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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (4 Viewers)

Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
I don't think there is any realistic question o the show that Jimmy might not be a lawyer, particularly not on Breaking bad. Any lawyer who advertises as much and aggress as Saul does would certainly come to the attention of the State Bar. They would absolutely be aware of his credentials. As Saul, well he is in the courts daily. It would be very unlikely that nobody has checked his credentials.

That said, many years ago I worked in an office that hired an "attorney" He had an impressive resume. He was haughty, bombastic, and tried to be authoritative. From time to time, however, he would say things that no lawyer would ever say. I became suspicious. I checked his bona fides. He had not graduated from the law school on his resume, though he did attend for a year and a half. He had not passed the bar in his home state, and had never sat for the one in the state in which he was then practicing. He was hoping, I guess, to brazen his way through. he was looking for an Administrative job with the office, and was trying to completely eliminate acting as an attorney. Still, we had the bad situation where he had appeared as an attorney in Court. The was much embarrassment for the office, and much answering to the Courts over this. I was glad then that I was just a foot soldier and not a general as the finger pointing was rampant over having not checked his resume.

I suppose it is possible that a scammer could attempt to brazen his way by, but in this day and age of internet search engines you better be pretty much what you claim. Now the show taking place in 2004, or a touch earlier, the net is maybe not quite so ubiquitous, but I just can't see Jimmy not being a lawyer. Not a well-credentialed one sure, but not a lawyer at all, nope.

I do note that the City which currently employs me had a person in senior administration in 2006 whose credentials did not hold up. At that time our City instituted a policy of having background checks done on all applicants moving forward, as well as a recheck on all executive level employees, including all legal staff.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.
That's California.

In New Mexico, like pretty much every other state, you can't get a law license or even sit for the bar without having graduated from an ABA accredited school.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
You see we are combining with William Mitchell?
I don't keep up much with news from the Alma Mater. Really, Billy Mitchell and Hambone becoming one? Billy bone? Ham Billy?

 
That's California.


In New Mexico, like pretty much every other state, you can't get a law license or even sit for the bar without having graduated from an ABA accredited school.
Nice, genuinely glad for this and DW's insight because I'm shuked on lawyer stuff and couldn't get over this thought that Saul conned his way into his license. Putting that idea to bed.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
I don't think there is any realistic question o the show that Jimmy might not be a lawyer, particularly not on Breaking bad. Any lawyer who advertises as much and aggress as Saul does would certainly come to the attention of the State Bar. They would absolutely be aware of his credentials. As Saul, well he is in the courts daily. It would be very unlikely that nobody has checked his credentials.

That said, many years ago I worked in an office that hired an "attorney" He had an impressive resume. He was haughty, bombastic, and tried to be authoritative. From time to time, however, he would say things that no lawyer would ever say. I became suspicious. I checked his bona fides. He had not graduated from the law school on his resume, though he did attend for a year and a half. He had not passed the bar in his home state, and had never sat for the one in the state in which he was then practicing. He was hoping, I guess, to brazen his way through. he was looking for an Administrative job with the office, and was trying to completely eliminate acting as an attorney. Still, we had the bad situation where he had appeared as an attorney in Court. The was much embarrassment for the office, and much answering to the Courts over this. I was glad then that I was just a foot soldier and not a general as the finger pointing was rampant over having not checked his resume.

I suppose it is possible that a scammer could attempt to brazen his way by, but in this day and age of internet search engines you better be pretty much what you claim. Now the show taking place in 2004, or a touch earlier, the net is maybe not quite so ubiquitous, but I just can't see Jimmy not being a lawyer. Not a well-credentialed one sure, but not a lawyer at all, nope.

I do note that the City which currently employs me had a person in senior administration in 2006 whose credentials did not hold up. At that time our City instituted a policy of having background checks done on all applicants moving forward, as well as a recheck on all executive level employees, including all legal staff.
There's a guy currently sitting in an Arizona State prison that committed, amongst other things, fraud by holding himself out as a lawyer, getting hired, then filing pleadings for people. Even duped the dubious Sheriff Joe on some issue. He got caught pretty quickly though on the attorney stuff (could talk a big game, but screwed up the pleadings and missed deadlines and such) and I think that's ultimately what brought him down. Was pretty impressive overall.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.
Different decades. Far less likely now, but who can say what liberties writers might take. The premise just never occurred to me. Jimmy/Saul is a bit of a rogue, but wholly un-credentialed, I just never got that vibe. hanging on by a thread, yes, but wholly un-credentialed, no, but then I have missed signs before.

