***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Parrothead]

Along those same lines, now that the dust has settled a bit, how does Rick confront Tara? Does Maggie find out the truth about who she is? Have to think that all comes into play at some point.

What does this mean?

she is a nudist. she must return to her old ways..

 

[stbugs]

Things like the bottle rocket shooting 100 yards straight on target to the propane tank make me think of this on account of levels of gravitivity and polarity.

And again- I still enjoy the show, in spite of these kind of implausible moments.

I believe that MythBusters proved that you cannot pierce a propane tank with any type of gun, even from close range.

I don't think that is correct. They were able to pierce the propane tanks, but couldn't make anything explode with just the shot. They had to jerry-rig a flame to make it explode.

 

[stbugs]

Along those same lines, now that the dust has settled a bit, how does Rick confront Tara? Does Maggie find out the truth about who she is? Have to think that all comes into play at some point.

What does this mean?

Not sure either. I don't think it would matter that she was with the Governor. Glen already went through that with her, done deal. She had nothing to do with Hershel getting killed by the Governor and I am pretty sure that will be a non-story since Glen saved her even though she said she didn't deserve to be saved.

 

[packersfan]

Glenn told Maggie Tara was someone he met on the road who helped him survive. He didn't tell her that Tara was part of The Governor's group which resulted in Herschel being beheaded. The only people who know that are Rick and Glenn. I think we can safely presume that Rick will have a discussion of some sort with Tara eventually. What I'm wondering is does he do it publicly where Maggie and the others will find out the truth about her or not. If he does, that could create issues between Glenn and Maggie obviously.

The fact Tara wasn't a willing participant in what went down at the prison doesn't change the fact she was there and part of the group that ultimately killed Herschel and others. The way Rick looked at her when he first saw her in the train car leads me to think he's not just going to let it slide on by either.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Things like the bottle rocket shooting 100 yards straight on target to the propane tank make me think of this on account of levels of gravitivity and polarity.

And again- I still enjoy the show, in spite of these kind of implausible moments.

I believe that MythBusters proved that you cannot pierce a propane tank with any type of gun, even from close range.

I don't think that is correct. They were able to pierce the propane tanks, but couldn't make anything explode with just the shot. They had to jerry-rig a flame to make it explode.

I just looked it up and you're right. A 9mm couldn't, but a rifle could. But that was from close range. Wonder if it would still breach it from the distance Carol was. Until this is settled, I have to think this show is too far fetched.

 

[stbugs]

Glenn told Maggie Tara was someone he met on the road who helped him survive. He didn't tell her that Tara was part of The Governor's group which resulted in Herschel being beheaded. The only people who know that are Rick and Glenn. I think we can safely presume that Rick will have a discussion of some sort with Tara eventually. What I'm wondering is does he do it publicly where Maggie and the others will find out the truth about her or not. If he does, that could create issues between Glenn and Maggie obviously.

The fact Tara wasn't a willing participant in what went down at the prison doesn't change the fact she was there and part of the group that ultimately killed Herschel and others. The way Rick looked at her when he first saw her in the train car leads me to think he's not just going to let it slide on by either.

How does Rick know? She hid behind the tank and never really fired on anyone. I don't see how Rick knows her. Glenn didn't know her at all either until she told him she should be left there. He might not even know how she is connected with the Governor.

Also, what about all the people who were with the Governor before? One of them was Tyrese's girlfriend. What about Andrea? I think they all know the Governor was truly the bad guy and got people to believe what he wanted. I think this is a non-issue. She is a teenager that was living with the Governor's crew. She never killed anyone and never helped in any way other than to help Glenn find Maggie.

 

[stbugs]

Things like the bottle rocket shooting 100 yards straight on target to the propane tank make me think of this on account of levels of gravitivity and polarity.

And again- I still enjoy the show, in spite of these kind of implausible moments.

I believe that MythBusters proved that you cannot pierce a propane tank with any type of gun, even from close range.

I don't think that is correct. They were able to pierce the propane tanks, but couldn't make anything explode with just the shot. They had to jerry-rig a flame to make it explode.

I just looked it up and you're right. A 9mm couldn't, but a rifle could. But that was from close range. Wonder if it would still breach it from the distance Carol was. Until this is settled, I have to think this show is too far fetched.

