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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)

Seems like the "stay with us" offer from the hospital cop should have at least been considered. Rick would step into the vacated leader role and make some changes.

It's relatively safe, they have generators, and the potential to help people. Sounds pretty appealing.

But they just saw Beth get shot in the head, so I understand walking away.
I agree, I mean most of the crew is starting to realize that this is all there is, not sure what the impetus is to keep moving.

 
Did anyone else notice, or find interesting, that at the beginning of the episode, when Rick runs down Bob and Bob says, "I don't know you, but I am beginning to understand." Then Bob Dies.

Cut to the end of the episode, Beth says, "I understand now (sic)" and then she dies.

 
TWD is beating Sunday night football in the ratings (or at least did for the three weeks Oct. 26 - Nov. 9). Why would anybody involved in its production be ready to wind it down? I read somewhere that television networks like making money.

 
I know the theme of the show is how this new world brings out all the evil in survivors...but I'm getting tired of all the mustache twirling bad guys each week. I would be much more interested in how they survive, grow, find others and even cure this outbreak then moving from bad guy to bad guy every week,

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Rick's mindset is pretty clear - if you mess with someone in his "family" he's going to take you down. If someone else from the group is around there's a chance he can be talked down but on his own he's taking action.

The parallels between Rick and Gareth run deeper than the "Can't go back Bob" line. Gareth, like Rick, was seemingly a good person but when pushed to the brink his nature changed. Rick hasn't gone all cannibal (well other than biting a guy in the neck) but he's clearly become a product of his environment and everything he's been through.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Rick used Gareth's line. Just like it wasn't a coincidence that their roles were literally reversed in the church when Gareth was on his knees in front of Rick after Rick had been on his knees in Terminus. I think a big part of this season is finding out just who Rick is, what he's capable of doing and whether there's still any connection to the man he used to be.

 
Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.
This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.
The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.
He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.
Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.
Will just bump my post from after season 4 as I feel we are right back where we started.

S5A was pretty good on it's own but looking at the bigger picture again, I am just overall disappointed we don't have an end to the show in sight.
HINT: There is no end in sight. Not for these characters. Why would there be for the viewers?
Show needs to end at some point, no?

 
They better add another hot chick in the second half of the season. We are dangerously low on them now.
Solid addition (spoiler kinda)
Yea.. that will do :)
Please let her be cast in the possible part I just posted about.
Nice. She played the hot young maid on the first season of American Horror Story.
The one who fooled around with Mena Suvari?

This could have some serious possibilities.

 
I know the theme of the show is how this new world brings out all the evil in survivors...but I'm getting tired of all the mustache twirling bad guys each week. I would be much more interested in how they survive, grow, find others and even cure this outbreak then moving from bad guy to bad guy every week,
You need to listen to Beth then. "This is it. That's all there is."

Most people have found their survival groups. If you're walking into a community that isn't some sort of government-operated disaster relief area, bad stuff is probably going to happen.

 
I know the theme of the show is how this new world brings out all the evil in survivors...but I'm getting tired of all the mustache twirling bad guys each week. I would be much more interested in how they survive, grow, find others and even cure this outbreak then moving from bad guy to bad guy every week,
You need to listen to Beth then. "This is it. That's all there is."

Most people have found their survival groups. If you're walking into a community that isn't some sort of government-operated disaster relief area, bad stuff is probably going to happen.
I get that and some of it is fun...but at some point IMO the show needs to get away from constant bad guys and more towards survival and even a zombie war ala WWZ to take back the land....this is glorified batman with a new special guest villain every few weeks.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.

 
I know the theme of the show is how this new world brings out all the evil in survivors...but I'm getting tired of all the mustache twirling bad guys each week. I would be much more interested in how they survive, grow, find others and even cure this outbreak then moving from bad guy to bad guy every week,
You need to listen to Beth then. "This is it. That's all there is."Most people have found their survival groups. If you're walking into a community that isn't some sort of government-operated disaster relief area, bad stuff is probably going to happen.
I get that and some of it is fun...but at some point IMO the show needs to get away from constant bad guys and more towards survival and even a zombie war ala WWZ to take back the land....this is glorified batman with a new special guest villain every few weeks.
This is my main gripe as well but according to the comic readers this IS the core of the narrative. There is no larger goal. Just survival and revealing the nature of humanity when all hell breaks loose.
 
^^^ Also, that's why it was so important to find out at the CDC that 'they are all infected.' There's no real hope.

