***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (1 Viewer)

[ignatiusjreilly]

A few things I have been thinking about?   Wouldnt mike figure out that Lalo was watching the laundry and then go to the sewer in front?

Also why doesnt Lalo get the cousins to come with him?

Re: Mike -- the whole season has been a cat-and-mouse game between Gus and Lalo. In this episode, Lalo is the one with the upper hand. I'm sure it will switch back and forth a couple more times.

Re: cousins -- Hector remains the only person Lalo has told of his situation. Maybe he wants to keep the circle small. Maybe he figured he could tell Hector since there was no chance of Hector blabbing (of course that didn't stop Gus from figuring it out anyway). But for now he's keeping his cards close to the vest

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

• He's a lethal killer
  
• He's charming and a ladies man
  
• He's funny
  
• He's smart AF 
  

And as far as I can tell, has not broken any actual laws.

 

[dkp993]

A few things I have been thinking about?   Wouldnt mike figure out that Lalo was watching the laundry and then go to the sewer in front?

Also why doesnt Lalo get the cousins to come with him?

Re: Mike -- the whole season has been a cat-and-mouse game between Gus and Lalo. In this episode, Lalo is the one with the upper hand. I'm sure it will switch back and forth a couple more times.

Re: cousins -- Hector remains the only person Lalo has told of his situation. Maybe he wants to keep the circle small. Maybe he figured he could tell Hector since there was no chance of Hector blabbing (of course that didn't stop Gus from figuring it out anyway). But for now he's keeping his cards close to the ves

I also think the cousins are a sledgehammer when Lalo wants to be a scalpel right now. Remain under the radar and use surprise, there’s nothing subtle about the cousins.  

 

[dkp993]

Food for thought. We know Mike had guys on Jimmy and Kim, now he said he pulled them off non-essential targets once the got the call from Lalo but I wonder if Jimmy/Kim are non-essential.  If not then they know where Lalo is right now…..

 

[dhockster]

And as far as I can tell, has not broken any actual laws.

I always forget that New Mexico does not have a law against shooting a lawyer in the head lol.

 

[wikkidpissah]

I always forget that New Mexico does not have a law against shooting a lawyer in the head lol.

well shooting em in the heart doesnt do anything...

 

[PhillipPhoto]

I always forget that New Mexico does not have a law against shooting a lawyer in the head lol.

Not to mention he's skipped town on bail, for allegedly killing Whalen.

Then there is the guy he killed to fake his own death.  And the two human smugglers.

 

[dhockster]

Okay, so did everyone see the final scene after the producer credits? A black and white shot of Jimmy and Kim's empty living room of their apartment. Then we hear Jimmy/Saul/Gene say from presumably the other room (and I am forgetting exactly what he said) something to the effect of it's good to be back here again in the form of a question. The fact that it is in black and white suggests it is probably Gene talking (all his scenes were in black and white) and the fact that he is apparently asking a question to someone suggests he is not alone. The only person it makes sense that he would be asking that question to, is Kim. So my thought is that Kim survives BCS, is in hiding during BB, and Gene reunites with her at the very end of the series.

 

[PhillipPhoto]

Okay, so did everyone see the final scene after the producer credits? A black and white shot of Jimmy and Kim's empty living room of their apartment. Then we hear Jimmy/Saul/Gene say from presumably the other room (and I am forgetting exactly what he said) something to the effect of it's good to be back here again in the form of a question. The fact that it is in black and white suggests it is probably Gene talking (all his scenes were in black and white) and the fact that he is apparently asking a question to someone suggests he is not alone. The only person it makes sense that he would be asking that question to, is Kim. So my thought is that Kim survives BCS, is in hiding during BB, and Gene reunites with her at the very end of the series.

"So...after all that. A happy ending."

Link

 

[dhockster]

"So...after all that. A happy ending."

Link

Thanks for finding that. So doesn't that hint that Gene and Kim end up together when this is all done?

 

[PhillipPhoto]

Thanks for finding that. So doesn't that hint that Gene and Kim end up together when this is all done?

I still think Kim is done.  If not physically, mentally.  It's all fun and games until someone dies.

I don't see how you reconcile her character never even mentioned in BB.  I still think the bottle top falling into the gutter is her, not Jimmy.  She's the one that kept it as a memento. 

Interesting how it's back at their apartment though, and what that means with the lavish house shown in the opening to episode 1.  I suppose Saul always kept the apartment.

Who knows!?!?!

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Thanks for finding that. So doesn't that hint that Gene and Kim end up together when this is all done?

