***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[tdoss]

So that patrol of five or six have cleared a radius of 53 miles...and on foot?

Maybe supports on outside to keep people inside...instead of walkers out. Just makes no sense to be built that way.

 

[GregR]

Re-watched the first 2 episodes of the series, first time I've done so.

I had forgot how much different zombies acted back then. Children zombies stop to pick up stuffed animals to carry around. Zombies immediately know to try turning a door handle to get through a door. Zombies climbed chain link fences to get over them rather than just trying to push through mindlessly.

They also moved a lot faster back then, able to pretty much keep up with healthy Rick and Glenn as they ran. If we took any of this as being meaningful (as opposed to inconsistent writing), then you might suppose zombies are getting dumber and less physically able as they decompose. Once the muscles are decayed away they won't be able to move, so you could envision a day would come when all the zombies from the initial outbreak would stop being any kind of factor, and you'd just have to deal with the zombies of survivors who died more recently.

Also, when the scouting group is trapped in the department store, one of the zombies picks up a big stone to break the glass. That is a lot more intelligence then they have been showing in seasons 2-5.

Ah yes, meant to include that in my list of zombie behavior and forgot. Yes, they showed they were capable of using tools essentially.

 

[stbugs]

Re-watched the first 2 episodes of the series, first time I've done so.

I had forgot how much different zombies acted back then. Children zombies stop to pick up stuffed animals to carry around. Zombies immediately know to try turning a door handle to get through a door. Zombies climbed chain link fences to get over them rather than just trying to push through mindlessly.

They also moved a lot faster back then, able to pretty much keep up with healthy Rick and Glenn as they ran. If we took any of this as being meaningful (as opposed to inconsistent writing), then you might suppose zombies are getting dumber and less physically able as they decompose. Once the muscles are decayed away they won't be able to move, so you could envision a day would come when all the zombies from the initial outbreak would stop being any kind of factor, and you'd just have to deal with the zombies of survivors who died more recently.

Also, when the scouting group is trapped in the department store, one of the zombies picks up a big stone to break the glass. That is a lot more intelligence then they have been showing in seasons 2-5.

Pretty sure this was covered a long time ago in the old thread. I thought there were quotes from people in the show that the zombies did more than they were supposed to do in the first few shows, i.e. they shouldn't have been picking up stones and breaking glass and they shouldn't have been jumping and climbing. I can see where newly turned zombies could be faster because their bodies are healthier so to speak, but the stuff they were doing was a mistake IIRC.

 

[dhockster]

Wall supports on outside...to keep people in.

I was thinking the same thing. Also when Rick's group entered the compound and the camera focused on the gate closing. Felt very much like they were being imprisoned.

 

[jamny]

Good catch on the wolf comic title connection.

 

[packersfan]

Wall supports on outside...to keep people in.

I was thinking the same thing. Also when Rick's group entered the compound and the camera focused on the gate closing. Felt very much like they were being imprisoned.

No question that's the imagery they were going for there.

 

[packersfan]

Good catch on the wolf comic title connection.

Yeah it was really prominently displayed too. They clearly wanted the viewers to see it. Has to be a connection with what happened to Noah's family and that community. I recall Nicotero saying that episode was providing the groundwork for stuff to come later.

 

[stbugs]

If these are the wolves that took out Noah's family, I hope he gets his redemption on every one of them.

I don't think Alexandria are the wolves. I think the wolves are going to be the ones attacking Alexandria. The people of Alexandria are showing that they are too inexperienced to have pulled off an attack on Noah's community. Plus, as someone else said, with Enid having the Comic book that said "Wolf fight" on the back, I think it is very likely that she is a spy for the wolves and left the compound to update the Wolves on what is going on in the community.

Agreed, I definitely think that, although maybe she has been left behind. I need to re-watch it, but someone posted earlier that she had been there almost 8 months. Seems like a long time to to reconnaissance on a place that appears to be easy to take over. Shoot the couple people on patrol and you are basically done. Heck, the girl knows how to get in and out without being noticed, a group of 5-10 people could overrun that place easy. Kill almost everyone in their sleep.

If it has been 8 months, I am starting to think that maybe she isn't with a nefarious group doing recon. I can see her being left alone and being scared/not easily integrated (like Rick's group) and maybe she is going over the wall because she is looking for someone or just feels more comfortable out there.

 

[jamny]

Good catch on the wolf comic title connection.

Yeah it was really prominently displayed too. They clearly wanted the viewers to see it. Has to be a connection with what happened to Noah's family and that community. I recall Nicotero saying that episode was providing the groundwork for stuff to come later.