Not that it matters, but that was a pretty high powered rifle/automatic weapon she had. Hard to tell what it was with the scopes and attachments on it (like the bipod on the front), but it looked like more of a military type weapon that I would think has the power to pierce the tank.

 

[tommyboy]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

 

[tommyboy]

Also hilarious. All of the Termites or whatever have to account for every shot they fire. In the scene just before Rick takes away someone's gun and then starts mowing people down there is a guy shooting his AK(?) pretty much into the ground 10 feet in front of him.

I'm guessing they don't have to count their shots as their home is burning and blowing up. They probably get a pass in that situation.

Pretty sure that the idea behind "shot discipline" still applies. More than anything it was hilarious because the actor/extra was just blasting away at the pavement.

I was laughing at that as well. Nice shooting, William Tell.

maybe he was shooting a zombie on the ground

 

[kentric]

@ Carol's propane+bottle rocket stunt. Come on.

Was wondering whether this would be brought up. The least they could have done was lower the trajectory a little. A line shot instead of an arc.

 

[Copeman]

He was behind the other group of 5 that were shooting while advancing. If the gun was pointed up he could have shot those other people in front of him, especially in that narrow alleyway. I'm not even sure why he was shooting.

Perhaps it could be justified by saying he was helping to attract walkers/make sound to have them come closer for an easier kill for those in front of him.

 

[TheIronSheik]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

I think I really am losing my mind. What is the mass prison killing scene in BB?

 

[TheIronSheik]

He was behind the other group of 5 that were shooting while advancing. If the gun was pointed up he could have shot those other people in front of him, especially in that narrow alleyway. I'm not even sure why he was shooting.

Perhaps it could be justified by saying he was helping to attract walkers/make sound to have them come closer for an easier kill for those in front of him.

Or just doing cleanup and hitting any walker still alive but laying on the ground.

 

[kentric]

I really couldn't stand the Tyrese cabin scene.

My son and I are watching it...and both of us are wondering why are they leaving that guy alive?

Why is Carol going to save the crew?

I told him it's because he can't just kill in cold blood...the American viewer just cannot resolve that...Tyrese needs to be forced to kill the guy...he can't just do it because it makes every bit of sense. And leaving the baby close enough to the guy for him to get to it? Ugh. But worst of all...he's got his hands down around the baby and Tyrese pulls out his pistol and knife and lays them down. Dude...just shoot the guy...you could close your eyes, unload the clip and you'll hit him without hitting the baby...but again, WE need to have Tyrese be forced to kill the man.

And Carol being the one to save them...because she has to be redeemed. Whatever.

It's just so manipulated...the writing is stilted. That killing trough scene was awesome...then they stop just before killing Glenn...ugh. I'd rather they just stop one guy short of him...it kills the supposed drama of it all...we all know you're not going to kill him. But how cool of a show would it have been if they did? It'd be a Game of Thrones moment...but we can't have this show elevate to that level...just retread themes and sight gags.

It's like the writers are slapping the viewers in the face each week now...

And it's very easy to fix some of these flaws...you're filming that scene with Tyrese and NO ONE says, "Hang on...let's have the guy pick the baby up...otherwise Tyrese could just shoot him 6 or 8 times." Simple little common sense things would tighten this show up...but they know they don't have to...we'll keep tuning in...regardless of the endless amounts of "plot armor" these characters have.

These guys count their rounds...and apparently it's an important issue...but they'll waste endless rounds just trying to round these guys up through a maze to get them to the train car? What the hell? Couldn't they have just pulled a weapon on them and force marched them to the freight car?

This was a head scratcher for me too. Seemed totally unnecessary.

 

[BigJohn]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

I think I really am losing my mind. What is the mass prison killing scene in BB?

When Walt has all the dudes killed in prison. It takes 2 minutes? I believe it was after he killed Mike.

 

[packersfan]

Glenn told Maggie Tara was someone he met on the road who helped him survive. He didn't tell her that Tara was part of The Governor's group which resulted in Herschel being beheaded. The only people who know that are Rick and Glenn. I think we can safely presume that Rick will have a discussion of some sort with Tara eventually. What I'm wondering is does he do it publicly where Maggie and the others will find out the truth about her or not. If he does, that could create issues between Glenn and Maggie obviously.

