interested to hear about this receiverLooking to upgrade my 5.1 surround to a 5.1.4.
Samsung 4K 55" TV - https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/4k-suhd-tvs/55-class-ks8000-8-series-4k-suhd-tv-2016-model-un55ks8000fxza/
Receiver (to be purchased...replacing Denon AVR-591) - Marantz 6011 - https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marsr6011/marantz-sr6011-9.2-ch-x-110-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
Speakers are an old JAMO set that still sound good to me - http://www.jamo.com/products/s406 and BIC F12 sub - https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
My upfiring ATMOS speakers will be 2 of the Andrew Jones (https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-T22A-LR-Speaker-designed-Andrew/dp/B0148NPHO8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1515528410&sr=1-3&keywords=andrew+jones+atmos) and these from Onkyo (https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-SKH-410-Atmos-Enabled-Speaker-System/dp/B00O8LANJA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1515528435&sr=1-2&keywords=onkyo+atmos) (Got all 4 speakers for $175 used!)
I'm looking forward to getting the receiver, running the wires and experiencing ATMOS in the very near future!
If you like the Denon sound you'll love Marantz, it's the Denon step-up brand. I toyed with going with the Marantz pre/pro when I bought my Denon but couldn't justify double the price even though the Marantz was a screaming deal.interested to hear about this receiver
Cool - Yeah my Denon was 400-500 at the time I think. Got on sale for 350ish during the holidays.If you like the Denon sound you'll love Marantz, it's the Denon step-up brand. I toyed with going with the Marantz pre/pro when I bought my Denon but couldn't justify double the price even though the Marantz was a screaming deal.
Yeah I got mine for around 800 I think? And the Marantz was 1500 which was a crazy deal since list was 2200. Looking at that Accessories 4 less site I can get a Marantz for 1200 now.....tempting. Wife may kill me but it's very tempting.Cool - Yeah my Denon was 400-500 at the time I think. Got on sale for 350ish during the holidays.
Not sure I'm ready to plunk down 1k though
Looks like a lot of Japanese mfg there Denon and Marantz merged in 07 or 08 IIRC.Marantz, huh? Loves me some Marantz (Denon too)
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Why would you be nervous? What's your equipment list again?Will today be the day I finally get the sack to attach the old school NAD amp I mentioned to my setup. Why am I so nervous about this? I never set up an amp before is probably why.
I have a basic setup. Yamaha RX-V675 and an old Bose Acoustmass surround system for speakers. I also have a new 2016 Polk sub. I have a bunch of extra crap in my basement I don't use anymore. I have a big Boston Acoustics bookshelfish center speaker that I was thinking of adding on along with the NAD amp.Why would you be nervous? What's your equipment list again?
Well after reading your Nav thread I understand your trepidation now! j/kI have a basic setup. Yamaha RX-V675 and an old Bose Acoustmass surround system for speakers. I also have a new 2016 Polk sub. I have a bunch of extra crap in my basement I don't use anymore. I have a big Boston Acoustics bookshelfish center speaker that I was thinking of adding on along with the NAD amp.
I didn't really think it through. I four other older recievers in my basement. Maybe one of those will. I have a Denon, Harmon, and another Yamaha. I bought the current one mostly for all the HDMI outputs.Well after reading your Nav thread I understand your trepidation now! j/k
So after looking at that receiver it doesn't have pre-outs for anything other than a sub so you'd not be able to use the NAD. Not sure how you were planning on hooking it up?
It might be easier to work from what's your goal first lol.I didn't really think it through. I four other recievers in my basement. Maybe one of those will.
I have no goal, just stuff.It might be easier to work from what's your goal first lol.
I'll have to check. It's been a while since I have thought about this stuff.what other stuff do you have?
TBH if you are happy with how things sound I'd probably not go through the trouble of trying to figure out how to use old stuff, especially old receivers.I'll have to check. It's been a while since I have thought about this stuff.
The one thing I want is a little more power. I want to be able to make my house shake but not lose sound quality. I'm not really sure if that is possible at this point. The good news is my setup SOUNDS really good as is.TBH if you are happy with how things sound I'd probably not go through the trouble of trying to figure out how to use old stuff, especially old receivers.
New speakers would be the best option to accomplish that. More power doesn't always equal more boom.The one thing I want is a little more power. I want to be able to make my house shake but not lose sound quality. I'm not really sure if that is possible at this point. The good news is my setup SOUNDS really good as is.
Is this Acoustmass setup complete trash compared to new stuff available?New speakers would be the best option to accomplish that. More power doesn't always equal more boom.
Personally, I prefer full size speakers and a good sub.. find speakers that have a sensitivity of 89db or more, and your reciever should probably be able to drive them (especially if you have a sub to help out with the lowest frequencies)...Is this Acoustmass setup complete trash compared to new stuff available?
I have full size speakers in the garage unplugged unfortunately. I got sick of hearing the wife complain about the space they take up so I went with cubes. Luckily, I was able to hide the sub behind a chair.Personally, I prefer full size speakers and a good sub.. find speakers that have a sensitivity of 89db or more, and your reciever should probably be able to drive them (especially if you have a sub to help out with the lowest frequencies)...
even decent bookshelf speakers on stands would be a big improvement IMOI have full size speakers in the garage unplugged unfortunately. I got sick of hearing the wife complain about the space they take up so I went with cubes. Luckily, I was able to hide the sub behind a chair.