I doubt the creators are looking to spoil the resolution of the entire series via a 10-second teaser with seven episodes to go. It’s probably an out-of-context Saul quote from one of the remaining episodes

 

[dhockster]

I doubt the creators are looking to spoil the resolution of the entire series via a 10-second teaser with seven episodes to go. It’s probably an out-of-context Saul quote from one of the remaining episodes

Not spoil, but hint at. I agree though, the happy ending I am imagining is a little to easy. I do think that was the last scene of the series, but the happy ending is not what we imagine it is.

 

[dhockster]

Maybe the final scene is Gene and Wendy the hooker together:

"So...after all that. A happy ending."

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Food for thought. We know Mike Head guys on Jimmy and Kim, now he said he pulled them off non-essential targets once the got the call from Lalo but I wonder if Jimmy/Kim are non-essential.  If not then they know where Lalo is right now…..

That was my read. He clearly wanted to get Mike to reallocate his men. My initial thought was that he was specifically targeting J&K, but @Desert_Power made a good point about the cockroach inspiring him. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

Maybe the final scene is Gene and Wendy the hooker together:

"So...after all that. A happy ending."

good angle, but it's close to why ive always thought Kim had to be dead for Saul Goodman to be who he was in Breaking Bad.

i'm a widower who was largely ruined for other women by his lost 1true and, as a result, have talked often and at length with other widowers ruined for other women by their lost 1true. well, if you still got a lotta life left and some yank in your crank, you wanna get it took care of with as little fuss, muss and care as possible and, most especially, without having to feel the depth that you know will be but a shadow of what it was. ive always sensed Saul to have more sexual resignation than pure horniness in his approach to happy endings and understand it (tho didnt use pros) as of a fellow widower

 

[DA RAIDERS]

ETA: and Kim has to die now. she's Jesse Pinkman from here on out - racked with dread over bringing death into her world, except with far more scruples than JP ever had. she watches old movies - killers must die. she must take Lalo out,. save Slippin' Jimmy cuz he's lucky enough not to suffer like like she does and bring honor back into her last breath

She’s always had to die. And it’s always had to be sauls fault. Jimmy needs to feel pain. Nothing will cause him more. I thought it was going to be her last night.  So close. 

 

[Desert_Power]

ETA: and Kim has to die now. she's Jesse Pinkman from here on out - racked with dread over bringing death into her world, except with far more scruples than JP ever had. she watches old movies - killers must die. she must take Lalo out,. save Slippin' Jimmy cuz he's lucky enough not to suffer like like she does and bring honor back into her last breath

Love the Jesse Pinkman compare because of how much this episode resembles the great "Dead Freight" episode from Breaking Bad. A tense episode where a complex and dangerous plan that actually works despite you always expecting something to derail it (ha). Our protagonists are elated, until one gun shot changes it all. Todd shooting Drew Sharpe breaks Jesse and I think something similar happens inside of Kim there.

Another comparison I like is Hank and Howard. Both characters that have changed a lot over the series in the eyes of the audience. Rewatching each show it is notable how much more unlikable each comes off than in later seasons. Both actors were so good it almost seemed to force the writers to be more sympathetic to them.

Up until Hank gets shot in "Ozymandias", there was still a plausible way Breaking Bad ended short of total doom. There was no way back for Walt after that. Howard's death finally collides the lawyer plot with the cartel plot in a way that Saul and Kim will not be able to salvage. Even if they find a way to disappear or stage the body, too many people know of their scheme.

Honestly it is hard to see how Saul even makes it to the character we meet in Breaking Bad at this pace. Going to be a fascinating and devastating last 6 episodes.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

She’s always had to die. And it’s always had to be sauls fault. Jimmy needs to feel pain. Nothing will cause him more. I thought it was going to be her last night.  So close. 

Your bloodthirst for Kim is, in a way, admirable 

Shoutout to Patrick Fabian for his work as Howard. This would have been an easy role to butcher, but he was fantastic.

 

[Major]

Food for thought. We know Mike had guys on Jimmy and Kim, now he said he pulled them off non-essential targets once the got the call from Lalo but I wonder if Jimmy/Kim are non-essential.  If not then they know where Lalo is right now…..

My thought is  if they were watching and protecting Kim/Saul, Lalo would be taken out during his approach.  

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Your bloodthirst for Kim is, in a way, admirable 

Shoutout to Patrick Fabian for his work as Howard. This would have been an easy role to butcher, but he was fantastic.

He really was great!

and

 

[Major]

Shoutout to Patrick Fabian for his work as Howard. This would have been an easy role to butcher, but he was fantastic.

