titusbramble
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If two of them didn't choke away group wins in the group stages, they probably don't, but with the stupid 24 team tournament it might have happened anyway
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If two of them didn't choke away group wins in the group stages, they probably don't, but with the stupid 24 team tournament it might have happened anyway
B Maverick
Footballguy
In case anyone cared:
Where to watch the FIFA World Cup 26™ schedule reveal
FIFA.com and FIFA+ will be streaming live as the match schedule for the FIFA World Cup 26™ is unveiled on Sunday, 4 February 2024.
The eagerly awaited details will be revealed during a special live programme, which will begin at 15:00 ET. Don't miss out as the Host City allocations for all 104 games – including the tournament’s opening matches in Canada, Mexico and the USA, the group-stage locations for each host country’s national team and the venue for the final – are confirmed in Miami.
Where to watch the FIFA World Cup 26™ schedule reveal
- The match schedule will be unveiled during a special live broadcast at 15:00 ET on Sunday, 4 February 2024
- The event will be streamed live on FIFA.com and FIFA+
- TSN, CTV and RDS in Canada, Televisa in Mexico, and FOX and Telemundo in the USA are among the broadcasters providing coverage
FIFA.com and FIFA+ will be streaming live as the match schedule for the FIFA World Cup 26™ is unveiled on Sunday, 4 February 2024.
The eagerly awaited details will be revealed during a special live programme, which will begin at 15:00 ET. Don't miss out as the Host City allocations for all 104 games – including the tournament’s opening matches in Canada, Mexico and the USA, the group-stage locations for each host country’s national team and the venue for the final – are confirmed in Miami.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
So many soccer threads - not sure where to post...
But I thought this was interesting - and pure AFCON:
AFCON 2021 QFs: Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, Burkina Faso, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Cameroon, Tunisia
AFCON 2023 QFs: Nigeria, DR Congo, Angola, South Africa, Mali, Cape Verde, Guinea, Ivory Coast
Every single nation replaced by another.
But I thought this was interesting - and pure AFCON:
AFCON 2021 QFs: Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, Burkina Faso, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Cameroon, Tunisia
AFCON 2023 QFs: Nigeria, DR Congo, Angola, South Africa, Mali, Cape Verde, Guinea, Ivory Coast
Every single nation replaced by another.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
South Korea's run in the Asian Cup has been fascinating.
Group Stage: Rescue a point in the 91st minute (on an own goal)
Group Stage: Lose 2 points when giving up a goal in the 105th minute
Round of 16: Tie game in 99th minute and then win on pk's
Quarterfinal: Tie game in 96th minute to send to ET. Win game in ET
Klinsmann went from a pubic hair away from being fired, to now having a chance to win the tournament...
Group Stage: Rescue a point in the 91st minute (on an own goal)
Group Stage: Lose 2 points when giving up a goal in the 105th minute
Round of 16: Tie game in 99th minute and then win on pk's
Quarterfinal: Tie game in 96th minute to send to ET. Win game in ET
Klinsmann went from a pubic hair away from being fired, to now having a chance to win the tournament...
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
Who's gonna plan out the epic RV road trip to hit as many group stage matches as possible? I would think the KC and Texas sites might be the best grouping. Then add Monterrey or Atlanta as next closest?
titusbramble
Footballguy
Someone with a boatload of money I guess
massraider
Footballguy
KC to Dallas to Houston to Monterrey, I think?
Vancouver--Seattle--San Fran--LA is probably more attractive to me.
I have been discussing the East coast with my friends, because we are a few hours from Boston/NYC/PHI, so we are planning to hit probably all those cities. We are right in the NY/NJ/PHI area, and we love going to Boston, so unless all the games there suck, we will go to Boston (and then drive the freaking 30 miles to the "Boston" stadium).
Jaysus
Good times!
I watched that one. Son willed them to win in extra time.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I have no idea what this is about, but I love it.
Eephus
Footballguy
Cote d'Ivoire's run to the AFCON semis has been just as unbelievable
Groups: Advanced as a third place finisher in spite of losing their last group game 4-0 and immediately sacking their manager. They only went through because Ghana allowed a 94th minute equalizer in their match.
