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CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
trying to figure out the new site but he was -2/10 in the offsee scale
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I think they did the same effects with Aaron Paul's face as they did De Niro in "The Irishman".
Capella
Footballguy
They didn’t show it but I assume Saul called him and told him to create a distraction.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
He panicked. They showed his hand shaking when he was just sitting there with the cops behind him, so he was already nervous as heck, and when he pulled away, panic set in and boom.
Galileo
Footballguy
At first I thought it might be intentional to provide Gene with a chance to get out of the house, but I don't think Jeff is that calculating, nor would he have needed to crash to draw the attention of the cops. I'm on board with Ghost Rider.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Jimmy/Saul/Gene had plenty of opportunities to get away but he is incapable.
For some reason I don't think he dies and likely ends up in prison again like Slipping Jimmy but it would be kind of cool if he goes nuts and ends up in a mental institution, his ultimate con.
top dog
Footballguy
He could have just went out the back door. No need to cause a distraction.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
You're welcome.
I didn't love last night. I am now really in the camp that we needed another episode or scenes in between when Kim left and the BB timeline. That big time jump left a lot out regarding the transformation. Jimmy didn't want to do the Howard con -- that was all Kim. He tried to veer them off of that road several times, but she wanted to do it. Now all of a sudden her leaving causes him to go completely off the tracks? And she apparently was in New Mexico up until the divorce papers -- and he had already "broke bad" at that point despite it being just before the BB timeline. The whole show was about his transformation, and they missed something IMO.
Skipdog77
Footballguy
Loved last night's episode. I think Jimmy ends up in prison. Would be a nice bookend to Chuck getting him off from the Chicago sunroof, and showing how he had so many chances to make something of himself, but ended up ultimately back in jail due to bad decisions.
Walt dead, Jimmy in jail, Jesse in Alaska, and an automated parking lot tollbooth feels like a good way to end the franchise for me.
Walt dead, Jimmy in jail, Jesse in Alaska, and an automated parking lot tollbooth feels like a good way to end the franchise for me.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
admittedly I had a little bit of trouble keeping up with the timelines in the latest episode. Wasn't there a scene where Kim is at the airport in Alaska in the Gene timeline? i was hoping u'd all be discussing it here but i guess it didn't happen. will rewatch tonight.
good or just normal people becoming bad people for the "right" reasons. Walt & Jesse in BB, Jimmy & Kim in BCS, seems like the story is progressing exactly how it was meant to. Jesse and Kim get a new lease on life, Walt and Jimmy got left in the dust. Jimmy has to die to fit this narrative i think.
good or just normal people becoming bad people for the "right" reasons. Walt & Jesse in BB, Jimmy & Kim in BCS, seems like the story is progressing exactly how it was meant to. Jesse and Kim get a new lease on life, Walt and Jimmy got left in the dust. Jimmy has to die to fit this narrative i think.
jesse getting a smoke with kim? head explode, nativity sceneso good
I haven't really thought this out, so maybe I'm completely off. When Kim broke it off with Jimmy, she said they were "poison" for each other. Jimmy was Kim's drug, so she quit. They got divorced. She moved to Florida. She went straight. When she flew back to New Mexico, she admitted her crimes and tried to make amends with Howard's wife, akin to completing her 12 steps. Thus, she has some parallels to Jesse. When they're both smoking outside Saul's office, I believe that, in the BB timeline, it was right at the beginning -- Walt went on the ridealong with Hank to the stakeout, where Emilio and Krazy-8 were caught cooking, and Walt witnessed Jesse climbing out of the window and escaping (thus Emilio needing a lawyer). Jesse was just about to start down his path with Walt. Kim was ending hers with Saul, having signed the divorce papers. Saul was like meth to Kim.
