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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (5 Viewers)

I heard Bob Odenkirk in an interview say that episode 9 which I think is next week was the episode that is going to blow everyone away. He mentioned people were going to love episode 6 which was the mike episode and then said but #9 was going to be the oh my God episode.

 
My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.

 
My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.
How come Jimmy didn't know the name of those "light thingies" on HHM's fancy conference room table? He used to work there so he would definitely know.

 
My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.
Don't forget that this is ~13 years ago.

 
Man what a great show.

It is going to totally suck when Saul gets none of this money, or just a pittance.

My 2-bit prediction is that Chuck somehow sides with HHM or whatever and beats Jimmy out of this money. Feeling betrayed he changes his name and becomes Saul.

 
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You'd have to think that Chuck could have gotten Jimmy named an associate after he passed the bar, but he clearly wasn't comfortable with it and had his partner be the fall guy - even though Chuck missed the scam and Jimmy picked up on it, he's not going to trust Jimmy to lead a case of this magnitude and HHM will offer a six figure pay out for Jiimmy to bail, with the condition that he change his name.

 
My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.
Really liking the office supply angle you are bringing.

 
My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.
Really liking the office supply angle you are bringing.
It's a staple of the thread.

 
"There's no expectation of privacy if a hobo can use it as a wigwam."

Jesus. Had to pause the episode right there for a good five minutes to get over the laughing fit. That's f###### writing. That's art right there.

God I hope some judge puts that in a ruling someday. That's amazing. :lmao:
Jimmy's language continues crack me up.

Notice how the way he phrases things -humorous, witty, a bit street-wise - is often dismissed or ignored or just incomprehensible to the legal establishment around him?

That quip about Nebraska, "Go Huskers!" was a foreign language to the opposing attorney. Jimmy sighs, then marches in with the RICO stuff.

Also, right after Jimmy makes the wigwam remark, he's forced by his brother's frown to button up and phrase what he means in boring-yet-precise legalese.

The guy is like a poet stuffed in a suit and law degree.

Ok, so I'm a word dork and this probably way more fascinating for me. But I think it's just great effing writing - it zeros right in on the conflict of Jimmy's character, his dualism.

 
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My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.
Really liking the office supply angle you are bringing.
:lmao: :lmao:

Hey, it's better than the 'street poet' angle I'm pushing.

 
My favorite part was the shredding. If you want to shred something, never cheap out and use a strip cut. Heck they don't even make them anymore except off brands. I'm also glad he said they should have used "cross-cut" instead of "micro cut" which is what they have today. Really restored faith in the show for me.
Really liking the office supply angle you are bringing.
:lmao: :lmao:

Hey, it's better than the 'street poet' angle I'm pushing.
im partial to the camera angles myself

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.

 
Doesn't seem like Chuck at all.
No it really doesn't. Maybe chuck dies and then HHM takes jimmy to the cleaner. But there has to be a reason he changes his name?
Chuck wouldn't just want to outright screw him but because he's using firm resources and has seemingly supported but not been overly confident or proud with Jimmy I can see Jimmy doing something not totally above board that cuts him out of much if not all of the proceeds.
 
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Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
They're not violating an "Interstate Commerce Act." They're engaging in interstate commerce and fraudulently charging for those items.

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
You aren't committing a fraud that incorporates those items. Or, at least I hope not.

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
They're not violating an "Interstate Commerce Act." They're engaging in interstate commerce and fraudulently charging for those items.
So its the resale factor. If they were overcharging in New Mexico that would be OK

I dont want to clutter up this thread so Ill move it to the lawyer thread if need be. But it is something I would like to understand

 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
They're not violating an "Interstate Commerce Act." They're engaging in interstate commerce and fraudulently charging for those items.
So its the resale factor. If they were overcharging in New Mexico that would be OK

I dont want to clutter up this thread so Ill move it to the lawyer thread if need be. But it is something I would like to understand
Not a lawyer, but it wouldn't be okay. It's still fraud. But in having it cross state lines, it makes it a federal case, and that's what allows them to bring RICO into it, brings the other nursing homes into it as well, and make the potential penalties much more severe.

I think.

 
"There's no expectation of privacy if a hobo can use it as a wigwam."

Jesus. Had to pause the episode right there for a good five minutes to get over the laughing fit. That's f###### writing. That's art right there.