Round of 16: They equalized in the 86th minute before beating Senegal on penalties
Quarters: Playing with ten men from the 43rd minute on, the Elephants got a 90th minute equalizer before winning it in the 122nd.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
As much fun as we all made of him he had a good career and one most players would be jealous of.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think we're just all more conditioned to something being ludicrous in the AFCON.
El Floppo
Footballguy
@B Maverick is the new #1FCSeoulFan.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Although them winning really does keep Jurgen from being available for our Sunday league fixtures.....
B Maverick
Footballguy
Happy Birthday to: Cr7, Neymar, Tevez, Hagi, Jauzaj, Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Stefan de Vrij, Jesper Blomqvist, B Maverick, Sven-Göran Eriksson, Billy Sharp, Paul Arriola,
El Floppo
Footballguy
I was talking about their new transfer
El Floppo
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
was still thinking about the national team ha!
Between
retiring and this signing its quite a day!
B Maverick
Footballguy
Now Lisandro Martinez is out 8 weeks, sprained knee. Better than what they feared but still. Just got him back and the defense is so much better with him.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
as a self described goal whore, I likey!!
www.premierleague.com
History made with the highest-scoring Matchweek EVER
City's 3-1 win against Brentford puts Matchweek 23's tally to 45 goals, a record for a round of 10 Premier League matches
www.premierleague.com
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The only game I've seen start to finish all year in Serie A was Inter v Milan and... yes, this. Inter was very obviously better. And that's the story GD is telling too.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
87th ranked Jordan has made the Asian Cup final after beating South Korea 2-0 in the semi's today.
SK registered 0 shots on goal today.
After an incredibly rocky road to even get to the semi's, I am interested to see if SK sack Klinsmann or not.
SK registered 0 shots on goal today.
After an incredibly rocky road to even get to the semi's, I am interested to see if SK sack Klinsmann or not.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
He is smiling like crazy after the game. I wonder if he knows he is gone....
This is in stark contrast to Son crying.....
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The NFLPA is looking to leverage the World Cup in 2026 to force the owners to go grass for the NFL
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NFLPA says 92% of players want grass over turf
A vast majority of players in the union want to play on natural grass fields, NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell said Tuesday.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Good chant from Newport County AFC https://www.instagram.com/epl.chants/reel/C2MTT2rNgqI/
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
B Maverick
Footballguy
I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next seasonwww.skysports.com
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
B Maverick
Footballguy
What would be an acceptable time to play a man down in this scenario?I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
Refs often say they don't want to change the game by showing a red. So now they have an out. Does this mean we see more blue than red cards?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
What would be an acceptable time to play a man down in this scenario?I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
Refs often say they don't want to change the game by showing a red. So now they have an out. Does this mean we see more blue than red cards?
I’m all for a blue card although I imagine it will cause a lot of controversy. I hate how much red cards impact a game.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
While I am all for doing anything that helps alleviate dissent in the game, I have a bad feeling this will result in slightly lower scoring.What would be an acceptable time to play a man down in this scenario?I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
Refs often say they don't want to change the game by showing a red. So now they have an out. Does this mean we see more blue than red cards?
I fear that teams that get a blue (especially in first half) are probably just going to bunker for the ten minutes. This is not hockey in where a man advantage can be used to score much easier in. We have seen countless times where teams down to ten bunker and it takes forever to break through.
My fear is that a blue card will simply mean 10 less minutes of open soccer.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
Not only the yellow/blue distinction, but I expect the blue/red will also come into play. Rugby has had the sin bin (also 10 minutes) attached to a yellow card for years and it works well. Of course its a totally different game with 15 per side rather than 11, so I'm not saying the two are directly comparable, but it does seem to me that introducing a third card is dumb. Its especially confusing to think how this will interact with VAR. For example, we know that VAR has dramatically changed the way offside is called in real time. Will officials now give a blue when a red would normally be warranted out of lack of courage, punting it to the VAR to decide? There are so many potential pitfalls and unintended consequences to this.
