talent (or at least having the ability to), there is no reason why we shouldn't have both. Instead, we are still forced to watch lumbering giants get pushed year in and year out.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Man, if that ain't the truth. Hell, in the mid to late 90s, both WCW and WWF both had so many major stars that could main event, and you look at now, the WWE has a monopoly, yet old has-beens like Kane and Big Show are still given prime spots on RAW nearly every week. It's pathetic.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Trouble is, Vince is never going to give them the time to develop a quality program. After all, he's gotta give Cena his 30 minutes, all the commercials for the latest movie tie in, blowing the WWE Universe, etc.

Plus, with casual (non-network viewers - most fans) fans, nobody knows who these chicks are. Oh, the smarts do, but not the ordinary fans. To get those casual fans to know and care about these gals will take more work than Vince wants to put into it.

FWIW, I fast forward through every DIVA match

Do you watch the NXT women's matches?

Nope, but I don't watch NXT either. Just don't have the time.

I guess I'm a tad bit different in that I'm probably more interested in the storylines, strategy, entertainment and booking behind it all more than the actual wrestling matches themselves. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good match here and there, but I can't watch match after match with nothing else.

I get this... but at the end of the day, I want a great storyline AND a great match. And with the WWE monopolizing all of the top talent (or at least having the ability to), there is no reason why we shouldn't have both. Instead, we are still forced to watch lumbering giants get pushed year in and year out.

Oh I agree.

It's pretty ironic that the network put together all of the Monday night wars shows and wwe employees go on about the industry during that time.

The answer is right in front of their faces.

 

[Tom Servo]

AXS TV showed AJ Styles' IWGP title defense against Kazuchika Okada. Other than flashing NWO signs, I like his character right now. He's yards ahead of that crappy, brooding emo gimmick Dixie Carter had him using. He really does well leading the Bullet Club.

I watched NJPW Invasion Attack a couple days ago and couldn't help but notice that AJ just has a different air about him now. He was a hard working and solid worker in TNA, but the long knock on him was that he was never a "superstar".Ever since arriving in NJPW, AJ has become a superstar. He is on a different level now than he ever was and he deserves consideration for Best in the World (though I still think Nakamura is better).

I would agree with this. If you're holding the IWGP strap - considering how rarely it's defended compared to here - you're probably one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world.

It goes beyond the title, though. Styles is big time now in everything he does.

Where you guys watch this?

There's NJPWWorld (their answer to WWE Network) and, um, not as legal ways to watch wrestling at a .ch website.

Beauty. Thanks

AXS TV has an NPJW show Fridays at 9 PM, as well.

 

[Tom Servo]

Man, if that ain't the truth. Hell, in the mid to late 90s, both WCW and WWF both had so many major stars that could main event, and you look at now, the WWE has a monopoly, yet old has-beens like Kane and Big Show are still given prime spots on RAW nearly every week. It's pathetic.

That's your answer. Vince doesn't have to care when he's got 85% of the market locked up.

 

[RBM]

Trouble is, Vince is never going to give them the time to develop a quality program. After all, he's gotta give Cena his 30 minutes, all the commercials for the latest movie tie in, blowing the WWE Universe, etc.

Plus, with casual (non-network viewers - most fans) fans, nobody knows who these chicks are. Oh, the smarts do, but not the ordinary fans. To get those casual fans to know and care about these gals will take more work than Vince wants to put into it.

FWIW, I fast forward through every DIVA match

Do you watch the NXT women's matches?

Nope, but I don't watch NXT either. Just don't have the time.

I guess I'm a tad bit different in that I'm probably more interested in the storylines, strategy, entertainment and booking behind it all more than the actual wrestling matches themselves. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good match here and there, but I can't watch match after match with nothing else.

WWE has not had as powerful a storyline as NXT just recently did with Owens vs Zayn in a LONG LONG time. When you add that to the dynamic in ring work, there is just no comparison.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I only tuned in after Hour 2 (thinking I'd get the last 2 inductees).....wound up having to watch few more than that. I thought it was boring and exhausting just having to watch the last 2 hours. Four hours is just freaking ridiculous. Couldn't imagine to have to sit through that. No reason to induct as many guys as they do.

