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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (7 Viewers)

I thought Shane and Lori boned ON THE WAY to Atlanta.

Lori wouldn't leave until Shane lied and told her Rick was dead.

So, she boned him within days of her husband's presumed death.
Yes and a large part of the anger was thinking rick was dead when he wasnt. Gee, and who told her that again?

Shane even told her in the CDC episode "Would you have come with us if you thought he was still alive"?.

There are a few layers to her crazy.

And this is a stupid conversation anywaya

 
packersfan said:
ghostguy123 said:
packersfan said:
I think Lori was always mad at herself for banging Shane. How long had Rick been "dead?" A day or two? Sure didn't take Lori long to jump on top of Shane. I think she hated the fact she did that and probably hated the fact she liked it. Lori had a lot of issues and that's being kind. Rick and Shane just ended up getting in the cross hairs.
A day or two?? Way way longer than that.
OK a few weeks. Still wasn't very long before she started getting her groove on with her husband's best friend.
End of the world,thought husband dead anyway(because shane told her he was dead).
Plenty of women's husbands actually die and they don't start humping the best friend the first chance they get. Grieve a little, will ya? I don't know about the comics but Lori on the show was much like Sally Draper and Skylar White in my opinion. Seriously flawed and capable of some really f'd up decision making. The fact Lori's husband was the one decent guy out of those three (at least in terms of honoring their marital vows or not breaking the law) makes her look even worse than the other two.
Do plenty of women have their life snd son's life saved by that best friend while cities are being fire bombed while zombies are eating everyone in the apocalypse??

 
packersfan said:
ghostguy123 said:
packersfan said:
I think Lori was always mad at herself for banging Shane. How long had Rick been "dead?" A day or two? Sure didn't take Lori long to jump on top of Shane. I think she hated the fact she did that and probably hated the fact she liked it. Lori had a lot of issues and that's being kind. Rick and Shane just ended up getting in the cross hairs.
A day or two?? Way way longer than that.
OK a few weeks. Still wasn't very long before she started getting her groove on with her husband's best friend.
End of the world,thought husband dead anyway(because shane told her he was dead).
Plenty of women's husbands actually die and they don't start humping the best friend the first chance they get. Grieve a little, will ya? I don't know about the comics but Lori on the show was much like Sally Draper and Skylar White in my opinion. Seriously flawed and capable of some really f'd up decision making. The fact Lori's husband was the one decent guy out of those three (at least in terms of honoring their marital vows or not breaking the law) makes her look even worse than the other two.
Do plenty of women have their life snd son's life saved by that best friend while cities are being fire bombed while zombies are eating everyone in the apocalypse??
I think so yeah. :)

 
El Floppo said:
ghostguy123 said:
El Floppo said:
ghostguy123 said:
culdeus said:
Again, some noob stuff.

I don't really like the fact that if you die, you are a zombie, no matter what. If this was a virus or something you should have either gotten the virus and turned or not. Then you just fight it out to the death with the zombies. The way this is setup the entire human race is going to go extinct, no matter what. There is no hope to turn this around with medicine or the technology on hand. They went to the CDC and the CDC had nothing.

If you could say, ok, lets find a real way to bunker down with fresh water wells and agriculture and start up society again, and slowly clear the world of the zombies, fine.

I almost wonder if the writer of the comics didn't want this to be "The Road - Now with Zombies" so he made everyone affected.

So what's the endgame? They all just ultimately die off?
I don't get why it matters.

When people die they die. You just have to kill em again as a zombie. Not sure why that has anything to do with the "end game". The virus they all have doesnt make them die any faster.
it matters because it provides a fundamental human dilemma... much of what we do, we do for posterity: kids, money, etc. if there's no future for the human race, what then? why bother? when the show taps into those kinds of things, IMO, it's at its best.
Why would it mean there is no future for the human race?? All it means is that you need to stab people in the head when they die.