Yea, that's the thing - your speaker size is going to matter when you want that level. Technology has done wonders with making little speakers sound bigger, but in the end, they are still little speakers. With the right speakers, you can rock your house with a 35w amp.PIK95 said:I have full size speakers in the garage unplugged unfortunately. I got sick of hearing the wife complain about the space they take up so I went with cubes. Luckily, I was able to hide the sub behind a chair.
Yes. Bose is generally thought of as all marketing no performance, especially at the price point. There are some nice satellite sub combos out there that are really good and look good as well, Anthony Gallo is one of them.PIK95 said:Is this Acoustmass setup complete trash compared to new stuff available?
I have the Bose stands in the basement lol.Parrothead said:even decent bookshelf speakers on stands would be a big improvement IMO
Heh, they were a client of mine - I have the nucleus 5.1 system I got on trade for some work (I don't use it much, as my vintage stuff is superior for 2-channel, which is 99% of my listening these days). But for 5.1, they are fantastic. Anthony knows speakers, too.Yes. Bose is generally thought of as all marketing no performance, especially at the price point. There are some nice satellite sub combos out there that are really good and look good as well, Anthony Gallo is one of them.
And 80 watts was 80 watts, now there is no regulation per se and there are all sorts of insane claims. It's also possible it was 80 watts @4 Ohms instead of 8.My dad had one of these, not working, in his garage https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.iWftx5RR0oVxyUZOoA4kegHaFj&w=166&h=124&c=7&o=5&dpr=4&pid=1.7
About twenty years ago. I took it, paid a hifi shop $200 to clean it up and fix it and then hooked it up. If I recall it was 80w power, but it just thumped raw power through speakers.
I could see how you'd blow speakers in the old days before digital signal processing. Without limiters on highs and lows you're really putting speakers through the test.
Let my brother borrow it and never saw it again. Think he traded it for a bag of weed
He had them hooked up to 1973 Bose 901's. I still have those. You can't over power them, but they aren't much for low end. They're great if you want to make your back yard sounds like a live concert though.Those old Marantz receivers - especially that 22xx series - are really nice (that one you posted was 75 watts @ 8ohms - that's the 75 after the 22 for that series). I got into audio awhile back, and vintage (70's / 80's) stuff a few years ago, and that silver Marantz solid state gear was always my favorite. It took me awhile to get the two pieces I have now. That 70's Marantz sound is really sweet for music.
Denon AVR 2312 CIWhat model Denon do you have? And yes that Monolith is 200w per channel driving 5 channels.
So you're not able to add an amp to that receiver, there are no pre-outs.tommyboy said:Denon AVR 2312 CI
I used the receiver and its microphone. The app is probably a convenience thing. An app would be easier for them to keep updated vs. firmware updates for avr's.So the Denons now have a $20 app to cehck Audyssey settings?
Is that mandatory? Can I not check them in the menu anymore?
Anyone know?
So looking at Denon's site it appears to be mixed.So the Denons now have a $20 app to cehck Audyssey settings?
Is that mandatory? Can I not check them in the menu anymore?
Anyone know?
Through these technologies, and with the supplied microphone, it exactly analyzes each speaker's output to optimize the overall listening experience. With the additional Audyssey MultEQ Editor App (available for purchase), very advanced users can even go further "under the hood" if desired.
So you can do the basics but more advanced settings require the app. I would be interested to see what you can change in the menu vs the app.
there's 3 different montior out connections (line out) http://hometheatergears.com/wp-content/uploads/denon-avr2312ci-back.jpgSo you're not able to add an amp to that receiver, there are no pre-outs.
Monitor out is usually just single mono channel or it can be stereo. If you're doing pre-out for surround there should be a pre-out for each channel. Look at this pic of the 3400, it has pre-outs for all channels. That's what you need for surround use.there's 3 different montior out connections (line out) http://hometheatergears.com/wp-content/uploads/denon-avr2312ci-back.jpg
if those aren't valid, what should i be looking for in terms of "pre-out" i though you just need a line out connection
Yeah - iread that and it wasnt clear. For example it said in the ampp you can see the speaker distances etc. I was like I do that in the menus nowSo looking at Denon's site it appears to be mixed.
Not sure what your budget is or where you're looking but accessories 4 less has the 3300 and 3400 for pretty crazy prices.Yeah - iread that and it wasnt clear. For example it said in the ampp you can see the speaker distances etc. I was like I do that in the menus now
ETA: I only ask because i'm looking at the 1400 or 2400 receiver
thanks. looks like i need to upgrade, any suggestions?Monitor out is usually just single mono channel or it can be stereo. If you're doing pre-out for surround there should be a pre-out for each channel. Look at this pic of the 3400, it has pre-outs for all channels. That's what you need for surround use.
See the post above with the links to accessories 4 less, the 3300 or 3400.thanks. looks like i need to upgrade, any suggestions?
just bought it.See the post above with the links to accessories 4 less, the 3300 or 3400.
out of stock on both.
For the value it'll be hard to pass up. Do you know what brands they carry?out of stock on both.
i'll head down to my local hifi dealer and talk to them this afternoon. i'll let you guys know what they recommend
http://fredsoundofmusic.com/For the value it'll be hard to pass up. Do you know what brands they carry?