***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (4 Viewers)

[DA RAIDERS]

So dumb. Guy pulls a gun on me, I’m hitting him with the sharp end of the ax. Repeatedly. I’m not too interested in having a conversation with him.  

 

[belljr]

Id rather the gun accidentally firing as he was hit with an axe over the way it played out lol

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Id rather the gun accidentally firing as he was hit with an axe over the way it played out lol

the razor blade was really really dumb

 

[Scoresman]

Reddit has already deciphered the vet's little black book.  

I'd post a link, but it may be spoilery

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Sure but I would never have given him the chance.  He came after me and pulled a gun on me.  I wasn't going to give him a chance to use the gun or come after me with something else.  I would have been hiding in a way (I know the place he doesn't) that I could have jumped him and used the axe to incapacitate decapitate him.  Obviously this is real life vs movie life so I understand the reason this didn't happen.  

FTFY.

Also, unless you live a way more exciting existence than I do, a scenario where you're fighting off a gun-wielding bad guy with your axe doesn't exactly qualify as "real life" 

 

[Gally]

FTFY.

Also, unless you live a way more exciting existence than I do, a scenario where you're fighting off a gun-wielding bad guy with your axe doesn't exactly qualify as "real life" 

That's a normal Tuesday for me

 

[JaxBill]

FTFY.

Also, unless you live a way more exciting existence than I do, a scenario where you're fighting off a gun-wielding bad guy with your axe doesn't exactly qualify as "real life" 

Well I live in Florida so it's more like  fighting off a 12 foot gator with a trash can but point taken.

 

[Galileo]

HOLY SH!T...didn't see that coming.

 

[joffer]

 

[GreenNGold]

I don't think Saul is going to make it out of this one alive.  Long wait until 7/11. 

 

[Galileo]

I don't think Saul is going to make it out of this one alive. 

Well, this certainly opens the door for potential Kim fate...

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

That was kind of rash.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Howard was kind of a weasel, but pretty sure he didn't deserve to go out like that, first with being disgraced by that scam and then Lalo going all mafia hit on him.  

They have certainly done an extraordinary job of making both Jimmy and Kim unlikable at this point. There is almost no one left to root for. 

 

[Desert_Power]

Lalo has been an excellent villain. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

Lalo has been an excellent villain. 

Has he really been, though?  He seems fairly one-dimensional. And they have written him to be this unstoppable superhuman, from avoiding death despite a handful of assassins gunning for him at the end of the last season to getting the upper hand on a guy last week despite being hit in the ribs with an axe. 

 

[Willie Neslon]

WOW

 

[Dennis Castro]

####, I’m out.

 

[ZADO]

holy head wound

Makes the whole con worth it now , fate is a fickle friend

 

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

They have certainly done an extraordinary job of making both Jimmy and Kim unlikable at this point. There is almost no one left to root for. 

Um, that's kind of the point of the whole series. Only question at this point is whether Gene will be able to redeem the character if/when they do a flash-forward to Omaha. I'm assuming they wouldn't give him the same arc as Walter White, where he kills the bad guys and martyrs himself. Will be interesting what the final verdict is on his soul

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I'm also interested in what kind of deus ex machina is going to allow Jimmy to leave that apartment alive. (I would assume Kim survives as well, since I can't see them killing her off with that many episodes to go).

 

[Ghost Rider]

Um, that's kind of the point of the whole series. Only question at this point is whether Gene will be able to redeem the character if/when they do a flash-forward to Omaha. I'm assuming they wouldn't give him the same arc as Walter White, where he kills the bad guys and martyrs himself. Will be interesting what the final verdict is on his soul

To me, the interesting thing is that Jimmy McGill is a fairly boring character. Saul Goodman was a criminal lawyer who had a lot of enthusiasm and a bit of a clownish act, but Jimmy is more subdued and thus not really that interesting, IMO.  Even when he occasionally reverts to Saul mode (which is obviously a precursor to the full time Saul we saw on BB), it feels like it is Jimmy being a little animated rather than the clownish Saul we all knew and loved from Breaking Bad. 

 

[TheAristocrat]

That was awesome.

I don't think Kim lives through the final episodes.  And I think Jimmy/Saul has to deal with it during BB early on.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

To me, the interesting thing is that Jimmy McGill is a fairly boring character. Saul Goodman was a criminal lawyer who had a lot of enthusiasm and a bit of a clownish act, but Jimmy is more subdued and thus not really that interesting, IMO.  Even when he occasionally reverts to Saul mode (which is obviously a precursor to the full time Saul we saw on BB), it feels like it is Jimmy being a little animated rather than the clownish Saul we all knew and loved from Breaking Bad. 

IMO that's the central tension of the show. Of course SG is a more interesting character than JM, and we've been waiting all this time to see the transformation. But that transformation is also a tragedy, so we feel badly about rooting too hard for it.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

That was awesome.

I don't think Kim lives through the final episodes.  And I think Jimmy/Saul has to deal with it during BB early on.

I feel like they have to save her for the Gene-verse.