Yeah, his character really grew on me as time went on.  Great performance. 

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Another comparison I like is Hank and Howard. Both characters that have changed a lot over the series in the eyes of the audience. Rewatching each show it is notable how much more unlikable each comes off than in later seasons. Both actors were so good it almost seemed to force the writers to be more sympathetic to them.

That's a good comp. Both started out seeming like cartoon characters, but grew into really well-rounded pieces. 

 

[urbanhack]

Food for thought. We know Mike had guys on Jimmy and Kim, now he said he pulled them off non-essential targets once the got the call from Lalo but I wonder if Jimmy/Kim are non-essential.  If not then they know where Lalo is right now…..

Mike told Jimmy not to worry because he had other bigger fish to fry.

 

[Desert_Power]

Shoutout to Patrick Fabian for his work as Howard. This would have been an easy role to butcher, but he was fantastic.

Really great job and awesome acting in that episode. Frantic and indignant Howard melting down like Chuck in the courtroom to disheveled, buzzed Howard just tearing Kim and Jimmy up

 

[joffer]

at least they created a backstory to explain Howard disappearing

 

[dkp993]

My thought is  if they were watching and protecting Kim/Saul, Lalo would be taken out during his approach.  

Maybe.  But their priority is getting Lalo not protection for Saul or Kim.  

 

[dkp993]

Mike told Jimmy not to worry because he had other bigger fish to fry.

Sure.  But he also told Kim his guys would still be following her but that she probably won’t see them doing it.  

 

[Scoresman]

Man, when Lalo first walked in, for a split second I thought he was somehow connected to Howard and they both came over to execute Saul and Kim.

 

[The Noid]

Kim survives and we get a third show in the BB universe, a half-hour sitcom set during the BB years where she goes by her alias Giselle Saint Claire and lives in Wisconsin as a live-in nanny: "The Eau Claire Au Pair"

 

[Scoresman]

I am not convinced we will see a Gus/Lalo resolution.  What if Lalo survives and lives through the BB timeline, which could explain a) why Saul was scared to death in thinking Lalo had sent Walt and Jesse when they first kidnapped him, and b) why Gene is scared to death of being recognized in Nebraska, as he knows Lalo is still alive and may find him. 

Gene is scared to death of being recognized because there was a nationwide manhunt for him.  He's scared of getting caught by the feds, not necessarily the cartel.  

I don't think there's any way for Lalo to be alive after BCS,  but there's also a whole half a season left and something beyond Lalo showing up at Gus' doorstep has to happen.  The question we need to be asking is why is Lalo going back to Saul/Kim?  If it's to grill them more about the bail money fiasco, how does that benefit him? Maybe proof that Mike and ultimately Gus was involved in averting the theft of the cash?

My gut tells me Lalo dies, but to throw a wrench in it, it'll be by Don Eladio's hands.  Let's not forget all the money Gus makes the cartel.  Gus could easily manipulate the cartel in seeing Lalo as a huge liability.  This also avoids the all out war that obviously never happens if Gus were to just outright kill Lalo.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

It's pretty clear that something is going to happen in the Gene-verse by the end of the show, so what will it be? The pat answer is that Jimmy and Kim discover they've both been living under assumed names and she manages the Chick-Fil-A next door to the Cinnabon, and they live happily ever after. Or maybe he returns to ABQ. Or maybe some other character from BCS manages to track him down. But I suspect that whatever happens, Jimmy's going to have a price to pay after all those years as Saul

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Really great job and awesome acting in that episode. Frantic and indignant Howard melting down like Chuck in the courtroom to disheveled, buzzed Howard just tearing Kim and Jimmy up

He was great.  And it was cool how Howard really figured out the entire scheme -- but it didn't matter.

 

[identikit]

Man, when Lalo first walked in, for a split second I thought he was somehow connected to Howard and they both came over to execute Saul and Kim.

Howard didn't have killing in him

 

[Jaysus]

Howard didn't have killing in him

If he did, his wife would have been done for after spilling the coffee on the counter and leaving without cleaning it up, amirite?

 

[offdee]

If he did, his wife would have been done for after spilling the coffee on the counter and leaving without cleaning it up, amirite?

Damnit B, did you not even appreciate the creamy peace sign I made for you?!?!   ulls out the 9:

 

[Wingnut]

Just watched. Holy ####.

Blood on the painting, big blood spot on the coffee table where Howard whacked his head on his way down...

What a mess. I wonder if Jimmy calls Mike for cleanup.

