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*** Official SF 49ers 2015 thread *** Chip Kelly new HC (1 Viewer)

Borland's story for retiring seems perfectly reasonable, but one has to wonder if San Fran's impending implosion didn't play at least a small role.

 
Probably should of made that decision before entering the draft last year. Oh well, glad they tendered Wilhoite. First round gets much more interesting now. It's Bowman or bust!

 
Autumn Wind said:
Borland's story for retiring seems perfectly reasonable, but one has to wonder if San Fran's impending implosion didn't play at least a small role.
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After reading a longer article about it, I don't think so. He was thinking about this in training camp. He even wrote his parents a letter saying his career would be brief at that time.

I know I'm gonna catch heat on a football board for saying this, especially since it's only a few guys who have retired, but is this going to start happening more and more? We aren't at a tipping point or anything, but is at least on the way to becoming one?

 
SF409ers said:
Probably should of made that decision before entering the draft last year. Oh well, glad they tendered Wilhoite. First round gets much more interesting now. It's Bowman or bust!
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Good thing you guys didn't trade Wilhoite for a late rounder as was rumored.

Borland made over a million dollars, he wouldn't have been able to get that head start on the rest of his life without at least playing a year.

 
RenegadeGM said:
Autumn Wind said:
Borland's story for retiring seems perfectly reasonable, but one has to wonder if San Fran's impending implosion didn't play at least a small role.
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After reading a longer article about it, I don't think so. He was thinking about this in training camp. He even wrote his parents a letter saying his career would be brief at that time.

I know I'm gonna catch heat on a football board for saying this, especially since it's only a few guys who have retired, but is this going to start happening more and more? We aren't at a tipping point or anything, but is at least on the way to becoming one?
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I don't know if enough guys feel like Borland for it to be a tipping point, but I might have made the same decision in his shoes. I doubt my kids will play football. It's going to become more of an issue.

 
RenegadeGM said:
Autumn Wind said:
Borland's story for retiring seems perfectly reasonable, but one has to wonder if San Fran's impending implosion didn't play at least a small role.
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After reading a longer article about it, I don't think so. He was thinking about this in training camp. He even wrote his parents a letter saying his career would be brief at that time.

I know I'm gonna catch heat on a football board for saying this, especially since it's only a few guys who have retired, but is this going to start happening more and more? We aren't at a tipping point or anything, but is at least on the way to becoming one?
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The biggest risk long-term to the game is that kids are going to stop playing. Less people playing --> less talent in numbers --> decline in quality.

Another issue I'm surprised doesn't get brought up more often is that it's going to become very hard at some point for High Schools to insure their football team. If insurers aren't willing to take the risk or the price becomes too prohibitive to the school, I can see many areas dropping programs.

 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
SF409ers said:
Probably should of made that decision before entering the draft last year. Oh well, glad they tendered Wilhoite. First round gets much more interesting now. It's Bowman or bust!
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Good thing you guys didn't trade Wilhoite for a late rounder as was rumored.

Borland made over a million dollars, he wouldn't have been able to get that head start on the rest of his life without at least playing a year.
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Which makes this all the more interesting for the future of the NFL. Teams might start having to factor into their draft plans guys playing only a few years and then calling it quits.

 
They're just in a tailspin. There is a cloud over the 49ers right now...

I respect Borland for his decision to walk away from the game. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a lucrative career coaching in the future and wish him the best.

From a pure 49er fan perspective:

:hot: :doh: :angry: :hot: :tfp:

 
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RenegadeGM said:
Autumn Wind said:
Borland's story for retiring seems perfectly reasonable, but one has to wonder if San Fran's impending implosion didn't play at least a small role.
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After reading a longer article about it, I don't think so. He was thinking about this in training camp. He even wrote his parents a letter saying his career would be brief at that time.

I know I'm gonna catch heat on a football board for saying this, especially since it's only a few guys who have retired, but is this going to start happening more and more? We aren't at a tipping point or anything, but is at least on the way to becoming one?
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No. There might be some good but not great players like Borland that retire early but the money and the game are too good. 95% of people would keep playing just for the money. Lots of guys keep playing just because they love the game too much to quit.

I think Borland had made up his mind during training camp. A couple of other guesses by me would be that his parents are in the middle class or better for income and that he played football because he was good at it.

Something that struck me as odd was that he wanted to get into sports management. I would have to guess that his sport of choice would be football. It seems like a strange thing to pursue since it would be directly involving himself in the game he thought was so potentially dangerous that he is going to retire before his second year.

 
My Niners are taking body shots left and right. Horribly inept owner and GM have mismanaged the team into the ground. Players are losing the will to fight and jumping ship. Would Gore, Willis, Smith and Borland bail if the 49ers were still a strong playoff contender?

 
ninerfan said:
My Niners are taking body shots left and right. Horribly inept owner and GM have mismanaged the team into the ground. Players are losing the will to fight and jumping ship. Would Gore, Willis, Smith and Borland bail if the 49ers were still a strong playoff contender?
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I think Smith would stick around another year if they could win the big one. Willis and Borland have reasons larger than the game so imagine it wouldn't matter for them. Gore is a tough one because I think he received a lack of love from management. Gore will always be my favorite RB.
 
