***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[mad sweeney]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

 

[Copeman]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

 

[mad sweeney]

Well if it's such a huge moment, how is the fact that he made his choice inhumanely irrelevant? On one hand you make it into such a revealing character moment with massive impact on the future of the character but then you ignore HOW he did it as if that has no bearing on this momentous turning point for the character. That just makes zero sense to me.

I'm not ignoring how he did it. He killed Otis. THAT'S the decision he made. You're so focused on where the bullet entered you're ignoring the fact that Otis was dead no matter what the second Shane made his decision. And it's the fact Shane was willing to sacrifice someone to save his own life that makes it such a significant moment in the show's history and clearly with regard to his character.

I'm not ignoring that at all, I'm passed that and working on how that decision affects his character. As I said earlier, before the reveal I thought that Otis had done the "noble suicide" and shot himself so Shane could escape, since they made such a point to say several times that he felt responsible for the boy. However, what happened was, as pointed out, a giant moment for Shane's character development. Yes, one of them had to die and be zombie bait. Yes, Shane made the decision to kill Otis, in part for Carl/Lori and in part for sheer selfishness. But to consider it a big moment for the character yet completely ignore or dismiss how he did it is completely contradictory.

 

[mad sweeney]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

 

[packersfan]

Well if it's such a huge moment, how is the fact that he made his choice inhumanely irrelevant? On one hand you make it into such a revealing character moment with massive impact on the future of the character but then you ignore HOW he did it as if that has no bearing on this momentous turning point for the character. That just makes zero sense to me.

I'm not ignoring how he did it. He killed Otis. THAT'S the decision he made. You're so focused on where the bullet entered you're ignoring the fact that Otis was dead no matter what the second Shane made his decision. And it's the fact Shane was willing to sacrifice someone to save his own life that makes it such a significant moment in the show's history and clearly with regard to his character.

I'm not ignoring that at all, I'm passed that and working on how that decision affects his character. As I said earlier, before the reveal I thought that Otis had done the "noble suicide" and shot himself so Shane could escape, since they made such a point to say several times that he felt responsible for the boy. However, what happened was, as pointed out, a giant moment for Shane's character development. Yes, one of them had to die and be zombie bait. Yes, Shane made the decision to kill Otis, in part for Carl/Lori and in part for sheer selfishness. But to consider it a big moment for the character yet completely ignore or dismiss how he did it is completely contradictory.

I'm not ignoring what he did. He sacrificed Otis to save himself. I'm clearly aware of that. I'm not ignoring or dismissing anything. This has become a circular argument. I really can't add more to what I've said. You disagree and that's cool. I loved the episode, was shocked by what Shane did and can't wait for next Sunday night.

 

[Copeman]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I wonder if live bait is better than dead bait. A screaming, writhing, plump Otis may attract 100% of the zombies, where a dead Otis may only attract a half dozen.

That seemed pretty apparent to me. Shooting Otis was a huge character development. How he shot him or where he shot him, to me, is irrelevant. It's all about the line Shane crossed and how it will impact him going forward.

That's what we've been saying now for what 2 or 3 pages? Mad apparently thinks that's cruel and unusual punishment. I say it was the smart, logical thing to do.

 

[mad sweeney]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

Well, you've certainly made this thread better! Here's a hint though, I was mocking you when I did it so your kettle thing is as useless as the rest of your posts.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

 

[Froglova]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

Question for you. Do you think what Shane did was cruel and selfish because of the standards we live under. Or do the standards of what is and what isn't acceptable change in zombie infested world?Side theory question....The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

 

[Walton Goggins]

Shane isn't all that evil yet. By killing Otis he saved not only himself but Carl as well. It was a 2 for 1.

Shooting Otis isn't all that bad. It's understandable, though cold blooded. Shooting him in the leg so that he can still fight for the backpack, oh, and still be tortured to death and eaten alive along with being reanimated possibly is completely and utterly and irredeemably cruel.

I agree with others that he needed to be shot but not killed. He only has to suffer for another 30 seconds and it assured his life. One mistake though is not offering to take the pack prior to shooting him.

