*** Official SF 49ers 2015 thread *** Chip Kelly new HC (1 Viewer)

[flapgreen]

@MaioccoCSN: Just spoke to member of #49ers coaching staff who said the assistants are in the dark about the teams plans. They havent heard a thing.

 

[thecatch]

I don't really know much about Trestman - would he really be that bad as an OC?

dude just get on your knees and pray it doesn't happen.

Worst case it would be the Niners' second worst hiring this week.

 

[thecatch]

@MaioccoCSN: Just spoke to member of #49ers coaching staff who said the assistants are in the dark about the teams plans. They havent heard a thing.

Fox reporting they are all out except Rathman.

 

[flapgreen]

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

I know, right? And why didn't they interview Gase? Bizzare front office moves.

 

[Wingnut]

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

I know, right? And why didn't they interview Gase? Bizzare front office moves.

They interviewed Gase twice. But then Denver jumped into the mix.

 

[Wingnut]

Trestman will go to Oak anyway IMO...

 

[Raiderfan32904]

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

I know, right? And why didn't they interview Gase? Bizzare front office moves.

They interviewed Gase twice. But then Denver jumped into the mix.

Wow, bummer. Two interviews eh? Gase must have bombed his interview.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Trestman will go to Oak anyway IMO...

I hope so. Latavius would be a pass catching stud in Trestman's offense.

 

[Wingnut]

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

So what's the reason for not interviewing Fangio? Guy is awesome.

I know, right? And why didn't they interview Gase? Bizzare front office moves.

They interviewed Gase twice. But then Denver jumped into the mix.

Wow, bummer. Two interviews eh? Gase must have bombed his interview.

No, they wanted him (hes the only candidate they gave a 2nd interview to)...but when Denver made a push they probably didn't wanna get in a bidding war. Plus, they wanted to hire someone asap.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Since when do the 49ers and their fancy schmancy billion dollar venue back down from a bidding war?

 

[Wingnut]

Trestman will go to Oak anyway IMO...

I hope so. Latavius would be a pass catching stud in Trestman's offense.

How do you know? He hasn't had an NFL OC gig since 2003 (in Oakland strangely enough)

 

[Wingnut]

Since when do the 49ers and their fancy schmancy billion dollar venue back down from a bidding war?

Over the past 20 years they haven't exactly paid for top shelf coaching talent outside of Harbaugh.

 

[ImTheScientist]

looks like they hired a puppet. It can still kind of work out...look at Jason Garret.

 

[Braktastic]

I'll admit it. I am dismayed by the Jim Tomsula hiring, but it really isn't all that surprising. York obviously believes that Marathe and Baalke are the brains of this operation. They all obviously feel that Harbaugh is interchangeable. Perhaps they feel that Harbaugh is what was needed to initially turn the organization and mindset of the team around, but now the culture and the players are in place to continue to be competitive without his abrasive personality, histrionics, and desire for more control. I don't have high hopes of this working out myself, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Long story short, this is a soft reboot put in place by people motivated to keep their positions of power and responsibility. If it works out, they'll look like geniuses. If it doesn't, it'll pave the way for a hard reboot that is probably what it would've taken to bring in a sexier head coach candidate anyway.

 

[Scoresman]

I'll admit it. I am dismayed by the Jim Tomsula hiring, but it really isn't all that surprising. York obviously believes that Marathe and Baalke are the brains of this operation. They all obviously feel that Harbaugh is interchangeable. Perhaps they feel that Harbaugh is what was needed to initially turn the organization and mindset of the team around, but now the culture and the players are in place to continue to be competitive without his abrasive personality, histrionics, and desire for more control. I don't have high hopes of this working out myself, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Long story short, this is a soft reboot put in place by people motivated to keep their positions of power and responsibility. If it works out, they'll look like geniuses. If it doesn't, it'll pave the way for a hard reboot that is probably what it would've taken to bring in a sexier head coach candidate anyway.

its not going to work out

 

[Spin]

Why oh why didn't they just listen to Madden.

