***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[mr roboto]

and why would the Gov be driving an old Ford pickup instead of a newer truck or SUV?

I would imagine an older car without all the computers, sensors etc is actually easier to maintain and run in the zombie apocalypse. Plus more parts available out in that area.

 

[Disco Stu]

and why would the Gov be driving an old Ford pickup instead of a newer truck or SUV?

I would imagine an older car without all the computers, sensors etc is actually easier to maintain and run in the zombie apocalypse. Plus more parts available out in that area.

Yep. If it wasn't for endorsement tie-ins, they would probably all be driving older cars.

 

[dparker713]

Governor is so boring. And seriously, if you're Rick's crew and the Governor's people show up demanding admittance, don't you just allow everyone but him in? They do after all need to resupply redshirts. Also, the Governor wants the prison because it's easily defensible, but no one considers that the prison being easily defensible makes taking it hard as hell?

Not tough to take the prison when you have a tank at your disposal.

Tank hasn't been maintained, they have no tools, they have no parts and there is no way they have enough gas. Plus, after all this time in the Georgia humidity the ordinance would be sketchy too.

 

[snogger]

Governor is so boring. And seriously, if you're Rick's crew and the Governor's people show up demanding admittance, don't you just allow everyone but him in? They do after all need to resupply redshirts. Also, the Governor wants the prison because it's easily defensible, but no one considers that the prison being easily defensible makes taking it hard as hell?

Not tough to take the prison when you have a tank at your disposal.

Tank hasn't been maintained, they have no tools, they have no parts and there is no way they have enough gas. Plus, after all this time in the Georgia humidity the ordinance would be sketchy too.

 

[Zow]

Half a season just to get to a repeat of the season 3 finale.

Surely don't expect a "run and hide" by the guv.. This will be a battle to the end... I haven't read past this part of the book so pure speculation on my part but...

I see "the end" being Rick and the survivors take off running with whatever they have available to them and the Guv and whoever survives from his group to take over the prison.

Then again, the guv and many of the attackers could die, but do enough damage to the fences and the walls of the prison to make Rick realize the Prison is no longer a safe haven..

This will bring back what has basically been left in the wind... the radio transmission.... and the group deciding to head out and find where the transmission came from.

lots of ways this could end.. but a mid-season cliff hanger is all but a guarantee.

I actually think this is all completely plausible.

 

[(HULK)]

"New guy, you have a point...my brother was kind of a #####, thanks for taking him out and putting him in the bottom of a lake."

Here, please take my tank keys and enjoy yourself. Go crazy. Just gas her up when you're done.

 

[flapgreen]

Half a season just to get to a repeat of the season 3 finale.

I'm hoping there's more to this than just another attack of the prison.

And the Guv doesn't tuck tail and run after Maggie and Glenn shoot at him and his crew. I'm guessing the episode ends right before the battle begins.

 

[phunktrain]

Don't get too hung up on the gas issue (at least with the Tank). Having worked on the engineering side of the M1A1/M1A2 tank engine, that thing will run on pretty much any type of fuel/liquid that will combust (gas, diesel, jet fuel, fuel oil, etc...). They design it specifically that way, so they can fill it up with whatever is on hand in a combat situation, and continue on. It may not run well, but it will run....

 

[snogger]

Half a season just to get to a repeat of the season 3 finale.

I'm hoping there's more to this than just another attack of the prison.

And the Guv doesn't tuck tail and run after Maggie and Glenn shoot at him and his crew. I'm guessing the episode ends right before the battle begins.

I doubt it.. I can't find the article now, but last week they discussed with the producers about the mid-season finale and they said it was the biggest production episode they had done..

Said they spent more time for this one episode then they do normally for 2 episodes..



ETA to add a link.. semi-spoilers abound so you have been warned!

 

[flapgreen]

Sweet!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

How do all zombies hear? Wouldnt the eardrums rot like the rest of its body?