 
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Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.
This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.
The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.
He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.
Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.
Will just bump my post from after season 4 as I feel we are right back where we started.

S5A was pretty good on it's own but looking at the bigger picture again, I am just overall disappointed we don't have an end to the show in sight.
HINT: There is no end in sight. Not for these characters. Why would there be for the viewers?
Show needs to end at some point, no?
Sure.. when the ratings start to take a nose dive, or the lead characters decide they want to move on, then they will try to figure out a "end game"..

Until that point comes, and currently there is no end in sight to the insanely high ratings, the show will continue to follow this group on their survival.. :popcorn:

 
^^^ Also, that's why it was so important to find out at the CDC that 'they are all infected.' There's no real hope.
The writers stated in an interview a week or so back that they regret having the guy at the CDC reveal that when it was.. Hindsight being 20/20 they would have held that fact in check for another year or two to give the characters hope and have them figure it out on their own.. :shrug:

 
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I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
I think the evolution of Rick's character is one of the strongest elements of the series. I think the question of whether he has any redeeming qualities or if he can be the man he once was or if he's just on a straight line to hell is very fascinating. I love what they're doing with Rick and Lincoln is outstanding in the role.

 
Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.
This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.
The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.
He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.
Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.
Will just bump my post from after season 4 as I feel we are right back where we started.

S5A was pretty good on it's own but looking at the bigger picture again, I am just overall disappointed we don't have an end to the show in sight.
HINT: There is no end in sight. Not for these characters. Why would there be for the viewers?
Show needs to end at some point, no?
Sure.. when the ratings start to take a nose dive, or the lead characters decide they want to move on, then they will try to figure out a "end game"..

Until that point comes, and currently there is no end in sight to the insanely high ratings, the show will continue to follow this group on their survival.. :popcorn:
Right,

Was hoping we got to end the show on a good note instead of 8 seasons of Dexter where the end was unwatchable.

 
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I was just starting to like Beth's character, because she finally started showing some back bone, instead of just showing weird emotions as in past seasons. She also started showing how smart she was and I would have like to have see some more of that. I think they made a mistake by getting rid of her too soon after developing her character in a positive way.

 
If you're looking for an end game or demanding to see one right now I think you're asking for the show to be something other than it is and always has been. This isn't "Lost" where everyone's trying to get off the island or even "Breaking Bad" where the lead character has a fatal illness and will eventually die. This is a show about survival and in theory it could gone on forever. It obviously won't because all shows end eventually but as I posted before, given the success of the show it's doubtful anyone is planning for that right now.

I've always thought that day will come when/if Andrew Lincoln decides he doesn't want to do the show anymore. Other shows like "The X-Files" and even "The Office" tried to go on after the lead character left and the results were pretty horrible for the most part. I'd like to think Kirkman and everyone involved would want to avoid a similar fate if Lincoln decides it's time to call it a day.

 
From what I know about the comics there is no end game. Haven't they been going on for 10 years? If so, I don't think the show needs to be heading down that road anytime soon. Given its immense popularity and (in my opinion) the continued strength of the storytelling I don't think the show needs to have an end game in mind right now. At some point that will be necessary since no show lasts forever. But this has always been a show about daily survival. Given the format, there's no reason for the writers to be concerned about how it should end right now in my opinion or preparing the groundwork for any of that.
Soap opera for men.

 
So when Rick first meets with the cops and proposes the prisoner exchange I guess Daryl and Sasha became invisible? :lmao:
Really? Go away, there are any number of explanations for that. If you want to complain, complain about how Dawn's gun was hollered when Beth stabbed her yet it suddenly was in her hand and went off "accidentally". Not to mention the makeup job for the bullet hole, to of the head? Wouldn't it be under her chin based on the angle?But that Daryl and Dasha aren't in the camera shot on top of the garage from below its really petty. So are the two things I posted, really, they don't really bother me, just two things I noticed.
Oh come on. There is no way those two would be visible just behind Rick. It's just lazy directing/editing.
So what? And I'm assuming you meant "wouldn't". It's immaterial to the episode.
Yes "wouldn't ". Never said it was important to the plot but just another example of how sloppy this show is.
Again so what? Why bother posting it expect to get a reaction? I don't see this as sloppy, there are any number of reasons they weren't in that shot.
name one
Not gonna go down that road with you, I've fed the "troll" too long. You'll just dispute any reason I post anyways.
Just admit that you can't come up with one.
they ducked

