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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (5 Viewers)

That red balloon tied to the boat reminded me of It.
I even expected Rick to morph into Pennywise the Clown when he was fighting with Pete."you'll all float, everyone floats!"

I do love the transformation of Rick to Shane.

Shane wants to kill Randall, Rick says no, we release him 18 miles away.

Rick wants to kill Pete, Deana says no, we exile him.

Shane beats up Ed, the wife beater.

Rick beats up Pete (sort of), the wife beater.

Shane covets Lori, another man's wife.

Rick covets Jesse, another man's wife.

The parallels are great.

 
Not to mention they ended last week with Gabriele's betrayal and not a peep about it this week. THAT, IMO, was the biggest failure of the week..

The first part of this week should have been Maggie talking to Rick, Glenn, or both explaining what she overheard..Instead we are left to wonder..

Did she tell them or did she keep it to herself?? :thumbdown:
This is going to get the fanbois panties in a bunch, but I hope Maggie is the surprise death.

Doesn't care that her sister is kidnapped and doesn't say anything when her group is being betrayed by a lying POS they saved.

 
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Not to mention they ended last week with Gabriele's betrayal and not a peep about it this week. THAT, IMO, was the biggest failure of the week..

The first part of this week should have been Maggie talking to Rick, Glenn, or both explaining what she overheard..Instead we are left to wonder..

Did she tell them or did she keep it to herself?? :thumbdown:
This is going to get the fanbois panties in a bunch, but I hope Maggie is the surprise death.

Doesn't care that her sister is kidnapped and doesn't say anything when her group is being betrayed by a lying POS they saved.
Been saying for the past couple weeks that if a Main character is going to die it would be Maggie.. Everyone other then Glenn who she loves has died..

Killing off Glenn now would just be overkill so having her be the Main character that gets killed, maybe accidentally by Rick, seems about right.. :popcorn:

 
I'm really enjoying Rick's descent. As I said last night his transformation into Shane is now complete. He's coveting another man's wife and insisting he can do everything better while lashing out at someone trying to cling to the way life used to be. His meltdown last night was outstanding. Only thing I enjoyed more was Michonne putting a rather abrupt end to it. :)

Another great episode in a terrific season.

 
Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.

 
Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.
Remember at Pete's house right before he came home and faught Rick, Pete's wife asked Rick if he'd do the same for anybody (protect her from her husband) and he said no.

 
Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.
I found it less interesting... more heavy handed with the similarities. Both lose their #### when they go primal. Ok.

Rick has turned feral, which IMO is why Michonne knocked him out. She saw it with Sasha and with her own flash backs- Alexandria gives them the opportunity to grab some humanity back, softness and all.

I liked the overall show, as usual found a bunch of it heavyhanded like above, but particularly Rick's discussion/showdown with Deanna... oh, sorry for your loss that I know you think we caused or did intentionally while you're still sussing us out... btw- let's execute the doctor for spousal abuse- whatcha think? good idea?

eta: because writers and plot devices.

 
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Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.
Remember at Pete's house right before he came home and faught Rick, Pete's wife asked Rick if he'd do the same for anybody (protect her from her husband) and he said no.
Agree. That's the surface layer of honesty. The fact that he hit his own son is a deeper layer IMHO.

 
Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.
I found it less interesting... more heavy handed with the similarities. Both lose their #### when they go primal. Ok.

Rick has turned feral, which IMO is why Michonne knocked him out. She saw it with Sasha and with her own flash backs- Alexandria gives them the opportunity to grab some humanity back, softness and all.
That and it gives the group time to move forward with another plan if necessary. Rick going out guns a blazing wasn't going to help anything. Michonne was quick to see that and stop it. Plus it could keep her on Den Mom's good side which may prove advantagous as well.

 
Rick really is Shane and Den Mom is Rick from Season 2. I really enjoy how everything has flipped and Rick is now the person he once was convinced was going to screw up everything and as a result had to be put down.

 
Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.
I found it less interesting... more heavy handed with the similarities. Both lose their #### when they go primal. Ok.

Rick has turned feral, which IMO is why Michonne knocked him out. She saw it with Sasha and with her own flash backs- Alexandria gives them the opportunity to grab some humanity back, softness and all.
That and it gives the group time to move forward with another plan if necessary. Rick going out guns a blazing wasn't going to help anything. Michonne was quick to see that and stop it. Plus it could keep her on Den Mom's good side which may prove advantagous as well.
I can buy all of that.