 

[Capella]

Amazing television. That last scene was as good as it gets. The candle blowing when Lalo walked in… chef’s kiss

 

[TheAristocrat]

The candle blowing when Lalo walked in… chef’s kiss

Loved it.  There were only cuss words not allowed here in that moment in my mind.  Masterpiece.

This was another "I thought I really liked this series" moments until they took it up a level and I enjoyed it more.  Plenty of those but still, awesome stuff.  

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Amazing television. That last scene was as good as it gets. The candle blowing when Lalo walked in… chef’s kiss

Loved it.  There were only cuss words not allowed here in that moment in my mind.  Masterpiece.

This was another "I thought I really liked this series" moments until they took it up a level and I enjoyed it more.  Plenty of those but still, awesome stuff.  

What I loved about it, was I thought it was lalo, the first time the candle flickered. 

 

[jobarules]

Ok this may be the dumbest question ever but why does Lalo want to kill Saul/Kim?

 

[Dezbelief]

Ok this may be the dumbest question ever but why does Lalo want to kill Saul/Kim?

We don't know that Lalo wants to kill Saul and Kim at this time. Lalo wants proof to bring to Don Eladio that the chicken man is building a super lab North of the border. Saul and Kim are currently assets to that end. Lalo was simply protecting assets by killing Howard who just said his life's work was to professionally harm those assets.

What I loved about it, was I thought it was lalo, the first time the candle flickered. 

My take was the candle flickered when Lalo entered the apartment which coincides with Howard's knocking. The candle flickers again when Lalo enters the living  room. 

 

[Galileo]

We don't know that Lalo wants to kill Saul and Kim at this time. Lalo wants proof to bring to Don Eladio that the chicken man is building a super lab North of the border. Saul and Kim are currently assets to that end. Lalo was simply protecting assets by killing Howard who just said his life's work was to professionally harm those assets.

Agreed.  Lalo knows Saul has connections to Gus and Mike.  For now, he want Saul alive.  Kim on the other hand is probably expendable from Lalo's perspective which, for now, leaves open the door to taking her out.  I don't really see that happening though, so it will be interesting to see how they wiggle out of the current moment.  

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Just watched.  That was an incredible episode (after a fairly bad one).  Whoever the actor is for Howard crushed it this season.  Lalo and Kim have to disappear.  That's all that's left to the season.  I assume Lalo dies, but how.  Kim may or may not.  I like me some Rhea S so hopefully she makes it.

 

[Capella]

I think this lays out multiple potential outcomes for Kim 

- she gets murdered by whomever, likely Lalo

- somehow she ends up in prison for Howard’s death 

- she has a crisis of conscience, says she can’t do this or be around ABQ anymore and goes back to the Midwest to start her life over. This may be the safest route, so that’s probably out lol 

- she gets sent to the vacuum cleaner guy, I don’t see this happening, it’s too convenient after it’s been established as an out for Walt and Saul 

 

[pantherclub]

I think this lays out multiple potential outcomes for Kim 

- she gets murdered by whomever, likely Lalo

- somehow she ends up in prison for Howard’s death 

- she has a crisis of conscience, says she can’t do this or be around ABQ anymore and goes back to the Midwest to start her life over. This may be the safest route, so that’s probably out lol 

- she gets sent to the vacuum cleaner guy, I don’t see this happening, it’s too convenient after it’s been established as an out for Walt and Saul 

They will use the money from lalo to pay for it

 

[jamny]

I have thought for a while now that Lalo would kill Kim but now, after killing Howard, I don't think the writers would have him kill both.

 

[need2know]

Your bloodthirst for Kim is, in a way, admirable 

Shoutout to Patrick Fabian for his work as Howard. This would have been an easy role to butcher, but he was fantastic.

agree. i kinda liked howard.  remind me why they hated him so much?   Obv the prior history at HHM.  is that all?

 

[need2know]

Just watched.  That was an incredible episode (after a fairly bad one).  Whoever the actor is for Howard crushed it this season.  Lalo and Kim have to disappear.  That's all that's left to the season.  I assume Lalo dies, but how.  Kim may or may not.  I like me some Rhea S so hopefully she makes it.

im guessing mike gets Lalo

 

[Brunell4MVP]

im guessing mike gets Lalo

Agree. 

Kim I've expected to do the vacuum cleaner thing all along.  And if that's the way it goes it's a decent story.  But like someone said it seems too convenient.   Hopefully there is a wrinkle and we get a surprise.   Like she's gone away and promised to meet him at the Cinnabon at some unplanned time.  And that's why he's still working there.