We are referring to the "end game" for the show the other poster was talking about. I guess he didnt realize people can still have babies.

The fact that everyone turns when they die doesnt actually change anything about anyones lifespan or the future of the world. It's just scary, and makes things a little more dangerous.
yeah- ok.

human race goes on with babies.

and yeah- turning won't affect lifespans and/or mortality rates... but lack of medicine, doctors, etc combined with most of the world covered with zombies trying to eat you might.

I still don't get why people aren't hunkering down in houses/buildings more.

same thought- it's unclear to me if walkers can handle stairs... have they been shown going up stairs? I know we've seen them in areas that are "upstairs", just not clear if they turned up there, or managed to climb up.
Hunker down in buildings with no food or water?

And yet again, i was referring to the other poster talking about the end game for the SHOW as if people turning when they die has any bearing on that at all. I would think it does not.
Well I just meant that if you have a situation where healthy people dying and turning makes the world view a little different. It's also going to make larger groups harder to manage, repopulation harder to start, and all the issues that come along with that.

The zombies aren't reproducing. They aren't having zombie sex and babies. An asexual zombie with healthy humans dying and staying dead just means you have to mass enough live humans to win back enough of the world to get civilization going again.

With this, I mean the situation is so bleak it's hard to see the motivation to do anything but have sex with anything that moves till you die.

 
so lori was a ho that gave it up within 2 weeks of her husband "passing"

id say she held out a lot longer than my wife would have. I put the over./under at 6 hrs

 
this whole "everyone is infected and will turn eventually" thing is really ####### up my mind. I really think I'd just eat a shotgun.

 
this whole "everyone is infected and will turn eventually" thing is really ####### up my mind. I really think I'd just eat a shotgun.
People need to wear collars that send a spike into the brain when they die. The only bad thing about it is I'd have trouble falling asleep in the same room with people.

 
So lets clear up this Lori Shane timeline

Episode #1: They are shown briefly kissing before Carl interupts them

Episode #2: They are shown having sex in woods. That scene is linked below. Even though not stated, this does not appear to be their first time.

Episode #3: Rick comes to the camp. Shane and Lori never consentually physically engage like this again after this point.

http://youtu.be/t_i8zi59qe0

 
Definitely didn't look like their first time. I probably pulled Shane's "I've wanted this for so long" line from the book too, I'll be deferring to google/youtube from now on.

 
Definitely didn't look like their first time. I probably pulled Shane's "I've wanted this for so long" line from the book too, I'll be deferring to google/youtube from now on.
That line was not in the comics either. I posted earlier in the thread the only time they mentioned having sex in the comics.

The last panels in issue 4 were:

Shane says, "But what about that night when we - on the road down here?" Lori, her back to Shane, says, "That night was a mistake."

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It is never explicitly mentioned again the comics.

 
Definitely didn't look like their first time. I probably pulled Shane's "I've wanted this for so long" line from the book too, I'll be deferring to google/youtube from now on.
That line was not in the comics either. I posted earlier in the thread the only time they mentioned having sex in the comics. The last panels in issue 4 were:

Shane says, "But what about that night when we - on the road down here?" Lori, her back to Shane, says, "That night was a mistake."

===========

It is never explicitly mentioned again the comics.
You're right. Shane's wiki says that the night of sex was something Shane had wanted for a long time, so it wasn't something he said, but then I'm not real sure how the wiki would know that about him? The reference isn't specific.

 
Definitely didn't look like their first time. I probably pulled Shane's "I've wanted this for so long" line from the book too, I'll be deferring to google/youtube from now on.
That line was not in the comics either. I posted earlier in the thread the only time they mentioned having sex in the comics. The last panels in issue 4 were:

Shane says, "But what about that night when we - on the road down here?" Lori, her back to Shane, says, "That night was a mistake."