Madden said on KCBS. “It’s a lot easier to get a suit than it is to get a coach.”

 

[fantasycurse42]

I'm almost at the point where I'm just boycotting them until York is out (obviously I can't root for anyone else, but I just hate York). #### him, he's an arrogant cocky #######, which I'd have no issue with if he could put his ego aside to do what is best for the team instead of destroying them. I struggle to root for a team that he is in charge of.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

So tell us how you really feel about York, don't pull any punches.

 

[cstu]

His name sounds like Don Shula...that's gotta be a good thing, right?

 

[Spin]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm
Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers

Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

 

[Wingnut]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm

Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers



Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

Wouldn't have done much good, Kaep never had enough time to let a deep threat get down the field, let alone be able to get the ball to him.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

@ProFootballTalk: Jim Tomsula probably won't be doing many one-on-one interviews http://t.co/kgRpRUvC59

 

[Spin]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm

Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers



Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

Wouldn't have done much good, Kaep never had enough time to let a deep threat get down the field, let alone be able to get the ball to him.

Perhaps. Eli seems to just chuck and hope or bullet a slant route. It'd be nice to see a WR that Kaep can't overthrow, kind of like Vernon on the middle seam before he got hurt.

 

[avina1]

oh my god this interview is awful LOL.

 

[Wingnut]

@ProFootballTalk: Jim Tomsula probably won't be doing many one-on-one interviews http://t.co/kgRpRUvC59

I think they hired the most anti Harbaugh guy they could find.

 

[Wingnut]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm

Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers



Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

Wouldn't have done much good, Kaep never had enough time to let a deep threat get down the field, let alone be able to get the ball to him.

Perhaps. Eli seems to just chuck and hope or bullet a slant route. It'd be nice to see a WR that Kaep can't overthrow, kind of like Vernon on the middle seam before he got hurt.

True, but Harbaugh probably would have red shirted him for his first season, only to be traded or released down the road after never being given playing time.

 

[Spin]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm

Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers



Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

Wouldn't have done much good, Kaep never had enough time to let a deep threat get down the field, let alone be able to get the ball to him.

Perhaps. Eli seems to just chuck and hope or bullet a slant route. It'd be nice to see a WR that Kaep can't overthrow, kind of like Vernon on the middle seam before he got hurt.

True, but Harbaugh probably would have red shirted him for his first season, only to be traded or released down the road after never being given playing time.

Arguing with Drummer has made you bitter

 

[Wingnut]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm

Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers



Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

Wouldn't have done much good, Kaep never had enough time to let a deep threat get down the field, let alone be able to get the ball to him.

Perhaps. Eli seems to just chuck and hope or bullet a slant route. It'd be nice to see a WR that Kaep can't overthrow, kind of like Vernon on the middle seam before he got hurt.

True, but Harbaugh probably would have red shirted him for his first season, only to be traded or released down the road after never being given playing time.

Arguing with Drummer has made you bitter

Wow. I think you're right. Lol

 

[flapgreen]

We'll take Fangio, fellas.

 

[Wingnut]

We'll take Fangio, fellas.

I think he ends up in Arizona if Bowles gets hired somewhere...Fangio as Cardinals DC would be scary.

 

[thecatch]

Isn't it weird that Tomsula is completely dismantling the staff? He's worked with all these guys for 4+ years and most of them are highly regarded. Seems like he would have had better relationships in the building.

 

[Wingnut]

Isn't it weird that Tomsula is completely dismantling the staff? He's worked with all these guys for 4+ years and most of them are highly regarded. Seems like he would have had better relationships in the building.

Which guys are you referring to? SF has fired Fangio, Donatell and Leavitt. Basically everyone but RB coach Rathman...I dont think Tomsula had any input on those decisions.

 

[Wingnut]

Ive read a few articles that say Tomsula wants to run the ball more, including Kaep.

Talk is cheap, but we shall see.

