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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (3 Viewers)

DJackson10 said:
He seems like a cheap knock off of Golddust but PG. Not to say the kid doesn't have talent I just don't again see his gimmick working on the main roster. It might be big for a few weeks at first like Adam Rose and then die down 
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Honestly, if Patrick Clark takes Velveteen Dream anywhere close to Goldust on the main roster, he'll be remembered for years and years and years to come. Goldust has a long legacy.

 
Didn't buy DoN, but all the feedback and that it seemingly lived up to its immense hype.....I think buying All Out's gonna have to be on my to do list.

 
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At my local promotion in Nashville today @sup_graps - I hope Allie Kat gets a chance to work for a big paycheck someday. She absolutely is the heart and soul of this place.

 
Best of Super Juniors wrapped last night. I'll put spoiler tags on it since DJax is behind.

Will Ospreay will now meet Shingo Takagi
 
hagmania said:
Honestly, if Patrick Clark takes Velveteen Dream anywhere close to Goldust on the main roster, he'll be remembered for years and years and years to come. Goldust has a long legacy.
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I'm a big Dream mark.  I think the guy just has "it."  I'm also convinced that VKM would ruin him on the main roster.  Hope he stays at NXT for awhile until they actually have a plan for him in WWE.

 
Tony Jabroni said:
Don't care if you like him, or not, LESNAR. Tonight.
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So he shows up last week to say "Wait...I didn't know I could cash in at any time.  Nevermind, I'm out!"  to having Heyman call out "Brock is cashing in on Monday!" over the weekend.  This entire storyline doesn't make sense.  I'm now waiting for Brock to be on the show tonight to say "Heyman misunderstood me.  I'm going to cash in on a Monday Night Raw - just not this one."

I really can't stand Brock.

 
coyote5 said:
I'm a big Dream mark.  I think the guy just has "it."  I'm also convinced that VKM would ruin him on the main roster.  Hope he stays at NXT for awhile until they actually have a plan for him in WWE.
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VKM: "Orlando, welcome back pal"

 
Tony Jabroni said:
Don't care if you like him, or not, LESNAR. Tonight.
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Let's ignore the complete no logic surrounding the briefcase/boombox/WWE sold Brock boombox/briefcase T-shirt nonsense, and hope Brock beats Seth and wins the 24/7 title tonight and goes back home for the next year with them. Further enraging all the marks that no Brock on Raw regularly is killing the company. Despite the fact, the title is never defended on Raw anyway.

 
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Interesting listen of Cheap Heat Podcast over the weekend. Thought for sure it was going to be their last one. Instead, Peter Rosenberg has come to grips that he isn't working with WWE anymore, and instead of taking his ball and going home, he is going to feel more comfortable being critical of the product. Nothing special there, but his less than glowing review of DoN was a bit more fresh. He talked highly of the areas that deserved it, but also talked pretty harsh about the issues the company is still having. As much as we want WWE to have competition and wish it was AEW, they still have some basic things to work out.

 
This story I'm not believing for one second or it's completely fabricated. Knowing Bully like I have over the years (Met him more then a few times) he's not gonna have a fan be escorted by security backstage to told to tone it down if the fan did what he did. If you check this guys profile he seems a bit light in the pants if you know what I'm saying. 

Fan claims Mandy Leone spit on him and Velvet dared him to go to ring, escorted to back by security to see Bully ray who sends him back out and Intimidates him

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Let's ignore the complete no logic surrounding the briefcase/boombox/WWE sold Brock boombox/briefcase T-shirt nonsense, and hope Brock beats Seth and wins the 24/7 title tonight and goes back home for the next year with them. Further enraging all the marks that no Brock on Raw regularly is killing the company. Despite the fact, the title is never defended on Raw anyway.
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While the story makes no sense, I am at least somewhat amused by the Brock Party BS for whatever reason. I'm thinking that it's me with my arm in crap up to my shoulder in the vain hope I'll pull out a diamond.  :shrug:

 
DJackson10 said:
This story I'm not believing for one second or it's completely fabricated. Knowing Bully like I have over the years (Met him more then a few times) he's not gonna have a fan be escorted by security backstage to told to tone it down if the fan did what he did. If you check this guys profile he seems a bit light in the pants if you know what I'm saying. 

Fan claims Mandy Leone spit on him and Velvet dared him to go to ring, escorted to back by security to see Bully ray who sends him back out and Intimidates him
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Yeah, I'm calling :bs: on this. I've met the Allure and they are NOTHING like that. Velvet Sky let me harass her about being a Yankees fan.  I've met Mandy Leon each time she's been in Pittsburgh she's been nothing if not sweet, kind, and considerate.

 
Tom Servo said:
Yeah, I'm calling :bs: on this. I've met the Allure and they are NOTHING like that. Velvet Sky let me harass her about being a Yankees fan.  I've met Mandy Leon each time she's been in Pittsburgh she's been nothing if not sweet, kind, and considerate.
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Mandy is from Boston or NY but has put roots in Philly after living in Lancaster PA which is where Adam Cole is from. Ive met her as well so I'm calling BS as well here. 

 
Tom Servo said:
While the story makes no sense, I am at least somewhat amused by the Brock Party BS for whatever reason. I'm thinking that it's me with my arm in crap up to my shoulder in the vain hope I'll pull out a diamond.  :shrug:
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I think we all should boycott Raw/SDL this week since its the Saudi episode. Then boycott the PPR on Fri. Show them we don't accept this. 

 
Peak said:
So he shows up last week to say "Wait...I didn't know I could cash in at any time.  Nevermind, I'm out!"  to having Heyman call out "Brock is cashing in on Monday!" over the weekend.  This entire storyline doesn't make sense.  I'm now waiting for Brock to be on the show tonight to say "Heyman misunderstood me.  I'm going to cash in on a Monday Night Raw - just not this one."

