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***OFFICIAL*** Punk/ Hardcore Music Thread (3 Viewers)

jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ

 
I read a funny article the other day about how Fat Mike has been into BDSM for 20 years, and has always had a dungeon wherever he's lived.

 
AcerFC said:
Im sitting at an r5 concert at the best buy theatre right now
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So I thought, "Huh, Herb, you've never heard of R5. If Acer is seeing them they must be pretty cool. Let's check into this."

A few Spotify clicks later...

And I discovered that Acer has a tween daughter. That he really really really loves a lot. God Bless the fathers and the thankless, humiliating #### they have to endure.

ETA: There's an excellent film called "The other F Word" about punk rock dads. Check it out if you haven't already.

 
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Herb said:
AcerFC said:
Im sitting at an r5 concert at the best buy theatre right now
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So I thought, "Huh, Herb, you've never heard of R5. If Acer is seeing them they must be pretty cool. Let's check into this."A few Spotify clicks later...

And I discovered that Acer has a tween daughter. That he really really really loves a lot. God Bless the fathers and the thankless, humiliating #### they have to endure.

ETA: There's an excellent film called "The other F Word" about punk rock dads. Check it out if you haven't already.
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lol. Actually a 7 year old daughter and 4.5 year old son who were super psyched last nightJim from pennywise actually had a book before that movie came out. A buddy of mine bought it for me when I had my first kid.

 
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html

 
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Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?
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It's been about 10 years since we went and I'm not sure if it was a regular exhibit or not but they did a good job of laying out the story of punk chronologically with some great memorabilia. I love museums that bring you through a timeline and I found most of the RnR museum to be too scattered and unorganized. The punk exhibit might be too basic for a real fan but I found it to be really interesting and informative.

 
Any other fans of John Reis/Rick Froberg stuff like Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Rocket from the Crypt? I'm more partial to Froberg myself, he's a better singer plus RFTC's best stuff sounds a little stale with the horns and what not. Love Drive Like Jehu. Even Froberg's latest band Obits is pretty outstanding.. guy's been making good tunes since the 80's. Great visual artist too. I guess what I'm saying is, I would blow Rick Froberg.

speedo fork

 
JZilla said:
Any other fans of John Reis/Rick Froberg stuff like Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Rocket from the Crypt? I'm more partial to Froberg myself, he's a better singer plus RFTC's best stuff sounds a little stale with the horns and what not. Love Drive Like Jehu. Even Froberg's latest band Obits is pretty outstanding.. guy's been making good tunes since the 80's. Great visual artist too. I guess what I'm saying is, I would blow Rick Froberg.

speedo fork
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ROME PLOWS!!!

 
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
Click to expand...
Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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I'm cool with all those bands being in. Personally, I never "got" the Clash, but their influence is undeniable. I also don't really consider them "punk", but that's not what this thread is about and I'm not the arbiter of what is or is not "punk."

Nominate as many as you want. This is punk- there are no rules. I like your noms and if you think they're worthy then they are. I especially like MC5, even if punk wasn't around when they were. I'm OK considering them the first or one of the first punk bands. "Kick Out the Jams" is a punk tune for sure.

 
Herb said:
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
Click to expand...
Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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I'm cool with all those bands being in. Personally, I never "got" the Clash, but their influence is undeniable. I also don't really consider them "punk", but that's not what this thread is about and I'm not the arbiter of what is or is not "punk."

Nominate as many as you want. This is punk- there are no rules. I like your noms and if you think they're worthy then they are. I especially like MC5, even if punk wasn't around when they were. I'm OK considering them the first or one of the first punk bands. "Kick Out the Jams" is a punk tune for sure.
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I didn't "get" The Clash -- with exceptions -- until much later in life. Then I began to absolutely love them. I consider them punk, still, but I've linked below to somebody who doesn't. You're right, it's tough to be an arbiter of what is "punk" and what isn't. I generally go with consensus when thinking about it, because I can't possibly craft a working definition. It's like that obscenity definition that you know it when you hear it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/music_box/2005/02/debunking_punk.html

 
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
Click to expand...
Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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From this article, I would agree that these acts deserve a spot in the hall:

The Cure--not a huge fan, but their body of work deserves the recognition, IMO

Journey--How is Journey not in??? I mean, fine, I'm the big ##### in a punk thread talking about Journey, but seriously. Journey isn't in the RnR HOF? They have more hits than La Cosa Nostra

Brian Eno-- Is not in the HOF. This guy is one of the greatest artists in rock history. WTFF?