God I hope some judge puts that in a ruling someday. That's amazing. :lmao:
Jimmy's language continues crack me up.

Notice how the way he phrases things -humorous, witty, a bit street-wise - is often dismissed or ignored or just incomprehensible to the legal establishment around him?

That quip about Nebraska, "Go Huskers!" was a foreign language to the opposing attorney. Jimmy sighs, then marches in with the RICO stuff.

Also, right after Jimmy makes the wigwam remark, he's forced by his brother's frown to button up and phrase what he means in boring-yet-precise legalese.

The guy is like a poet stuffed in a suit and law degree.

Ok, so I'm a word dork and this probably way more fascinating for me. But I think it's just great effing writing - it zeros right in on the conflict of Jimmy's character, his dualism.
You use sexy words and I likey.

 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.
Yea I don't want to Woz this thread up but that was unrealistic to me. Most non-legal people wouldn't pick up on it though which will probably make it a big surprise. I told my wife there is no way in hell you would go into Lexus or west law that lackadaisically. When I worked for a firm using that was a pretty significant deal.Edit: of course chuck can use his but then you are using firm resources which both would be really aware of.

 
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Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
They're not violating an "Interstate Commerce Act." They're engaging in interstate commerce and fraudulently charging for those items.
So its the resale factor. If they were overcharging in New Mexico that would be OK

I dont want to clutter up this thread so Ill move it to the lawyer thread if need be. But it is something I would like to understand
It's just a matter of getting federal jurisdiction. If the fraud was all in-state, you'd have a nice fraud case, but no way to envoke RICO, which is a federal law. With inter-state commerce, you can. RICO has heavier penalties, so it's good news for a plaintiff if they can use it.

 
"There's no expectation of privacy if a hobo can use it as a wigwam."

Jesus. Had to pause the episode right there for a good five minutes to get over the laughing fit. That's f###### writing. That's art right there.

God I hope some judge puts that in a ruling someday. That's amazing. :lmao:
Jimmy's language continues crack me up.

Notice how the way he phrases things -humorous, witty, a bit street-wise - is often dismissed or ignored or just incomprehensible to the legal establishment around him?

That quip about Nebraska, "Go Huskers!" was a foreign language to the opposing attorney. Jimmy sighs, then marches in with the RICO stuff.

Also, right after Jimmy makes the wigwam remark, he's forced by his brother's frown to button up and phrase what he means in boring-yet-precise legalese.

The guy is like a poet stuffed in a suit and law degree.

Ok, so I'm a word dork and this probably way more fascinating for me. But I think it's just great effing writing - it zeros right in on the conflict of Jimmy's character, his dualism.
Fellow word dork here. I totally agree.

I bust a gut on the wigwam line.

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
They're not violating an "Interstate Commerce Act." They're engaging in interstate commerce and fraudulently charging for those items.
So its the resale factor. If they were overcharging in New Mexico that would be OK

I dont want to clutter up this thread so Ill move it to the lawyer thread if need be. But it is something I would like to understand
Not a lawyer, but it wouldn't be okay. It's still fraud. But in having it cross state lines, it makes it a federal case, and that's what allows them to bring RICO into it, brings the other nursing homes into it as well, and make the potential penalties much more severe.

I think.
That's the way I read it, too. Cause to take the case federal.

 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.
:goodposting: Maybe this is what sinks Jimmy? Seemed like they made a scene of it.

I didn't quite understand why Hamlin would have a claim to this case? Is it simply that Chuck is working on it while employed by HH&M? I thought it was Jimmy's case and Chuck was pro bono? Guessing that defense won't fly?

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
They're not violating an "Interstate Commerce Act." They're engaging in interstate commerce and fraudulently charging for those items.
So its the resale factor. If they were overcharging in New Mexico that would be OKI dont want to clutter up this thread so Ill move it to the lawyer thread if need be. But it is something I would like to understand
It's just a matter of getting federal jurisdiction. If the fraud was all in-state, you'd have a nice fraud case, but no way to envoke RICO, which is a federal law. With inter-state commerce, you can. RICO has heavier penalties, so it's good news for a plaintiff if they can use it.
Which was all explained within the context of the show. Do better, acer.
 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.
:goodposting: Maybe this is what sinks Jimmy? Seemed like they made a scene of it.