WWE was not pleased with this year's Hall Of Fame ceremony going long. Steps are already being taken to make sure next year's ceremony runs three hours or less, as was originally planned for this year.

 

[OC Zed]

I only tuned in after Hour 2 (thinking I'd get the last 2 inductees).....wound up having to watch few more than that. I thought it was boring and exhausting just having to watch the last 2 hours. Four hours is just freaking ridiculous. Couldn't imagine to have to sit through that. No reason to induct as many guys as they do.

WWE was not pleased with this year's Hall Of Fame ceremony going long. Steps are already being taken to make sure next year's ceremony runs three hours or less, as was originally planned for this year.

Three hours is still too long... it should be two hours maximum.

 

[OC Zed]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

 

[Tony Jabroni]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

It was pretty "meh". Ziggler/Neville put on a great match. Bray Wyatt had another awesome, cryptic promo. Seth Rollins is the best thing they got going now, he's just the perfect weasel, heel champ.

 

[OC Zed]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

It was pretty "meh". Ziggler/Neville put on a great match. Bray Wyatt had another awesome, cryptic promo. Seth Rollins is the best thing they got going now, he's just the perfect weasel, heel champ.

I didn't see it - I've only read the reports. I'm completely miffed that they wasted a Miz/Mizdow match on Raw. It's been a great, naturally building storyline for months now that the fans really love... and the payoff can't even be showcased on a second tier PPV (i.e., Extreme Rules)?

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

It was pretty "meh". Ziggler/Neville put on a great match. Bray Wyatt had another awesome, cryptic promo. Seth Rollins is the best thing they got going now, he's just the perfect weasel, heel champ.

I didn't see it - I've only read the reports. I'm completely miffed that they wasted a Miz/Mizdow match on Raw. It's been a great, naturally building storyline for months now that the fans really love... and the payoff can't even be showcased on a second tier PPV (i.e., Extreme Rules)?

I didn't see RAW last night. It was pre-taped, so that always takes some of the zing off the show.

Re: Miz/Dow - Seems like they're trading wins in a way that will set up the Extreme Rules match...probably something that decides who gets to keep the Miz gimmick since Mizdow is basically running a "better version of the Miz" thing right now.

John Cena's open challenge is the best thing on the weekly show followed closely by all things Rollins. I really like that Neville is sharing the ring with huge stars immediately after his call up.

Reigns has been demoted to another Big Show feud. I'd like it a lot more if he were matched up with Luke Harper instead.

 

[RBM]

Dolph-Neville and Cena-Barrett were both great matches. Good move allowing the local boys to shine in the long matches.

Orton-Seth should put on a good cage match. Can't even remember the last good one.

Looks like Wyatt is in limbo again. I think I'd like to see him in an anti-authority feud here soon. Sure he will play the babface role but that's fine. Maybe slowly build to him vs Triple H at SS. I just don't want to see him wasted in another one of his typical feuds.

 

[OC Zed]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

It was pretty "meh". Ziggler/Neville put on a great match. Bray Wyatt had another awesome, cryptic promo. Seth Rollins is the best thing they got going now, he's just the perfect weasel, heel champ.

I didn't see it - I've only read the reports. I'm completely miffed that they wasted a Miz/Mizdow match on Raw. It's been a great, naturally building storyline for months now that the fans really love... and the payoff can't even be showcased on a second tier PPV (i.e., Extreme Rules)?

I didn't see RAW last night. It was pre-taped, so that always takes some of the zing off the show.

Re: Miz/Dow - Seems like they're trading wins in a way that will set up the Extreme Rules match...probably something that decides who gets to keep the Miz gimmick since Mizdow is basically running a "better version of the Miz" thing right now.

John Cena's open challenge is the best thing on the weekly show followed closely by all things Rollins. I really like that Neville is sharing the ring with huge stars immediately after his call up.

Reigns has been demoted to another Big Show feud. I'd like it a lot more if he were matched up with Luke Harper instead.