 

[dparker713]

Don't get too hung up on the gas issue (at least with the Tank). Having worked on the engineering side of the M1A1/M1A2 tank engine, that thing will run on pretty much any type of fuel/liquid that will combust (gas, diesel, jet fuel, fuel oil, etc...). They design it specifically that way, so they can fill it up with whatever is on hand in a combat situation, and continue on. It may not run well, but it will run....

It gets what, half a mile per gallon or there abouts in optimal condition? That is a ton of gasoline just for the tank.

 

[cstu]

Half a season just to get to a repeat of the season 3 finale.

I'm hoping there's more to this than just another attack of the prison.

Think Return of the Jedi...with a tank.

 

[packersfan]

Half a season just to get to a repeat of the season 3 finale.

I'm hoping there's more to this than just another attack of the prison.

Think Return of the Jedi...with a tank.

I love Return of the Jedi so sweet.

 

[cstu]

Don't get too hung up on the gas issue (at least with the Tank). Having worked on the engineering side of the M1A1/M1A2 tank engine, that thing will run on pretty much any type of fuel/liquid that will combust (gas, diesel, jet fuel, fuel oil, etc...). They design it specifically that way, so they can fill it up with whatever is on hand in a combat situation, and continue on. It may not run well, but it will run....

It gets what, half a mile per gallon or there abouts in optimal condition? That is a ton of gasoline just for the tank.

500 gallon tank that gets a half a mile per gallon.

 

[-fish-]

zombies have killed 90% of the human population. your criticism is with the realism of the fuel requirements of a tank?

 

[danielmclark]

Don't get too hung up on the gas issue (at least with the Tank). Having worked on the engineering side of the M1A1/M1A2 tank engine, that thing will run on pretty much any type of fuel/liquid that will combust (gas, diesel, jet fuel, fuel oil, etc...). They design it specifically that way, so they can fill it up with whatever is on hand in a combat situation, and continue on. It may not run well, but it will run....

That's fascinating to me. I didn't know engines could do that. Can the fuels be mixed or do you have to run completely through one fuel type before filling up with a second fuel type?

 

[dparker713]

zombies have killed 90% of the human population. your criticism is with the realism of the fuel requirements of a tank?

a) Seems to be a lot higher than 90%

b) There are plenty of issues with the zombies, but I'll accept that there was a plague that zombified the population at face value.

c) Just because there's a zombie apocalypse doesn't mean all other logic flies out the door.

 

[phunktrain]

Don't get too hung up on the gas issue (at least with the Tank). Having worked on the engineering side of the M1A1/M1A2 tank engine, that thing will run on pretty much any type of fuel/liquid that will combust (gas, diesel, jet fuel, fuel oil, etc...). They design it specifically that way, so they can fill it up with whatever is on hand in a combat situation, and continue on. It may not run well, but it will run....

That's fascinating to me. I didn't know engines could do that. Can the fuels be mixed or do you have to run completely through one fuel type before filling up with a second fuel type?

Well this may be specific to the M1 engine, as its not a normal internal combustion engine. Its a gas turbine (basically a jet engine, similar to a plane engine but without the big fan section). More information below. They also make reference to the use of different types of fuels (although i think i've heard of them using more then just whats listed).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_AGT1500

FYI capacity is 500 gallons, at ~.5 miles per gallon.

 

[shuke]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

 

[-fish-]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

this, too. the gas isn't that old and there aren't many cars on the road.

 

[pantherclub]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

Its been over 2 years

Gas doesnt last that long without being stored in optimal conditions. Gas stations are not optimal conditions. They just have big tanks made to be refilled.

 

[dparker713]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

this, too. the gas isn't that old and there aren't many cars on the road.

The NYC area had a disruption in delivery during Sandy. The area was very low on supply within a few days. During the run up to Katrina, Houston basically ran out of gas completely. Gasoline distribution and production disruptions would result in a quick reduction of supply on hand.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

Just trust us.