I didn't quite understand why Hamlin would have a claim to this case? Is it simply that Chuck is working on it while employed by HH&M? I thought it was Jimmy's case and Chuck was pro bono? Guessing that defense won't fly?
Not just Chuck, but Saul's fling did the research while "at work"... Thus two "employees" of HHM worked on this lawsuit.. Have a feeling, as others mentioned above, this case is the beginning of Saul. :popcorn:

 
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But Jimmy found the case, how could HHM steal the majority from him if he found it and did a lot of the work? I get the whole code thing indicates HHM has a kind of right to some of the case but how can they get most of it?

Lawyers screwing lawyers isn't the worst though.

 
But Jimmy found the case, how could HHM steal the majority from him if he found it and did a lot of the work? I get the whole code thing indicates HHM has a kind of right to some of the case but how can they get most of it?

Lawyers screwing lawyers isn't the worst though.
Don't think they'll get most of it, but they can certainly use their plentiful resources against Jimmy's meager resources to hold it up in court for a long time.

I think we're going to get some sort of a standoff: Possibly something goes bad with Chuck and his health, real or imagined, and Hamlin uses the existence of this case and his potential claim to it to relieve him of any obligation to make Chuck whole on his partnership interest. Jimmy has to decide which he'd rather have.

 
Definitely think the copy code will do Jimmy in. Whether Chuck doesnt share or Howard takes it is the question.

How is buying syringes in another state a violation of the Interstate Commerce Act. I buy things from other states all the time. Woz, explain this in a way a 5 year old will understand.
It's not. It just allows them to have federal jurisdiction which allows them to bring federal law into it (which they need for RICO).

 
You'd have to think that Chuck could have gotten Jimmy named an associate after he passed the bar, but he clearly wasn't comfortable with it and had his partner be the fall guy - even though Chuck missed the scam and Jimmy picked up on it, he's not going to trust Jimmy to lead a case of this magnitude and HHM will offer a six figure pay out for Jiimmy to bail, with the condition that he change his name.
I agree up to here. I can't imagine them forcing him to change his name. I could see them saying he can't practice law under the name in the area and this result in his deciding to change his name to Saul Goodman as a means to get around this restriction.

I'm most interested in Jimmy's revenge on HHM. That will be an incredible episode.

 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.
I was a bit surprised at this as well. First, that Chuck would suggest it. Second, that Jimmy agrees to it.

 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.
I was a bit surprised at this as well. First, that Chuck would suggest it. Second, that Jimmy agrees to it.
Seemed like they were both so excited with what they had, they didn't really think it through.

 
But Jimmy found the case, how could HHM steal the majority from him if he found it and did a lot of the work? I get the whole code thing indicates HHM has a kind of right to some of the case but how can they get most of it?

Lawyers screwing lawyers isn't the worst though.
Because Jimmy clearly doesn't have the resources to pursue a federal class action suit on his own. Hell he doesn't even have access to Westlaw to do simple research. Also, Chuck is not a free agent. He is a partner at HHM, so he is likely not free to pursue his own cases. Since HHM (through Chuck) would be doing most of the heavy lifting, they are entitled to most of the dollars the case generates.

 
Lawyering on this show is different than on LA Law. I never heard anything about accountants checking for paper costs and Westlaw from Cifuentes

 
I thought Jimmy would have been a bit more alert to the potential issues with using Chuck's code, considering in the first or second episode, he called Hamlin out for sending Chuck documents and sending him checks to make it seem like he was still working for the firm from home, in response to Jimmy's demands that he get bought out.
I was a bit surprised at this as well. First, that Chuck would suggest it. Second, that Jimmy agrees to it.
Seemed like they were both so excited with what they had, they didn't really think it through.
Guy went out in broad daylight, used Jimmy's remote device on the car trunk, no awareness when his mind was caught up in lawyer stuff.

I get the feeling the stress of courtrooms/negotiating etc is what drove Chuck to the space blanket, and now that he's starting to come out from under it Jimmy's going to push him right back.

 
So why hasn't everyone just kept their phones, watches, etc. in their cars instead putting them in the mailbox?
I say the same thing every time they do it. I don't get the whole putting it in the mailbox thing. Seems like a good way to get your watch and phone stolen.

 

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