However, even though Saul was poison for Kim, I think Kim actually kept Saul with a semblance of morality. Jimmy was always Saul. Kim kept him from going full Saul. I think the irony here is that, if Saul/Gene had never called Kim, she never would have felt the need to go to New Mexico, which now seems to be the catalyst for wherever Saul ends up -- jail, dead or otherwise.
krista4
Footballguy
She was at ABQ airport, but there was an Alaska airlines logo (along with Frontier and maybe others) in the area where she was waiting to get on the rental car bus.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I thought that was in ABQ. There was an Alaska Airlines sign in the background.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
rhea seehorm is amazing. overall the story has seemed a bit forced to me, over the last few episodes.
they definitely made jesse look better in this scene. he looked old and a bit portly in the rv scene.
they definitely made jesse look better in this scene. he looked old and a bit portly in the rv scene.
Scoresman
Footballguy
It sounded like "He was when I knew him" but I'm not 100% sure.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
"when I knew him, he was"
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Kim comes clean to Howard's widow but in a small way still protects Jimmy/Saul. The widow asks why she wouldn't be charged and Kim says only her ex-husband can corroborate "assuming he's still alive". She just talked to the guy. She knows he's stil alive. There must still be a flicker of love there.
Also, in the trailer for next week we see Saul/Gene's car in a ditch. I think if we put that trailer together along with the casting of a certain guest star who turned Saul in we can confirm that Jimmy will die in a fiery car accident and a UFO will in some way be involved. Car - Roll - Burn - ET. That Vince Gilligan really is something.
Also, in the trailer for next week we see Saul/Gene's car in a ditch. I think if we put that trailer together along with the casting of a certain guest star who turned Saul in we can confirm that Jimmy will die in a fiery car accident and a UFO will in some way be involved. Car - Roll - Burn - ET. That Vince Gilligan really is something.
Runkle
Footballguy
Theory I read online is that every season is 10 episodes. Therefore this season "ended" with the mall heist episode "Nippy".
But Gene/Saul/Jimmy couldn't leave well enough alone. His tragic flaw, perhaps. Had to push it a little farther. These following 4 episodes are his final aftermath.
ZADO
Footballguy
Kims scene of breaking down was emmy award stuff...powerful.
That was the 2nd of 2 takes they did and it was filmed on a real bus driving around the terminal with real passengers on board going to wherever . They had 4 cameras set up on the bus . The hand that touched her in empathy was a friend of hers that was next to her (real life) , at least thats what i heard on the show ''Talking Saul'' .
The director was asked what should they do to prepare for the finale and he said ''wear some depends''
That was the 2nd of 2 takes they did and it was filmed on a real bus driving around the terminal with real passengers on board going to wherever . They had 4 cameras set up on the bus . The hand that touched her in empathy was a friend of hers that was next to her (real life) , at least thats what i heard on the show ''Talking Saul'' .
The director was asked what should they do to prepare for the finale and he said ''wear some depends''
offdee
Footballguy
When Gene grabbed the phone cord as if he was thinking about strangling gramma….my internal voice was excitedly saying “Finally! Some real action and bloodshed”. After all the Nacho and Lalo violence I’m yearning for more excitement like that. I get the slow burn setup, but I’m over it at this point.
offdee
Footballguy
Did she have to gain some weight for the black and white scenes? A jar of Miracle Whip per day diet perhaps? Arms looked chunkier than usual.
Galileo
Footballguy
Jimmy/Saul/Gene was close to killing 2 people in this episode, but he isn't a killer.
offdee
Footballguy
I think he was just gonna knock the sleeping guy out with the ceramic pot. Not kill him.
rick6668
Footballguy
Possibly, but a hit in the back of the head hard enough to knock him out could kill him.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Plus, we had already seen how Jeff panics when he slipped and fell in the mall heist. That guy doesn't do well under pressure.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Not so sure. I think jail works as well but we'll see next week!
krista4
Footballguy
That’s a really good point.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Pretty cool for my wife and I to see Kim pulling into work at “Palm Coast Sprinkler.” The left turn under the overpass she makes is into the marina area in Cocoa Beach, Florida. My parents own on a condo in the area and we were married there.
Guess I’ll have to go check out that Outback in satellite beach some day.
Guess I’ll have to go check out that Outback in satellite beach some day.
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Finally got around to watching the last two episodes.
I think Saul wants to get caught. The guilt of everything he's done and most importantly what it did to KIm is killing him. He can't come clean like Kim to save face as well as to spare her of any further guilt for him taking the fall.