===========

It is never explicitly mentioned again the comics.
You're right. Shane's wiki says that the night of sex was something Shane had wanted for a long time, so it wasn't something he said, but then I'm not real sure how the wiki would know that about him? The reference isn't specific.
I think it was never mentioned explicitly but it might be inferred. If you watch the very first scene after the teaser in the tv series in episode 1, there is something in the way Shane asks Rick about Lori that might hint he is asking more than just a friend. But to be fair that is looking at it with the knowledge of where the arc takes us.

 
Why are we talking so much about Lori cheating on Rick?? I completely forget. No idea why I have even been contibuting to it.

Maybe cause I am shocked that people are surprised she was mad at Shane, or that she would cheat so quickly. People, world ending, ZOMBIES!!!! I will never question something someone does if zombies were actually real.

 
I thought Shane and Lori boned ON THE WAY to Atlanta.

Lori wouldn't leave until Shane lied and told her Rick was dead.

So, she boned him within days of her husband's presumed death.
You're not thinking about when Shane and Andrea went out so Shane could teach Andrea how to defend herself against walkers? On the way back they stopped the vehicle and smashed.

I think.

 
You're not thinking about when Shane and Andrea went out so Shane could teach Andrea how to defend herself against walkers? On the way back they stopped the vehicle and smashed.

I think.
haha. She just grabs his junk. Shane: "well come on then". BANG

This might be the only show I decide to watch from start to finish for the 2nd time.

 
Definitely didn't look like their first time. I probably pulled Shane's "I've wanted this for so long" line from the book too, I'll be deferring to google/youtube from now on.
That line was not in the comics either. I posted earlier in the thread the only time they mentioned having sex in the comics.The last panels in issue 4 were:

Shane says, "But what about that night when we - on the road down here?" Lori, her back to Shane, says, "That night was a mistake."

===========

It is never explicitly mentioned again the comics.
You're right. Shane's wiki says that the night of sex was something Shane had wanted for a long time, so it wasn't something he said, but then I'm not real sure how the wiki would know that about him? The reference isn't specific.
I think it was never mentioned explicitly but it might be inferred. If you watch the very first scene after the teaser in the tv series in episode 1, there is something in the way Shane asks Rick about Lori that might hint he is asking more than just a friend. But to be fair that is looking at it with the knowledge of where the arc takes us.
You mean when Shane asks Rick about how much Lori squeels when she is penetrated doggy style?

 
I didn't realize they split the seasons until now. So they do this every time? 8 episodes, a break, then 8 more? What's the point of that? Build suspense? How long are the breaks usually?

Anyways, so the entire group is now together and in downtown Atlanta. Every enemy of theirs from past is now dead, and they have no home. Are there any more cast members from the wire to hire on? Maybe they can get snoop to be michonne's love interest?

The previews don't really indicate a direction. They aren't just going to DC just for lack of a better plan right?

 
Lori goading Rick into killing Shane and then getting pissed at Rick when he did was a pretty bat-chit crazy ### turn even by nutty AMC wife standards.
I enjoyed her ####### Shane, then getting pissed at Shane when Rick comes back like she did nothing wrong, then telling Shane not to ever talk to Carl, and then getting pissed at Shane for not talking to Carl. :)
So it's realistic...

 
I didn't realize they split the seasons until now. So they do this every time? 8 episodes, a break, then 8 more? What's the point of that? Build suspense? How long are the breaks usually?

Anyways, so the entire group is now together and in downtown Atlanta. Every enemy of theirs from past is now dead, and they have no home. Are there any more cast members from the wire to hire on? Maybe they can get snoop to be michonne's love interest?

The previews don't really indicate a direction. They aren't just going to DC just for lack of a better plan right?
In the 30 second trailer for the upcoming season:

Rick/Noah were talking about going to Virginia, where Noah is from. If I'm not misremembering, Rick (hospital group) is still split from Abraham's group, who are going to D.C. (or maybe not anymore..). both groups met up at the hospital at the end, and everyone knows Eugene lied about D.C.
 