 

[thecatch]

Isn't it weird that Tomsula is completely dismantling the staff? He's worked with all these guys for 4+ years and most of them are highly regarded. Seems like he would have had better relationships in the building.

Which guys are you referring to? SF has fired Fangio, Donatell and Leavitt. Basically everyone but RB coach Rathman...I dont think Tomsula had any input on those decisions.

if Tomsula didn't have any input on his staff, that's a huge problem in of itself. But guys like Brad Seely, Solari, and Donatel are considered among the best in the league at their jobs. Understandable that Fangio wants to move on, but they should be keeping some of these guys, especially if part of the rationale for hiring Tomsula is continuity.

 

[Wingnut]

Isn't it weird that Tomsula is completely dismantling the staff? He's worked with all these guys for 4+ years and most of them are highly regarded. Seems like he would have had better relationships in the building.

Which guys are you referring to? SF has fired Fangio, Donatell and Leavitt. Basically everyone but RB coach Rathman...I dont think Tomsula had any input on those decisions.

if Tomsula didn't have any input on his staff, that's a huge problem in of itself. But guys like Brad Seely, Solari, and Donatel are considered among the best in the league at their jobs. Understandable that Fangio wants to move on, but they should be keeping some of these guys, especially if part of the rationale for hiring Tomsula is continuity.

They fired those guys before hiring Tomsula...a few were gonna walk or request to be let go anyway...I wonder if they knew at the time that Tomsula was their guy, or if they asked his opinion/input.

 

[thecatch]

Isn't it weird that Tomsula is completely dismantling the staff? He's worked with all these guys for 4+ years and most of them are highly regarded. Seems like he would have had better relationships in the building.

Which guys are you referring to? SF has fired Fangio, Donatell and Leavitt. Basically everyone but RB coach Rathman...I dont think Tomsula had any input on those decisions.

if Tomsula didn't have any input on his staff, that's a huge problem in of itself. But guys like Brad Seely, Solari, and Donatel are considered among the best in the league at their jobs. Understandable that Fangio wants to move on, but they should be keeping some of these guys, especially if part of the rationale for hiring Tomsula is continuity.

They fired those guys before hiring Tomsula...a few were gonna walk or request to be let go anyway...I wonder if they knew at the time that Tomsula was their guy, or if they asked his opinion/input.

They didn't fire them in advance. Solari was fired the day after, for example.

 

[drummer]

49ers GM almost traded a 1st ,2nd and a 3rd to get Beckham

geemanfan : 10:19 pm

Wow RT @Christian_Gin: Trent Baalke told @957thegame that he held back at trading a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to move up for Odell Beckham. #49ers



Ward was terrible this year. Hyde/Martin look like they will be solid. But I'd easily trade them for ODB ><

Wouldn't have done much good, Kaep never had enough time to let a deep threat get down the field, let alone be able to get the ball to him.

Perhaps. Eli seems to just chuck and hope or bullet a slant route. It'd be nice to see a WR that Kaep can't overthrow, kind of like Vernon on the middle seam before he got hurt.

True, but Harbaugh probably would have red shirted him for his first season, only to be traded or released down the road after never being given playing time.

Arguing with Drummer has made you bitter

Wow. I think you're right. Lol

Hey man, you called me bitter first.

Just saw a bit of Tomsula's interview on Comcast.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/16/jim-tomsula-needs-to-work-on-his-interview-game/

Either he is a total genius, or just a guy who just wants to eat his bowl of soup and still get paid. Yet, it's pretty clear that other spoons will be feeding his bowl into his own mouth.

Anybody who doesn't get this metaphor:

http://deadspin.com/the-49ers-new-head-coach-is-some-guy-youve-never-heard-1679565085

Oh, no, no. And again, up until Monday, the only evaluation I have is on defensive lineman, front seven, defensive play, OK? And I'm a guy that through the course of my coaching career, I've held different positions, and I keep my spoon in my soup. I don't taste your soup.