The Smiths- Don't really like them actually, but they probably deserve to be in the HOF

Personally, I love Joy Division, PIL, and MC5, but not sure they deserve to be in

 
Herb said:
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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From this article, I would agree that these acts deserve a spot in the hall:

The Cure--not a huge fan, but their body of work deserves the recognition, IMO

Journey--How is Journey not in??? I mean, fine, I'm the big ##### in a punk thread talking about Journey, but seriously. Journey isn't in the RnR HOF? They have more hits than La Cosa Nostra

Brian Eno-- Is not in the HOF. This guy is one of the greatest artists in rock history. WTFF?

The Smiths- Don't really like them actually, but they probably deserve to be in the HOF

Personally, I love Joy Division, PIL, and MC5, but not sure they deserve to be in
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WOW, "meat is murder" is one of my all time fav albums :shrug:

 
Bonzai said:
JZilla said:
Any other fans of John Reis/Rick Froberg stuff like Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Rocket from the Crypt? I'm more partial to Froberg myself, he's a better singer plus RFTC's best stuff sounds a little stale with the horns and what not. Love Drive Like Jehu. Even Froberg's latest band Obits is pretty outstanding.. guy's been making good tunes since the 80's. Great visual artist too. I guess what I'm saying is, I would blow Rick Froberg.

speedo fork
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ROME PLOWS!!!
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Jehu is my favorite band of all time.

 
JZilla said:
Any other fans of John Reis/Rick Froberg stuff like Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Rocket from the Crypt? I'm more partial to Froberg myself, he's a better singer plus RFTC's best stuff sounds a little stale with the horns and what not. Love Drive Like Jehu. Even Froberg's latest band Obits is pretty outstanding.. guy's been making good tunes since the 80's. Great visual artist too. I guess what I'm saying is, I would blow Rick Froberg.

speedo fork
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Kind of neutral on RFTC and DLJ, but I really enjoy Hot Snakes, esp the first album.

 
Celph Titled said:
JZilla said:
Any other fans of John Reis/Rick Froberg stuff like Hot Snakes, Drive Like Jehu, Rocket from the Crypt? I'm more partial to Froberg myself, he's a better singer plus RFTC's best stuff sounds a little stale with the horns and what not. Love Drive Like Jehu. Even Froberg's latest band Obits is pretty outstanding.. guy's been making good tunes since the 80's. Great visual artist too. I guess what I'm saying is, I would blow Rick Froberg.

speedo fork
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Kind of neutral on RFTC and DLJ, but I really enjoy Hot Snakes, esp the first album.
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Check out Pitchfork, sneaky good early stuff by those guys

 
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
Click to expand...
Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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Glaring omission on that list is The Jam

 
More garage-punk 90's greatness. So glad somebody posted this on YouTube. "Hooked On Phonics" is such a classic, and maybe my favorite garage/punk song of all-time, aside from those pre-punk 60's bands that Rhino brought us with Nuggets. So is "Zodiac." A classic, that is.

The Rip Offs

eta* Might as well throw this one in there, too...Go Away

And for completists, their full-length, Got A Record

 
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Last one: Fabulous Andy Gortler and the Devil Dogs on Crypt. Can't recommend this enough.

Saturday Night Fever. This blew my mind when it came out, but faded softly against the backdrop that was the greatness of the New Bomb Turks. Nobody could touch !!Destroy-Oh-Boy!! or Information Highway Re-Revisited.

 
HellToupee said:
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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Glaring omission on that list is The Jam
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Never got The Jam as a youth, and by then, taste speeds by and you never quite can recapture the energy you once had, you know? I always loved "In The City," but when I bought their greatest hits, I wasn't into it.

No accounting for taste, no matter how crappy, I guess. They merit another listen, I'm sure. I'd still rather listen to them than almost 95% of the stuff out there.

 
Figured I'd post some stuff from the aughts and beyond that seem legendary. I wish I could do a better write-up, but if you like punk, trust me, these are pretty good songs. Peruse at your leisure. I hope somebody takes my word and listens to these songs. They're unreal. I've enjoyed them, at least. I'd also advise looking into these bands' whole catalogues.

