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Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.

 
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Away match, they got full pointstheir entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Deny it all you want, but De Gea is soft. Ferdinand is hurt again already. If they had been playing someone better than West Brom, they would have lost.
 
Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Were we watching the same game? After the first 10-15 minutes, there were solid stretches when WBA was clearly getting the run of the play. WBA had more shots and more shots on goal.Just saw that Rio is out for 6 weeks and Rafael is out for 10. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/943878/manchester-united%27s-rio-ferdinand-ruled-out-for-six-weeks?cc=5901

 
Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Were we watching the same game? After the first 10-15 minutes, there were solid stretches when WBA was clearly getting the run of the play. WBA had more shots and more shots on goal.Just saw that Rio is out for 6 weeks and Rafael is out for 10. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/943878/manchester-united%27s-rio-ferdinand-ruled-out-for-six-weeks?cc=5901
WBA had about 1-2 dangerous chances the entire game.Nani blew at least one sitter, and had another very good chance. Possession ended 60/40, but most of the game was at least 66/33

United's away form was poor last year, they start off this season with a win.

Chelsea/Liverpool and Arsenal all draw against teams they were favored. All in all, these results were outstanding for United.

Rio injury is mildly concerning, although tbh, I thought Jones looked pretty good out there.

The sight of Smalling "attacking" down the right wing doesn't particular strike fear into many opponents, but getting Evra back would be a boost. United has two games in the next two weeks, so they'll have time to heal.

We can revisit just how vulnerable United are around thanksgiving. I didn't see it :shrug:

 
Barca XI

ValdesAlves Macherano Abidal Adriano Keita Thiago IniestaSanchez Messi Villa
Alexis in the starting lineup!! No Puyol, Pique, Busquets, or Xavi. (or Cesc)

El Clasico starts in 5 minutes!!

 
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Madrid has dominated the first 35 minutes but Villa just put in a world class goal from the top of the box to make it 1-1.

Madrid looks scary good, Barca looks like its still preseason.

 
Also its officially official.

Cesc Fabregas is going back home. Arsenal just announced he has been sold to Barcelona. He is flying to sign the papers, have the medical and press conference tomorrow.

 
What a great game. 2-2 after the first leg. For the way the game was played and being played at the Bernabeu, it's a great result for Barca. Victor Valdes the man of the match.

Excited for the Camp Nou on Wednesday!

 
Still nothing definite announced on either Keane or JPA.

There are about a million tweets ranging from its all signed (3.5m fee, and roughly 4.5m per year salary), to JPA is still on the books and wants to go to Union or retire.

Only a few hours left but there seems to be too much information floating for something not to happen.

 
Finally settling in to watch the game after work, Breaking Bad, and UFC. Interesting lineup. Showcasing the depth even before Cesc gets there. God I hope Barca wins this.

 
Spectacular focus by the GOAT. Awesome goal.

Can't believe the halftime scoreline after Madrid controlling the first 30mins. Barca still needs to find their game in the 2nd to take this.

 
Just not on the same page. Great result for how they played, but still had chances to win. Don't remember the last time Barca had so many unfirced turnovers. Two spectacular individual efforts get them a tie and two huge away goals.

 
Finally settling in to watch the game after work, Breaking Bad, and UFC. Interesting lineup. Showcasing the depth even before Cesc gets there. God I hope Barca wins this.
Guess that was more of a desperation play than a showcase. This game emphasized Barca need for bolstering the central D and the need for not messing with the midfield too much. Can't believe they had $40+ mil to spend and used it on a midfielder instead of a defender.
 
Finally settling in to watch the game after work, Breaking Bad, and UFC. Interesting lineup. Showcasing the depth even before Cesc gets there. God I hope Barca wins this.
Guess that was more of a desperation play than a showcase. This game emphasized Barca need for bolstering the central D and the need for not messing with the midfield too much. Can't believe they had $40+ mil to spend and used it on a midfielder instead of a defender.
Agreed. While I was hoping to see Barca whip Madrid, part of me thought that if Madrid scored 3 or 4 that perhaps it would wake up the management to the fact they need another defender, which wouldn't be a bad thing. Still wondering why they have been so hell-bent on Cesc this off-season when Thiago seems capable of spelling Xavi this season in the Copa del Rey and against lesser teams in La Liga.
 