 
Rick really is Shane and Den Mom is Rick from Season 2. I really enjoy how everything has flipped and Rick is now the person he once was convinced was going to screw up everything and as a result had to be put down.
subtle it ain't- but yeah, I enjoy it too.
It's about as subtle as the walker with the W carved in its head walking RIGHT INTO THE CAMERA SHOT SO NO ONE COULD MISS IT last night :) but I think it's a great character turn.

 
Rick really is Shane and Den Mom is Rick from Season 2. I really enjoy how everything has flipped and Rick is now the person he once was convinced was going to screw up everything and as a result had to be put down.
subtle it ain't- but yeah, I enjoy it too.
It's about as subtle as the walker with the W carved in its head walking RIGHT INTO THE CAMERA SHOT SO NO ONE COULD MISS IT last night :) but I think it's a great character turn.
how long did it take LLBean and Darryl to cross that meadow to the campfire? 2 days?

next week has to involve the Ws, right? and of course, Rick is going to be locked up. and Deanna won't let any of the gang have weapons, etc, etc.

 
and nobody really talked about that scene... pretty brutal.

If I understood this right- the Ws tied a live girl naked to the tree for the walkers to eat, right before the guys get there? most appropriate/creative use of entrails to cover up frontal nudity in tv history.

 
The writing for Rick's character is awful - we're supposed to believe the he got the hots for porchdick's wife and totally lost his mind? Wait, nm, it's a zombie show.
I think that story line is forced. Granted, it's a tv show that they have to squeeze into a certain amount of episodes but they didn't waste no time before Rick tries to save his love interest from her hubby. She doesn't even know him.
:goodposting:

If Rick had known Jessie for more than 5 minutes, it may have worked better.

 
The preview for the finale shows Rick walking and talking to Glenn in the white t-shirt, and it also shows the preacher standing outside the gate in a white t-shirt with the gate being opened. Wonder what's going on there? Was he exiled and the gate is actually closing?

 
and nobody really talked about that scene... pretty brutal.

If I understood this right- the Ws tied a live girl naked to the tree for the walkers to eat, right before the guys get there? most appropriate/creative use of entrails to cover up frontal nudity in tv history.
It seems strange that the walkers didn't clean her better than they did. I thought it was possible that The "W"'s tied her up and raped her.. cut up her partner and took his head/torso with them and then slashed her open on their way out, sort of a dinner bell for the walkers?

Daryl said "This just happened", but why would walkers dine on her for a few minutes and then just disappear. There was a lot of meat on her bones, it appeared.

 
and nobody really talked about that scene... pretty brutal.

If I understood this right- the Ws tied a live girl naked to the tree for the walkers to eat, right before the guys get there? most appropriate/creative use of entrails to cover up frontal nudity in tv history.
It seems strange that the walkers didn't clean her better than they did. I thought it was possible that The "W"'s tied her up and raped her.. cut up her partner and took his head/torso with them and then slashed her open on their way out, sort of a dinner bell for the walkers?

Daryl said "This just happened", but why would walkers dine on her for a few minutes and then just disappear. There was a lot of meat on her bones, it appeared.
maybe she was the lure for the walkers that the Ws cut up?

"makes sense" and much of this doesn't really jibe...

 
Interesting irony where Pete hit his wife instinctively when she tried to break up the fight with Rick, and then Rick did the same to his own son moments later. Interesting facet to the question of whether there are morals/principles driving Rick's conduct or if he's just plain in love and not above hitting his own family member to that end.
I found it less interesting... more heavy handed with the similarities. Both lose their #### when they go primal. Ok.

Rick has turned feral, which IMO is why Michonne knocked him out. She saw it with Sasha and with her own flash backs- Alexandria gives them the opportunity to grab some humanity back, softness and all.

I liked the overall show, as usual found a bunch of it heavyhanded like above, but particularly Rick's discussion/showdown with Deanna... oh, sorry for your loss that I know you think we caused or did intentionally while you're still sussing us out... btw- let's execute the doctor for spousal abuse- whatcha think? good idea?

eta: because writers and plot devices.
+1

I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking of writing a post saying that Rick was acting rabid.

 
:2cents: Nicholas getting Rick's hidden gun is a swerve for Glenn getting killed.
So we thinking Maggie takes a bullet for Glenn?
Meh, could be. I think Glenn might meet his maker closer in line w/ the comic book storyline. Nicholas and the gun is a magician's trick to move your eye to distract you from where the action really is.

More walkers at gate + W crew+ gun free environment + season finale = Alexandria dinner party.

 
The writing for Rick's character is awful - we're supposed to believe the he got the hots for porchdick's wife and totally lost his mind? Wait, nm, it's a zombie show.
I think that story line is forced. Granted, it's a tv show that they have to squeeze into a certain amount of episodes but they didn't waste no time before Rick tries to save his love interest from her hubby. She doesn't even know him.
:goodposting:

If Rick had known Jessie for more than 5 minutes, it may have worked better.
She may not be the proverbial "last woman on earth," but as far as Rick knows, she could be in the last dozen or so. I think Rick's showing good taste here in claiming her. I'd claim that.