B Maverick
Footballguy
This is where I am at too. I hate that offside is not held to the clear and obvious standard and that VAR uses still images to influence and often doesn't show the full play for context.I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
Not only the yellow/blue distinction, but I expect the blue/red will also come into play. Rugby has had the sin bin (also 10 minutes) attached to a yellow card for years and it works well. Of course its a totally different game with 15 per side rather than 11, so I'm not saying the two are directly comparable, but it does seem to me that introducing a third card is dumb. Its especially confusing to think how this will interact with VAR. For example, we know that VAR has dramatically changed the way offside is called in real time. Will officials now give a blue when a red would normally be warranted out of lack of courage, punting it to the VAR to decide? There are so many potential pitfalls and unintended consequences to this.
And 10 mins is a long time in the game.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Dissent or cynical fouls. That's what it says right.
Diogo Dalot gets booked twice in 5 seconds for being upset at a bad call vs Liverpool in the 87'. Most pundits agreed the 2nd yellow was a poor call. So instead of the first yellow he gets a blue and has to sit for 10 mins. So what's the difference here? A wrong blue that should be a single yellow?
Declan Rice stops a counter with a foul that commentators and pundits call "Professional Fouls" or "Cynical Fouls". So instead of a yellow he gets a blue and sits for 10 against City in a title race. He's not sent off!
Diogo Dalot gets booked twice in 5 seconds for being upset at a bad call vs Liverpool in the 87'. Most pundits agreed the 2nd yellow was a poor call. So instead of the first yellow he gets a blue and has to sit for 10 mins. So what's the difference here? A wrong blue that should be a single yellow?
Declan Rice stops a counter with a foul that commentators and pundits call "Professional Fouls" or "Cynical Fouls". So instead of a yellow he gets a blue and sits for 10 against City in a title race. He's not sent off!
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This is where I am at too. I hate that offside is not held to the clear and obvious standard and that VAR uses still images to influence and often doesn't show the full play for context.I've been wanting to see something like this for a while attached to yellow cards. 10 mins seems excessive, but also an incentive to abstain from certain behavior and fouls.I am not sure how I feel about this. The refs and VAR already get so much wrong in regard to yellow and red cards already. Refs already don't want to change a game by sending someone off, now they are going to change the game for 10 mins instead? Perhaps that is better than a red for marginally red fouls. Just not sure this is needed.Blue cards in football? Lawmakers set to introduce trials for 10-minute sin bins
IFAB set to introduce blue cards for football sin bins; referees will have the power to send players off for 10 minutes for dissent or cynical fouls; the FA will consider trialling sin bins in the FA Cup and Womens FA Cup next season
This and some of the other possible changes are really going to change the game completely, and I am not sure most are for the better.
Don't know that I like the idea of the ref having to make further judgement in terms of yellow AND/or blue.
Not only the yellow/blue distinction, but I expect the blue/red will also come into play. Rugby has had the sin bin (also 10 minutes) attached to a yellow card for years and it works well. Of course its a totally different game with 15 per side rather than 11, so I'm not saying the two are directly comparable, but it does seem to me that introducing a third card is dumb. Its especially confusing to think how this will interact with VAR. For example, we know that VAR has dramatically changed the way offside is called in real time. Will officials now give a blue when a red would normally be warranted out of lack of courage, punting it to the VAR to decide? There are so many potential pitfalls and unintended consequences to this.
And 10 mins is a long time in the game.
You can say 10 min is a long time for a Blue card that maybe should have been a yellow, but its potentially a good compromise on a soft red, espeically early in the game where the ref is afraid of ruining the whole game on a close call. I see some benefit there. I don't hate the concept of a 10 minute sin bin, but I think it would be better to make that the punishment for a yellow rather than adding a third card. A second yellow would still mean red. A "professional foul" becomes much more difficult math.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
FIFA Media
@fifamedia
FIFA wishes to clarify that reports of the so-called 'blue card' at elite levels of football are incorrect and premature. Any such trials, if implemented, should be limited to testing in a responsible manner at lower levels, a position that FIFA intends to reiterate when this agenda item is discussed at the IFAB AGM on 2 March
@fifamedia
FIFA wishes to clarify that reports of the so-called 'blue card' at elite levels of football are incorrect and premature. Any such trials, if implemented, should be limited to testing in a responsible manner at lower levels, a position that FIFA intends to reiterate when this agenda item is discussed at the IFAB AGM on 2 March
B Maverick
Footballguy
Makes sense. I knew they were trialing other changes at lower levels and hadn't heard they added this. But it's FIFA so you never know what's going on.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Sin bins for dissent are already being trialled at various levels of non league here
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
yeah, having the "you want to play with Messi?" card seems almost unfair. For those that recognize the name, this is Fernando's son.
