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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (6 Viewers)
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El Floppo
Footballguy
That's basically it for me. I mentioned in my first comments about this episode. Let's move on and see how they reboot society. Having the same idiotic actions by people has been covered every season.lets see the reboot and wrap it up.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Utility trailers are all over the place around the DC metro area. I would imagine there would be a handful on any 5 mile stretch of I-95. Not to mention, I don't think I have ever driven to work on 66 without seeing one kayak or canoe.
BigJim®
Footballguy
It's disappointing the extent to which writers are stretching to invent ways for the characters to create danger where none (of that sort) exists. There are immeasurable new and unforeseeable external risk possibilities to work from, but instead we get all of our heroes standing on unrealistically weak paned glass. After all of that nonsense, we get a frantic aborted mission, putting the horses in peril, and biting death, when 20 walkers are approaching 12 armed heroes. Michonne clears that herself in 45 seconds, tops.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Yes but if Plot Device didn’t die from getting bit / kicked by a horse then we don’t get the whole Gregory botched murder plot story
the good news is we finally got rid of his character
BigJim®
Footballguy
Disagree. Have an axle break and a crushing, have the horse kick during a fight. There are any number of ways a Hilltopper can logically/unfortunately die in pursuit of a Sanctuary need (story impetus) while towing a museum piece that distance. Having 12 heroes abandon him (not to mention their prize, and horses) in fear of 20 walkers doesn't do it for me. I get defending the what/why, but there is no defense for the how.
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Yep. There should be a surplus of almost everything other than flashlights, batteries, food, bottled beverages and perishable stuff. Maybe seeds and fertilizer would be tough to find if every survivor grabbed them to plant, but still you’d figure you could clean out a suburb town/lead the dead away and have a whole Home Depot and REI to yourself. Only people who’d want a canoe are people that probably already have them. So many people are supposed to be dead that there should be tons of extra stuff. Even scavenging people who boarded before and are now dead.After an apocalypse?? Most of that stuff, other then the seeds, would be almost everywhere..
Unless the Amish, thanks to their non-technical ways, found a way to survive it.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
Too many obvious moments in the show. The kid dying was extremely obvious. Falling through the floor was obvious. Greg trying to screw everything up was obvious. His hanging was a surprise though and I enjoyed it, dude should've been killed long ago.
As for going to the museum in general, I didn't think it was too bad. I understood that they were gathering objects in order to learn from them and make their own. I thought making a canoe would have been an obvious one that they didn't need to take one back but whatever.
Overall I enjoyed parts of it but it fell flat like every episode the last two years.
As for going to the museum in general, I didn't think it was too bad. I understood that they were gathering objects in order to learn from them and make their own. I thought making a canoe would have been an obvious one that they didn't need to take one back but whatever.
Overall I enjoyed parts of it but it fell flat like every episode the last two years.
Underachievers
Footballguy
Haven't watched since the first episode last season. But....are we really expecting a series about flesh eating zombies to be realistic?
Geez, this lame argument. There’s a difference between realistic and stupid.
The canoe was just stupid. It been a few years, but I’m pretty sure fiberglass canoes don’t go bad. I’m OK with making it seem like it’s the 1800s but damn they go from Alexandria to DC and there’s nothing there? I lived there and it’s silly to act like stuff doesn’t exist.
Why would people live in that dark Sanctuary of course with not a single glass plane broke. Seems better to leave and go elsewhere and build a few more houses.
El Floppo
Footballguy
That's a tired response to the criticism we're all mentioning.
Asked and answered ad nauseum- it needs to be realistic and consistent within whatever systems/rules it's established. It's not. And hasn't been for a while. And it uses lazy and dumb writing to create drama and plot points rather than...dunno...sense or smarts.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Snactuary at least is easily defended from zombies. So I get that part, even if the land is apparently infertile.
pantherclub
Footballguy
I didnt get the whole different community angles either. Its not like they are bound there and cannot leave. I kindof dug the exploring part of the show as it would be more realistic of what would really happen. Also I am not sure why they have gone to primitive weapons and not carrying their guns. So the lady that talked like a cave person was a teacher and now she can talk normal but they still didnt explain the helicopter or the lady with the book that showed up. Weird show for sure
Side note-AMC was running the entire series last week and I watched the first couple of episodes. Its funny how they changed how the zombies have behaved. In the first ones the walkers were opening doors, crawling under cars, going up steps etc.
snogger
Footballguy
exactly.. it's been.. Survive as a group, fight some group, survive as a group, fight some new group, survive as a group, etc.... Time to start rebuilding society, which as we've already seen will lead to it's own conflicts.. Maggie and Daryl vs. Rick, HillTop Vs. Sanctuary, etc..
and of course, who can forget Alexandria, the doormat everyone wipes their feet off on as they battle the other communities for supremacy.