Latest speculation now is that Rat Shanahan maybe a FO choice for OC. Already Jed is pulling a Eddie on Ronsula like Eddie did with Seifert with Moochie, and Seifert won a ton more games, lol.

Ronsula wins one meaningless game, and Jed already wanted to crown his hedgehog ###. Because, like he crowned Singletary and his bare ###, he "sounded like a football coach".

I've gone beyond bitter man. I'm absolutely loving this ####.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

We'll take Fangio, fellas.

I think he ends up in Arizona if Bowles gets hired somewhere...Fangio as Cardinals DC would be scary.

Somewhere?Jets hired Bowles already.

 

[Wingnut]

We'll take Fangio, fellas.

I think he ends up in Arizona if Bowles gets hired somewhere...Fangio as Cardinals DC would be scary.

Somewhere?Jets hired Bowles already.

Oh. Well I hope Vic doesn't end up in Zona.

 

[drummer]

People in the NFL circles might really feel that Fangio is a product of both Jim and John Harbaugh. His only other DC job in the NFL was with the HOU Texans under Capers. In HOU, even with Capers, the defense was ranked in the bottom third of the league, except for 2004, when it was ranked 15th in PA, with the lowest at the very gutter of 32nd in PA in one particular season.

Former SF DC prior to Jim Harbaugh was Greg Manusky. Manusky since 2012 is now with IND. His defenses there in three or so seasons peaked at 9th overall, with the other two in the bottom third tier in the same category.

Now here is something to think about:

In 2009, Manusky's defense under Singletary was 4th in PA. Without Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith (who really has zero impact as opposed to Von Miller respectively), and a secondary.

I don't mean to piss certain people off here because I used Chase Stuart's and Co. curated historical numbers, but what I am trying to ask others here is which weighs more: the chicken, the egg, the GMO stat infused egg, the egg that has a true organic DNA, or the feathered who would rather not think about this because they would rather not negotiate how to reason to the other side of the road.

All this being said, Fangio has only been successful under Jim Harbaugh.

 

[flapgreen]

We'll take Fangio, fellas.

I think he ends up in Arizona if Bowles gets hired somewhere...Fangio as Cardinals DC would be scary.

Interviewing in Chicago today

 

[Wingnut]

We'll take Fangio, fellas.

I think he ends up in Arizona if Bowles gets hired somewhere...Fangio as Cardinals DC would be scary.

Interviewing in Chicago today

That'll work.

 

[flapgreen]

Fire Fangio and the other D staff. Promote DL to HC. Now looking at Lane Kiffin for OC. WTF

 

[Wingnut]

Fire Fangio and the other D staff. Promote DL to HC. Now looking at Lane Kiffin for OC. WTF

I, for one, am firmly in the Lane Kiffin camp for this job

 

[Ted Stickles]

Just saw a bit of Tomsula's interview on Comcast.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/16/jim-tomsula-needs-to-work-on-his-interview-game/

Either he is a total genius, or just a guy who just wants to eat his bowl of soup and still get paid. Yet, it's pretty clear that other spoons will be feeding his bowl into his own mouth.

That CSNBA interview was the saddest and most embarrassing interview I have ever seen.

A head coach in the NFL should be able to verbally communicate... this was the polar opposite and reminded me of a train-wreck you'd expect to see in a 7th grade public speaking class presentation.

That Brian Murphy interview with Jed was fantastic as well.

What a complete F-up by Jed/Trent and their yes men.

 

[Ted Stickles]

Fire Fangio and the other D staff. Promote DL to HC. Now looking at Lane Kiffin for OC. WTF

I, for one, am firmly in the Lane Kiffin camp for this job

Lane Kiffin is a little weenie of a weasel.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Lane Kiffin? What happened to this franchise?

 

[Capella]

So from Jim Harbaugh to the Dline coach and Lane Kiffin.

It literally gets no worse than that.

 

[Mark Davis]

I love the 49ers but good God this is turning into a dumpster fire on the coaching staff. I hope I'm wrong. This could result in the PSL's selling for pennies on the dollar by the time it's done.