I agree in re a Harper/Reigns feud. That could have promoted both guys. Big Show doesn't do anything for Reigns at this point other than #### off the core fans who resent anything Big Show is involved in at this point.

I really hope Sandow doesn't keep the Mizdow name. I think the guy is a talented performer and would prefer not to see him pigeonholed here.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

It was pretty "meh". Ziggler/Neville put on a great match. Bray Wyatt had another awesome, cryptic promo. Seth Rollins is the best thing they got going now, he's just the perfect weasel, heel champ.

I didn't see it - I've only read the reports. I'm completely miffed that they wasted a Miz/Mizdow match on Raw. It's been a great, naturally building storyline for months now that the fans really love... and the payoff can't even be showcased on a second tier PPV (i.e., Extreme Rules)?

Reigns has been demoted to another Big Show feud.

How many ####### times are we going to see this match?

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

I saw it was taped and made no effort to watch at all. Typically just watch the 'top of hour' segments anyway.

Thought the post-Mania RAW (the one RAW/year I'll try to catch most of) was meh. Really sad to say that on a RAW with Ziggler/Bryan & Cena/Ambrose. Either of which would have been a better main event than ending with Big Show&Kane in any fashion. Crowd was white hot.

I was just watching some older WCW/WWF shows back in the late 90's (when Kane/Show were relevant). Cant believe almost 20 years later, they are of any revelance (or competing at all). Got me thinking, when was the last time either of these guys have been taken seriously? (2000? early 2000s?) If these 2 clowns are there to get guys over, name the guys they've gotten over solely because of them. I'd safely assume any guys named would have gotten over no matter their presence. Just so tired of seeing these guys in the company period at this point. But keep flopping them face/heel WWE, no one's given a #### in over a decade. You can't even make them part time 'special attractions' at this point because people simply no longer give 2 ####s about them.

 

[Brady Marino]

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

It was pretty "meh". Ziggler/Neville put on a great match. Bray Wyatt had another awesome, cryptic promo. Seth Rollins is the best thing they got going now, he's just the perfect weasel, heel champ.

I didn't see it - I've only read the reports. I'm completely miffed that they wasted a Miz/Mizdow match on Raw. It's been a great, naturally building storyline for months now that the fans really love... and the payoff can't even be showcased on a second tier PPV (i.e., Extreme Rules)?

Reigns has been demoted to another Big Show feud.

How many ####### times are we going to see this match?

This has to be the first Tuesday in months - maybe over a year - where there wasn't any discussion of Raw from the night before. The post-WM surge is already over?

I saw it was taped and made no effort to watch at all. Typically just watch the 'top of hour' segments anyway.

Didn't think the post-Mania RAW (the one RAW/year I'll try to catch most of) was meh. Really sad to say that on a RAW with Ziggler/Bryan & Cena/Ambrose. Either of which would have been a better main event than ending with Big Show&Kane in any fashion. Crowd was white hot.

I was just watching some older WCW/WWF shows back in the late 90's (when Kane/Show were relevant). Cant believe almost 20 years later, they are of any revelance (or competing at all). Got me thinking, when was the last time either of these guys have been taken seriously? (2000? early 2000s?) If these 2 clowns are there to get guys over, name the guys they've gotten over solely because of them. I'd safely assume any guys named would have gotten over no matter their presence.

Show was getting old around the time ECW came back, so about 10 years ago. Kane had appeal for a little while longer, but not much.

 

[RBM]

The only value I can see Kane still having is if he makes the save on DB getting beaten down for a Team Hell No reunion. A BRIEF reunion.

 

[Eminence]

I loved watching Big Show beat down Roman Reigns.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

For anyone that still watches TNA, Taz is no longer with the company

One of several reasons I quit watching TNA. (Him and Tenay were just unbearable after awhile)

 

[Tiger Fan]

They should've let BNB beat Cena in his home country. Would've been a great experience and let the fans know that the title can shift at any time. Cena could have won it back next week for all I care, but it would've been funny.

 

[Keith R]

They should've let BNB beat Cena in his home country. Would've been a great experience and let the fans know that the title can shift at any time. Cena could have won it back next week for all I care, but it would've been funny.