I thought it was really interesting too what he ended up stealing when he went back. Three, very expensive watches. If one was looking for symbolism I think you could even describe them as "precious time". Time that Saul himself is going to have taken from him.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I felt horrible for the kind of hell of a life she was leading. The conversation amongst the women at the BBQ, the office birthday.....oh God....most of us have probably witnessed it, Truly cringe worthy.
Of course the worst of it is what Kim has to endure when it comes to love making. I get you Kim. You need spice, variety. You want to do it as we hang from our ankles dangling over the Grand Canyon while I hold a loaded Glock to your head.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Yeah, he thought the cops waiting there had something to do with him, even though they were just stopping to eat their fish tacos. If he had just driven away without crashing, they most likely wouldn't have even noticed him.
The bigger irony was that he still probably wouldn't have gotten into trouble except Cancer Guy happened to wander out while the police were questioning him, which is what caused them to arrest Jeff for the robbery.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Or does it turn out that the show wasn't about that after all? Maybe Chuck was right all along. And maybe the show is about Kim's redemption. Maybe a show where the moral of the story is that the story has a moral is, well, countercultural.
You might consider the ending of the series as being Episode 9 and these final 4 episodes an epilogue, and I couldn't argue with that. But since the entire series started with the Gene timeline, I prefer to consider these episodes as more of a denouement. Maybe it was always about bad things ultimately happening to people who make bad decisions*, and maybe Kim's story arc was the happy coincidence that ties it all together and gives a flip side to the coin - that there can be redemption. Parallel theme to Walt-Jesse in BB really, but maybe a little closer to home somehow. I mean, most of us don't have RV's with meth labs in them, and most of us don't frame reputable lawyers as drug addicts for spite, but it especially this week's episode really drove home for me that BCS just seems a little less far fetched somehow, Maybe because I find Kim the easiest to identify with. I guess on a continuum of cartoon character to the real world, Kim is probably closest to my end of the spectrum (compared to the meth cooking high school teacher turned criminal mastermind).
*Putting MY personal perspective/morality on things, I'd even go so far as to say that Jimmy's evil decisions have landed him in a hell of his own creation. Kim was there with him ("I love you too, but so what") and is now doing exactly what Saul told her to do in that phone call - put on the hair shirt and do her penance: all part of her journey of redemption perhaps (there's still one more episode to go, after all).
Runkle
Footballguy
Per Vince Gilligan, the next episode is the last bit of storytelling in the Breaking Bad universe.
Gilligan's future projects will not be canonically related to BB/BCS (at least directly)
Gilligan's future projects will not be canonically related to BB/BCS (at least directly)
Skipdog77
Footballguy
They said on the Better Call Saul Insider podcast that all of the "Florida" scenes were actually shot in Albuquerque (Kim pulling into Palm Coast Sprinklers, her house, etc.) They then used visual effects for the backgrounds, etc.
Galileo
Footballguy
A few "How to..." PSAs from some of our favorite Better Call Saul characters...
How to make a taco - Lalo
How to tie a tie- Saul
How to make a pimento cheese sandwich - Mike
How to spot a counterfeit bill - Nacho
How to make a taco - Lalo
How to tie a tie- Saul
How to make a pimento cheese sandwich - Mike
How to spot a counterfeit bill - Nacho
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Interesting. I’ll have to watch it again, but we were pretty sure. The name of the road was the same. And their backyard BBQ looked like it was on the Banana River with docks/boats in the background.
Skipdog77
Footballguy
Yeah, they said for the backyard there was a concrete wall, so they draped it in green and then added the canal/river and the boats and stuff via VFX.
Wouldn't put it past this team to make sure the details exactly matched the area they were trying to emulate, in fact I actually wouldn't expect anything else.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
A big reason for why Jonathan Banks was cast in Breaking Bad was his role on a TV show called Wiseguy, a show Gilligan watched in his dorm room while studying at NYU in the late 80's.
I don't know where a storyline about a 75 year-old retired FBI agent could go, but if Gilligan and Banks were involved I would immediately set the DVR.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
On BCS’s instagram, they posted “you haven’t seen the last of kim just yet”