You guys are nuts. He only had to be bitten to death by a dozen mouths and have his guts ripped out while he's dying. He obviously wasn't a fan of the plan. It wasn't a practical move by Shane, it was a despicable, cruel and selfish move.

At this point, who gives a ####. Shane killed him via zombies. Enough with the round and round arguments on the merits of alternative methods of killing the guy and whether or not it was a ####ty thing to do. We all know where you stand on the issue. Repeating your point multiple times is just a PITA. Move on.

Well, the people posting about it give a ####. It's real easy to pass up posts you don't want to read. I know you feel, I could be much happier with less whining posts. I think shooting him in the leg vs the head is a massive character building point.

I wonder if live bait is better than dead bait. A screaming, writhing, plump Otis may attract 100% of the zombies, where a dead Otis may only attract a half dozen.

I don't. They're all following each other towards the people. They've a herd mentality. When they see a bunch of them feeding and smell the blood they'll dive in. Plus a dead Otis doesn't waste Shane's time fighting over the backpack.

No time to think with all the chaos around them. Shoot, grab the loot and get out of dodge. Sorry Otis.

 

[Copeman]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

Well, you've certainly made this thread better! Here's a hint though, I was mocking you when I did it so your kettle thing is as useless as the rest of your posts.

Good back pedal.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

Dude was pretty overweight, I'd take my chances on Shane. Plus Otis has a lot more mass for zombies to feast off of whereas Shane would be eaten pretty quickly not giving Otis enough time.Either way one had to go, Shane clear choice IMO to carry on over Otis. RIP Otis, RIP.

 

[Usual21]

working on getting the other files up soon. Got kinda crazy this weekend with the loss of power and crazy ### weather here in NJ.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

Dude was pretty overweight, I'd take my chances on Shane. Plus Otis has a lot more mass for zombies to feast off of whereas Shane would be eaten pretty quickly not giving Otis enough time.Either way one had to go, Shane clear choice IMO to carry on over Otis. RIP Otis, RIP.

 

[Froglova]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

Dude was pretty overweight, I'd take my chances on Shane. Plus Otis has a lot more mass for zombies to feast off of whereas Shane would be eaten pretty quickly not giving Otis enough time.Either way one had to go, Shane clear choice IMO to carry on over Otis. RIP Otis, RIP.

Pretty sure in a world of zombies, RIP has no meaning.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

Dude was pretty overweight, I'd take my chances on Shane. Plus Otis has a lot more mass for zombies to feast off of whereas Shane would be eaten pretty quickly not giving Otis enough time.Either way one had to go, Shane clear choice IMO to carry on over Otis. RIP Otis, RIP.

Pretty sure in a world of zombies, RIP has no meaning.

Anything is possible in make believe land.

 

[badmojo1006]

I wonder if Otis is going to show up as a Zombie later in the season

 

[Usual21]

I wonder if Otis is going to show up as a Zombie later in the season

I say no. The zombies tore him APART. I mean guts, limbs, etc. Maybe he's that big fat blob the show in the sewer in the preview?

 

[Usual21]

The Walking Dead #90 is out. Downloading now.

 

[mad sweeney]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

Well, you've certainly made this thread better! Here's a hint though, I was mocking you when I did it so your kettle thing is as useless as the rest of your posts.

Good back pedal.

Backpedal ?

 

[mad sweeney]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

Question for you. Do you think what Shane did was cruel and selfish because of the standards we live under. Or do the standards of what is and what isn't acceptable change in zombie infested world?Side theory question....The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

To the first, what he did is completely wrong no matter what in a pre zombie world. In their current world, yes it's still wrong. But it's a bit of a gray area. My issue with what he did isn't because he shot Otis in order to get away. Forgiveable? Maybe, maybe not. It's wounding him that makes it a completely immoral and irreedemable act. Any argument that it was the most expedient way of dealing with it goes out the window since he had to struggle for the backpack. And any idea that it doesn't matter how he did it goes out the window because the whole scene was revealed while he was hiding evidence of the struggle, which he wouldn't have if he'd killed Otis outright. Shane's guilt is infinitely higher because of how he did it, even in zombie world. You can still be practical while being humane, and we're seeing evidence with others of them keeping to humane methods. That's my point, not that Shane shouldn't have killed him, but that Shane crossed a my h bigger line by only wounding him and letting him get eaten alive.