Or at the very least a double-countout or the like. I guess a time limit draw is out of the question in this day and age...

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

Daniel Bryan pulled from the rest of the European tour as a "precautionary measure." This isn't going to end well, is it?

 

[OC Zed]

Daniel Bryan pulled from the rest of the European tour as a "precautionary measure." This isn't going to end well, is it?

 

[OC Zed]

They should've let BNB beat Cena in his home country. Would've been a great experience and let the fans know that the title can shift at any time. Cena could have won it back next week for all I care, but it would've been funny.

I wish BNB never lost the IC title in the first place. They could have built a great angle between him and Ambrose, but instead they kept the hot potato game going.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

They should've let BNB beat Cena in his home country. Would've been a great experience and let the fans know that the title can shift at any time. Cena could have won it back next week for all I care, but it would've been funny.

I wish BNB never lost the IC title in the first place. They could have built a great angle between him and Ambrose, but instead they kept the hot potato game going.

I think Barrett with the belt is kinda stale. It doesn't feel like it elevates him or the belt. I wish they'd run the King (and Queen) of the Ring tournament...King Barrett would interest me.

 

[OC Zed]

It's been a little bit since we've had a broader discussion on wrestling podcasts. I'm curious if I'm missing any that are out there? Here's what I've been listening to regularly (for better or worse):

• Steve Austin (Adult and Family-Friendly versions): This show is top notch when he has booked guests. When it's just him with Ted Fowler or his wife, then it's generally a pass. I was very disappointed to hear the WWE decided to go with Jericho over Austin for their periodic interview shows on the Network.
• JR: I love JR's opening monologue on his weekly thoughts. He consistently delivers some gems of knowledge. His guests can be of the old-timey variety, but he still gets interesting content from everyone.
• Cheap Heat (Grantland): I like the weekly news analysis, but Peter Rosenberg is such a gigantic dousche. I'm really listening only for David Shoemaker at this point, but it's becoming tougher and tougher.
• Straight Shoot: The weekly Raw analysis shows are done much better than the classic show recaps (not a fan of the Vanilla Midget sidekick and the gratuitous swearing that doesn't show up as much in the Raw shows).
• Jericho: This one is really hit or miss depending on the guests. I almost always have to skip through the first 15 minutes of the show as it's filled with commercials and Jericho's cornball commentary on whatever. I hate to admit it, but Jericho is pretty cheezball now.

I tried getting into Wade Keller's show last year, but got turned off by the incessant pimping of the paid subscriber option. Should I give it another try? Are Piper's or Goldberg's podcasts any good? Anything else?

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

I'm very loyal to Straight Shoot...Aubrey is booking more wrestlers on his show (Ethan Page, Chris Hero, Roderick Strong, Adam Cole, etc) , and they really bring good insight into booking and psychology. Spoiler alert: the wrestlers all love Cena's work.

I base my Austin and Jericho listening on guests. I always skip Jericho's intro stuff, but I'll listen to Austin all of the way through when I do listen.

Cheap Heat is pretty much just the Rosenberg variety hour now. It's just background noise now.

I check out the Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast stuff when it hits YouTube.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

It's been a little bit since we've had a broader discussion on wrestling podcasts. I'm curious if I'm missing any that are out there? Here's what I've been listening to regularly (for better or worse):

• Steve Austin (Adult and Family-Friendly versions): This show is top notch when he has booked guests. When it's just him with Ted Fowler or his wife, then it's generally a pass. I was very disappointed to hear the WWE decided to go with Jericho over Austin for their periodic interview shows on the Network.
• JR: I love JR's opening monologue on his weekly thoughts. He consistently delivers some gems of knowledge. His guests can be of the old-timey variety, but he still gets interesting content from everyone.
• Cheap Heat (Grantland): I like the weekly news analysis, but Peter Rosenberg is such a gigantic dousche. I'm really listening only for David Shoemaker at this point, but it's becoming tougher and tougher.
• Straight Shoot: The weekly Raw analysis shows are done much better than the classic show recaps (not a fan of the Vanilla Midget sidekick and the gratuitous swearing that doesn't show up as much in the Raw shows).
• Jericho: This one is really hit or miss depending on the guests. I almost always have to skip through the first 15 minutes of the show as it's filled with commercials and Jericho's cornball commentary on whatever. I hate to admit it, but Jericho is pretty cheezball now.