Marked Men, Denton, TX. Great song Fortune

Underground Railroad to Candyland Yuppie Hip Hop Ad

Red Dons My Life In Exile

Neon Piss Look Homeward Angel

The Bananas Nautical Theme

eta* I have to add this. Marked Men Too Pretty To #### -- because this song made me think the aughts were worthwhile for punk.

eta2* Who could forget these guys? RIP. Exploding Hearts Modern Kicks

eta3* And this, because the Red Dons are probably my favorite punk band of the decade. Wipers-esque, brilliant, mid-tempo song here. I would strongly encourage anyone who likes melodic punk to check out Fake Meets Failure. It's free on Bandcamp. Anyway, this is from Notes on The Underground Cold Hearted

 
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AcerFC said:
Celph Titled said:
Big fan of Ignite as well.
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zoli is singing for pennywise nowI used to use an ignite sing in school for a socratic seminar
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scratch that. Just heard a new song off Pennywise's new album and Jim is back

Pennywise/Bad Religion/Offspring tour

Summer Nationals 2014 Tour Dates with Pennywise:7/29/14 Pittsburgh, PA - Stage AE* – on sale May 17 @ 10 AM

7/30/14 Baltimore, MD - Pier Six Pavilion* – on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/1/14 Asbury Park, NJ - The Stone Pony Summer Stage* – on sale May 16 @ 4 PM

8/2/14 Philadelphia, PA - Electric Factory* - on sale May 16 @ 4 PM

8/4/14 New York, NY - Terminal 5* - on sale May 16 @ 12 Noon

8/5/14 New York, NY - Terminal 5* - on sale May 16 @ 12 Noon

8/7/14 Toronto, ON - TD Echo Beach* - on sale May 23 @ 10 AM

8/8/14 Burlington, VT - Waterfront Park – Lake Champlain Maritime Fest* - on sale May 16 @ 11 AM

8/10/14 Montreal, QC – Heavy Montreal Festival w/ Bad Religion, Dropkick Murphys, Metallica, Slayer and more.

8/11/14 Boston, MA - House Of Blues* - on sale May 17 @10 AM

8/14/14 Tampa, FL - MidFlorida Credit Union Amphitheatre# - on sale June 6 @ 10 AM

8/15/14 West Palm Beach, FL - Cruzan Amphitheatre# - on sale June 6 @ 10 AM

8/16/14 Cape Canaveral, FL - Exploration Tower at Port Canaveral# - on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/19/14 St. Augustine, FL - Saint Augustine Amphitheatre# - on sale May 30 @ 10 AM

8/20/14 Atlanta, GA - The Masquerade Music Park# - on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/22/14 Oklahoma City, OK - Downtown Airpark# - on sale May 17 @ 10 AM

8/24/14 Englewood, CO - Fiddler’s Green Amphitheatre# - on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/26/14 Magna, UT - The Great Saltair** - on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/27/14 Las Vegas, NV - The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino# - on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/29/14 Mesa, AZ - Mesa Amphitheatre# - on sale May 17 @ 10 AM

8/30/14 Chula Vista, CA - Sleep Train Amphitheatre* - on sale May 16 @ 10 AM

8/31/14 Mountain View, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre Grounds* - on sale June 13 @ 10 AM

* w/ Bad Religion, Pennywise and The Vandals

# w/ Bad Religion, Pennywise and TBA

** w/ Pennywise and TBA

 
Nice job, Acer. Like having this stuff as part of this thread. Glad to hear Jim is back with Pennywise, even if they're not one of my favorite bands.

Also as part of the HOF discussion, Bad Religion would certainly deserve a nod.

 
BTW: Keith Morris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rollins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWviIl2NFNY

 
gkza said:
I have a 9 mos old daughter. I hope someday she asks me what punk rock is. I will play Rancid's Out Come the Wolves followed by Life Won't wait.

No one sings punk quite like Lars.

Other great NYCHC bands: Agnostic Front, Cro Mags, Merauder, Etown Concrete, Madball.
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I actually very much dislike Lars. I consider him the Yoko Ono of Rancid. Their first album and Let's Go were them at their best (yeah, Lars was on Let's Go, but no song writing and little singing). I just don't buy his screaming thing. Doesn't have an emotional connection with me. Reminds me of when Dave Grohl tries to scream. I skip most Lars heavy songs. And I miss Matt singing more.