I really can't stand Brock.
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My sources are telling me Stephanie is punishing him for his actions.

 
Mr.Pack said:
just proving me right again.  :coffee:
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Not sure you can say your right if it was already announced before you even put it on here. I think the rule is have it on here first before it's announced. They announced he was being punished like 4 or so days ago so unless you posted something before that don't see how you can be right. 

 
I fell asleep half hour in. RAW these days is a better sleep aid than a wrestling show.

Checking out. Gonna come back in an hour to watch the end of this crap and maybe something will happen with Brock.

 
Jesus #### you can't make this #### up. Seth gets beaten down by Corbin and then Brock comes out and does his #### beating up Rollins. Paul says do it Brock yells Friday. Walks away goes back Beats Seth more walks away 

 
:lmao:  There's WWE in a nutshell right now.

3 hour show full of so much inconsequential trash......and Taker returns and gets promo cut off due to time restraints.

Michael Cole with the line of the night after Cesaro's loss to Ricochet. "Cesaro knew how much this match meant" :lmao:  

 
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I illegally streamed SDL and RAW last night. Not giving these clowns my ratings. Only reason I still have the Network is NXT/NXT UK and the library for $9.99. I had more fun watching Super J for NJPW 

 
Seth Rollins

A.J.Styles

Brock Lesnar

Roman Reigns

Randy Orton

Drew McIntyre

Samoa Joe

Kevin Owens

Finn Balor

Braun Strowman

Yet, they think they actually need old folks like The Undertaker/Goldberg and a once upon a time Triple H?

That deal (fast forward right past it) with Bray Wyatt is how ######? 

Just think all of us here could do a better job than what we are seeing in the WWE right now.  Really sucking more than usual.

One thing I have never understood is why would anyone want their TV rasslin' vs MNF?  That makes no sense at all.

 
ZenoRazon said:
Yet, they think they actually need old folks like The Undertaker/Goldberg and a once upon a time Triple H?

That deal (fast forward right past it) with Bray Wyatt is how ######? 

Just think all of us here could do a better job than what we are seeing in the WWE right now.  Really sucking more than usual.

One thing I have never understood is why would anyone want their TV rasslin' vs MNF?  That makes no sense at all.
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In the case of the upcoming Saudi show, they love the old guys and that's what the prince wants to see. So, VKM gives it to him.  :shrug:

 
Tom Servo said:
Sort of a little tweak to the E, you think?
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Definitely.  Between New Japan putting a strap on Moxley and loads of smaller organizations allowing their wrestlers to appear at “All In” events I feel like much of the wrestling world is collaborating  to tweak and potentially bring down the industry giant.

 
Gary Coal Man said:
Definitely.  Between New Japan putting a strap on Moxley and loads of smaller organizations allowing their wrestlers to appear at “All In” events I feel like much of the wrestling world is collaborating  to tweak and potentially bring down the industry giant.
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They're doing a good job on their own of driving away viewers in scads.

Too big to fail for many, many years tho.

 
hagmania said:
They're doing a good job on their own of driving away viewers in scads.

Too big to fail for many, many years tho.
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Oh, I'd agree. It seems like a trend that entertainment entities are hate programming for the sole purpose of angering their fans: Star Wars, Doctor Who, MCU.  It's just that VKM does it to show that we'll watch anything he pumps out. 

MEMO TO VINCE MCMAHON  - We're tired of your crap and we're not watching anymore.

 
Tom Servo said:
Oh, I'd agree. It seems like a trend that entertainment entities are hate programming for the sole purpose of angering their fans: Star Wars, Doctor Who, MCU.  It's just that VKM does it to show that we'll watch anything he pumps out. 

MEMO TO VINCE MCMAHON  - We're tired of your crap and we're not watching anymore.
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It’s interesting that Vince can’t see that his old formula feels outdated and is no longer working because when Vince bought the company from his father he set out to change his father’s old formula that felt outdated.  

Vincent Kennedy McMahon has become Vincent James McMahon circa the early 80s — an old man set in his ways as the wrestling fan is yearning for something different and more exciting.

 
Gary Coal Man said:
It’s interesting that Vince can’t see that his old formula feels outdated and is no longer working because when Vince bought the company from his father he set out to change his father’s old formula that felt outdated.  

Vincent Kennedy McMahon has become Vincent James McMahon circa the early 80s — an old man set in his ways as the wrestling fan is yearning for something different and more exciting.
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IMO, I think there's a certain arrogance that he knows better than we do what we want. I don't whether that's because he's been unchallenged all these years, has gotten coo-coo in his old age, or what. When you've got both Jon Moxley and Dustin Rhodes saying that leaving the E was like getting out of prison, that's really telling.

 
Am I the only one who thinks that Moxley, Ambrose, or any persona of Jonathan Good is overrated?  I just watched his New Japan match and I don’t get the hype.

 
Also some interesting info on twitter I saw retweeted by Brad Shepard the other day from Super J Cast Looks like Moxley isn't the only one getting one over WWE these days

Per our UK sources, WWE had a spy in one of the ticket agencies (mandated by Copper Box) NJPW were using for Royal Quest. Saw that NJ had only sold 2000 tickets but didn’t realise they had a 2nd ticket agency, and that total sales were 5000+. (1/3) 

WWE thought sales were bad, saw money on the table, didn’t do the research on competing events (e.g. the rugby match) and rushed in (circa March). (2/3)

Now WWE are facing a situation with twice as many wrestling fans as they thought already committed to going to Royal Quest, and hugely inflated Cardiff hotel costs due to the Wales v Ireland World Cup warm-up rugby game (at least £100 per night). (3/3)

 
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