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*** Official SF 49ers 2015 thread *** Chip Kelly new HC (1 Viewer)

There's still a lot of talent on the field, but with such piss poor management, I wouldn't be surprised to see the downward spiral continue. I'm still recovering from the early 2000's. Remember when Mike Rumph busted as expected and Merton Hanks won our hearts with that awesome head bobbing? We're heading into another era like that.

 
Let's be more precise here. It's terrible because of what happened with the coaching staff and the fact that they appear to have a young, idiot owner who is in way over his head.The roster moves have not been terrible to date. I can quibble but I think they have largely done the right thing. Losing what looked like a future HoFer to retirement unexpectedly would be a tough pill to swallow for any franchise in the league but you can't really hammer the team about that.
HELLO EXACTLY!!!

Bad transactions, unexpected injuries or retirements, etc. can be handled properly...

An owner like Jed is poison... Recovering from someone like this takes a long time. Either until he figures it out (which feels like a long time away) or he leaves.
Jed's still very young :thumbup: . Will be a LONG time until he even becomes a Daniel Snyder (who at least made his own fortune).

 
There's still a lot of talent on the field, but with such piss poor management, I wouldn't be surprised to see the downward spiral continue. I'm still recovering from the early 2000's. Remember when Mike Rumph busted as expected and Merton Hanks won our hearts with that awesome head bobbing? We're heading into another era like that.
Rough couple of years there, not sure how you 49ers fans survived. God bless your current recovery.

 
There's still a lot of talent on the field, but with such piss poor management, I wouldn't be surprised to see the downward spiral continue. I'm still recovering from the early 2000's. Remember when Mike Rumph busted as expected and Merton Hanks won our hearts with that awesome head bobbing? We're heading into another era like that.
Rough couple of years there, not sure how you 49ers fans survived. God bless your current recovery.
:lol: :goodposting:
 
There's still a lot of talent on the field, but with such piss poor management, I wouldn't be surprised to see the downward spiral continue. I'm still recovering from the early 2000's. Remember when Mike Rumph busted as expected and Merton Hanks won our hearts with that awesome head bobbing? We're heading into another era like that.
Merton Hanks won a super bowl...

 
Just saw Tomsula's spiel at the Willis press conference.... :lmao: . :loco: . :lmao:

There isn't a more LOL-worthy coach in the league. Hope he sticks around for at least two seasons. :thumbup:

 
Just saw Tomsula's spiel at the Willis press conference.... :lmao: . :loco: . :lmao:

There isn't a more LOL-worthy coach in the league. Hope he sticks around for at least two seasons. :thumbup:
Just watched it...thought you were probably exaggeratiing... :lmao:

"That's what a man looks like - in every sense of the word." :oldunsure:

 
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A leader of men. Makes one reminisce on the merits of the last leader of men in this position. Legendary 9rs HC Mike Singletary who ascribed to the view that yelling obscenities at grown men was both coaching AND leadership. It figures to be a very long season.

 
A leader of men. Makes one reminisce on the merits of the last leader of men in this position. Legendary 9rs HC Mike Singletary who ascribed to the view that yelling obscenities at grown men was both coaching AND leadership. It figures to be a very long season.
Say what you want about Singletary's coaching, but his 2010 draft (Bowman, Iupati, Anthony Davis) set the team up for the winning that followed.

 
Reggie Bush to visit 49ers.

Interesting fact: last season, SF attempted 5 (FIVE) screen passes to RBs.

Its comical.

 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.

 
Signing Harvin would go along way to improving the offseason. Fills long time holes at returner and playmaker. Plus he's a great fit for Kap IMO. A Boldin / Smith/ Harvin receiving corps is an upgrade over last years group of plodding possession receivers.

Color me slightly optimistic if we sign Harvin.

 
I've never understood the love for Harvin. He's never had a 1000 yard season or caught more than 6 TD's in a year. And he appears to leave a wake with every team he's been part of.

No thanks.

 
I've never understood the love for Harvin. He's never had a 1000 yard season or caught more than 6 TD's in a year. And he appears to leave a wake with every team he's been part of.

No thanks.
This

Harvin is a guy that is running on some unearned reputation for some reason

He would fit the 49ers narrative right now though...bring him in, have him complain that he's not used enough, call out Kaep in the media, everyone turns on eachother etc...