 

[-fish-]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

this, too. the gas isn't that old and there aren't many cars on the road.

The NYC area had a disruption in delivery during Sandy. The area was very low on supply within a few days. During the run up to Katrina, Houston basically ran out of gas completely. Gasoline distribution and production disruptions would result in a quick reduction of supply on hand.

most of the population didn't die. you know those scenes of thousands of cars on the road that didn't make it anywhere? they didn't need to stop to fill up outside of Atlanta.

 

[rail]

Half a season just to get to a repeat of the season 3 finale.

I'm hoping there's more to this than just another attack of the prison.

Think Return of the Jedi...with a tank.

I love Return of the Jedi so sweet.

Don't want to speak for anyone else, but I have eagerly been awaiting the appearance of the Walker Ewoks.

 

[bushdocda]

Watch out for pools of mud filled with zombies right in the middle of a road when you're driving that there tank.

 

[dparker713]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

this, too. the gas isn't that old and there aren't many cars on the road.

The NYC area had a disruption in delivery during Sandy. The area was very low on supply within a few days. During the run up to Katrina, Houston basically ran out of gas completely. Gasoline distribution and production disruptions would result in a quick reduction of supply on hand.

most of the population didn't die. you know those scenes of thousands of cars on the road that didn't make it anywhere? they didn't need to stop to fill up outside of Atlanta.

Same thing happened on roads out of Houston during Katrina. Thousands of cars left on the road - out of gas from idling in traffic.

 

[Wingnut]

Watch out for pools of mud filled with zombies right in the middle of a road when you're driving that there tank.

What the hell was that all about anyway?

 

[Gator Shawn]

Don't get too hung up on the gas issue (at least with the Tank). Having worked on the engineering side of the M1A1/M1A2 tank engine, that thing will run on pretty much any type of fuel/liquid that will combust (gas, diesel, jet fuel, fuel oil, etc...). They design it specifically that way, so they can fill it up with whatever is on hand in a combat situation, and continue on. It may not run well, but it will run....

That's fascinating to me. I didn't know engines could do that. Can the fuels be mixed or do you have to run completely through one fuel type before filling up with a second fuel type?

Well this may be specific to the M1 engine, as its not a normal internal combustion engine. Its a gas turbine (basically a jet engine, similar to a plane engine but without the big fan section). More information below. They also make reference to the use of different types of fuels (although i think i've heard of them using more then just whats listed).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_AGT1500

FYI capacity is 500 gallons, at ~.5 miles per gallon.

Their tank is an M-60. It runs off normal gas station Diesel. Still, though, an M-60??? There are no active or reserve US Army units stil using M-60s. Hell, we have extra M1s in storage because that whole "war with Russia" never happened.

They managed to get an M-1 in Atlanta for season 1. All the sudden this is turning into a 1980s James Garner movie.

 

[Dr Oadi]

How in the world do you knock out a full camp of people and not make enough noise to draw the gov's group back and bring in every zombie in the neighborhood to the area.

This was the hardest thing to believe in the episode. They don't run into anyone for a long time and went they do find people it's immediately attacked by another group? And they don't hear anything? C'mon...

Carol is a ninja and loves knives. No noise. Beware!

 

[shuke]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

Its been over 2 years

Gas doesnt last that long without being stored in optimal conditions. Gas stations are not optimal conditions. They just have big tanks made to be refilled.

You telling me it wouldn't work?

 

[-fish-]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

this, too. the gas isn't that old and there aren't many cars on the road.

The NYC area had a disruption in delivery during Sandy. The area was very low on supply within a few days. During the run up to Katrina, Houston basically ran out of gas completely. Gasoline distribution and production disruptions would result in a quick reduction of supply on hand.

most of the population didn't die. you know those scenes of thousands of cars on the road that didn't make it anywhere? they didn't need to stop to fill up outside of Atlanta.

Same thing happened on roads out of Houston during Katrina. Thousands of cars left on the road - out of gas from idling in traffic.

yes, and then all of those people died, never to return to their cars.