Somethings coming. JPA was absent at practice yesterday for LA and the Galaxy president tweeted the following late last night after a barrage of questions about the transfer deadline.

Tom Payne (@galaxyprez)

8/15/11 12:01 AM

Obviously the deadline is tonight at 11:59 pm EST, but any announcement of player signings would likely be tmmw.

 
Ives has tweeted that LA was able to "convince" JPA to accept a trade to Chivas instead of retiring. His theory was that LA offered JPA a front office job for next season.

LA needs JPA to not retire else his salary stays on the cap and they can't bring in Keane.

 
'guru_007 said:
'Christo said:
Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Were we watching the same game? After the first 10-15 minutes, there were solid stretches when WBA was clearly getting the run of the play. WBA had more shots and more shots on goal.Just saw that Rio is out for 6 weeks and Rafael is out for 10. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/943878/manchester-united%27s-rio-ferdinand-ruled-out-for-six-weeks?cc=5901
WBA had about 1-2 dangerous chances the entire game.Nani blew at least one sitter, and had another very good chance. Possession ended 60/40, but most of the game was at least 66/33

United's away form was poor last year, they start off this season with a win.

Chelsea/Liverpool and Arsenal all draw against teams they were favored. All in all, these results were outstanding for United.

Rio injury is mildly concerning, although tbh, I thought Jones looked pretty good out there.

The sight of Smalling "attacking" down the right wing doesn't particular strike fear into many opponents, but getting Evra back would be a boost. United has two games in the next two weeks, so they'll have time to heal.

We can revisit just how vulnerable United are around thanksgiving. I didn't see it :shrug:
It's not just me.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/805034-5-things-we-learned-from-the-premier-league-weekend/page/3

 
'guru_007 said:
'Christo said:
Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Were we watching the same game? After the first 10-15 minutes, there were solid stretches when WBA was clearly getting the run of the play. WBA had more shots and more shots on goal.Just saw that Rio is out for 6 weeks and Rafael is out for 10. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/943878/manchester-united%27s-rio-ferdinand-ruled-out-for-six-weeks?cc=5901
WBA had about 1-2 dangerous chances the entire game.Nani blew at least one sitter, and had another very good chance. Possession ended 60/40, but most of the game was at least 66/33

United's away form was poor last year, they start off this season with a win.

Chelsea/Liverpool and Arsenal all draw against teams they were favored. All in all, these results were outstanding for United.

Rio injury is mildly concerning, although tbh, I thought Jones looked pretty good out there.

The sight of Smalling "attacking" down the right wing doesn't particular strike fear into many opponents, but getting Evra back would be a boost. United has two games in the next two weeks, so they'll have time to heal.

We can revisit just how vulnerable United are around thanksgiving. I didn't see it :shrug:
It's not just me.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/805034-5-things-we-learned-from-the-premier-league-weekend/page/3
Bleacher Report isn't exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity
 
'guru_007 said:
'Christo said:
Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Were we watching the same game? After the first 10-15 minutes, there were solid stretches when WBA was clearly getting the run of the play. WBA had more shots and more shots on goal.Just saw that Rio is out for 6 weeks and Rafael is out for 10. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/943878/manchester-united%27s-rio-ferdinand-ruled-out-for-six-weeks?cc=5901
WBA had about 1-2 dangerous chances the entire game.Nani blew at least one sitter, and had another very good chance. Possession ended 60/40, but most of the game was at least 66/33

United's away form was poor last year, they start off this season with a win.

Chelsea/Liverpool and Arsenal all draw against teams they were favored. All in all, these results were outstanding for United.

Rio injury is mildly concerning, although tbh, I thought Jones looked pretty good out there.

The sight of Smalling "attacking" down the right wing doesn't particular strike fear into many opponents, but getting Evra back would be a boost. United has two games in the next two weeks, so they'll have time to heal.

We can revisit just how vulnerable United are around thanksgiving. I didn't see it :shrug:
It's not just me.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/805034-5-things-we-learned-from-the-premier-league-weekend/page/3
Bleacher Report isn't exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity
You sound Republican.
 
Been a while since I posted here ... just thought I would add my $0.02 about the Klinsman hire.

Love the guy, love his style of play and his drive. Love what he can do for the national team. The much needed discipline and aggressive attacking structure of "team first". (Anyone else notice his first impact was to remove names from jerseys and renumber everyone 1-18?) But, I think it is eight years too late when we should have pressed him harder back in '03.