First, I think early on they mentioned that they messed up the zombie movement early on. Heck, when Glenn and Rick escaped the department store some of the zombies climbed the chain link fence. Even so, still so much better of a show.
Second, I just realized why no one can move. If they move then they can’t have stupid people (like the folks turning to Rick like he’s a god) and they lose the conflict. You can’t have Maggie and Daryl at odds with Rick if everyone decides to move and the create one big place where everyone is protected by walls (all), has electricity (solar at Alexandria), food (all but Sanctuary) and aren’t jealous/suspicious of other communities. It would be too easy.
I am looking forward to getting past the infighting and getting to the next enemies that looked really cool.
The people in the herds chasing Rosita and Eugene.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Agree the old west wagon and the old canoe were dumb. Should be able to find canoes fairly easily in their travels. As someone mentioned above, trailers shouldn't be too hard to find. Modify them for horses to pull. Greg Nicotero did mention that this show has had a western theme from the beginning with Rick riding the horse into Atlanta. They're trying to get back to some of that with the props. Guess the wagon was part of that. So was the hanging scene at the end with Gregory from the gallows. That was a nice surprise and glad to see him finally gone.
The plowshare was the only part of the plow they really needed. Could build the rest to go with it. Grab it and leave the rest.
I don't have a problem with the story lines of Hilltoppers being frustrated because they're still feeding the sanctuary and getting nothing in return. Nothing has changed for them except for not having the occasional harassment from the saviors. And the sanctuary people aren't used to trying to grow their own food. They're used to hilltop providing and having the ability to take from others. Internal conflicts would naturally come out of that. That story arc doesn't bother me.
Rick has bitten off more than he can chew trying to make Carl's dream come alive and Daryl wants to gather the original group and move on leaving everyone else behind to fend for themselves. I'll keep watching.
The plowshare was the only part of the plow they really needed. Could build the rest to go with it. Grab it and leave the rest.
I don't have a problem with the story lines of Hilltoppers being frustrated because they're still feeding the sanctuary and getting nothing in return. Nothing has changed for them except for not having the occasional harassment from the saviors. And the sanctuary people aren't used to trying to grow their own food. They're used to hilltop providing and having the ability to take from others. Internal conflicts would naturally come out of that. That story arc doesn't bother me.
Rick has bitten off more than he can chew trying to make Carl's dream come alive and Daryl wants to gather the original group and move on leaving everyone else behind to fend for themselves. I'll keep watching.
At least they finally went to the city. I've been complaining about that since they got to Alexandria. Remember when they were starving and scrounging around for Negan and had trouble finding stuff going all the way to Oceanside? Come to find out there is a huge city just 10 miles northeast.
Nice of Maggie to pay homage to Carl with the horrible haircut.
Nice of Maggie to pay homage to Carl with the horrible haircut.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Our family farm (my uncle lives there now) doesn't use them anymore but the old style plows are still around stored in a barn. Tractors took over decades ago but the old tools are still around rusting away. Years ago my wife wanted me to ask if she could take one of the old plows and an old corn kernel stripper with the hand crank (for decorative ideas). I knew what the answer would be but asked anyway. He laughed and told me to get the #### off his property. Well, not quite that but he did laugh.
mozzy84
Footballguy
pretty stupid/boring overall and not a very good premiere compared to a lot of other years. I was trying to figure out who the heck the kid was that got killed, if I was supposed to care or whatever, guess it didn't really matter. Maggie was just looking for an excuse to get rid of Gregory, she jumped on that. Maggie seems like she needs to get laid like carol is, chill the heck out a little.
I'm riding this mess out I guess. Hoping they don't burn 3/4 episodes with them building a bridge.
I'm riding this mess out I guess. Hoping they don't burn 3/4 episodes with them building a bridge.
