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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (2 Viewers)

Odenkirk is awesome. I was wondering when he was gonna break bad and actually become a criminal lawyer.

On this rock, I will build my church.

Space blanket rules, as does young bonghittin' Jimmy.

 
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Can we make two threads? One to actually discuss the show and another to discuss whether or not anyone thinks he knew the guy who fell off the billboard before saving him?

 
Loved Jimmy firing a shot across the bow of HHM. Really like that they found and used a G Graphic bong. I thought when Kim left the salon and obviously left the door unlocked that Nacho was going to rush in while Jimmy had his feet soaking.

 
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.

 
Previews for next week made it look like cops were about to bust in Chuck's door.

Neighbor who had the newspaper stolen call the cops?

Or are they looking for something that Jimmy might have(Ketterman's money?)

 
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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But think of the cucumber water, man.

(I thought he actually lived there too)

 
JaxBill said:
Previews for next week made it look like cops were about to bust in Chuck's door.

Neighbor who had the newspaper stolen call the cops?

Or are they looking for something that Jimmy might have(Ketterman's money?)
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Stolen? Five bucks for a daily newspaper is about 10 bucks more than it's worth.

 
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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If Jimmy had that kind of money he might have upgraded to a newer, though not new, Hyundai. I predict he will make that move very soon, though he will miss the cucumber water and the massage chairs.

 
I was in the camp of people who had seriuos doubts over both:

1. Odenkirk being able to pull off being the lead in an hour show (didn't think he'd be able to carry a show - mostly based on the character than Odenkirk himself);

2. there being good enough supporting staff to support 1 (he only had a secy and a door man who didn't talk much, so I didn't believe there would be sufficient entertainment to mesh with the Saul character).

Odenkirk has proven me wrong. The first episode was good enough (although it didn't dispell my two points). To me, every episode since the first has gotten better. Yesterday's show was the best one for me.

p.s. it was pretty obvious that the scaffolding guy was a hire of Saul's, but that scene was fantastic.

 
JaxBill said:
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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But think of the cucumber water, man.

(I thought he actually lived there too)
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If the nail salon was landlord to a neighboring real office and he had a key that would be kewl but, as is, it's weak and it's too late now. The Viet-American culture is the 2nd-most interesting in 'Burque - anglos are 3rd - so, if they're going to lollygag around the MacGill backstory, i'd love it if he picked up a JimmyOlsen/BakerStreetIrregular from among the nail ladies kids or something.

 
wikkidpissah said:
JaxBill said:
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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But think of the cucumber water, man.

(I thought he actually lived there too)
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If the nail salon was landlord to a neighboring real office and he had a key that would be kewl but, as is, it's weak and it's too late now. The Viet-American culture is the 2nd-most interesting in 'Burque - anglos are 3rd - so, if they're going to lollygag around the MacGill backstory, i'd love it if he picked up a JimmyOlsen/BakerStreetIrregular from among the nail ladies kids or something.
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So like Shortround was to Indiana Jones?

 
wikkidpissah said:
JaxBill said:
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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But think of the cucumber water, man.

(I thought he actually lived there too)
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The Viet-American culture is the 2nd-most interesting in 'Burque - anglos are 3rd - so, if they're going to lollygag around the MacGill backstory, i'd love it if he picked up a JimmyOlsen/BakerStreetIrregular from among the nail ladies kids or something.
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:mellow:

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
wikkidpissah said:
JaxBill said:
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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But think of the cucumber water, man.

(I thought he actually lived there too)
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If the nail salon was landlord to a neighboring real office and he had a key that would be kewl but, as is, it's weak and it's too late now. The Viet-American culture is the 2nd-most interesting in 'Burque - anglos are 3rd - so, if they're going to lollygag around the MacGill backstory, i'd love it if he picked up a JimmyOlsen/BakerStreetIrregular from among the nail ladies kids or something.
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So like Shortround was to Indiana Jones?
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Don't know the reference but i'm not talking Sammies here. You wanna get a line on something in 'Burque - from a cheap hit to a production lot of wine grapes - the Viet are your cheapest and safest bet. Some very pure capitalism there that someone in Saul's line would likely be availing himself of.

 
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.

 
kind of a lateral episode last night and i'm okay with it. they're still laying the groundwork and building the universe for the characters to operate in. if anything Gilligan has shown in his BB work is that things pick up midseason before rushing to great season ending drama. it's a good narrative and story telling strategy.

 
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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He didn't have money to pay for parking. What are you talking about.

 
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JaxBill said:
Previews for next week made it look like cops were about to bust in Chuck's door.

Neighbor who had the newspaper stolen call the cops?

Or are they looking for something that Jimmy might have(Ketterman's money?)
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My guess is a gambit by Hamlin to put the squeeze on Jimmy. Hamlin knows he cares about his brother. He's also already visited Chuck at home.

When Jimmy lied about the billboard story (or sidestepped the truth), I was half-suspecting that Hamlin had already been there and ratted him out so Chuck would try to control Jimmy.

 
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.
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Jimmy wanted both the client and the money. He mentioned the money they offered would be considered a "retainer" to hire him. It was just a means of him making a money grab and it being considered "good" money.