 

[mr roboto]

STALE GAS MOTHER ***KERS!!!!!!!!

 

[-fish-]

Why does everyone assume there's no gas in any of the pumps? Civilization deteriorated pretty quickly. If you haven't questioned where the characters were getting gas for the Kia or motorcycle, why are you questioning where they're getting gas for the tank?

Its been over 2 years

Gas doesnt last that long without being stored in optimal conditions. Gas stations are not optimal conditions. They just have big tanks made to be refilled.

You telling me it wouldn't work?

it works, as long as you don't care about your engine...which you don't, since you have a limitless supply of cars.

 

[phatdawg]

Maybe the mid-season finale will be a 40-minute discussion about gas in the zombie apocalypse. The final minute will be a few zombie kills and some stuff being blown up.

 

[The Dude]

Seems a little like Lost right now. Additional story lines that are delaying the story from playing out.

And it's funny -cause the show really isn't about zombies - it could be any post-apocalyptic event - and the story wouldn't change.

 

[cstu]

Watch out for pools of mud filled with zombies right in the middle of a road when you're driving that there tank.

What the hell was that all about anyway?

It wouldn't be the Walking Dead without a cheap plot device.

 

[The Big Guy]

Watch out for pools of mud filled with zombies right in the middle of a road when you're driving that there tank.

What the hell was that all about anyway?

It would be the Walking Dead without a cheap plot device.

I was thinking what a great way to block off a road going to your camp that would be. A little zombie quicksand and you have a nice fence.

 

[flapgreen]

How about drive around the zombie mud pit?

 

[-fish-]

How about drive around the zombie mud pit?

apparently he'd run out of gas.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

How in the world do you knock out a full camp of people and not make enough noise to draw the gov's group back and bring in every zombie in the neighborhood to the area.

This was the hardest thing to believe in the episode. They don't run into anyone for a long time and went they do find people it's immediately attacked by another group? And they don't hear anything? C'mon...

I thought that when they showed a few of the bodies on the ground, it appeared that their throats had been slit.

 

[Wingnut]

STALE GAS MOTHER ***KERS!!!!!!!!

 

[Jayrok]

Language filter on the fritz.

 

[Statorama]

I think Carl is becoming one of the more interesting characters. I think the kid who plays him does a very good job, especially now that he's getting older. Let's face it, most kids that are his age when the show began suck at acting, as he did his first year or so. But he's getting better, and in turn is making his character more believeable and interesting. I'll be anxious to see where the writers take his character.

Channeling my inner Katt Williams here, but Carl is the only Real MFer out there

 

[mr roboto]

Language filter on the fritz.

I was a bit drunk last night.

 

[snogger]

Language filter on the fritz.

 

[Parrothead]

Language filter on the fritz.

first sign of the zombie apocolypse.. RIP mods

 

[cstu]

How in the world do you knock out a full camp of people and not make enough noise to draw the gov's group back and bring in every zombie in the neighborhood to the area.

This was the hardest thing to believe in the episode. They don't run into anyone for a long time and went they do find people it's immediately attacked by another group? And they don't hear anything? C'mon...

I thought that when they showed a few of the bodies on the ground, it appeared that their throats had been slit.

I guess they slipped into the camp ninja-style and slit everyone's throat without anyone getting a shot off.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

How in the world do you knock out a full camp of people and not make enough noise to draw the gov's group back and bring in every zombie in the neighborhood to the area.

This was the hardest thing to believe in the episode. They don't run into anyone for a long time and went they do find people it's immediately attacked by another group? And they don't hear anything? C'mon...

I thought that when they showed a few of the bodies on the ground, it appeared that their throats had been slit.

I guess they slipped into the camp ninja-style and slit everyone's throat without anyone getting a shot off.

I guess. I'm with you as far as it being far-fetched, but looking back, I'm guessing that's how the writers were trying to explain how it happened so quietly.