Makes sense that the girl is a spy for the group too. No reason why she would just run around out there alone.

 

[jamny]

If these are the wolves that took out Noah's family, I hope he gets his redemption on every one of them.

I don't think Alexandria are the wolves. I think the wolves are going to be the ones attacking Alexandria. The people of Alexandria are showing that they are too inexperienced to have pulled off an attack on Noah's community. Plus, as someone else said, with Enid having the Comic book that said "Wolf fight" on the back, I think it is very likely that she is a spy for the wolves and left the compound to update the Wolves on what is going on in the community.

Agreed, I definitely think that, although maybe she has been left behind. I need to re-watch it, but someone posted earlier that she had been there almost 8 months. Seems like a long time to to reconnaissance on a place that appears to be easy to take over. Shoot the couple people on patrol and you are basically done. Heck, the girl knows how to get in and out without being noticed, a group of 5-10 people could overrun that place easy. Kill almost everyone in their sleep.

If it has been 8 months, I am starting to think that maybe she isn't with a nefarious group doing recon. I can see her being left alone and being scared/not easily integrated (like Rick's group) and maybe she is going over the wall because she is looking for someone or just feels more comfortable out there.

She seemed like she went out with a purpose. Maybe she does just have a little safe place to hang out alone though.

 

[TenTimes]

If these are the wolves that took out Noah's family, I hope he gets his redemption on every one of them.

I don't think Alexandria are the wolves. I think the wolves are going to be the ones attacking Alexandria. The people of Alexandria are showing that they are too inexperienced to have pulled off an attack on Noah's community. Plus, as someone else said, with Enid having the Comic book that said "Wolf fight" on the back, I think it is very likely that she is a spy for the wolves and left the compound to update the Wolves on what is going on in the community.

 

[packersfan]

It's The Walking Dead so we know there's going to be a "regularly scheduled s**tstorm" as Abraham would say. The show has done the evil community thing twice now. They could go down that road again but something tells me Alexandria is what it seems to be and the inevitable threat to come will either be from the outside (i.e. "the wolves") or from Rick himself. Maybe both.

 

[lod01]

It's The Walking Dead so we know there's going to be a "regularly scheduled s**tstorm" as Abraham would say. The show has done the evil community thing twice now. They could go down that road again but something tells me Alexandria is what it seems to be and the inevitable threat to come will either be from the outside (i.e. "the wolves") or from Rick himself. Maybe both.

They have definitely written this in a way that they can go multiple directions.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Just as a overall annoyance. What is with the checking of weapons. In a real #### storm it is going wild west and there is no avoiding it.

I guess no one is real concerned about one of the old folks having a heart attack and eating everyone at night. Just reminds me of the unlocked prison doors.

Oh hey we are being invaded who has the key to the guns?

Also this video "audition" is not over. I would bet at some point they try to vote out Daryll because he doesn't fit in and they can't find a job for him, causing some friction. That is the only reason I can see to video taping the meet and greet to pass it around for voting or something.

On another note.

It was a really great tv moment when Carl walked into the bedroom with the kids who had know idea what was going on outside.

 

[jamny]

Why did they all have to huddle up in the living room? I definitely would have been snoozing in one of the bedrooms.

They're used to having someone stand guard/lookout.

 

[El Floppo]

If these are the wolves that took out Noah's family, I hope he gets his redemption on every one of them.

I don't think Alexandria are the wolves. I think the wolves are going to be the ones attacking Alexandria. The people of Alexandria are showing that they are too inexperienced to have pulled off an attack on Noah's community. Plus, as someone else said, with Enid having the Comic book that said "Wolf fight" on the back, I think it is very likely that she is a spy for the wolves and left the compound to update the Wolves on what is going on in the community.

Agreed, I definitely think that, although maybe she has been left behind. I need to re-watch it, but someone posted earlier that she had been there almost 8 months. Seems like a long time to to reconnaissance on a place that appears to be easy to take over. Shoot the couple people on patrol and you are basically done. Heck, the girl knows how to get in and out without being noticed, a group of 5-10 people could overrun that place easy. Kill almost everyone in their sleep.

If it has been 8 months, I am starting to think that maybe she isn't with a nefarious group doing recon. I can see her being left alone and being scared/not easily integrated (like Rick's group) and maybe she is going over the wall because she is looking for someone or just feels more comfortable out there.