The fact Tara wasn't a willing participant in what went down at the prison doesn't change the fact she was there and part of the group that ultimately killed Herschel and others. The way Rick looked at her when he first saw her in the train car leads me to think he's not just going to let it slide on by either.

How does Rick know?

Rick specifically addressed Tara during that scene asking her if this (the attack on the prison) was what she wanted to be a part of. He also clearly recognized her when he saw her in the train car. For what it's worth Andrew Lincoln confirmed on The Talking Dead after the Season 4 finale that Rick did recognize Tara and knows she was part of The Governor's group.

As far as others who had been part of The Governor's group before none of them were there in the final attack on the prison except for Tara, who is now part of Rick's group. I think it's only natural that this is going to be explored in some way. Maybe it ends up being nothing but I doubt it's just forgotten about.

 

[badmojo1006]

So we just had an awesome episode. That means the next three will be

 

[tommyboy]

Things like the bottle rocket shooting 100 yards straight on target to the propane tank make me think of this on account of levels of gravitivity and polarity.

And again- I still enjoy the show, in spite of these kind of implausible moments.

I believe that MythBusters proved that you cannot pierce a propane tank with any type of gun, even from close range.

I don't think that is correct. They were able to pierce the propane tanks, but couldn't make anything explode with just the shot. They had to jerry-rig a flame to make it explode.

I just looked it up and you're right. A 9mm couldn't, but a rifle could. But that was from close range. Wonder if it would still breach it from the distance Carol was. Until this is settled, I have to think this show is too far fetched.

she seemed to be in the 100 yd range or so, with a high powered rifle on 1/4" steel plate, you'd get this http://s4.photobucket.com/user/handymanks/media/1942%20Mosin%20Nagant%2091%2030/photo48.jpg.html

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

so Tyrese didn't really kill the gum chewer, right?

 

[Parrothead]

so Tyrese didn't really kill the gum chewer, right?

on this show, they make sure to show you when someone is dead.. if they don't, chances are they are alive

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Non DVR ratings are banana's. http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/13/media/walking-dead-ratings/

 

[Disco Stu]

I think Tyrese is a good/gentle guy at heart and I think the girls being killed affected him a lot more than Carol.

I don't. I think tyrese is a reformed killer. Like he's got some backstory he was special forces or worked for the mob something like that, he's killed so many people he finally had a come to jesus moment and reformed to the gentle giant. But now, after the shack scene, he's done being mr nice guy and will resume killing at will.

Pretty close. He was a legendary soldier in Baltimore's drug trade. Did a 14 year prison stint IIRC. Eventually turns around his life and opens a gym, which helps at-risk youth in the community.

 

[TheIronSheik]

so Tyrese didn't really kill the gum chewer, right?

I said the same thing. Because when he was beating him he kept saying something like "Not today" when the guy was talking about killings. My GF disagrees but I said I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing that dude again.

She was also skeptical on where he got the gum. Seemed a little far fetched.

 

[cstu]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

It was the most extreme scene I've scene on a regular cable channel. When it happened I couldn't believe they got that one approved.

 

[cstu]

so Tyrese didn't really kill the gum chewer, right?

I said the same thing. Because when he was beating him he kept saying something like "Not today" when the guy was talking about killings. My GF disagrees but I said I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing that dude again.

She was also skeptical on where he got the gum. Seemed a little far fetched.

He killed him.

"I'm (punch) not (punch) going (punch) to (punch) kill (punch) today (punch). Oops, he's dead."

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

It was the most extreme scene I've scene on a regular cable channel. When it happened I couldn't believe they got that one approved.

Cable TV is not governed by the FCC, correct? I think they're essentially governed by the advertisers and whether or not they will pay to have their products support the show.

I swear I've heard that before, but I could be wrong.

 

[TheIronSheik]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

It was the most extreme scene I've scene on a regular cable channel. When it happened I couldn't believe they got that one approved.

Is it weird that I didn't even think it was that bad until I started hearing people say it was?

 

[TheIronSheik]

so Tyrese didn't really kill the gum chewer, right?

I said the same thing. Because when he was beating him he kept saying something like "Not today" when the guy was talking about killings. My GF disagrees but I said I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing that dude again.

She was also skeptical on where he got the gum. Seemed a little far fetched.

He killed him.

"I'm (punch) not (punch) going (punch) to (punch) kill (punch) today (punch). Oops, he's dead."