Wingnut said:
:rant:
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:goodposting:

I respect Borland's decision.. but man... what an off-season.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Borland to say he's going to keep coaching/stay around the game if he feels it's so dangerous? How can he coach kids playing a game he feels is dangerous to their health?

 
Spin said:
Wingnut said:
:rant:
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:goodposting:

I respect Borland's decision.. but man... what an off-season.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Borland to say he's going to keep coaching/stay around the game if he feels it's so dangerous? How can he coach kids playing a game he feels is dangerous to their health?
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Not at all. He said he didn't want to risk his health...which good for him. He didn't say he thinks nobody should be play football. As in the other thread I lean towards you are going to see a new generation of players play a couple of seasons and then get out.

As for the 49ers, what a mess. The front office scares me the most because we could be heading into jacksonville jaguars territory here..

 
killface said:
Spin said:
Wingnut said:
:rant:
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:goodposting:

I respect Borland's decision.. but man... what an off-season.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Borland to say he's going to keep coaching/stay around the game if he feels it's so dangerous? How can he coach kids playing a game he feels is dangerous to their health?
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Not at all. He said he didn't want to risk his health...which good for him. He didn't say he thinks nobody should be play football. As in the other thread I lean towards you are going to see a new generation of players play a couple of seasons and then get out.

As for the 49ers, what a mess. The front office scares me the most because we could be heading into jacksonville jaguars territory here..
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Agree. I'm happy for Willis retiring when he did, nice to see players go out on their own. Borland surprised me, so quick, but I get it. If I knew there was a 1% (completely made up number) of getting CTE for each year I played in the NFL (again, 100% made up, as I'm about as ignorant as it comes with respect to CTE/head injuries), I'd like to think I'd hang em up. I also would bet that he comes from upper middle / upper class family, and realizes he has another route to make money. If he was coming from a poor household/generations of poor I wonder if he makes the same decision.

I read somewhere that 30% of all retired NFL players show signs of Alzhemiers or Dementia. That's a pretty scary number.

 
killface said:
Spin said:
Wingnut said:
:rant:
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:goodposting: I respect Borland's decision.. but man... what an off-season.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Borland to say he's going to keep coaching/stay around the game if he feels it's so dangerous? How can he coach kids playing a game he feels is dangerous to their health?
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Not at all. He said he didn't want to risk his health...which good for him. He didn't say he thinks nobody should be play football. As in the other thread I lean towards you are going to see a new generation of players play a couple of seasons and then get out.

As for the 49ers, what a mess. The front office scares me the most because we could be heading into jacksonville jaguars territory here..
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Let's not get crazy. I get the skepticism but thats a little much...There's still a lot of talent on this team.Man...I was really looking forward to watching Borland play this season, the kid is a machine.

 
Seems fraudulent to sign a 4-year contract and take a signing bonus when you're already considering retirement after one season back in training camp. He should have to repay 3/4 of the signing bonus.

 
Spin said:
Wingnut said:
:rant:
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:goodposting: I respect Borland's decision.. but man... what an off-season.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Borland to say he's going to keep coaching/stay around the game if he feels it's so dangerous? How can he coach kids playing a game he feels is dangerous to their health?
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That does seem quite odd.

 
Autumn Wind said:
Borland's story for retiring seems perfectly reasonable, but one has to wonder if San Fran's impending implosion didn't play at least a small role.
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If this was a fast track to the Super Bowl team I would bet he'd be give it one more year. If he had any doubts I am sure the dumpster fire that York left them in, ended that.

 
Glad to see this one off the first page before I get my football fix for the day. Nobody retired, tore an achillies, or was traded today - Let the rebuilding begin, one day at a time.

 
Spin said:
BaBastage said:
Pro, at this point I don't think 49er fans trust our ownership to even tank correctly.
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Woooot! 7- 9 for the next 5 years! Looking forward to THAT!
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Yup. This team isn't bad enough to get a high draft pick, and not good enough to sniff the playoffs. Yay.
 
york knows what he's doing. he studied jerry jones well. just be patient the next 20 years. better times are on the way!

 
Shrugs said:
Seems fraudulent to sign a 4-year contract and take a signing bonus when you're already considering retirement after one season back in training camp. He should have to repay 3/4 of the signing bonus.
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Former #49ers LB Chris Borland, now retired, told CBS Face The Nation that hes returning 3/4 of his $617,436 signing bonus to the team.Good enough to convince you?

 
Spin said:
Wingnut said:
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:goodposting:

I respect Borland's decision.. but man... what an off-season.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Borland to say he's going to keep coaching/stay around the game if he feels it's so dangerous? How can he coach kids playing a game he feels is dangerous to their health?
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Borland had a short shelf life anyway, and would have been on IR by mid-season if he didn't resign. Liability in coverage as well. A bit overrated and a waste of a pick. Pure Baalke right there.

 
Lon Simmons passes away at age 91.

Such a great voice and so many classic calls for the Niners and Giants. Always a class act too.

His call on the Montana to Taylor TD to win the 89 Super Bowl was my particular favorite.............................

 
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