Fernando was a player for Real Madrid and the Argentine National team
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Fernando was a player for Real Madrid and the Argentine National team
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Inter Miami has very advanced negotiations to buy the transfer of Federico Redondo, midfielder for the Argentine Under 23 National Team and Argentinos Juniors. The team prepares a proposal of US$8,000,000, a figure that #AAAJ is willing to accept
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
The Athletic | Football
@TheAthleticFC
The proposed announcement of a trial for ‘blue cards’ and sin bins in professional football has been delayed.The International Football Association Board (IFAB) were set to publish the detailed protocols on Friday as part of the attempts from the game to clamp down on abuse towards match officials and cynical fouls.However, following some pushback from stakeholders in the game — including FIFA — the decision has been made that further exchanges are needed.The trial for sin bins, where blue cards are part of the protocol, as well as the other three trials to improve participant behaviour — a captain-only zone, cooling-off periods and punishment for goalkeeper timewasting — which were all agreed in November, remain approved.The issue will now be discussed further at the annual general meeting in Loch Lomond, Scotland next month
@TheAthleticFC
The proposed announcement of a trial for ‘blue cards’ and sin bins in professional football has been delayed.The International Football Association Board (IFAB) were set to publish the detailed protocols on Friday as part of the attempts from the game to clamp down on abuse towards match officials and cynical fouls.However, following some pushback from stakeholders in the game — including FIFA — the decision has been made that further exchanges are needed.The trial for sin bins, where blue cards are part of the protocol, as well as the other three trials to improve participant behaviour — a captain-only zone, cooling-off periods and punishment for goalkeeper timewasting — which were all agreed in November, remain approved.The issue will now be discussed further at the annual general meeting in Loch Lomond, Scotland next month
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It always feels like there is a huge game in February in the Bundesliga where you wonder if this is the year some one can get past Bayern Munich.
Usually it is Dortmund who face plants in these specific games.
But tomorrow, we have Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen in Leverkusen.
Leverkusen is still undefeated on season but only has a 2 point lead on Bayern.
This game may have a big say on who wins in Germany this year.
Usually it is Dortmund who face plants in these specific games.
But tomorrow, we have Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen in Leverkusen.
Leverkusen is still undefeated on season but only has a 2 point lead on Bayern.
This game may have a big say on who wins in Germany this year.
B Maverick
Footballguy
I'm all for reducing the abuse the refs take. I think players should be fined or banned for surrounding the ref. Enforce the captains only mantra. I think I mentioned it once before when a ref was surrounded and all he did was take out his red card. It stopped. He didn't show it to anyone, but everyone stopped. (ref's also need a thicker skin at times).
I am esp all for cutting down the goalkeeper time wasting. Stop letting them hold the ball more than 6-10 seconds. Stop letting them catch a ball and then going to ground for absolutely no reason except to waste time. Extend the 6-10 sec rule to goal kicks. And throw ins too while at it (Not a GK issue, just an issue).
I've said it before, I think first they should enforce the rules already on the books. Not sure adding the sin bin or blue cards helps.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It is so true about the time wasting, we don't need new rules.
you can see NBA refs actively counting for time infractions. The second a keeper has control of the ball, a ref should immediately start actively counting to 6, with an indirect free kick being given where the keeper is if he does not release the ball from his hands before the time is up.
it would take absolutely no time for keepers and players to get used to this. It would increase the time soccer is being played and significantly improve the variations from ref to ref. Every ref from the EPL down to youth soccer can do this with out need for technology or anything expensive.
There is too much in the game that is left up to the refs discretion. Time wasting should not be discretionary. The keeper either holds it too long or not.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Amen brother, A Fricken Men
encaitar
Footballguy
I'd be very happy to see a new type of "card" handed out for surrounding the ref. Make it an after game punishment. I hate seeing a game changed because guys reacted to a call in the wrong way, but I'd love to have the governing body hand out "cards" or something for every time you argue with, or run up on the ref in a game. This happens 5 times accumulative... automatic 3 game suspension. I think we'd see captains only pretty quickly.