I guess. That makes sense. Just seemed odd to me.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I think Tyrese is a good/gentle guy at heart and I think the girls being killed affected him a lot more than Carol.

I don't. I think tyrese is a reformed killer. Like he's got some backstory he was special forces or worked for the mob something like that, he's killed so many people he finally had a come to jesus moment and reformed to the gentle giant. But now, after the shack scene, he's done being mr nice guy and will resume killing at will.

Pretty close. He was a legendary soldier in Baltimore's drug trade. Did a 14 year prison stint IIRC. Eventually turns around his life and opens a gym, which helps at-risk youth (and boning their moms) in the community.

FYP

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Good gravy. The bottle rocket is the real problem. When was the last time those things ever went in the direction you wanted them except for up?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Good gravy. The bottle rocket is the real problem. When was the last time those things ever went in the direction you wanted them except for up?

I think they need you in the SOA thread.

 

[Disco Stu]

Good gravy. The bottle rocket is the real problem. When was the last time those things ever went in the direction you wanted them except for up?

I was just happy they acknowledged a shot from a rifle wouldn't make the thing explode. Beyond that... I can let Carol have her MacGyver moment. :cutler:

 

[tommyboy]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

I think I really am losing my mind. What is the mass prison killing scene in BB?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/29/the-17-most-iconic-scenes-in-breaking-bad-video.html season 5.1

 

[(HULK)]

I'm pretty sure Rick and his pals would have gotten away.

Yes, I know that the writers were writing their escape, pretty sure I saw that in the previews. That said, tdoss' easy decision IMHO would have gotten them in much worse shape than what happened if we think about it in terms of what we saw in a TV show that can't really change kind of way.

btw- speaking of getting away... how many times has Tyrese bum-rushed a huge pack of zombies-leaving the viewer to assume he's dead- and then come strolling back in?

It's almost like a Hulk thing. He gets sent out or stays by himself, Hulks out, kills a million zombies and baby stranglers, turns back to Tyrese and hugs a kid. We actually got a glimpse of it when he beat the guy to a pulp.

Tyrese is growing on me imo

 

[packersfan]

I'm pretty sure Rick and his pals would have gotten away.

Yes, I know that the writers were writing their escape, pretty sure I saw that in the previews. That said, tdoss' easy decision IMHO would have gotten them in much worse shape than what happened if we think about it in terms of what we saw in a TV show that can't really change kind of way.

btw- speaking of getting away... how many times has Tyrese bum-rushed a huge pack of zombies-leaving the viewer to assume he's dead- and then come strolling back in?

It's almost like a Hulk thing. He gets sent out or stays by himself, Hulks out, kills a million zombies and baby stranglers, turns back to Tyrese and hugs a kid. We actually got a glimpse of it when he beat the guy to a pulp.

Tyrese is growing on me imo

Ditto. I've been disappointed in his character since there was so much hype about him from the comics readers. I'm hoping this is the start of some strong character progression.

 

[(HULK)]

Things like the bottle rocket shooting 100 yards straight on target to the propane tank make me think of this on account of levels of gravitivity and polarity.

And again- I still enjoy the show, in spite of these kind of implausible moments.

I believe that MythBusters proved that you cannot pierce a propane tank with any type of gun, even from close range.

I don't think that is correct. They were able to pierce the propane tanks, but couldn't make anything explode with just the shot. They had to jerry-rig a flame to make it explode.

I just looked it up and you're right. A 9mm couldn't, but a rifle could. But that was from close range. Wonder if it would still breach it from the distance Carol was. Until this is settled, I have to think this show is too far fetched.

As someone who has shot MANY rounds out of assualt rifles, I can tell you that the bullets velocity @ 20 feet and @ 150 or so yards (about how far out Carol was from the tank) is nearly identical. If you can puncture a tank up close, no reason you couldn't from 150 out.

More of a factor would be the kind of round. If its one that tumbles, it would be much harder to puncture the tank than a slug or armor piercing type of round.

 

[Zow]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

I think I really am losing my mind. What is the mass prison killing scene in BB?

Seriously? It's the awesome montage scene set to music where all those with safe deposit boxes get shanked at Walt and Stevia chick's orders.

 

[Billy Bats]

I'm going to make a bottle rocket watch.

 

[TheIronSheik]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

I think I really am losing my mind. What is the mass prison killing scene in BB?