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I didn't realize they split the seasons until now. So they do this every time? 8 episodes, a break, then 8 more? What's the point of that? Build suspense? How long are the breaks usually?
Many tv shows use this winter break format. It started about 5-7 years ago. The theory is that they can hype a "mid season finale" so they write the arcs to peak twice a season. Once at midseason and once at end of season.

Season 1 had 6 episodes, no break

Season 2 had 13 episodes, break from late Nov to early Feb

Season 3 had 16 episodes, break from Dec to early Feb

Season 4 had 16 episodes, break from Dec to early Feb

Season 5 has 16 episodes, break from late Nov to early Feb

 
I didn't realize they split the seasons until now. So they do this every time? 8 episodes, a break, then 8 more? What's the point of that? Build suspense? How long are the breaks usually?

Anyways, so the entire group is now together and in downtown Atlanta. Every enemy of theirs from past is now dead, and they have no home. Are there any more cast members from the wire to hire on? Maybe they can get snoop to be michonne's love interest?

The previews don't really indicate a direction. They aren't just going to DC just for lack of a better plan right?
In the 30 second trailer for the upcoming season:

Rick/Noah were talking about going to Virginia, where Noah is from. If I'm not misremembering, Rick (hospital group) is still split from Abraham's group, who are going to D.C. (or maybe not anymore..). Rick has a map that Abraham highlighted his intended route on. "The world needs Rick Grimes". All I got.
I think everyone is at the hospital now, except Morgan who appears to be on their trail. I didn't get from the finale that Noah was coming with Rick's group.

ETA: Just read up and it said Noah left with them. Yet another reason Tyreese is going to die.

 
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Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.

 
Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.
Yeah there's definitely potential for him to be a really interesting character if he'd just stop being a #####.

 
You're not thinking about when Shane and Andrea went out so Shane could teach Andrea how to defend herself against walkers? On the way back they stopped the vehicle and smashed.

I think.
haha. She just grabs his junk. Shane: "well come on then". BANG

This might be the only show I decide to watch from start to finish for the 2nd time.
Same here. I'll skip through a few things (nearly everything involving Andrea at Woodbury, for example) but I love watching the marathons on AMC. I immediately get sucked back into the old episodes again. Great stuff.

 
Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.
Yeah there's definitely potential for him to be a really interesting character if he'd just stop being a #####.
he'd be really interesting if he wasn't so boring

 
I didn't realize they split the seasons until now. So they do this every time? 8 episodes, a break, then 8 more? What's the point of that? Build suspense? How long are the breaks usually?

Anyways, so the entire group is now together and in downtown Atlanta. Every enemy of theirs from past is now dead, and they have no home. Are there any more cast members from the wire to hire on? Maybe they can get snoop to be michonne's love interest?

The previews don't really indicate a direction. They aren't just going to DC just for lack of a better plan right?
In the 30 second trailer for the upcoming season:

Rick/Noah were talking about going to Virginia, where Noah is from. If I'm not misremembering, Rick (hospital group) is still split from Abraham's group, who are going to D.C. (or maybe not anymore..). Rick has a map that Abraham highlighted his intended route on. "The world needs Rick Grimes". All I got.
I think everyone is at the hospital now, except Morgan who appears to be on their trail. I didn't get from the finale that Noah was coming with Rick's group.ETA: Just read up and it said Noah left with them. Yet another reason Tyreese is going to die.

Yes noah left with them

 
Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.
Yeah there's definitely potential for him to be a really interesting character if he'd just stop being a #####.
he'd be really interesting if he wasn't so boring
People said the farm episodes were boring then BAM!!!!! The barn scene.

Its coming. It better be anyway.

 
Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.
Yeah there's definitely potential for him to be a really interesting character if he'd just stop being a #####.
he'd be really interesting if he wasn't so boring
He's boring to me because the choices he tends to make are boring. He's had some good moments (none better than the scene where he forgave Carol) but not killing the Terminite and then not telling anyone he let him go pretty much sums up the character. It's not that I think everyone needs to be a killer in this world to exist (although it probably doesn't hurt) but he's just been so passive.