 
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.
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Yeah I thought that was a great scene. He was actively trying to do things on the up and up and you see the sort of interpersonal resignation of being the "good guy" when the mom tells him matter-of-factly that he only represents the guilty* - suggesting that he is, in essence, a bad guy himself.

*I also love the absolute indignation of the Kettlemans as they truly seem to believe they aren't criminals and look at Saul with such disdain.

 
kentric said:
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.
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Jimmy wanted both the client and the money. He mentioned the money they offered would be considered a "retainer" to hire him. It was just a means of him making a money grab and it being considered "good" money.
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I didn't necessarily see it that way. I think he genuinely wants (or at least, until that point, wanted) to be a good defense attorney staying above the ethical line. Clearly, he's obsessed with Hamlin and while he may be unlikeable nothing in the suggests suggests him or his firm does anything illegally or obtained their good reputation through illegal or unethical means.

 
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.
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I don't think that's what he was doing. I think he was trying his best to stay within the law. By taking the money as a contingency he hasn't done anything wrong. By taking a bribe he crossed a line.

 
Zow said:
kentric said:
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.
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Jimmy wanted both the client and the money. He mentioned the money they offered would be considered a "retainer" to hire him. It was just a means of him making a money grab and it being considered "good" money.
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I didn't necessarily see it that way. I think he genuinely wants (or at least, until that point, wanted) to be a good defense attorney staying above the ethical line. Clearly, he's obsessed with Hamlin and while he may be unlikeable nothing in the suggests suggests him or his firm does anything illegally or obtained their good reputation through illegal or unethical means.
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Way I saw it as well.

I think Mrs Ketterman telling Saul he is the kind of lawyer that represents guilty people was his breaking bad moment. I think he realizes she is right and he will never be able to obtain the type of clients Hamlin would be able to get. I think he now "owns" that mentality.

"You don't need a criminal lawyer, you need a criminal lawyer"

 
Capella said:
wikkidpissah said:
I suppose it's a cute production fetish, but you can rent a decent, well-located office in Albq for like $250/mo so the nail-parlor backroom office that would actually convince potential clients not to hire him bothered me to begin with but is gratuitous now that Jimmy has some bucks. Lotsa porkchop fat in the writing so far and it's starting to bother me.
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He didn't have money to pay for parking. What are you talking about.
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guy drives the worst car ever, can't pay for parking, and is reliant on low-paying jobs while sleeping/living in his office. not sure how he could afford even $250/mo for an office when he doesn't appear to have a legit home.

 
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Probably got into the nail salon with little or no deposit or security.

I mean you could look at it that way or you could over think it and ruin a perfectly good show for yourself.

 
Zow said:
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.
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Yeah I thought that was a great scene. He was actively trying to do things on the up and up and you see the sort of interpersonal resignation of being the "good guy" when the mom tells him matter-of-factly that he only represents the guilty* - suggesting that he is, in essence, a bad guy himself.

*I also love the absolute indignation of the Kettlemans as they truly seem to believe they aren't criminals and look at Saul with such disdain.
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It wasn't that she said he only represents the guilty, but that he looks like the type that only represents the guilty. In other words he appears to be a sleazy, low rent guy in his looks and mannerisms and therefore will always only represent the low rent guilty. She cut him to the quick. Embezzlers looking down on him. Caught red-handed, but still certain that their status was superior to him.

 
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comfortably numb said:
Zow said:
kentric said:
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.
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Jimmy wanted both the client and the money. He mentioned the money they offered would be considered a "retainer" to hire him. It was just a means of him making a money grab and it being considered "good" money.
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I didn't necessarily see it that way. I think he genuinely wants (or at least, until that point, wanted) to be a good defense attorney staying above the ethical line. Clearly, he's obsessed with Hamlin and while he may be unlikeable nothing in the suggests suggests him or his firm does anything illegally or obtained their good reputation through illegal or unethical means.
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Way I saw it as well.

I think Mrs Ketterman telling Saul he is the kind of lawyer that represents guilty people was his breaking bad moment. I think he realizes she is right and he will never be able to obtain the type of clients Hamlin would be able to get. I think he now "owns" that mentality.

"You don't need a criminal lawyer, you need a criminal lawyer"
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Like Nacho said, "for when you realize you are in the game".

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
flysack said:
Jaysus said:
flysack said:
Prurient side discussion: anyone else really want to play cabana boy with a poolside Mrs. Pettlemen?
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:lmao:

p.s. there is a fun GIS pic of her floating around
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Big fan

(link to google img results)
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Eye opening. A little more there to work with than I had noticed.
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She reminds me a lot of a former English prof I used to TA for, who made it known that she was into the Flysack and had no qualms being my naughty mistress. Same pretty homey face, same hair style, same fantastic rack.

Alas, the Sack be married and faithful. :(

 
Jack White said:
Interesting that Jimmy really wanted the client more than the money, and only took the bribe when it became clear that wouldn't be possible.

Also, how long before Jimmy buys the white Caddy? I thought we might see it in this episode, but Gilligan and Co. are patient.
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We saw it in the first episode...kinda. Jimmy was parked right next to one that looked exactly like it http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/breaking-bad-references-from-the-first-episode-of-better-c

 
I will say that the camera work on the billboard scene was great. Being extremely afraid of heights myself, I wanted to turn away several times.

 
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