 
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From Rotoworld

Reggie Bush - RB - 49ers
49ers signed RB Reggie Bush, formerly of the Lions.
The terms of the agreement are still unknown. After leaving the Patriots without even receiving an offer on Friday, the 49ers were Bush's most logical landing spot. Bush appeared on the decline last season, but he will still be a nice upgrade over Kendall Hunter as the passing down complement to featured back Carlos Hyde. Bush's signing leaves Pierre Thomas as the best third-down back left on the market.



Mar 14 - 2:21 PM

 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.
What exactly did the team lose that you are concerned about?

They will be better on offense than they were last year. Defense is a concern - especially the secondary, but Baalke doesn't seem concerned about Culliver and Cox's replacements.

 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.
What exactly did the team lose that you are concerned about?

They will be better on offense than they were last year. Defense is a concern - especially the secondary, but Baalke doesn't seem concerned about Culliver and Cox's replacements.
Harbaugh.

I've posted before I don't have a complaint about the roster moves. Culliver just got hugely overpaid and Cox may be in line to get something similar. They have Brock and a ton of youngsters at CB. Baalke seems to be able to find decent guys at that spot late in the draft for cheap.

 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.
What exactly did the team lose that you are concerned about?

They will be better on offense than they were last year. Defense is a concern - especially the secondary, but Baalke doesn't seem concerned about Culliver and Cox's replacements.
Harbaugh.

I've posted before I don't have a complaint about the roster moves. Culliver just got hugely overpaid and Cox may be in line to get something similar. They have Brock and a ton of youngsters at CB. Baalke seems to be able to find decent guys at that spot late in the draft for cheap.
Harbough, willis, gore, smith, no wrs, Kaep still stinks, an oline that is meh, not much at cb, dline is weak...leadership, coaching

 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.
What exactly did the team lose that you are concerned about?

They will be better on offense than they were last year. Defense is a concern - especially the secondary, but Baalke doesn't seem concerned about Culliver and Cox's replacements.
Harbaugh.I've posted before I don't have a complaint about the roster moves. Culliver just got hugely overpaid and Cox may be in line to get something similar. They have Brock and a ton of youngsters at CB. Baalke seems to be able to find decent guys at that spot late in the draft for cheap.
Harbough, willis, gore, smith, no wrs, Kaep still stinks, an oline that is meh, not much at cb, dline is weak...leadership, coaching
Who knows if Bowman will be the same. Team is a shell of its former self.
 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.
What exactly did the team lose that you are concerned about?

They will be better on offense than they were last year. Defense is a concern - especially the secondary, but Baalke doesn't seem concerned about Culliver and Cox's replacements.
Harbaugh.I've posted before I don't have a complaint about the roster moves. Culliver just got hugely overpaid and Cox may be in line to get something similar. They have Brock and a ton of youngsters at CB. Baalke seems to be able to find decent guys at that spot late in the draft for cheap.
Harbough, willis, gore, smith, no wrs, Kaep still stinks, an oline that is meh, not much at cb, dline is weak...leadership, coaching
Who knows if Bowman will be the same. Team is a shell of its former self.
Forgot about that one...add it to the list

 
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.

 
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.

 
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.
He didn't say anything negative about the 49ers.

 
As a 49ers fan this may be one of the saddest off-seasons I have ever seen. I can't see how this team isn't an absolute debacle next season.
What exactly did the team lose that you are concerned about?

They will be better on offense than they were last year. Defense is a concern - especially the secondary, but Baalke doesn't seem concerned about Culliver and Cox's replacements.
Harbaugh.

I've posted before I don't have a complaint about the roster moves. Culliver just got hugely overpaid and Cox may be in line to get something similar. They have Brock and a ton of youngsters at CB. Baalke seems to be able to find decent guys at that spot late in the draft for cheap.
Harbough, willis, gore, smith, no wrs, Kaep still stinks, an oline that is meh, not much at cb, dline is weak...leadership, coaching
You and the other drama queen Niner fans in here should take some time off. Maybe wait a few games before you decide to light yourself on fire.

 
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.
He didn't say anything negative about the 49ers.
Are you really that obtuse?

 
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.
He didn't say anything negative about the 49ers.
Are you really that obtuse?
Are you that sensitive?