Maybe that's the point of what the writers are doing - this big, strong guy is really passive and can't bring himself to be stronger. But for me, it's making me less interested in him. Honestly, other than Judith he's the least interesting character on the show right now. I'm more interested to see what they do with Noah and the priest than I am with Tyreese at this point. I'm not ruling him out as generating interest down the road but he's got some work to do.

I also think some of this may be a reaction to what I thought was going to be this great amazing character because the comic readers were geeked up when he arrived in Season 3. Their excitement and what I read about how fired up they were may have led me to think this guy was really going to be a great character and he's fallen well short of that.

 
Do we really think Tyreese is dying or is it wishful thinking? He or Sasha or both may be available at 1.02 tomorrow. I've got this gut feeling about Sasha, although Beth was a big hit to the eye candy factor. Only Maggie, Rosita, and Tara left if Sasha went :cry:

 
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packersfan said:
El Floppo said:
packersfan said:
tommyboy said:
packersfan said:
Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.
Yeah there's definitely potential for him to be a really interesting character if he'd just stop being a #####.
he'd be really interesting if he wasn't so boring
He's boring to me because the choices he tends to make are boring. He's had some good moments (none better than the scene where he forgave Carol) but not killing the Terminite and then not telling anyone he let him go pretty much sums up the character. It's not that I think everyone needs to be a killer in this world to exist (although it probably doesn't hurt) but he's just been so passive.

Maybe that's the point of what the writers are doing - this big, strong guy is really passive and can't bring himself to be stronger. But for me, it's making me less interested in him. Honestly, other than Judith he's the least interesting character on the show right now. I'm more interested to see what they do with Noah and the priest than I am with Tyreese at this point. I'm not ruling him out as generating interest down the road but he's got some work to do.

I also think some of this may be a reaction to what I thought was going to be this great amazing character because the comic readers were geeked up when he arrived in Season 3. Their excitement and what I read about how fired up they were may have led me to think this guy was really going to be a great character and he's fallen well short of that.
Have to wonder if Rick and crew were just considering adding Tyrese to the group at this point, and conducted their usual entrance interview, whether he would make the cut?

 
packersfan said:
El Floppo said:
packersfan said:
tommyboy said:
packersfan said:
Tyreese is the least interesting character on the show right now in my opinion. Killing him off won't leave a mark.
he could morph into the most interesting character if he gives up the pacifist ##### guy he currently is and turns into a raging killer/volcano of mass destruction he should or apparently used to be.
Yeah there's definitely potential for him to be a really interesting character if he'd just stop being a #####.
he'd be really interesting if he wasn't so boring
He's boring to me because the choices he tends to make are boring. He's had some good moments (none better than the scene where he forgave Carol) but not killing the Terminite and then not telling anyone he let him go pretty much sums up the character. It's not that I think everyone needs to be a killer in this world to exist (although it probably doesn't hurt) but he's just been so passive.

Maybe that's the point of what the writers are doing - this big, strong guy is really passive and can't bring himself to be stronger. But for me, it's making me less interested in him. Honestly, other than Judith he's the least interesting character on the show right now. I'm more interested to see what they do with Noah and the priest than I am with Tyreese at this point. I'm not ruling him out as generating interest down the road but he's got some work to do.

I also think some of this may be a reaction to what I thought was going to be this great amazing character because the comic readers were geeked up when he arrived in Season 3. Their excitement and what I read about how fired up they were may have led me to think this guy was really going to be a great character and he's fallen well short of that.
Have to wonder if Rick and crew were just considering adding Tyrese to the group at this point, and conducted their usual entrance interview, whether he would make the cut?
How many people failed to make the cut on this? I never really saw this as just a data gathering point for Rick to judge them against later. Did he ever turn anyone away based on this?

 

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