I tried getting into Wade Keller's show last year, but got turned off by the incessant pimping of the paid subscriber option. Should I give it another try? Are Piper's or Goldberg's podcasts any good? Anything else?

I haven't listened to any podcasts for a month or two now, but Keller's isnt that bad. I'll listen to Jim Cornette (MLW radio) from time to time. Haven't listened to it yet but he just had a 2 part interview with Austin.

Piper's isnt too bad. Goldberg's I haven't even bothered with. Reviewed his guest list and mostly guys I don't care about.

Vince Russo's is another decent one (if you can tolerate him saying 'Bro' every 30 seconds)

Most of them just depend on the guest.

 

[OC Zed]

It's been a little bit since we've had a broader discussion on wrestling podcasts. I'm curious if I'm missing any that are out there? Here's what I've been listening to regularly (for better or worse):

• Steve Austin (Adult and Family-Friendly versions): This show is top notch when he has booked guests. When it's just him with Ted Fowler or his wife, then it's generally a pass. I was very disappointed to hear the WWE decided to go with Jericho over Austin for their periodic interview shows on the Network.
• JR: I love JR's opening monologue on his weekly thoughts. He consistently delivers some gems of knowledge. His guests can be of the old-timey variety, but he still gets interesting content from everyone.
• Cheap Heat (Grantland): I like the weekly news analysis, but Peter Rosenberg is such a gigantic dousche. I'm really listening only for David Shoemaker at this point, but it's becoming tougher and tougher.
• Straight Shoot: The weekly Raw analysis shows are done much better than the classic show recaps (not a fan of the Vanilla Midget sidekick and the gratuitous swearing that doesn't show up as much in the Raw shows).
• Jericho: This one is really hit or miss depending on the guests. I almost always have to skip through the first 15 minutes of the show as it's filled with commercials and Jericho's cornball commentary on whatever. I hate to admit it, but Jericho is pretty cheezball now.

I tried getting into Wade Keller's show last year, but got turned off by the incessant pimping of the paid subscriber option. Should I give it another try? Are Piper's or Goldberg's podcasts any good? Anything else?

I haven't listened to any podcasts for a month or two now, but Keller's isnt that bad. I'll listen to Jim Cornette (MLW radio) from time to time. Haven't listened to it yet but he just had a 2 part interview with Austin.

Piper's isnt too bad. Goldberg's I haven't even bothered with. Reviewed his guest list and mostly guys I don't care about.

Vince Russo's is another decent one (if you can tolerate him saying 'Bro' every 30 seconds)

Most of them just depend on the guest.

Is Russo's podcast back up now? The last I heard was that his business partner had locked him out of his own website.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Yeah apparently Russo didn't want to pay the guy running the site. But they agreed to nothing in writing when they started the venture Russo's got a new website starting this Monday. vincerussobrand.com

 

[Brady Marino]

PWTorch (Keller) has a $1.31 promo this month. Tried it, was meh.

I subscribe to the Wrestling Observer. Bryan Alvarez is a great host.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I was surprised how much both PWTorch and Wrestling Observer were a month for their paid stuff. In the few free podcasts I've listened to with them they're always advertising promos. I considered one month but then saw the after price & didn't want to have to bother with cancelling. I refuse to pay more for podcasts than I am for WWE Network. Just too many other podcasts (free and/or much cheaper) & websites.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I love Jericho, but his post WM diatribe on "I'm not a corporate schill or employed by WWE, but......" cracked me up when his second segment promoted the post Raw interview he was doing on the network with Cena.