 
SF409ers said:
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.
:confused: wtf
 
So far weve lost Gore, Stevie Johnson, Iupati, Skuta, Culliver, Cox, Willis, Justin Smith, and will lose Crabtree

So far weve added Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Jerome Simpson, Darnell Dockett, Shareece Wright

I'm not suicidal about the roster moves...its coaching and front office that scares me. We know nothing about Tomsulas HC ability, but we do know how the FO likes to pull the strings and interfere.

The offense could actually take a step forward next season. Its all gonna hinge on coaching and if the players buy into whatever it is Tomsula will be selling, and if Jed and Trent let the coaches coach and stay out of it.

 
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Not so fast on Percy Harvin to the Bills, 49ers could be making a play per sources.
 
So far weve lost Gore, Stevie Johnson, Iupati, Skuta, Culliver, Cox, Willis, Justin Smith, and will lose Crabtree

So far weve added Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Jerome Simpson, Darnell Dockett, Shareece Wright

I'm not suicidal about the roster moves...its coaching and front office that scares me. We know nothing about Tomsulas HC ability, but we do know how the FO likes to pull the strings and interfere.

The offense could actually take a step forward next season. Its all gonna hinge on coaching and if the players buy into whatever it is Tomsula will be selling, and if Jed and Trent let the coaches coach and stay out of it.
Coaching, front office for sure. The big gap for me is the leadership...especially on defense. I think that unit takes a fairly big hit next year.

Plus I'm not a Kaep fan so I don't think he does anything this year regardless of who is around him

 
So far weve lost Gore, Stevie Johnson, Iupati, Skuta, Culliver, Cox, Willis, Justin Smith, and will lose Crabtree

So far weve added Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Jerome Simpson, Darnell Dockett, Shareece Wright

I'm not suicidal about the roster moves...its coaching and front office that scares me. We know nothing about Tomsulas HC ability, but we do know how the FO likes to pull the strings and interfere.

The offense could actually take a step forward next season. Its all gonna hinge on coaching and if the players buy into whatever it is Tomsula will be selling, and if Jed and Trent let the coaches coach and stay out of it.
I get 49ers fans concerns about Tomsula - he's a true wild card - but he's clearly a player's coach and stands a good chance of getting the most out of his team.

BTW, I put little stock in his awkward press conferences, all that matters is whether he can coach.

 
So far weve lost Gore, Stevie Johnson, Iupati, Skuta, Culliver, Cox, Willis, Justin Smith, and will lose Crabtree

So far weve added Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Jerome Simpson, Darnell Dockett, Shareece Wright

I'm not suicidal about the roster moves...its coaching and front office that scares me. We know nothing about Tomsulas HC ability, but we do know how the FO likes to pull the strings and interfere.

The offense could actually take a step forward next season. Its all gonna hinge on coaching and if the players buy into whatever it is Tomsula will be selling, and if Jed and Trent let the coaches coach and stay out of it.
Coaching, front office for sure. The big gap for me is the leadership...especially on defense. I think that unit takes a fairly big hit next year.

Plus I'm not a Kaep fan so I don't think he does anything this year regardless of who is around him
Bowman and Bethea on defense. If healthy and not suspended, and assuming Mangini doesn't screw things up (major assumptions), I think they are at least as good as last year on that side of the ball.
 
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flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
I'll be curious to see how Fangio does elsewhere. The roster was so good in SF he just played very vanilla and let his guys make plays. I'm not sure how he will fare without that talent level. When he played good offenses short handed last year (Denver, SD) he looked overmatched.

 
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
I'll be curious to see how Fangio does elsewhere. The roster was so good in SF he just played very vanilla and let his guys make plays. I'm not sure how he will fare without that talent level. When he played good offenses short handed last year (Denver, SD) he looked overmatched.
I agree with this. To many times last year when i would scream at them to do something creative on D and nothing...

 
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
I'll be curious to see how Fangio does elsewhere. The roster was so good in SF he just played very vanilla and let his guys make plays. I'm not sure how he will fare without that talent level. When he played good offenses short handed last year (Denver, SD) he looked overmatched.
You see talent in the defensive backfield? Where? Throughout his 9rs contract Fangio has been stuck with a revolving door of marginal DBs and he masked their lack of talent with scheme. Opposing GMs scoop them up each year in free agency only to see them show their absence of skills on their new teams and Baalke restocks with more mediocre guys for Fangio to weave into the next season's fog. Patrick Willis credited Fangio with understanding offensive tendencies and predicting offensive play calling better than anyone he had ever been around (see, e.g., Mike Singletary). Fangio is a talented DC. He will be missed.