 
Not to mention they ended last week with Gabriele's betrayal and not a peep about it this week. THAT, IMO, was the biggest failure of the week..

The first part of this week should have been Maggie talking to Rick, Glenn, or both explaining what she overheard..Instead we are left to wonder..

Did she tell them or did she keep it to herself?? :thumbdown:
This is going to get the fanbois panties in a bunch, but I hope Maggie is the surprise death.

Doesn't care that her sister is kidnapped and doesn't say anything when her group is being betrayed by a lying POS they saved.
:goodposting:

Also, if it comes down to it, the show would be much more interesting moving forward if Maggie bit it and Glenn had to deal with the loss than the other way around.

Those ##### better not kill off Glenn.

 
The writing for Rick's character is awful - we're supposed to believe the he got the hots for porchdick's wife and totally lost his mind? Wait, nm, it's a zombie show.
I think that story line is forced. Granted, it's a tv show that they have to squeeze into a certain amount of episodes but they didn't waste no time before Rick tries to save his love interest from her hubby. She doesn't even know him.
:goodposting:

If Rick had known Jessie for more than 5 minutes, it may have worked better.
She may not be the proverbial "last woman on earth," but as far as Rick knows, she could be in the last dozen or so. I think Rick's showing good taste here in claiming her. I'd claim that.
Michonne.

And he wouldn't need to worry about porchdick or getting kicked out of/murdering all the people of Alexandria.

 
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Rick really is Shane and Den Mom is Rick from Season 2. I really enjoy how everything has flipped and Rick is now the person he once was convinced was going to screw up everything and as a result had to be put down.
subtle it ain't- but yeah, I enjoy it too.
I agree.

One thing that Rick has going for him, and that Shane didn't, is that he's got his kids to think about. Maybe Judith in particular pulls him back from the abyss, and literally ends up being the saving grace for Rick.

 
I think the lady from Community hit it on the head last night with her take on Rick/Jessie and how Jessie represents Rick's need to save someone and reclaim the family he lost when Lori died. This is his chance to try and get it right this time.

But since he's all Hardcore Primitive Shane now he's just going about it with the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

 
I was thinking about the Goveror's town... before Rick got there, what was the worst that was happening? ####### with zombies, ####### with people who got on the wrong side of the "law"/governor by putting them in a zombie battle ground (or did I remember that from another one of these shows/movies?). Governor was obviously a psychopath, but for the hoi-poiloi- didn't they have a good thing going... until Rick and his gang ####ed their world up? Or am I forgetting more of the crazy ####.

 
I was thinking about the Goveror's town... before Rick got there, what was the worst that was happening? ####### with zombies, ####### with people who got on the wrong side of the "law"/governor by putting them in a zombie battle ground (or did I remember that from another one of these shows/movies?). Governor was obviously a psychopath, but for the hoi-poiloi- didn't they have a good thing going... until Rick and his gang ####ed their world up? Or am I forgetting more of the crazy ####.
In Rick's defense he was just rescuing people the Governor was holding hostage and torturing.

But we've been traveling down the road of just how good are Rick and his group really. That's been a huge theme of the show for awhile now. Last night Rick drove straight off the deep end.

 
Sloppy writing and pacing on the show, IMO simply for the reason that they've subtlety bludgeoned us over the head so much with the menace of "the Wolves" that all the problems happening in Alexandria right now just seem flat out dumb. Why would I be invested in all of this more humane "man trying to find himself" drama when I KNOW all of these people are about to severely get got? (As much as I'd like to see it)...it's not like the Wolves are showing up with matching satin gang jackets, snapping their fingers and challenging Alexandria to a dance off.......they're bad dudes and they've forces that down our throats.

This arc feels so much more rushed than it probably should have been. At least give me half season of "adjustment" storylines before you even start teasing these Wolves.

 
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I was thinking about the Goveror's town... before Rick got there, what was the worst that was happening? ####### with zombies, ####### with people who got on the wrong side of the "law"/governor by putting them in a zombie battle ground (or did I remember that from another one of these shows/movies?). Governor was obviously a psychopath, but for the hoi-poiloi- didn't they have a good thing going... until Rick and his gang ####ed their world up? Or am I forgetting more of the crazy ####.
If Rick lost Carl and Judith he'd be no different than the Governor. Wish someone (Michonne) would throw that in his face in the finale.

 

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