 
Been a while since I posted here ... just thought I would add my $0.02 about the Klinsman hire.Love the guy, love his style of play and his drive. Love what he can do for the national team. The much needed discipline and aggressive attacking structure of "team first". (Anyone else notice his first impact was to remove names from jerseys and renumber everyone 1-18?) But, I think it is eight years too late when we should have pressed him harder back in '03.
I agree with all thoughts here. I think you meant 2006, not 2003 though. US first contacted him after Arena stepped down after the 2006.As for the numbers I love the idea. He is trying to stress to everyone they need to compete for the numbers and no one should feel comfortable.As for the names, I think that was a slight over-site on his part. I read that he simply made the idea of the numbers being earned instead of assigned too late and the equipment manager could not get the names on the shirts in time for the game. Will be interesting to see if they have their names on the shirts in the next couple of games.
 
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'guru_007 said:
'Christo said:
Away match, they got full points

their entire back four were backups, they had no chichirito, yet they still controlled the game.

If that's vulnerable, well, may as well send them the trophy now and let them concentrate on trying to beat barca for the CL.
Were we watching the same game? After the first 10-15 minutes, there were solid stretches when WBA was clearly getting the run of the play. WBA had more shots and more shots on goal.Just saw that Rio is out for 6 weeks and Rafael is out for 10. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/943878/manchester-united%27s-rio-ferdinand-ruled-out-for-six-weeks?cc=5901
WBA had about 1-2 dangerous chances the entire game.Nani blew at least one sitter, and had another very good chance. Possession ended 60/40, but most of the game was at least 66/33

United's away form was poor last year, they start off this season with a win.

Chelsea/Liverpool and Arsenal all draw against teams they were favored. All in all, these results were outstanding for United.

Rio injury is mildly concerning, although tbh, I thought Jones looked pretty good out there.

The sight of Smalling "attacking" down the right wing doesn't particular strike fear into many opponents, but getting Evra back would be a boost. United has two games in the next two weeks, so they'll have time to heal.

We can revisit just how vulnerable United are around thanksgiving. I didn't see it :shrug:
It's not just me.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/805034-5-things-we-learned-from-the-premier-league-weekend/page/3
Bleacher Report isn't exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity
And guru_007 is? It's an observation. Nothing more or less. And what Bleacher Report, Smoovy and I saw was a bit of luck for ManU to get the win.After 10 minutes it looked like ManU was going to blow them off the pitch. They got the early goal and relaxed a little. While in-form ManU teams from the past could have coasted to an easy victory, it seemed like some of the young players took their foot off the pedal expecting to get the result like ManU always does. Not something that can't be corrected. But on the day they were lucky to get the three points.

 
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Been a while since I posted here ... just thought I would add my $0.02 about the Klinsman hire.Love the guy, love his style of play and his drive. Love what he can do for the national team. The much needed discipline and aggressive attacking structure of "team first". (Anyone else notice his first impact was to remove names from jerseys and renumber everyone 1-18?) But, I think it is eight years too late when we should have pressed him harder back in '03.
I agree with all thoughts here. I think you meant 2006, not 2003 though. US first contacted him after Arena stepped down after the 2006.As for the numbers I love the idea. He is trying to stress to everyone they need to compete for the numbers and no one should feel comfortable.As for the names, I think that was a slight over-site on his part. I read that he simply made the idea of the numbers being earned instead of assigned too late and the equipment manager could not get the names on the shirts in time for the game. Will be interesting to see if they have their names on the shirts in the next couple of games.
Correct, '06. ... and I hope the names stay off the jerseys.
 
Been a while since I posted here ... just thought I would add my $0.02 about the Klinsman hire.Love the guy, love his style of play and his drive. Love what he can do for the national team. The much needed discipline and aggressive attacking structure of "team first". (Anyone else notice his first impact was to remove names from jerseys and renumber everyone 1-18?) But, I think it is eight years too late when we should have pressed him harder back in '03.
I agree with all thoughts here. I think you meant 2006, not 2003 though. US first contacted him after Arena stepped down after the 2006.As for the numbers I love the idea. He is trying to stress to everyone they need to compete for the numbers and no one should feel comfortable.As for the names, I think that was a slight over-site on his part. I read that he simply made the idea of the numbers being earned instead of assigned too late and the equipment manager could not get the names on the shirts in time for the game. Will be interesting to see if they have their names on the shirts in the next couple of games.
Correct, '06. ... and I hope the names stay off the jerseys.
it will be interesting to see what happens. The US does a decent business off of selling shirts with the names on them. Not sure what type of monkey wrench this throws into that if at all.
 