OK Chris

 

[Bogart]

It's been a little bit since we've had a broader discussion on wrestling podcasts. I'm curious if I'm missing any that are out there? Here's what I've been listening to regularly (for better or worse):

• Steve Austin (Adult and Family-Friendly versions): This show is top notch when he has booked guests. When it's just him with Ted Fowler or his wife, then it's generally a pass. I was very disappointed to hear the WWE decided to go with Jericho over Austin for their periodic interview shows on the Network.
• JR: I love JR's opening monologue on his weekly thoughts. He consistently delivers some gems of knowledge. His guests can be of the old-timey variety, but he still gets interesting content from everyone.
• Cheap Heat (Grantland): I like the weekly news analysis, but Peter Rosenberg is such a gigantic dousche. I'm really listening only for David Shoemaker at this point, but it's becoming tougher and tougher.
• Straight Shoot: The weekly Raw analysis shows are done much better than the classic show recaps (not a fan of the Vanilla Midget sidekick and the gratuitous swearing that doesn't show up as much in the Raw shows).
• Jericho: This one is really hit or miss depending on the guests. I almost always have to skip through the first 15 minutes of the show as it's filled with commercials and Jericho's cornball commentary on whatever. I hate to admit it, but Jericho is pretty cheezball now.

I tried getting into Wade Keller's show last year, but got turned off by the incessant pimping of the paid subscriber option. Should I give it another try? Are Piper's or Goldberg's podcasts any good? Anything else?

I listen to Cheap Heat every week. Like that it's once a week, an hour in length and good production values. I get enough of Shoemaker to put up with Rosenberg.

Thanks to JB, I'm now also a loyal listener to Straight Shoot. Love the guys that Aubrey has on, and love that it's inside baseball without having to worry about corporate backlash (ala ESPN/Grantland). The live feed after RAW is fun to watch.

Austin and Jericho used to be must listens, but with twice a week for both, I just pick and choose based on guests. JR I listen to even less, but when he has someone really good on I listen.

Wade Keller probably has the best content, but the constant talk about the premium subscriptions, the fact that it's everyday and the horrible production values (sounds like they are talking on tin cans) keep me away.

 

[RBM]

Daniel Bryan pulled from the rest of the European tour as a "precautionary measure." This isn't going to end well, is it?

Shame. His body just can't hold up to his style.

 

[Jeremy]

I really like what they're doing with Sheamus. Him condescending to all the smaller wrestlers is going to bring a lot of easy heat from the internet fans who seem to think any wrestler over 220 lbs is worthless.

Daniel Bryan pulled from the rest of the European tour as a "precautionary measure." This isn't going to end well, is it?

Reminds me of David Wilson, the former RB of the Giants. Seemed to make it all the way back and then suffered a setback and that was it. I hope that's not Bryan's fate, but neck injuries...ugh. :(

 

[Eminence]

Agreed, heel Sheamus is the man. I could give two ####s about Daniel Bryan though.

 

[Thunderlips]

Like I said before...make the World champion a PPV only guy. If the name is big enough in that slot...it doesn't matter if the fans are only seeing him 6-9 times a year. That way, "wear down" and injury risk guys can still hold the strap. What...Lesnar wrestled 7 times last year? Bryan's got enough of a name that he could be the WWE Champion for a year and WWE still get their money's worth from him with only wrestling 9 times a year.

 

[GoFishTN]

People like Sheamus? Who knew?

 

[Brady Marino]

People like Sheamus? Who knew?

He's got potential as a heel. He's just a terrible face.

 

[Bogart]

Binge watched the first three episodes of the "Attitude Era" RAWs yesterday while working around the house.

Not everything was amazing. Austin has a Port-A-John lowered down from the rafters to put Golddust in it. Terry Funk spent hours in a wooden crate just so he could chainsaw out of it very awkwardly. The King still wrestling. Undertaker talking, just the worst of ideas.

But so much of it was good. Vince giving a speech about "The Cure for the Common Show" pretty much admitting that they were going for shock and soap opera along with athletic displays. Early DX skits. Mick Foley doing all kinds of Mick Foley things. Only two hours of programming, split to make each hour seem different and special. Loved the fact that there were a ton of factions. Felt like a huge gang war with your single heroes here and there. Today's product could improve itself greatly if it went back to having more groups of guys.

My favorite was HBK/HHH having their own "finger poke of doom", but pulling it off so much better than Hogan/Nash did later on.