She seemed like she went out with a purpose. Maybe she does just have a little safe place to hang out alone though.

given the 8 months, maybe she got to know the 3 people who got exiled... and is helping them.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

The greatest thing about this new story line is that we're all trying to ***** away the armor on Alexandria and we're waiting for the other shoe to drop and reveal this place for the evil we expect it to be. In all honesty, I think they have been fortunate to build something somewhat nice in an area that wasn't nearly as hard hit as Georgia (due to an extensive evacuation) and the other shoe might just be Rick.

 

[GregR]

Why did they all have to huddle up in the living room? I definitely would have been snoozing in one of the bedrooms.

They're used to having someone stand guard/lookout.

Because that's where Rosita slept.

 

[pantherclub]

Did they explain why she wanted to tape them?

Casting couch maybe? "For you to stay, I am going to need to see that you can follow instructions, so what I need for you to do now is ................."

 

[jamny]

Maybe Rick can get back to farming again.

 

[cstu]

If these are the wolves that took out Noah's family, I hope he gets his redemption on every one of them.

I don't think Alexandria are the wolves. I think the wolves are going to be the ones attacking Alexandria. The people of Alexandria are showing that they are too inexperienced to have pulled off an attack on Noah's community. Plus, as someone else said, with Enid having the Comic book that said "Wolf fight" on the back, I think it is very likely that she is a spy for the wolves and left the compound to update the Wolves on what is going on in the community.

Agreed, I definitely think that, although maybe she has been left behind. I need to re-watch it, but someone posted earlier that she had been there almost 8 months. Seems like a long time to to reconnaissance on a place that appears to be easy to take over. Shoot the couple people on patrol and you are basically done. Heck, the girl knows how to get in and out without being noticed, a group of 5-10 people could overrun that place easy. Kill almost everyone in their sleep.

If it has been 8 months, I am starting to think that maybe she isn't with a nefarious group doing recon. I can see her being left alone and being scared/not easily integrated (like Rick's group) and maybe she is going over the wall because she is looking for someone or just feels more comfortable out there.

Those were my thoughts. Place is highly insecure and would be no trouble to take over.

 

[packersfan]

Why did they all have to huddle up in the living room? I definitely would have been snoozing in one of the bedrooms.

They're used to having someone stand guard/lookout.

Because that's where Rosita slept.

When Michonne walked into the living room and asked "How long was I in there?" the scene should've included Rosita quietly walking in behind her with a smile on her face.

Another huge gaffe by the writers.

 

[pantherclub]

I'm not the only one who noticed the walls are braced on the outside, am I?

did you notice Carl is aging faster then Little ### Kicker?

 

[GregR]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

I briefly had this reaction too. But I would think the wall would be much stronger having the supports on the inside where the ground would help oppose any effort to push the wall in. Supports on the outside would be fighting getting tipped up out of the ground, losing that extra strength from the ground helping.

 

[mr roboto]

My prediction is that Alexandria will turn out to be a relatively genuine place filled with people who are trying to re-create a safe society. The only nefarious elements will be the main ladies son and maybe some standard soap opera jealousy or a love triangle stuff.

In the end I believe there is a group outside of the walls who pose a real threat to Alexandria and I also believe that there is a small group of leaders within Alexandria at that suspect or new this which is why they brought ricks group in.

 

[cstu]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

The greatest thing about this new story line is that we're all trying to ***** away the armor on Alexandria and we're waiting for the other shoe to drop and reveal this place for the evil we expect it to be. In all honesty, I think they have been fortunate to build something somewhat nice in an area that wasn't nearly as hard hit as Georgia (due to an extensive evacuation) and the other shoe might just be Rick.

Either way it makes no sense to have braces on the outside because the braces are to keep the wall from being pushed over (i.e. what a horde of zombies would do). They tried to do this to the prison fence but did it too late.

The braces are on the outside because the show is being filmed in a real PUD.

 

[cstu]

Re-watched the first 2 episodes of the series, first time I've done so.

I had forgot how much different zombies acted back then. Children zombies stop to pick up stuffed animals to carry around. Zombies immediately know to try turning a door handle to get through a door. Zombies climbed chain link fences to get over them rather than just trying to push through mindlessly.

They also moved a lot faster back then, able to pretty much keep up with healthy Rick and Glenn as they ran. If we took any of this as being meaningful (as opposed to inconsistent writing), then you might suppose zombies are getting dumber and less physically able as they decompose. Once the muscles are decayed away they won't be able to move, so you could envision a day would come when all the zombies from the initial outbreak would stop being any kind of factor, and you'd just have to deal with the zombies of survivors who died more recently.

Also, when the scouting group is trapped in the department store, one of the zombies picks up a big stone to break the glass. That is a lot more intelligence then they have been showing in seasons 2-5.