 
From what I know about the comics there is no end game. Haven't they been going on for 10 years? If so, I don't think the show needs to be heading down that road anytime soon. Given its immense popularity and (in my opinion) the continued strength of the storytelling I don't think the show needs to have an end game in mind right now. At some point that will be necessary since no show lasts forever. But this has always been a show about daily survival. Given the format, there's no reason for the writers to be concerned about how it should end right now in my opinion or preparing the groundwork for any of that.
Soap opera for men.
That was the exact word i used when the show ended last night for me,

Feels like a soap

 
From what I know about the comics there is no end game. Haven't they been going on for 10 years? If so, I don't think the show needs to be heading down that road anytime soon. Given its immense popularity and (in my opinion) the continued strength of the storytelling I don't think the show needs to have an end game in mind right now. At some point that will be necessary since no show lasts forever. But this has always been a show about daily survival. Given the format, there's no reason for the writers to be concerned about how it should end right now in my opinion or preparing the groundwork for any of that.
Soap opera for men.
That was the exact word i used when the show ended last night for me,

Feels like a soap
George Romero agrees with you guys for what it's worth.

 
If they follow the comics, an arch villian is coming. The Gareth/LadyCop weren't even in the comics though... so hopefully they wait a while before getting to the next one. Its going to get stale imo if they don't.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
It was mercy at that point.
yes ...you`re the only one...thats scene ROCKED
:thumbup:

Just about every scene with Rick being a badass has been gold this season.
And im assuming he was shot in the face / head...they didnt show that although his gun was trained on the face...he could have shot him in the chest so he comes back as a walker ... that would be a #### move while also adding to the problems that they have with walkers .

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
####, in Germany attempting to escape prison is not a crime. It's considered a basic instinct to try and be free.

Rick is an #######.

 
Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.
This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.
The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.
He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.
Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.
Will just bump my post from after season 4 as I feel we are right back where we started.

S5A was pretty good on it's own but looking at the bigger picture again, I am just overall disappointed we don't have an end to the show in sight.
HINT: There is no end in sight. Not for these characters. Why would there be for the viewers?
Show needs to end at some point, no?
Yes, but it could very well end with them continuing to meander, looking for something better that they'll never find.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer street judge handing out justice.I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing who kidnapped two people lied to you in an attempt to get you killed, perhaps murdered Sasha and was trying to escape and perhaps cause your death)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him fighting with a guy on a street full of walkers, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street waste a bullet? After dumb ### refuses to stop running him over with your his car ? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
I actually laughed when D bag said his back was broken and to take him to the hospital, "Oh yeah buddy NOW you want a ride." Boo Hoo.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
####, in Germany attempting to escape prison is not a crime. It's considered a basic instinct to try and be free.

Rick is an #######.
If two members of his 'family' weren't being held captive by his people he would have let him go.

It was harsh what he did but Rick did what needed to be done.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
####, in Germany attempting to escape prison is not a crime. It's considered a basic instinct to try and be free.

Rick is an #######.
If two members of his 'family' weren't being held captive by his people he would have let him go.

It was harsh what he did but Rick did what needed to be done.
Really? Simply bringing him back wouldn't have also done the trick? He was cuffed and unarmed. Pretty much inexcusable to shoot him at that point. He wasn't remotely a threat, and wouldn't have been their problem in another hour.

 
The one thing I don't understand is why Beth did what she did. That seemed so out of place. Ok you are all distraught and emotional but when you essentially see for lack of a better word 'your family" show up after you thought they were all dead and then you hate some lady you have been with for a couple of week enough to not even say hi to everyone? And you hug Noah? then you stick the lady with some tweezers? Really.

The Beth death scene is perhaps the worst moment so far. That was really terrible. That was a serious what the #### moment.

 
Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.
This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.
The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.
He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.
Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.
Will just bump my post from after season 4 as I feel we are right back where we started.

S5A was pretty good on it's own but looking at the bigger picture again, I am just overall disappointed we don't have an end to the show in sight.
HINT: There is no end in sight. Not for these characters. Why would there be for the viewers?
Show needs to end at some point, no?
Yes, but it could very well end with them continuing to meander, looking for something better that they'll never find.
That would be fine and what i expect the final episode to be like.

I was just hoping for some closure soon before the show got unwatchable.

 
Lets get to a place where we start to find out what might have caused this. Maybe have them mutate or them find a different horde. I know the creators of the show have said this isn't a show about zombies but it seems we are in a rut with the stab to the head being about all we see or know of the zombies right now.