 
His brother appears to be a highly successful lawyer, so no way Jimmy faked his way in there without his brother calling him out on that.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
I don't think there is any realistic question o the show that Jimmy might not be a lawyer, particularly not on Breaking bad. Any lawyer who advertises as much and aggress as Saul does would certainly come to the attention of the State Bar. They would absolutely be aware of his credentials. As Saul, well he is in the courts daily. It would be very unlikely that nobody has checked his credentials.

That said, many years ago I worked in an office that hired an "attorney" He had an impressive resume. He was haughty, bombastic, and tried to be authoritative. From time to time, however, he would say things that no lawyer would ever say. I became suspicious. I checked his bona fides. He had not graduated from the law school on his resume, though he did attend for a year and a half. He had not passed the bar in his home state, and had never sat for the one in the state in which he was then practicing. He was hoping, I guess, to brazen his way through. he was looking for an Administrative job with the office, and was trying to completely eliminate acting as an attorney. Still, we had the bad situation where he had appeared as an attorney in Court. The was much embarrassment for the office, and much answering to the Courts over this. I was glad then that I was just a foot soldier and not a general as the finger pointing was rampant over having not checked his resume.

I suppose it is possible that a scammer could attempt to brazen his way by, but in this day and age of internet search engines you better be pretty much what you claim. Now the show taking place in 2004, or a touch earlier, the net is maybe not quite so ubiquitous, but I just can't see Jimmy not being a lawyer. Not a well-credentialed one sure, but not a lawyer at all, nope.

I do note that the City which currently employs me had a person in senior administration in 2006 whose credentials did not hold up. At that time our City instituted a policy of having background checks done on all applicants moving forward, as well as a recheck on all executive level employees, including all legal staff.
There's a guy currently sitting in an Arizona State prison that committed, amongst other things, fraud by holding himself out as a lawyer, getting hired, then filing pleadings for people. Even duped the dubious Sheriff Joe on some issue. He got caught pretty quickly though on the attorney stuff (could talk a big game, but screwed up the pleadings and missed deadlines and such) and I think that's ultimately what brought him down. Was pretty impressive overall.
When I came out to Colorado it was still possible, then, to sit for the State Bar exam if one were "learned in the law" which was then interpreted as having worked in a law office as a paralegal under a licensed attorney, or having been a magistrate which then did not require a legal education or bar accreditation. I doubt any of those are still true.

I do know that New Mexico has some fairly tight rules on reciprocity. A few decades back they finally got their own accredited law school and they then more or less stopped allowing folks from other states to waive into their jurisdiction. Prior to getting that school they were wide open, as they had to be to attract attorneys to their state. by the generation BCS is taking place in New Mexico had pretty tight regs.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
You see we are combining with William Mitchell?
I don't keep up much with news from the Alma Mater. Really, Billy Mitchell and Hambone becoming one? Billy bone? Ham Billy?
I'm partial to "#### you, St. Thomas".

I don't keep up with the school too much because I'm still bitter about the bait and switch they pulled with their scholarship program, but I have plenty of former classmates who were actively discussing it on Facebook. It appears the move was inevitable based on: 1) St. Thomas coming in with its huge endowment and pretty quickly surpassing Hamline and Mitchell in desirably (frankly, I was one year too late to them "buying students" and would have gone there if they had offered a big scholarship); 2) This causing both Mitchell and Hamline to drop into Tier 4; and 3) the complete saturation of lawyers in Minnesota and just the complete inability for the market to sustain incoming lawyers from four law schools. I can attest to the third point because, despite getting a bunch of Minnesota offers, all of them required waiting out some hiring freeze - which turned out to be the best thing for me because instead of slaving away at a lower paying PDO job in the cold it prompted me to explore an unsaturated area where I could make FBG money by my late 20s and play golf every weekend.

 
His brother appears to be a highly successful lawyer, so no way Jimmy faked his way in there without his brother calling him out on that.
This too. Plus no way legitimately licensed lawyers (like blonde lady) would be anywhere near to taking him seriously.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
I don't think there is any realistic question o the show that Jimmy might not be a lawyer, particularly not on Breaking bad. Any lawyer who advertises as much and aggress as Saul does would certainly come to the attention of the State Bar. They would absolutely be aware of his credentials. As Saul, well he is in the courts daily. It would be very unlikely that nobody has checked his credentials.