 
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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All great songs but you need to link maybe the greatest song ever written.

The Decline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwGJ0EHdXDc

 
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
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The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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I ####### love the Dead Boys, but hard to call anyone HOF with only 2 albums. Stiv is the perfect punk front man. Speaking of perfect pieces of bands, this has a strong case:

Vocals: Stiv

Guitar: Johnny Thunders

Bass: Dee Dee Ramone :wub:

Turns out these guys did an album together. Stiv Batoirs: Last Race. I found out about it in HS and spent years trying to track it down. The internet finally started earning it's keep and I found a French record label that was selling it. I wrote them an email and they had me send them a money order for the CD. I was so freaking stoked. A couple months later it came it the mail. Nothing could have lived up to the build up I had for this album, and this was no exception. There's some good stuff on there including better recorded version of Dee Dee's Poison Heart, bt overall it is way less than the some of there parts.

 
timschochet said:
Anyone ever listen to Me First and the Gimme Gimmes?
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I love these guys. I lean heavily more towards the poppy side of punk. These guys are fun and I can put them on with lot's of people around not not have people ask me what the hell I'm listening to.

One thing I've always wanted to do is catalog all their intros. Every sing they've recorded starts with a punk rock classic riff/drum beat intro before it goes into the cover. Some are easy like Sloop John B is Teenage Lobotomy. Black Flag 6 pack was my favorite one I've caught.

 
Sebowski said:
rockaction said:
Herb said:
jamny said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.

I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
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Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?

Also, as an aside, I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.

I nominate NOFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
Click to expand...
The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.

How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.

I'll let others nominate after those.

Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
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I ####### love the Dead Boys, but hard to call anyone HOF with only 2 albums. Stiv is the perfect punk front man. Speaking of perfect pieces of bands, this has a strong case:

Vocals: Stiv

Guitar: Johnny Thunders

Bass: Dee Dee Ramone :wub:

Turns out these guys did an album together. Stiv Batoirs: Last Race. I found out about it in HS and spent years trying to track it down. The internet finally started earning it's keep and I found a French record label that was selling it. I wrote them an email and they had me send them a money order for the CD. I was so freaking stoked. A couple months later it came it the mail. Nothing could have lived up to the build up I had for this album, and this was no exception. There's some good stuff on there including better recorded version of Dee Dee's Poison Heart, bt overall it is way less than the some of there parts.
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:goodposting:

Yeah, I more go for impact than longevity, but that's for everyone else to decide. I found Young, Loud, and Snotty back in '93, back when I was staying at my brother's in San Diego -- they had this Taang! record store on Mission Beach (?) I think. Anyway, I was way into punk, and it has stuck with me ever since. Catch me on a weird night, and I'll nominate a weirdly personal and non-consensus band fetish of mine. I still think the New Bomb Turks's first album was one of the greatest in punk history, which never sits right with most proper punks. Same with the Crumbs's s/t on Lookout! in '97, which is all but dead and completely out of print. I don't think anybody loves that album more than I do. But then again, they wear their influences on their sleeve with songs like "Dead Boys Too," so there's that.

As for the Batoirs, that is a great, great band line-up. Sadly, I'm not surprised that there was no way it could have ever lived up to what you'd expect from those three guys. I remember buying Thunders's Diary Of a Lover and just hating it. I loved the Dolls and the Stooges in high school as a glam aficionado, which is kind of a weird way to get to those bands. I got there through trash and glam and Hit Parader reviews moreso than proto-punk leanings. I loved punk in high school, too, but the punkers back in the late 80's and early 90's weren't the people listening to Johnny Thunders. My area was largely NYHC or CTHC at the time, and punk was kind of something you had to traverse yourself. My point, I guess, is: Those trash junkies will kind of always let you down with their side projects. Actually, my prejudice about that has kept me from ever even owning L.A.M.F., which seems to be a horrible mistake as I sit here listening to it because of your post.

As for Me First and the Gimme Gimmes intros, that's probably the coolest little bit of trivia I've heard in a long time. I had their first album, and never, ever caught that. Awesome.

eta* Actually, anybody into the Dolls/Stooges/MC5 will love this, so I'll post the L.A.M.F. link I'm listening to, which is just unreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNM6_O3MjU

 
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