Pretty sure this was covered a long time ago in the old thread. I thought there were quotes from people in the show that the zombies did more than they were supposed to do in the first few shows, i.e. they shouldn't have been picking up stones and breaking glass and they shouldn't have been jumping and climbing. I can see where newly turned zombies could be faster because their bodies are healthier so to speak, but the stuff they were doing was a mistake IIRC.

Not a mistake in Darabont's vision.

 

[cstu]

So that patrol of five or six have cleared a radius of 53 miles...and on foot?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

What a great episode. Pretty much flawless. This show just keeps getting better and better.

 

[snogger]

Did they explain why she wanted to tape them?

Casting couch maybe? "For you to stay, I am going to need to see that you can follow instructions, so what I need for you to do now is ................."

She said they are for "Full transparency" so yea, it is to show to all people that are already there ..

Remember one of the first things they were told was he wanted to bring them back to an "Audition" and he wished there was a better term... because it sounded like a Dance audition which only happens on Fridays... which was responded to with

 

[Wingnut]

I hope the Priest gets eaten just because I hate seeing Sergeant Carver turned into something so pathetic.

He's nothing but a pu#sy shi#bird now.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

I briefly had this reaction too. But I would think the wall would be much stronger having the supports on the inside where the ground would help oppose any effort to push the wall in. Supports on the outside would be fighting getting tipped up out of the ground, losing that extra strength from the ground helping.

Not if you had significant cement anchors that the braces were tied to. Pushing on the wall would be trying to pull the anchors out which is tough versus trying to bury those anchors with houses around. I mean, sure, they probably did it for the sake of filming in an active community, but I don't think it's terrible design. I think it's still worth noting that you would rethink fortifications when dealing with Zombies versus people.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

The greatest thing about this new story line is that we're all trying to ***** away the armor on Alexandria and we're waiting for the other shoe to drop and reveal this place for the evil we expect it to be. In all honesty, I think they have been fortunate to build something somewhat nice in an area that wasn't nearly as hard hit as Georgia (due to an extensive evacuation) and the other shoe might just be Rick.

Either way it makes no sense to have braces on the outside because the braces are to keep the wall from being pushed over (i.e. what a horde of zombies would do). They tried to do this to the prison fence but did it too late.

The braces are on the outside because the show is being filmed in a real PUD.

In the case of the prison, the braces would bend or dig into the earth without sufficient anchors. With the braces on the outside, if secured the braces sufficiently to the wall, you'd be trying to pull the brace instead of bend/snap the brace. I'm no engineer, but I think that with sufficient anchors in place, that might be a stronger system if your goal is simply to prevent the wall from collapsing.

 

[nirad3]

edit - crap. :(

 

[cstu]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

The greatest thing about this new story line is that we're all trying to ***** away the armor on Alexandria and we're waiting for the other shoe to drop and reveal this place for the evil we expect it to be. In all honesty, I think they have been fortunate to build something somewhat nice in an area that wasn't nearly as hard hit as Georgia (due to an extensive evacuation) and the other shoe might just be Rick.

Either way it makes no sense to have braces on the outside because the braces are to keep the wall from being pushed over (i.e. what a horde of zombies would do). They tried to do this to the prison fence but did it too late.

The braces are on the outside because the show is being filmed in a real PUD.

In the case of the prison, the braces would bend or dig into the earth without sufficient anchors. With the braces on the outside, if secured the braces sufficiently to the wall, you'd be trying to pull the brace instead of bend/snap the brace. I'm no engineer, but I think that with sufficient anchors in place, that might be a stronger system if your goal is simply to prevent the wall from collapsing.

If the braces are welded to the wall and have deep enough footings it may work. I just think it's a poor design in reality.

 

[El Floppo]

I think if you're trying to keep PEOPLE out, wall supports on the outside is a terrible idea. However, if you're trying to keep Zombies out, then it doesn't really matter and the aesthetic inside would be far nicer without the supports visible.

The greatest thing about this new story line is that we're all trying to ***** away the armor on Alexandria and we're waiting for the other shoe to drop and reveal this place for the evil we expect it to be. In all honesty, I think they have been fortunate to build something somewhat nice in an area that wasn't nearly as hard hit as Georgia (due to an extensive evacuation) and the other shoe might just be Rick.

Either way it makes no sense to have braces on the outside because the braces are to keep the wall from being pushed over (i.e. what a horde of zombies would do). They tried to do this to the prison fence but did it too late.

The braces are on the outside because the show is being filmed in a real PUD.