That said, many years ago I worked in an office that hired an "attorney" He had an impressive resume. He was haughty, bombastic, and tried to be authoritative. From time to time, however, he would say things that no lawyer would ever say. I became suspicious. I checked his bona fides. He had not graduated from the law school on his resume, though he did attend for a year and a half. He had not passed the bar in his home state, and had never sat for the one in the state in which he was then practicing. He was hoping, I guess, to brazen his way through. he was looking for an Administrative job with the office, and was trying to completely eliminate acting as an attorney. Still, we had the bad situation where he had appeared as an attorney in Court. The was much embarrassment for the office, and much answering to the Courts over this. I was glad then that I was just a foot soldier and not a general as the finger pointing was rampant over having not checked his resume.

I suppose it is possible that a scammer could attempt to brazen his way by, but in this day and age of internet search engines you better be pretty much what you claim. Now the show taking place in 2004, or a touch earlier, the net is maybe not quite so ubiquitous, but I just can't see Jimmy not being a lawyer. Not a well-credentialed one sure, but not a lawyer at all, nope.

I do note that the City which currently employs me had a person in senior administration in 2006 whose credentials did not hold up. At that time our City instituted a policy of having background checks done on all applicants moving forward, as well as a recheck on all executive level employees, including all legal staff.
There's a guy currently sitting in an Arizona State prison that committed, amongst other things, fraud by holding himself out as a lawyer, getting hired, then filing pleadings for people. Even duped the dubious Sheriff Joe on some issue. He got caught pretty quickly though on the attorney stuff (could talk a big game, but screwed up the pleadings and missed deadlines and such) and I think that's ultimately what brought him down. Was pretty impressive overall.
When I came out to Colorado it was still possible, then, to sit for the State Bar exam if one were "learned in the law" which was then interpreted as having worked in a law office as a paralegal under a licensed attorney, or having been a magistrate which then did not require a legal education or bar accreditation. I doubt any of those are still true.

I do know that New Mexico has some fairly tight rules on reciprocity. A few decades back they finally got their own accredited law school and they then more or less stopped allowing folks from other states to waive into their jurisdiction. Prior to getting that school they were wide open, as they had to be to attract attorneys to their state. by the generation BCS is taking place in New Mexico had pretty tight regs.
Man you're old. :P

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
I don't think there is any realistic question o the show that Jimmy might not be a lawyer, particularly not on Breaking bad. Any lawyer who advertises as much and aggress as Saul does would certainly come to the attention of the State Bar. They would absolutely be aware of his credentials. As Saul, well he is in the courts daily. It would be very unlikely that nobody has checked his credentials.

That said, many years ago I worked in an office that hired an "attorney" He had an impressive resume. He was haughty, bombastic, and tried to be authoritative. From time to time, however, he would say things that no lawyer would ever say. I became suspicious. I checked his bona fides. He had not graduated from the law school on his resume, though he did attend for a year and a half. He had not passed the bar in his home state, and had never sat for the one in the state in which he was then practicing. He was hoping, I guess, to brazen his way through. he was looking for an Administrative job with the office, and was trying to completely eliminate acting as an attorney. Still, we had the bad situation where he had appeared as an attorney in Court. The was much embarrassment for the office, and much answering to the Courts over this. I was glad then that I was just a foot soldier and not a general as the finger pointing was rampant over having not checked his resume.

I suppose it is possible that a scammer could attempt to brazen his way by, but in this day and age of internet search engines you better be pretty much what you claim. Now the show taking place in 2004, or a touch earlier, the net is maybe not quite so ubiquitous, but I just can't see Jimmy not being a lawyer. Not a well-credentialed one sure, but not a lawyer at all, nope.

I do note that the City which currently employs me had a person in senior administration in 2006 whose credentials did not hold up. At that time our City instituted a policy of having background checks done on all applicants moving forward, as well as a recheck on all executive level employees, including all legal staff.
There's a guy currently sitting in an Arizona State prison that committed, amongst other things, fraud by holding himself out as a lawyer, getting hired, then filing pleadings for people. Even duped the dubious Sheriff Joe on some issue. He got caught pretty quickly though on the attorney stuff (could talk a big game, but screwed up the pleadings and missed deadlines and such) and I think that's ultimately what brought him down. Was pretty impressive overall.
When I came out to Colorado it was still possible, then, to sit for the State Bar exam if one were "learned in the law" which was then interpreted as having worked in a law office as a paralegal under a licensed attorney, or having been a magistrate which then did not require a legal education or bar accreditation. I doubt any of those are still true.