Copeman
Footballguy
This has been done before, where someone we have never seen before is killed off and the writers I guess think the viewer should feel bad because the actors are grieving. Someone needs to tell the writers it doesn't work like that.
It would have made a much bigger impact if say, Carol was killed and they show the rest of them grieving, and show Daryl. But no, we get yet another red shirt death thrown at us and we're supposed to be all emotional.....
It would have made a much bigger impact if say, Carol was killed and they show the rest of them grieving, and show Daryl. But no, we get yet another red shirt death thrown at us and we're supposed to be all emotional.....
I’m hopeful as well, but we all know this bridge crap will be this season and we’ll see the whisperers in the finale.
I'm going to go with some positives: Glad they jumped forward a little bit. The spider zombie was cool as was the evolution of man zombie.
They are at a point where rebuilding a resemblance of civilization could work and they should focus a lot more on that. Where is the lady from the other civilization that gave them the book? Where is the helicopter? I hope they bring all these things together faster and they don't just waist another season with conflict between themselves and rebuilding a bridge. No more bad group that they have to conquer for a while, that's been done several times over.
They are at a point where rebuilding a resemblance of civilization could work and they should focus a lot more on that. Where is the lady from the other civilization that gave them the book? Where is the helicopter? I hope they bring all these things together faster and they don't just waist another season with conflict between themselves and rebuilding a bridge. No more bad group that they have to conquer for a while, that's been done several times over.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
No Negan at all? Meh
SwampDawg
Footballguy
I was torn if I wanted to come back this year after being pretty disappointed last season. Made it 37 minutes, turned it off and removed from the DVR list. The first few seasonswere great, you never knew who was getting killed of, good plot twists, the last few just feel forced. The final straw was Ezekiel proposing to Carol for me. That was way too forced. Plenty of good Netflix series out there to take up my time.
snogger
Footballguy
Eh.. at this point anything with Negan is just going to be a lot of meaningless
.. Rick will tell him how great things are going, Negan will tell Rick he is ready to lead when Rick fails..
bryhamm
Footballguy
My prediction is Negan is the one who kills Rick this season.Eh.. at this point anything with Negan is just going to be a lot of meaningless
pantherclub
Footballguy
Damn this was on page 6. Nobody else watched this last night? I didnt think it was that bad.
pantherclub
Footballguy
The trash lady and preacher subplot is just stupid.
In The Zone
Footballguy
Lots of color blindness during the apocolypse.
pantherclub
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
I also forgot about the helicopter again. Yeah eff this, this is a bad show
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
It’s basically become a daytime soap opera with some zombies mixed in
wlwiles
Footballguy
I'm starting to wonder if the helicopter isn't a figment of Jada's imagination. Despite all the misgivings and wrongdoings by the writers in this series to date, I just can't understand why we have one character who seems to have a link to a gamechanger, but it goes completely unmentioned for well over a season now.
snogger
Footballguy
except Rick has seen it also.. Unless you think Rick is also part of her hallucination
beer 30
Footballguy
Just quoting this for future reference. I see this happening also and it could be done in about 15 minutes so this season is gonna blow.Eh.. at this point anything with Negan is just going to be a lot of meaningless
snogger
Footballguy
Interesting thoughts on last nights episode as I thought it was one of the better ones in the past 1 1/2 seasons.. That is until the last part of the Savior being captured/killed...
Could have done without the Negan conversation at the end.. Only Rick can think that Negan's thought process would change while he is behind bars.. Negan is Negan and nothing will change him.
Overall I thought it was a well done episode.
Could have done without the Negan conversation at the end.. Only Rick can think that Negan's thought process would change while he is behind bars.. Negan is Negan and nothing will change him.
Overall I thought it was a well done episode.
wlwiles
Footballguy
When did Rick see it? I'm having a hard time thinking back trying to remember if anyone other than Jada was with her when it was spotted. Was Rick with her at the garbage dump when it passed by?except Rick has seen it also.. Unless you think Rick is also part of her hallucination
Helicopter could mean that some semblance of government/military/law enforcement/hospital is still intact. Or there may be another survivor group, and if they've got a helicopter who knows what else they might have access to. It would give the ability to scavenge a much wider range than horseback and converted car-wagons.