I'm not wanting to recreate anything but the last big news along the lines of what I am talking about was learning that everyone was already infected.
This is what I am talking about. Yea, in an apocalypse I understand people would be buttwads. But dangit, they made the theme zombies. Use them as something other than an excuse for people to be ####ty to each other.
The theme isn't zombies, the setting is zombies. Big difference.
He has a point. The show can get stuck in a rut where the group meets a new group, has a conflict with them, and then win while maybe absorbing a few new members. They've done it with the CDC, the farm, the prison, woodbury, woodbury part 2 with the tank, the "claimed" group, and now probably Terminus as well. They need to change something up. Its why I predict next season will see different factions within the Terminus group and one of them will open the boxcar and let Rick's group escape. Its the same story repeated.
Yep.

This is where the show has lost some flavor for me.

After 4 seasons were still in the "find a place to set up camp, settle in and survive day/day mode"

Would like to see a means to an end somewhat....A long term plan the show can lead us to an end. Whether someone say let's find an island and put our roots down and start a new world. You can get a couple more seasons of them trekking to the coast or whatever with some more drama along the way or a means to an end with a cure. Perhaps this is mullet dude angle.

The comics throws this off for me because I don't know what their plan for the show is in relation to the comics.

The show is in total cash cow mode now so it wouldn't shock me if they want to ride this for 4 more seasons and just continue repeating similar storylines,

I would be fine with it IF they were pressing towards an end but they are like Moses in the dessert with the Jews for 40 years. Lot's of roaming around going nowhere and a lot of btiching and complaining.
Will just bump my post from after season 4 as I feel we are right back where we started.

S5A was pretty good on it's own but looking at the bigger picture again, I am just overall disappointed we don't have an end to the show in sight.
HINT: There is no end in sight. Not for these characters. Why would there be for the viewers?
Show needs to end at some point, no?
Yes, but it could very well end with them continuing to meander, looking for something better that they'll never find.
That would be fine and what i expect the final episode to be like.

I was just hoping for some closure soon before the show got unwatchable.
It's a great show right now and that's all that matters. Why rush the stove?

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
You know, other than the whole 'protecting the family' thing. Except that.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
####, in Germany attempting to escape prison is not a crime. It's considered a basic instinct to try and be free.

Rick is an #######.
If two members of his 'family' weren't being held captive by his people he would have let him go.

It was harsh what he did but Rick did what needed to be done.
Really? Simply bringing him back wouldn't have also done the trick? He was cuffed and unarmed. Pretty much inexcusable to shoot him at that point. He wasn't remotely a threat, and wouldn't have been their problem in another hour.
He tried to get the guy to give up. That's what he was saying over the radio. But he couldn't let the cop get back to the hospital. So he ran him down.

At that point, I thought the guy said, "I think you broke my neck." That guy was toast in the new world.

 
I guess im the only one who didnt like rick basically murdering a guy in handcuffs.
Said that while we were watching it. He's basically just a cold-blooded murderer. I mean really, you kidnap a guy (a fellow cop in a past life, mind you, so they supposedly had the whole brotherhood thing)...but you kidnap a guy, and he pulls a fast one to try and escape. Understandable right? But instead of just recapturing him and holding him, you shoot him point-blank in the head in the middle of the street? After running him over with your car? Seems like Rick has skipped the whole anti-hero aspect that was so powerful in Soprano/Draper/White and gone straight to #####. I don't see very many redeeming qualities about Rick, and I think it brings the show down from what it could be.
####, in Germany attempting to escape prison is not a crime. It's considered a basic instinct to try and be free.

Rick is an #######.
If two members of his 'family' weren't being held captive by his people he would have let him go.

It was harsh what he did but Rick did what needed to be done.
Really? Simply bringing him back wouldn't have also done the trick? He was cuffed and unarmed. Pretty much inexcusable to shoot him at that point. He wasn't remotely a threat, and wouldn't have been their problem in another hour.
He tried to get the guy to give up. That's what he was saying over the radio. But he couldn't let the cop get back to the hospital. So he ran him down.

At that point, I thought the guy said, "I think you broke my neck." That guy was toast in the new world.
It was his back, but the right thing to do would be to trade him back to a FULLY FUNCTIONING HOSPITAL where he could have received treatment.

It would have been on the hospital folks to deny treatment and 'resolve' the problem if they felt it necessary.

 

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