I do know that New Mexico has some fairly tight rules on reciprocity. A few decades back they finally got their own accredited law school and they then more or less stopped allowing folks from other states to waive into their jurisdiction. Prior to getting that school they were wide open, as they had to be to attract attorneys to their state. by the generation BCS is taking place in New Mexico had pretty tight regs.
Man you're old. :P
Decrepit. I'm like the "Crypt Keeper" of the legal profession.

 
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Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
I don't think there is any realistic question o the show that Jimmy might not be a lawyer, particularly not on Breaking bad. Any lawyer who advertises as much and aggress as Saul does would certainly come to the attention of the State Bar. They would absolutely be aware of his credentials. As Saul, well he is in the courts daily. It would be very unlikely that nobody has checked his credentials.

That said, many years ago I worked in an office that hired an "attorney" He had an impressive resume. He was haughty, bombastic, and tried to be authoritative. From time to time, however, he would say things that no lawyer would ever say. I became suspicious. I checked his bona fides. He had not graduated from the law school on his resume, though he did attend for a year and a half. He had not passed the bar in his home state, and had never sat for the one in the state in which he was then practicing. He was hoping, I guess, to brazen his way through. he was looking for an Administrative job with the office, and was trying to completely eliminate acting as an attorney. Still, we had the bad situation where he had appeared as an attorney in Court. The was much embarrassment for the office, and much answering to the Courts over this. I was glad then that I was just a foot soldier and not a general as the finger pointing was rampant over having not checked his resume.

I suppose it is possible that a scammer could attempt to brazen his way by, but in this day and age of internet search engines you better be pretty much what you claim. Now the show taking place in 2004, or a touch earlier, the net is maybe not quite so ubiquitous, but I just can't see Jimmy not being a lawyer. Not a well-credentialed one sure, but not a lawyer at all, nope.

I do note that the City which currently employs me had a person in senior administration in 2006 whose credentials did not hold up. At that time our City instituted a policy of having background checks done on all applicants moving forward, as well as a recheck on all executive level employees, including all legal staff.
There's a guy currently sitting in an Arizona State prison that committed, amongst other things, fraud by holding himself out as a lawyer, getting hired, then filing pleadings for people. Even duped the dubious Sheriff Joe on some issue. He got caught pretty quickly though on the attorney stuff (could talk a big game, but screwed up the pleadings and missed deadlines and such) and I think that's ultimately what brought him down. Was pretty impressive overall.
Are you talking about Howard Kieffer? If not you should look him up. He actually tried cases, including a murder for hire trial in CO.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.
That's California.

In New Mexico, like pretty much every other state, you can't get a law license or even sit for the bar without having graduated from an ABA accredited school.
X Frank Abagnale passed the Louisiana* bar exam.

*Which uses that goofball Pepe LePew legal system.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.
That's California.

In New Mexico, like pretty much every other state, you can't get a law license or even sit for the bar without having graduated from an ABA accredited school.
X Frank Abagnale passed the Louisiana* bar exam.

*Which uses that goofball Pepe LePew legal system.
Huh, had always assumed it was California.

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.
That's California.

In New Mexico, like pretty much every other state, you can't get a law license or even sit for the bar without having graduated from an ABA accredited school.
X Frank Abagnale passed the Louisiana* bar exam.

*Which uses that goofball Pepe LePew legal system.
Huh, had always assumed it was California.
Well you know what happens when you assume something, right?

You look stupid(er).

 
sorry for the clutter, guys. thanks for tha answers Zow and DW, i'll pm my questions next time ;)

Those tales did fascinate me.

 
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-better-call-saul-nacho-im-at-a-payphone-trying-to-call-home

RN hasn't been around it seems so had to go find the Sepinwall review myself.

A review of tonight's "Better Call Saul" coming up just as soon as I do the sex robot voice...

"I'm no hero." -Jimmy

I really enjoyed the first two hours of "Saul," but "Nacho" is the first installment to suggest an actual structure for the new show. We get a story to keep Jimmy occupied for the whole episode, which is resolved on one level even as it's setting things up for future stories with Jimmy getting a look at all the cash the Kettlemans stole. And it's a whole lot of fun from beginning to end.

Though Jimmy protests his good guy bonafides, it's worth noting that most of the trouble he gets into here — and, for that matter, that he nearly got himself into with Tuco last week — came from him exercising a conscience that will mostly lie dormant by the time he's Saul Goodman. In alerting the Kettlemans about the danger Nacho poses, Jimmy does a good thing — not because he has anything to benefit from it, but because it seems like a thing he should do. Given how pear-shaped things go, and given what we know of Jimmy's future, it's not hard to look at this one as the first of many object lessons that would teach him to stop worrying about anyone's interests but his own.