Kind of crazy at how much ground they still have to cover in the final half of the season: wrap up the Lalo/Gus battle, fully transform Jimmy into Saul, take us through the Breaking Bad timeline (including cameos from Cranston and Paul) and then show us what happens to Gene.

 

[Desert_Power]

The tension all episode long was phenomenal.

 

[Desert_Power]

Also the title of the episode was "Plan and Execution"

 

[TheAristocrat]

I feel like they have to save her for the Gene-verse.

Kind of crazy at how much ground they still have to cover in the final half of the season: wrap up the Lalo/Gus battle, fully transform Jimmy into Saul, take us through the Breaking Bad timeline (including cameos from Cranston and Paul) and then show us what happens to Gene.

I don't disagree at all.  Could go that way.  I'm just starting to think that the full Saul is to repay debts that obviously doesn't end well.  But I think you could be on the money too so I'm not betting on anything.

Loved that temporary ending.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I am not convinced we will see a Gus/Lalo resolution.  What if Lalo survives and lives through the BB timeline, which could explain a) why Saul was scared to death in thinking Lalo had sent Walt and Jesse when they first kidnapped him, and b) why Gene is scared to death of being recognized in Nebraska, as he knows Lalo is still alive and may find him. 

 

[TheAristocrat]

I am not convinced we will see a Gus/Lalo resolution.  What if Lalo survives and lives through the BB timeline, which could explain a) why Saul was scared to death in thinking Lalo had sent Walt and Jesse when they first kidnapped him, and b) why Gene is scared to death of being recognized in Nebraska, as he knows Lalo is still alive and may find him. 

I triple like this.

 

[Desert_Power]

Has he really been, though?  He seems fairly one-dimensional. And they have written him to be this unstoppable superhuman, from avoiding death despite a handful of assassins gunning for him at the end of the last season to getting the upper hand on a guy last week despite being hit in the ribs with an axe. 

I like the character. He is calm and methodical while being absolutely ruthless and violent. I've enjoyed his long stalking of Gus and team, particularly how much he rattles them. YMMV

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

So we have to wait until July to find out if Howard pulls through?

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I am not convinced we will see a Gus/Lalo resolution.  What if Lalo survives and lives through the BB timeline, which could explain a) why Saul was scared to death in thinking Lalo had sent Walt and Jesse when they first kidnapped him, and b) why Gene is scared to death of being recognized in Nebraska, as he knows Lalo is still alive and may find him. 

One hole in that theory: By the time of BB, Gus clearly is not spending a lot of time worrying about Lalo, even as he moves against the rest of the Salamancas. That would argue in favor of Lalo eating it by the time they wrap up the BCS timeline, 

More likely explanation is that Gus/Mike end up killing Lalo (before he can show his videotape to Don Eladio) but Saul never finds out and still thinks he has reason to worry

 

[wikkidpissah]

I like the character. He is calm and methodical while being absolutely ruthless and violent. I've enjoyed his long stalking of Gus and team, particularly how much he rattles them. YMMV

he reminds me of Lorne Malvo (Fargo, S1) - the glee of the psychopath with a code matching the actor's glee in protraying him.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

So we have to wait until July to find out if Howard pulls through?

It's a shame he wasn't more ... headstrong

 

[Desert_Power]

So Howard’s brains get blown out onto the painting that Kim and Jimmy have been planning on the back of. That same painting is in Saul’s house that the cops are going through. These writers are just on another level of detail. 

 

[Runkle]

I am not convinced we will see a Gus/Lalo resolution.  What if Lalo survives and lives through the BB timeline, which could explain a) why Saul was scared to death in thinking Lalo had sent Walt and Jesse when they first kidnapped him, and b) why Gene is scared to death of being recognized in Nebraska, as he knows Lalo is still alive and may find him. 

Even if Lalo dies, Saul's already seen him return from the dead once. Imagine that scene in BB where Saul asks about him... thinking that he's done it again 

 

[Ghost Rider]

One hole in that theory: By the time of BB, Gus clearly is not spending a lot of time worrying about Lalo, even as he moves against the rest of the Salamancas. That would argue in favor of Lalo eating it by the time they wrap up the BCS timeline, 

More likely explanation is that Gus/Mike end up killing Lalo (before he can show his videotape to Don Eladio) but Saul never finds out and still thinks he has reason to worry

True, but I am just spitballing here.   A lot of ways this can go.  

 

[pantherclub]

I am not convinced we will see a Gus/Lalo resolution.  What if Lalo survives and lives through the BB timeline, which could explain a) why Saul was scared to death in thinking Lalo had sent Walt and Jesse when they first kidnapped him, and b) why Gene is scared to death of being recognized in Nebraska, as he knows Lalo is still alive and may find him. 