In the case of the prison, the braces would bend or dig into the earth without sufficient anchors. With the braces on the outside, if secured the braces sufficiently to the wall, you'd be trying to pull the brace instead of bend/snap the brace. I'm no engineer, but I think that with sufficient anchors in place, that might be a stronger system if your goal is simply to prevent the wall from collapsing.

If the braces are welded to the wall and have deep enough footings it may work. I just think it's a poor design in reality.

compression is going to work better than tension... supports are on the wrong side of the wall.

plus- why open yourself up to leaving them exposed to whoever on the wrong side of the wall? stupid design.

 

[El Floppo]

So that patrol of five or six have cleared a radius of 53 miles...and on foot?

they have an rv and cars with bad gas.

 

[jamny]

Zombies won't climb the supports, but humans can.

 

[El Floppo]

What a great episode. Pretty much flawless. This show just keeps getting better and better.

first one in a while that you haven't seen, I'm guessing.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Buttress Chat Activated

 

[Loan Sharks]

So that patrol of five or six have cleared a radius of 53 miles...and on foot?

they have an rv and cars with bad gas.

And I think they said semi circle I don't think they said radius.

 

[El Floppo]

So that patrol of five or six have cleared a radius of 53 miles...and on foot?

they have an rv and cars with bad gas.

And I think they said semi circle I don't think they said radius.

straight line pizza?

 

[Loan Sharks]

Did Eugene say what he really was? I may have missed it.

 

[nirad3]

What a great episode. Pretty much flawless. This show just keeps getting better and better.

first one in a while that you haven't seen, I'm guessing.

Your sarcasm meter must need batteries.

 

[packersfan]

I know it's difficult getting everyone a lot to do with such a large cast (I don't think Maggie had a single line of dialogue last night, for example), but has Eugene said two full sentences since Abraham clocked him? Gotta find something for Mullet Man to do.

 

[identikit]

Did Eugene say what he really was? I may have missed it.

He said what he wasn't.

 

[kentric]

Just as a overall annoyance. What is with the checking of weapons. In a real #### storm it is going wild west and there is no avoiding it.

I guess no one is real concerned about one of the old folks having a heart attack and eating everyone at night. Just reminds me of the unlocked prison doors.

Oh hey we are being invaded who has the key to the guns?

Also this video "audition" is not over. I would bet at some point they try to vote out Daryll because he doesn't fit in and they can't find a job for him, causing some friction. That is the only reason I can see to video taping the meet and greet to pass it around for voting or something.

On another note.

It was a really great tv moment when Carl walked into the bedroom with the kids who had know idea what was going on outside.

I thought it was rather strange for the sequester of weapons. You'd think they would allow you to at least retain a revolver for emergencies. This would be useful if a group of non-zombie folk came a'callin. Right now, if the girl is an accomplis, she could throw a different lock around the gun locker and when they group came over the walls (if she didn't open the gates), they would go straight for the gun locker. They would then be able to take their time in going house to house killing the current homeowners.

eta: best zombie scene last night was when the skin of the zombie came off.

 

[mlball77]

Really enjoyed the ep this week. Seems like the group is mostly a mix of "we need this," such as Michonne and Glenn, and "this place will make us weak," such as Carl, Carol and Rick. Though, I'm sure they all have a mix of both of those mindsets.

So, what are the congresswoman's real intentions behind bringing Rick's family into the community? Manpower, muscle, zombie experience; all are obvious needs. But based on the congresswoman's response to her son being knocked down, it seems as though she may know her group is too soft. And I almost wonder if there is a power struggle or conflict already taking place in the community; thus, she is bringing on some muscle and a new constable to possibly keep that at bay.

 

[El Floppo]

What a great episode. Pretty much flawless. This show just keeps getting better and better.

first one in a while that you haven't seen, I'm guessing.

Your sarcasm meter must need batteries.

sarcasm batteries just fine... please recharge your reading batteries.

 

[El Floppo]

Really enjoyed the ep this week. Seems like the group is mostly a mix of "we need this," such as Michonne and Glenn, and "this place will make us weak," such as Carl, Carol and Rick. Though, I'm sure they all have a mix of both of those mindsets.

So, what are the congresswoman's real intentions behind bringing Rick's family into the community? Manpower, muscle, zombie experience; all are obvious needs. But based on the congresswoman's response to her son being knocked down, it seems as though she may know her group is too soft. And I almost wonder if there is a power struggle or conflict already taking place in the community; thus, she is bringing on some muscle and a new constable to possibly keep that at bay.

good stuff.

I'd further that the 3 exiles and their story will get us to the bottom of what you're asking.