Though Nacho's less volatile than Tuco, Jimmy's very aware of the danger he poses. The show takes pleasure in watching him dance and squirm and try to evade trouble from this mysterious stranger, from leaving a thousand messages on Nacho's voicemail like he's Mikey from "Swingers," to putting on a loud display with the Albuquerque cops to impress his would-be client. And we see Jimmy's criminal brain at work when he notices the little girl's doll missing and immediately realizes that the Kettlemans faked their own kidnapping.

The teaser gives us more of Jimmy's origin story, which aligns nicely with the first real Jimmy/Mike team-up. "Breaking Bad" never said exactly what caused Mike's departure from the Philadelphia PD — Hank just said his tenure ended "dramatically" — but we can tell from what we knew of Mike on that show and what we've seen of him here that it wasn't something he'd have chosen. He and Jimmy are both in this town because of mistakes they made elsewhere, both on the bottom rungs of different professional ladders, and fate has brought them together here. The show was very judicious with its use of Mike in the first two episodes, and the payoff here isn't huge — they aren't instantly partners or anything like that — but I still had an enormous smile on my face as he helped out Jimmy, even if it was as much to spite the condescending ABQ cops as it was because his instincts told him Jimmy was right.

"Nacho" also starts giving more depth to the members of the ensemble whom we don't already know from "Breaking Bad." Not only do we get to see a bit more of the title character in action, but Rhea Seehorn gets some extended run as Kim, and we get a sense of the relationship she and Jimmy once had (and, I suspect, will likely have again). And the teaser gives us a glimpse of Chuck at the height of his powers, rather than the diminished hermit Jimmy's looking out for at the moment. "Saul" has to be more than the Jimmy and Mike Show to work long-term, and we're starting to see the other pieces — the supporting characters, the structure, hints of larger arcs — come into place, slowly but surely.

Some other thoughts:

* As I noted last week, the title sequence keeps changing — here with a woman using the scales of justice as an ashtray — with only the VHS style of the footage remaining constant.

* Jimmy isn't a master scientist or engineer like Walter White, but he has his own, more primitive MacGyver skills, here quickly unspooling a paper towel tube to use to disguise his voice on the phone.

* A good payoff to last week's "All That Jazz"-style montage of Jimmy at work: he finally gets one over on one of the prosecutors, who gets completely confused about which client they're discussing.

* Jimmy/Saul's love of movie references continues, with him hilariously making like Nicholson in "The Shining" as he enters the Kettlemans' tent.

* We get our third "Breaking Bad" veteran director in a row in Terry McDonough (and our first script from a "BB" alum other than Gilligan and Gould in Thomas Schnauz). I like how all these familiar directors shoot "Saul" in ways that evoke the original series while seeming like its own thing. What stands out in this episode is the way Jimmy is so often shot from a distance, like a very small player in a much more important story (which he technically is, as far as "Breaking Bad" is concerned, at least).
 
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-better-call-saul-nacho-im-at-a-payphone-trying-to-call-home

RN hasn't been around it seems so had to go find the Sepinwall review myself.

A review of tonight's "Better Call Saul" coming up just as soon as I do the sex robot voice...

"I'm no hero." -Jimmy

I really enjoyed the first two hours of "Saul," but "Nacho" is the first installment to suggest an actual structure for the new show. We get a story to keep Jimmy occupied for the whole episode, which is resolved on one level even as it's setting things up for future stories with Jimmy getting a look at all the cash the Kettlemans stole. And it's a whole lot of fun from beginning to end.

Though Jimmy protests his good guy bonafides, it's worth noting that most of the trouble he gets into here — and, for that matter, that he nearly got himself into with Tuco last week — came from him exercising a conscience that will mostly lie dormant by the time he's Saul Goodman. In alerting the Kettlemans about the danger Nacho poses, Jimmy does a good thing — not because he has anything to benefit from it, but because it seems like a thing he should do. Given how pear-shaped things go, and given what we know of Jimmy's future, it's not hard to look at this one as the first of many object lessons that would teach him to stop worrying about anyone's interests but his own.

Though Nacho's less volatile than Tuco, Jimmy's very aware of the danger he poses. The show takes pleasure in watching him dance and squirm and try to evade trouble from this mysterious stranger, from leaving a thousand messages on Nacho's voicemail like he's Mikey from "Swingers," to putting on a loud display with the Albuquerque cops to impress his would-be client. And we see Jimmy's criminal brain at work when he notices the little girl's doll missing and immediately realizes that the Kettlemans faked their own kidnapping.