 

[mad sweeney]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

Or if Otis ran for the truck while the zombies had Shane cornered, instead of saving Shane's ### 5 minutes before Shane shot him in the knee and left him to be eaten alive he'd be back to his lady (or was it mother?).

 

[Slider6]

working on getting the other files up soon. Got kinda crazy this weekend with the loss of power and crazy ### weather here in NJ.

No worries! I still haven't made it through WWZ. Take your time.

 

[mad sweeney]

working on getting the other files up soon. Got kinda crazy this weekend with the loss of power and crazy ### weather here in NJ.

No worries! I still haven't made it through WWZ. Take your time.

I'm re-reading it myself after you mentioned it earlier. Still impressed with how thoroughly he thought through so many aspects of the world wide efforts and effects. It's a nice, lighthearted follow up to my third (and only successful) attempt at Blood Meridian.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Shooting Otis saved this week's episode. Let's get out of the house and off the highway now. TIA.

Next week on The Walking Dead: Dale starts the RV.

 

[SacramentoBob]

In that situation, I'd have shot Otis too. In fact, I wouldn't have brought him in the first place.

 

[mad sweeney]

In that situation, I'd have shot Otis too. In fact, I wouldn't have brought him in the first place.

Then you'd be dead and Otis wouldn't be.

 

[KGB]

There are 2 types of people in this thread.

1 type will be dead as Otis when the zombies really come.

 

[goonsquad]

I wonder if live bait is better than dead bait. A screaming, writhing, plump Otis may attract 100% of the zombies, where a dead Otis may only attract a half dozen.

That seemed pretty apparent to me. Shooting Otis was a huge character development. How he shot him or where he shot him, to me, is irrelevant. It's all about the line Shane crossed and how it will impact him going forward.

What if he shot Otis in the nuts? Would that be irrelevant?

 

[mad sweeney]

There are 2 types of people in this thread.1 type will be dead as Otis when the zombies really come.

You realize this is a TV show, right?

 

[Romulan]

Awesome show! third episode was best one yet.

 

[Clayton Gray]

The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

Pics of the woman?

 

[Socrates11]

oh for crying out loud.......

Outstanding contribution! Can you please stop annoying people with discussion not pertaining to the show. TIA

You're right. Lets talk for another 5 pages about why Shane shot Otis. And keep posting the same opinions over and over and over and over. Thats far better.

It's provoking discussion and it's not distracting away from any other topic being discussed . So quit cluttering the thread with you saying the same thing over and over (you know, the same thing you're mad at me for).

Point me to where I have been doing this. TIA.

See above. You've made your point, now either discuss the show or quit whining about the same thing over and over.

Question for you. Do you think what Shane did was cruel and selfish because of the standards we live under. Or do the standards of what is and what isn't acceptable change in zombie infested world?Side theory question....The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

1. How big are the woman's cans? 2. If you're saying one has to die or both will definitely die, well, better you than me. Sake of the human race has nothing to do with it because let's face it, a man and a woman aren't enough to save it. I think I read somewhere that you need at least 20 couples (20 men, 20 woman) to have a chance. In any event, I would want to live, so the other guy, he has gots to go.

 

[peaces]

third episode was best one yet.

This

 

[beer 30]

The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

Pics of the woman?

 

[Tackling Dummies]

That's my point, not that Shane shouldn't have killed him, but that Shane crossed a much bigger line by only wounding him and letting him get eaten alive.

This. Even Dale had some mercy on the trying-to-commit-suicide zombie.

 

[Froglova]

The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

Pics of the woman?

Pic of the girl...

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

In that situation, I'd have shot Otis too. In fact, I wouldn't have brought him in the first place.

Then you'd be dead and Otis wouldn't be.

It is called packing a sandwich (Otis being the sandwich).

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

For some reason this reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's novel Cat's Cradle when Mona kills herself after finding out what type man John really was.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

That's my point, not that Shane shouldn't have killed him, but that Shane crossed a much bigger line by only wounding him and letting him get eaten alive.

This. Even Dale had some mercy on the trying-to-commit-suicide zombie.

