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Jaysus
Good times!
The Gator
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Jaysus
Good times!
B Maverick
Footballguy
58' and Di Maria is off for Januzaj after another disappointing display. His passing is off, his is getting stripped of the ball easily and he isnt shooting.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Newcastle blow it on a 2 v 1 break. 0-0
Cisse sends it wide of the mark
Cisse sends it wide of the mark
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Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Swans have imploded.
shader
Footballguy
Jaysus
Good times!
Jaysus
Good times!
B Maverick
Footballguy
Newcastle gives Young a gift and its 1-0 Manchester United!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B Maverick
Footballguy
De Gea !!!!
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Weird that a win feels like a loss, but that late ManU goal just takes the life out of the day for Liverpool fans. Good win obviously, but at some point we will drop a few points too. I'm hanging my hat on the fact that ManU has an impossible run of games coming up, and the fact that in my opinion Liverpool is the 2nd best team in the EPL right now, and their quality will eventually get them to the top 4.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
6 of the top 7 won today, and Southampton won yesterday, so no points dropped this matchday in the top 7.
B Maverick
Footballguy
A draw there and it was over for United in the top 4. Liverpool are playing too well and Gerrard isnt on the field to slip it up. You are right on the upcoming fixtures for United including a game AT Liverpool. Not going to be easy for United esp if they lose to or draw teams like Newcastle.
Tottenham (H)
Liverpool (a)
Villa (h)
City (h)
Chelsea (a)
Everton (a)
WBA (h)
Palace (a)
Arsenal (h)
Hull (a)
53 pts, 1 behind Arsenal, 2 up on Liverpool, 4 up on Southampton
shader
Footballguy
The ManU-Liverpool game is shaping up to be just a massively important game. Glad we have that one at home. Arsenal is playing phenomenal right now (outside of CL), and so it's going to be tough for Liverpool to climb past them, especially with their head-to-head game being an away game.
Tom Hagen
Footballguy
Can someone explain why Falcao, DiMaria and Mata are all struggling for LvG? At first I chalked it up to Falcao's health and DiMaria's adjustment to England but it seems weird that 3 great players are in such poor form. Is it tactical or something else?
B Maverick
Footballguy
Is mata still on the team?
Kidding but the fact he isnt getting regular games is a big deal imo
Falcao's work rate is good but his touch is letting him down, I think he is still overcoming injury for the most part
Not sure what happened to ADM after a good start. But he looks off in all directions.
Part of it is the constant shifting of people for injury, formation, LVG's will hasnt let anyone settle. Only recently have people getting a run of games with the same people lineup next to them. Hard to fit in when you dont know what the person next to you is going to do. Also for Falcao and ADM the physicality may be a little more then they are used to (but this is based on league rep and not watching them play before). And adjusting to LVG's "philosophy" seems to be an issue, but who knows really.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Tick tock
@SoccerByIves: I’m told players union is voting to on latest #MLSCBA offer, which must mean it was good enough to bring to members for a vote. #Progress
@SoccerByIves: I’m told players union is voting to on latest #MLSCBA offer, which must mean it was good enough to bring to members for a vote. #Progress
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
LolI thought it was just the Copa Del Rey today
ETA: That is Spanish for The Cup Del Rey, btw, you anglocentric ####s.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
@JSB_FOX: Looks like a deal has been agreed on #MLS
@JSB_FOX: Hearing from a player inside MLS negotiations that a deal has been agreed upon between MLS and players. Working on details.
@JSB_FOX: Hearing from a player inside MLS negotiations that a deal has been agreed upon between MLS and players. Working on details.
The Gator
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
And Nick for the win!!!
"Deal is done" says RSL keeper Nick Rimando
— Simon Evans (@sgevans) March 5, 2015
"Deal is done" says RSL keeper Nick Rimando
— Simon Evans (@sgevans) March 5, 2015
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I'm not sure I get this "intensity" argument on behalf of PL. From what I've seen of La Liga, those clubs hammer away -- at high speed -- at each other just as much as they do in England.
Having said that, I also can't explain why guys like DiMaria and Falcao have struggled in PL. It doesn't seem to be a universal problem; Luis Suarez certainly had his way with PL defenses. And Diego Costa appears to be relatively uncowed as well.
Having said that, I also can't explain why guys like DiMaria and Falcao have struggled in PL. It doesn't seem to be a universal problem; Luis Suarez certainly had his way with PL defenses. And Diego Costa appears to be relatively uncowed as well.
shader
Footballguy
I may be way off here, but my opinion is that a player succeeding is more a function of the system/position he's playing in than the league he is in, at least among the top 3-4 leagues.
Perhaps the LVG system just doesn't fit for those two players.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
@JerseyJBradley: Happy to hear about the #MLSCBA but I was clearing room on the #Stabaek bus for those who wanted to jump onboard
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I bet there are 20 coaches and 20 gm's who would disagree with you
The teams now have to scramble to figure what new wrinkles, roster sizes and MLS type rules are now in place in just two days
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Looks like the cap jump was very low. This must have been the trade off for what ever free agency the players got.
Follow[IMG]Ives GalarcepVerified account@SoccerByIves
So #MLSCBA deal is done. Hearing lots of players unhappy w/final deal. I'm told 7 teams voted against it (KC, RSL, RBNY, NYC, MON, FCD, COL)
Follow[IMG]Ives GalarcepVerified account@SoccerByIves
So #MLSCBA deal is done. Hearing lots of players unhappy w/final deal. I'm told 7 teams voted against it (KC, RSL, RBNY, NYC, MON, FCD, COL)
The Gator
Footballguy
One of the biggest things for a manager is man management. If you can't relate to a player or convey your point to them...your ideas are worthless. Rodgers may be young, but he has loads of man management ability. Hell, LVG can't even be bothered to leave his seat during games.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
A majority of seven teams voting against it seems like a lot.
It'll be interesting to see if the reason they're unhappy is the concessions are more along the lines of helping players as a group in the long run rather than increasing salaries today.
Is there any sort of pattern to the teams that voted against?
The Gator
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I don't understand. How are seven teams a majority? There are 20 teams in the league.
From the numbers that are coming out in twitter, I assume they are unhappy about the cap. It is much lower than anyone guessed but then again no one factored in free agency.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
No, it has not officially been signed and ratified yet. Numbers are leaking on twitter but nothing formal.
These are the rough numbers (just leaks, they might be inaccurate)
5 or 7 year deal (conflicting reports)
15% jump in cap first year, 5% ongoing
Some sort of free agency 28/8/13ish*
$60k min salary
No word yet on roster sizes, dp's etc. Hopefully by tomorrow the lawyers will have it all pretty and a formal press release will come out.
*here is wording on free agency after 28 and 8 years in league
Players who are making under $100,000 have a cap of a 125-percent increase of their salary, players making between $100-200,000 have a cap of 120-percent and players making more than $200,000 have a cap of 115-percent.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
If the partial leaked numbers are correct, I am thinking this is a big win for owners, loss for players and loss for fans.
The fans result could turn more positive if a tweak to the Double Penetration rule emerges but without that, MLS is destined to fall further behind the top 10-15 leagues in the world.
The fans result could turn more positive if a tweak to the Double Penetration rule emerges but without that, MLS is destined to fall further behind the top 10-15 leagues in the world.