The teaser gives us more of Jimmy's origin story, which aligns nicely with the first real Jimmy/Mike team-up. "Breaking Bad" never said exactly what caused Mike's departure from the Philadelphia PD — Hank just said his tenure ended "dramatically" — but we can tell from what we knew of Mike on that show and what we've seen of him here that it wasn't something he'd have chosen. He and Jimmy are both in this town because of mistakes they made elsewhere, both on the bottom rungs of different professional ladders, and fate has brought them together here. The show was very judicious with its use of Mike in the first two episodes, and the payoff here isn't huge — they aren't instantly partners or anything like that — but I still had an enormous smile on my face as he helped out Jimmy, even if it was as much to spite the condescending ABQ cops as it was because his instincts told him Jimmy was right.

"Nacho" also starts giving more depth to the members of the ensemble whom we don't already know from "Breaking Bad." Not only do we get to see a bit more of the title character in action, but Rhea Seehorn gets some extended run as Kim, and we get a sense of the relationship she and Jimmy once had (and, I suspect, will likely have again). And the teaser gives us a glimpse of Chuck at the height of his powers, rather than the diminished hermit Jimmy's looking out for at the moment. "Saul" has to be more than the Jimmy and Mike Show to work long-term, and we're starting to see the other pieces — the supporting characters, the structure, hints of larger arcs — come into place, slowly but surely.

Some other thoughts:

* As I noted last week, the title sequence keeps changing — here with a woman using the scales of justice as an ashtray — with only the VHS style of the footage remaining constant.

* Jimmy isn't a master scientist or engineer like Walter White, but he has his own, more primitive MacGyver skills, here quickly unspooling a paper towel tube to use to disguise his voice on the phone.

* A good payoff to last week's "All That Jazz"-style montage of Jimmy at work: he finally gets one over on one of the prosecutors, who gets completely confused about which client they're discussing.

* Jimmy/Saul's love of movie references continues, with him hilariously making like Nicholson in "The Shining" as he enters the Kettlemans' tent.

* We get our third "Breaking Bad" veteran director in a row in Terry McDonough (and our first script from a "BB" alum other than Gilligan and Gould in Thomas Schnauz). I like how all these familiar directors shoot "Saul" in ways that evoke the original series while seeming like its own thing. What stands out in this episode is the way Jimmy is so often shot from a distance, like a very small player in a much more important story (which he technically is, as far as "Breaking Bad" is concerned, at least).
Et tu, Rude?

 
Hambone had the same Reporters, Restatements, and law books available at any other law school in the country. Harvard and Yale did not provide a financial opportunity that was workable for me at the time, and the University of Chicago, while being willing to work with me, also was beyond my means, but Hambone, well I could afford that.

Regardless of where I got my degree I sat for the same bar exam as those from other schools. Not only did I pass, but I did so with such a high Multi-State section score that I was eligible to wave into pretty much every jurisdiction in the country had I chosen to do so, excepting those states with a Field Code heritage, and the two which at the time also had a Practicum Section on their exam.

True Hambone does not have a top reputation, but then reputations do not perform, people do.
I wasn't really trying to discredit whatever school Jimmy/Saul may have come from, just wondering if it's been confirmed on this show or BB whether Saul is a legit lawyer or not. If everybody but me already knew he scammed his way into being a lawyer then :bag:

I don't think your post was directed at me, but it came about because of what I asked.. so there you go :shrug:
:lmao:

Yes, he's a legit lawyer. It would be pretty much impossible for him to appear in court if he wasn't. He'd have to file a Notice of Appearance and include in that Notice a bar number which identifies him as a licensed attorney.
Well I don't doubt that he may have passed the bar..

Did you see that movie "Catch me if you can" with Leo Dicaprio as a con artist and Tom Hanks? Dicaprio's character became a lawyer, without going to lawschool, by cramming for 2 weeks and passing the bar. I'm thinking something along those lines for Saul.
That's California.

In New Mexico, like pretty much every other state, you can't get a law license or even sit for the bar without having graduated from an ABA accredited school.
X Frank Abagnale passed the Louisiana* bar exam.

*Which uses that goofball Pepe LePew legal system.
Huh, had always assumed it was California.
Well you know what happens when you assume something, right?

You look stupid(er).
Which is why I always assu.

 

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