Dale never met the suicide zombie.Daryl and Andrea where the ones who found him hanging. Moreover how can you show mercy to a zombie when they have no emotion?

 

[stbugs]

That's my point, not that Shane shouldn't have killed him, but that Shane crossed a much bigger line by only wounding him and letting him get eaten alive.

This. Even Dale had some mercy on the trying-to-commit-suicide zombie.

Dale never met the suicide zombie.Daryl and Andrea where the ones who found him hanging. Moreover how can you show mercy to a zombie when they have no emotion?

Daryl wasn't showing mercy at all. He, as I think FSM said before and I agree with, is the only level headed guy who seems to remember that all that is important is for humans to live and zombies, when actually dangerous, to die. He shot the zombie because the conflicted girl gave him an answer. Again, this is probably why Daryl is the favorite character so far. He wants to live and I think he also wants as many of his group to live as well. Other than the Harley, I think he thinks and reacts the way we all think these characters should.

 

[Apple Jack]

Shane made the decision to sacrifice Otis to save himself. Selfish dirt bag move in my opinion. Probably thinking of Lori(not Carl) when he grabbed the bag off of Otis too.

Otis to injured and too fat to have carried all that stuff and make it out alive. Shane did the right thing, saving himself and the boy. Survival of the smartest/fittest is the way to go now.

Actually, they were both too slow to make it out alive. If Otis shoots first, maybe he's driving back to his lady.

Dude was pretty overweight, I'd take my chances on Shane. Plus Otis has a lot more mass for zombies to feast off of whereas Shane would be eaten pretty quickly not giving Otis enough time.Either way one had to go, Shane clear choice IMO to carry on over Otis. RIP Otis, RIP.

Not to mention Otis felt responsible for them being their in the first place and had they had been able to freeze time and discuss it, he'd have likely volunteered to die so that Shane could get the stuff back to save the kid.This show was destined to take a nosedive when Frank Darabonte bailed and it most certainly has. It's not good.

 

[packersfan]

This show was destined to take a nosedive when Frank Darabonte bailed and it most certainly has. It's not good.

I disagree. I think it's very good. But my main point is that Season 2 started filming in June. Darabont departed/forced out/fired in July after Comic-Con. Their panel was on July 22. I don't know how many episodes had been filmed by the time Comic Con arrived but it seems possible based on the timeline that Darabont was involved in at least the first 2-3 episodes.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

I wonder if Otis is going to show up as a Zombie later in the season

Maybe Rhighetti will too...

 

[Clayton Gray]

The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

Pics of the woman?

Pic of the girl...

Hmmm. I might let you kill me.

 

[SacramentoBob]

The human race is down to 3 people. 1 woman capable of bearing children. And 2 men. Both men are out scouting for goods when they are surrounded by a pack of zombies. Either one dies and the other goes on to possibly continue the human race with the woman. Or they both die. Is is selfish to shoot the one guy in the leg (assuming alive he will attract more zombies to his screams) or is it selfless to do it for the sake of the human race?

Pics of the woman?

 

[Apple Jack]

This show was destined to take a nosedive when Frank Darabonte bailed and it most certainly has. It's not good.

I disagree. I think it's very good. But my main point is that Season 2 started filming in June. Darabont departed/forced out/fired in July after Comic-Con. Their panel was on July 22. I don't know how many episodes had been filmed by the time Comic Con arrived but it seems possible based on the timeline that Darabont was involved in at least the first 2-3 episodes.

Ok. Then whoever wrote the episodes didn't do a very good job. Whether it was him, or one of the guys he tried to get rid of. I never really thought that highly of the first season, aside form the first couple episodes and mostly watch out of habit and the fact that Boardwalk Empire is the only other show running right now that I watch. Most of the dialogue is terrible. It hasn't come close to keeping up the quality of the first couple episodes, imo.

 

[Walton Goggins]

In that situation, I'd have shot Otis too. In fact, I wouldn't have brought him in the first place.

I would have done the same thing as Shane. You get the guy who is responsible in all of this who is overweight and plus in a bind could use him to divert zombies in a pinch. Plus you'll know he'll do anything for you as well given that he was racked with grief. Well played by Shane.