 
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
I'll be curious to see how Fangio does elsewhere. The roster was so good in SF he just played very vanilla and let his guys make plays. I'm not sure how he will fare without that talent level. When he played good offenses short handed last year (Denver, SD) he looked overmatched.
You see talent in the defensive backfield? Where? Throughout his 9rs contract Fangio has been stuck with a revolving door of marginal DBs and he masked their lack of talent with scheme. Opposing GMs scoop them up each year in free agency only to see them show their absence of skills on their new teams and Baalke restocks with more mediocre guys for Fangio to weave into the next season's fog. Patrick Willis credited Fangio with understanding offensive tendencies and predicting offensive play calling better than anyone he had ever been around (see, e.g., Mike Singletary). Fangio is a talented DC. He will be missed.
Maybe. :shrug: we'll see. The secondary looked good only as long as the front 4 was getting pressure.

 
Now Justin Smith too?
Who knows if Bowman will be the same. Team is a shell of its former self.
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
SF409ers said:
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.
:confused: wtf
:shrug: thought you were trolling. Niner fans have enough Debbie Downers as it is.

Nothing save for Willis retiring has been that unexpected. The coaching staff has yet to prove themselves but the roster is still fairly loaded. The def is going to pretty much be the same def as last year which was one of the better squads in the league and the offense has nowhere to go but up. Sky is not falling but people tend to enjoy doing the drama queen dance.

 
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
I'll be curious to see how Fangio does elsewhere. The roster was so good in SF he just played very vanilla and let his guys make plays. I'm not sure how he will fare without that talent level. When he played good offenses short handed last year (Denver, SD) he looked overmatched.
You see talent in the defensive backfield? Where? Throughout his 9rs contract Fangio has been stuck with a revolving door of marginal DBs and he masked their lack of talent with scheme. Opposing GMs scoop them up each year in free agency only to see them show their absence of skills on their new teams and Baalke restocks with more mediocre guys for Fangio to weave into the next season's fog.Patrick Willis credited Fangio with understanding offensive tendencies and predicting offensive play calling better than anyone he had ever been around (see, e.g., Mike Singletary). Fangio is a talented DC. He will be missed.
Maybe. :shrug: we'll see. The secondary looked good only as long as the front 4 was getting pressure.
Agree. The Niners secondary for the last several years has always been made better by the front 7. Acker flashed last pre-seaon and I thought Johnson played well at times. Brock and Ward are healthy and they still have the draft. Front 7 with Lynch, A Smith, Bowman, Borland, Dorsey and bunch of good role players on the d-line will still pretty solid. Oh and they have 2 pretty good safeties as well.

 
Now Justin Smith too?
Who knows if Bowman will be the same. Team is a shell of its former self.
flapgreen said:
I feel for 49ers fans, but as a Bears fan, I have to say I'm happy we now have one of the best defensive staffs in the league. Never imagined that after the past two putrid seasons.
SF409ers said:
Thanks for your concern. Should probably go celebrate your excitement in your own homer thread. Never understood why fans of other teams feel the need to chime in negatively on a team they don't root for. Must be some kind of personal insecurity issue.
:confused: wtf
:shrug: thought you were trolling. Niner fans have enough Debbie Downers as it is.

Nothing save for Willis retiring has been that unexpected. The coaching staff has yet to prove themselves but the roster is still fairly loaded. The def is going to pretty much be the same def as last year which was one of the better squads in the league and the offense has nowhere to go but up. Sky is not falling but people tend to enjoy doing the drama queen dance.
It's disappointing seeing any successful team fall apart this fast, especially hearing how the owner has been such a egotistical jerk throughout the whole thing. I would much prefer Harbaugh and the 49ers do well instead of the Seahawks.
 
Like others have mentioned, I also have mixed feelings about Fangio... There was a ton of talent up front and somewhat of a cluster#### in the secondary during his tenure in SF.

It could've been him masking the awful secondary, or the front 7 making him look good. I didn't want to see him go, so that's where I lean. Curious to see how he does in Chicago.

In the secondary, I'm really excited about Eric Reid though, I think he can be really special.

 

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