Seriously? It's the awesome montage scene set to music where all those with safe deposit boxes get shanked at Walt and Stevia chick's orders.

My bad.

 

[El Floppo]

Sunnava...

I'm in the middle of watching Breaking Bad for the first time (just finished Season 4)- KEEP THE BB STUFF IN THE BB THREAD PLEASE.

 

[cstu]

Things like the bottle rocket shooting 100 yards straight on target to the propane tank make me think of this on account of levels of gravitivity and polarity.

And again- I still enjoy the show, in spite of these kind of implausible moments.

I believe that MythBusters proved that you cannot pierce a propane tank with any type of gun, even from close range.

I don't think that is correct. They were able to pierce the propane tanks, but couldn't make anything explode with just the shot. They had to jerry-rig a flame to make it explode.

I just looked it up and you're right. A 9mm couldn't, but a rifle could. But that was from close range. Wonder if it would still breach it from the distance Carol was. Until this is settled, I have to think this show is too far fetched.

As someone who has shot MANY rounds out of assualt rifles, I can tell you that the bullets velocity @ 20 feet and @ 150 or so yards (about how far out Carol was from the tank) is nearly identical. If you can puncture a tank up close, no reason you couldn't from 150 out.

More of a factor would be the kind of round. If its one that tumbles, it would be much harder to puncture the tank than a slug or armor piercing type of round.

Question - would the gasoline still be good after this long?

 

[Porkchop Express]

Why did the Terminus people bother herding everyone into boxcars if they were just gonna slaughter them hours afterward? Could have just killed them quickly right away and saved lots of ammo.

 

[pollardsvision]

Why did the Terminus people bother herding everyone into boxcars if they were just gonna slaughter them hours afterward? Could have just killed them quickly right away and saved lots of ammo.

Don't think they had the cold storage to slaughter all their meat at one time

 

[Billy Bats]

That was a freaking intense episode.

Agreed, really enjoyed this episode.

That trough/bloodletting scene was the first time, in a very long time, I felt horrified/anxious watching a WD scene in a very long time. .

honestly can't believe they showed that on TV, we've come a long way. Only 2 other scenes from TV rival that for me, the mass prison killing scene in Breaking Bad and the final suicide episode of The Shield

It was the most extreme scene I've scene on a regular cable channel. When it happened I couldn't believe they got that one approved.

I was pretty surprised too. I was watching and thinking, ok well this is how they kill them, cut their throats and let them bleed out, they won't show it but I OMG they showed it!!... Showing him bleeding out too?!... Wow can't believe they... Jesus christ they showed a second one, well #### its on now here comes the third...

 

[El Floppo]

Why did the Terminus people bother herding everyone into boxcars if they were just gonna slaughter them hours afterward? Could have just killed them quickly right away and saved lots of ammo.

Don't think they had the cold storage to slaughter all their meat at one time

this. they don't live in the Andes.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Why did the Terminus people bother herding everyone into boxcars if they were just gonna slaughter them hours afterward? Could have just killed them quickly right away and saved lots of ammo.

Don't think they had the cold storage to slaughter all their meat at one time

this. they don't live in the Andes.

To that point, I found it kind of surprising they'd kill 7 dudes at once. You'd think you'd keep them alive and do one at a time. Two max. Fresh people has to taste better than jerky people, right?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Why did the Terminus people bother herding everyone into boxcars if they were just gonna slaughter them hours afterward? Could have just killed them quickly right away and saved lots of ammo.

Don't think they had the cold storage to slaughter all their meat at one time

this. they don't live in the Andes.

I like this joke because it works on two levels.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Why did the Terminus people bother herding everyone into boxcars if they were just gonna slaughter them hours afterward? Could have just killed them quickly right away and saved lots of ammo.

Don't think they had the cold storage to slaughter all their meat at one time

this. they don't live in the Andes.

To that point, I found it kind of surprising they'd kill 7 dudes at once. You'd think you'd keep them alive and do one at a time. Two max. Fresh people has to taste better than jerky people, right?

It was meatloaf night at the local Terminus Cafe. Music, dancing, and open-face (literally) sammiches

 

[Parrothead]

I wonder if they had a smoker at Terminus.. mmm

 

[TheIronSheik]

I wonder what the best cut of human would be?