Been a while since I posted here ... just thought I would add my $0.02 about the Klinsman hire.Love the guy, love his style of play and his drive. Love what he can do for the national team. The much needed discipline and aggressive attacking structure of "team first". (Anyone else notice his first impact was to remove names from jerseys and renumber everyone 1-18?) But, I think it is eight years too late when we should have pressed him harder back in '03.
I agree with all thoughts here. I think you meant 2006, not 2003 though. US first contacted him after Arena stepped down after the 2006.As for the numbers I love the idea. He is trying to stress to everyone they need to compete for the numbers and no one should feel comfortable.As for the names, I think that was a slight over-site on his part. I read that he simply made the idea of the numbers being earned instead of assigned too late and the equipment manager could not get the names on the shirts in time for the game. Will be interesting to see if they have their names on the shirts in the next couple of games.
Correct, '06. ... and I hope the names stay off the jerseys.
it will be interesting to see what happens. The US does a decent business off of selling shirts with the names on them. Not sure what type of monkey wrench this throws into that if at all.
Kind of ironic since Klinsmann made a big deal about his lucky #18 shirt as a player
 
I think taking names off the jerseys is petty. These guys aren't in High School. They are pros. If they aren't getting with the program they aren't going to become different players if their name is taken off their shirt.

 
I think taking names off the jerseys is petty. These guys aren't in High School. They are pros. If they aren't getting with the program they aren't going to become different players if their name is taken off their shirt.
You don't think it might have some effect on the younger players that haven't been given much of a chance by Bradley? Letting them know things are starting with a clean slate and that no one's position is guaranteed?
 
I think taking names off the jerseys is petty. These guys aren't in High School. They are pros. If they aren't getting with the program they aren't going to become different players if their name is taken off their shirt.
You don't think it might have some effect on the younger players that haven't been given much of a chance by Bradley? Letting them know things are starting with a clean slate and that no one's position is guaranteed?
I think there's some negligible symbolic value that'll be good for a couple of games. Ultimately, Klinsmann's impact will be determined by the numbers on the scoreboard, not the names on the shirts.
 
I think taking names off the jerseys is petty. These guys aren't in High School. They are pros. If they aren't getting with the program they aren't going to become different players if their name is taken off their shirt.
Like I said earlier, the names not being on the jersey was a mistake supposedly as they did not have enough time to get them on. The quote was from Klinsmann himself.http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/11/klinsmann-plays-jerseys-by-the-numbers/"As for the lack of names on the jerseys? Klinsmann answered that with a sheepish shrug. There was no time for the team’s staff to put them on the shirts with the corresponding numbers. “I just told them this morning,” he said of the 1-11 plan."
 
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Did I hear the stat correctly? Never in the history of the top division in England has a week of games gone by and at least not one home team winning.

I guess the postponement of a couple of games made this easier to achieve.

Although the game on now should fix that. They can't keep hitting the cross bar.

 
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I think taking names off the jerseys is petty. These guys aren't in High School. They are pros. If they aren't getting with the program they aren't going to become different players if their name is taken off their shirt.
I don't know why you would think it was petty. Yankees are pros, and manage to play without names.The only issue I see, is one someone else already brought up - jersey sales.
 
I think taking names off the jerseys is petty. These guys aren't in High School. They are pros. If they aren't getting with the program they aren't going to become different players if their name is taken off their shirt.
I don't know why you would think it was petty. Yankees are pros, and manage to play without names.The only issue I see, is one someone else already brought up - jersey sales.
That's because the Yankees are the ultimate team players, less concerned about individual stats and accolades than the greater good of the team :rolleyes:
 
Did I hear the stat correctly? Never in the history of the top division in England has a week of games gone by and at least not one home team winning. I guess the postponement of a couple of games made this easier to achieve. Although the game on now should fix that. They can't keep hitting the cross bar.
Never is a very long time
 

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