That doesnt make sense because he was saul out in the open in BB after walt kidnaps him.  Why would he start to get scared in nebraska and nothing about lalo or the cartel was talked about in BB

Also arent mikes guys watching Kim and Saul

 

[Ghost Rider]

That doesnt make sense because he was saul out in the open in BB after walt kidnaps him.  Why would he start to get scared in nebraska and nothing about lalo or the cartel was talked about in BB

Also arent mikes guys watching Kim and Saul

It sounds like all hands were on deck to protect Gus, and Mike even mentioned that the more low level stuff was being put on the backburner (cannot recall the way he worded it, but that was the gist).   Keeping an eye on Jimmy and Kim was a low priority in Mike's mind since I am sure he doesn't think Lalo is coming back to go after them. 

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

It sounds like all hands were on deck to protect Gus, and Mike even mentioned that the more low level stuff was being put on the backburner (cannot recall the way he worded it, but that was the gist).   Keeping an eye on Jimmy and Kim was a low priority in Mike's mind since I am sure he doesn't think Lalo is coming back to go after them. 

Yeah, Lalo head-faked him into concentrating security efforts on Gus so he could go after “soft” targets like J&K. Which was a little too super-villainy when you think about it; how would Lalo have even known Gus had men watching J&K?

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

True, but I am just spitballing here.   A lot of ways this can go.  

Oh I love all this speculation. By all means, keep it coming!

I think it’s really fascinating that the writers have these three different timelines to play with, and we have to figure out how they all fit together

 

[Ghost Rider]

Yeah, Lalo head-faked him into concentrating security efforts on Gus so he could go after “soft” targets like J&K. Which was a little too super-villainy when you think about it; how would Lalo have even known Gus had men watching J&K?

I think it is very possible that Lalo never knew that Jimmy and Kim had a tail (Mike's guys).  Heck, he never knew that Mike had a gun on him in the scene in their apartment where he kept asking Jimmy to tell him again what happened in the desert. 

Oh I love all this speculation. By all means, keep it coming!

I think it’s really fascinating that the writers have these three different timelines to play with, and we have to figure out how they all fit together

Yep.  It is fun to throw out ideas, but I am sure in the end, we will all be wrong.

 

[Major]

The tension all episode long was phenomenal.

Yeah, that was a perfect 'season' finale.  Great pace and build up after some fairly dull episodes.  Still digesting all that happened.  

 

[PhillipPhoto]

Howard was kind of a weasel, but pretty sure he didn't deserve to go out like that, first with being disgraced by that scam and then Lalo going all mafia hit on him.  

They have certainly done an extraordinary job of making both Jimmy and Kim unlikable at this point. There is almost no one left to root for. 

Unlikable?  Love them both. 

 

[Desert_Power]

Yeah, Lalo head-faked him into concentrating security efforts on Gus so he could go after “soft” targets like J&K. Which was a little too super-villainy when you think about it; how would Lalo have even known Gus had men watching J&K?

Lalo doesn't decide to to Jimmy until he sees the cockroach after Mike leaves the laundry. Since he realizes his line is tapped in the first call, the second call just functions to stir the pot. Maybe he thinks some men will be pulled off the laundry or he can scare Gus into some other mistake.  Then he sees the cockroach (his nickname for Jimmy) go by and decides he still knows more than he let on.

 

[pantherclub]

A few things I have been thinking about?   Wouldnt mike figure out that Lalo was watching the laundry and then go to the sewer in front?

Also why doesnt Lalo get the cousins to come with him?

 

[themeanmachine]

I just can't see Kim taking a bullet before the season ends, with Jimmy then going full Saul as it transitions to BB. I think Kim's death would destroy him. I believe they already foreshadowed it with the vacuum cleaner business card and Kim gets swooped away to a new life. And perhaps it won't be due to heat from Lalo - maybe when Howard goes missing, Clifford Main starts investigating, Kim sees the serious legal trouble coming her way, Jimmy doesn't want to run but wants her to stay safe, and evacuates her.

Am very curious to see just how they make it out of the apartment alive.

 

[urbanhack]

Has he really been, though?  He seems fairly one-dimensional. And they have written him to be this unstoppable superhuman, from avoiding death despite a handful of assassins gunning for him at the end of the last season to getting the upper hand on a guy last week despite being hit in the ribs with an axe. 

• He's a lethal killer
  
• He's charming and a ladies man
  
• He's funny
  
• He's smart AF 
  

 

[wikkidpissah]

i'll never get that i have to watch glob after glob of hero & superhero moviegunk because the public forgives any & all plotlessness (except world domination, lotsa dat) if the splosions are big enuff, yet the same audience goes all CSI on TV minutiae

ETA: and Kim has to die now. she's Jesse Pinkman from here on out - racked with dread over bringing death into her world, except with far more scruples than JP ever had. she watches old movies - killers must die. she must take Lalo out,. save Slippin' Jimmy cuz he's lucky enough not to suffer like like she does and bring honor back into her last breath

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Lalo doesn't decide to to Jimmy until he sees the cockroach after Mike leaves the laundry. Since he realizes his line is tapped in the first call, the second call just functions to stir the pot. Maybe he thinks some men will be pulled off the laundry or he can scare Gus into some other mistake.  Then he sees the cockroach (his nickname for Jimmy) go by and decides he still knows more than he let on.

Totally missed that. Thanks!