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He was the best character in Love Actually but yeah this is gonna be a tough one for him to shake.
Not to defend them doing this, as I thought it was pretty dumb too... but the woman who played the leader said something to the effect that they lived in a sort of hive or series of hives in the junk yard (the open circles) and the circle inside the other circle was to mimic that hive mentality.
I just didn't get it. Wasn't impressed with this group to be honest. If I'm Rick I forget I ever met them.I know. It was dumb.
Guess he's just looking at numbers now. Hasn't had time to go through and vet each person to see if he/she can fight.
Yeah that part made sense. He needs numbers so I understand the appeal of him seeing a large group. But after close examination and hearing how the leader can't speak in proper sentences I'd get back to Alexandria, laugh at 'em and then move on. They got the drop on Rick only because of their superior numbers. They didn't appear to possess anything else of value.
That would seem to make sense although big picture wise Carl is probably the one character who could survive and evolve into the main character in another decade or so along with Judith.
this would drive me nuts too though, because the flaws of the show aren't with the story. it isn't like Kirkman doesn't have good stories to tell, even after this plot line with Negan. It is that the execution is actually getting worse instead of better.
The Kid is definitely gonna die. He's getting too much screen time all of the sudden for him not to die. They show him in the background a lot practicing. I told my wife he was a goner in the 1st episode of the 2nd half.Well, that is it isn't it??? In order to take down the Saviors they are going to need numbers and weapons..
While the number of guns this group had was limited, it is a large group and thus gives Rick what he has been looking for the last couple of weeks... Numbers to attack with.
Myon how Carol, Morgan and the Kingdom comes into play...
Someone from the Kingdom that matters to the King, and in the end to Carol & Morgan, is going to get killed. Although losing Richard would be a shock, I don't think that would be enough.. So who is left?? The Kid..
The King feels fully responsible for his parents deaths and so has "adopted" him... Morgan has taken the kid under his wings to train and teach.. Carol so far only had one run in with him, but showed enough "compassion" to teach him how to handle himself in the woods..
Thus, I think the Kid gets killed in a couple of weeks, sending The King, Morgan and Carol into a full out rage to get revenge.
I thought the show was still damn good at the end of last season and after this season's premiere. As I've said I admire what Gimple has tried to with telling a unique type of story for this show but since the season premiere everything has just felt off. There have been a few times when everything connected like it had before but that hasn't happened often. Even last week's episode, which I thought was solid, was one of the best of the season but nowhere near the level we've seen so often before. I don't know if it's the current storyline that just isn't completely working, the writing, both or what but it's just not completely connecting.
there was a good graph that was floating around the internet that showed the ratings and the trajectory show. for like the last 5 seasons The show always has a good premiere and a good finale. And for the most part everything in between is filler and nosedives
I'm not talking about ratings, though. I'm talking about the quality. It's obviously subjective but I thought the show was damn good through Season 6 and then to begin Season 7. But since the premiere the quality just hasn't been the same. Again, I'm not sure if it's just the storyline, the writing, both or other factors but it just hasn't connected with me like nearly every other season did. I had plenty of issues with Season 3 which, until now, I have always considered the weakest season for the series.
yeah, it was more of a trend that seems to keep coming in. to be honest with these half seasons like they are they kind of lump together for me. I did think season 6 was pretty good, but if I remember season 5 was atrocious (but I can fully admit I can't remember what happened every season anymore).
agreed, but it kind of had to happen. That issue #100 of the comic series has become the essence of the story so far, and they had to kill off a character that people were really connected to emotionally. If they kept him alive it would have been a real crappy move. If I had to guess, when they discussed this in season 2 and 3 they probably thought to kill off Darell by now, but they are too concerned to do that, especially with how the ratings continue to drop. But he would have been a good substitute there in that season that would have carried weight. I wonder if they didn't have the fake out at the end of the season before, and that episode was a 2-hour long special, if it would have been done better.
Game of Thrones is one of the best shows in TV history. You could make an argument it's the GOAT. I don't think saying TWD doesn't measure up is a criticism of this show. Hardly any show matches up. That's how good GOT is.
i think what the comic did better then the show was that they grew other characters around the same time when Glenn died. I think the TV show could do more with Jesus' character to make him someone fans could care about more, etc. they just seem like they haven't created too many character outside of the original group, except for Eugene and Ezekiel's right hand man. And it isn't like people are extremely emotionally attached to them either. it is like they spend entire episodes on character development, and then at the end of those episodes they haven't created anything for the viewers to gravitate toward those characters anymore.
Definitely think Jesus could be a stronger character and hope to see that. Same with Ezekiel. Of the most recently introduced characters they're the ones I'm most interested in now along with Negan.
lol yeah they didn't capture Dwight very good either. Might have been their continual hopping back and forth with him. But i didn't like him a ton in the comic either.
i think it has to. I know the backlash from last season's "cliffhanger" was pretty passionate. And i know some say it was ok, but i can't imagine they would want to do that kind of thing again with a potential showdown.
I thought there were way too many people butt hurt about the cliffhanger when it's common practice on TV. Hell, this show has done it before too and people didn't lose their chit about it. In any event I don't know when we'll finally get to the war that seems inevitable but I would hope it's not the final shot of Season 7. I'll go back to Season 3 and the mistakes Mazarra made in terms of providing buildup for Rick vs. The Governor without a satisfying payoff. Hopefully Gimple has learned from that.
I really don't get how this half season suddenly stands out as worse. Obviously the first 2.5 seasons were on a different planet from everything since then but everything since has been pretty consistent. A handful of really good moments, a handful of laughable moments, and a lot of interesting but no longer great in between.
Well like I said it is subjective. I thought the backhalf of Season 4 through Season 6 was pretty damn great TV. I thought Gimple took over and really made the show beyond what it had been before (and it was pretty damn good before in my opinion). I can't put my finger on what's felt off about this season since the premiere. It's easy to say "It sucks" or something like that but I don't believe it sucked before. It wasn't always exceptional - few TV series are, even Breaking Bad had the silly fly episode - but I was a happy fan through the premiere of Season 7.
Well they killed off any chance of making this emotional connection by doing it the way they did. Ned was emotional not just because it was Ned, but because it was shocking. Shane was emotional for the same reason. Lori/T-Dog again. It was some random middle of the season episode and all of the sudden two major characters were just gone, out of the blue. They were much less beloved than Glenn but it was still much more emotional because of the way it was done.
So glad I avoid spoilers. I was shocked when it happened. My guess was Abe would go but I wasn't expecting two deaths. When they killed Abe instead of Glenn I figured they were just re-working the storyline as they often do.
You've brought up GoT and BB now and that's kind of the thing. After 2.5 seasons this show WAS talked about in the same sentences of those shows. But those shows just kept getting better and this one took several major steps backwards and you're right, you can't even mention them in the same sentence now. Not even the same paragraph.
Ditto here. So many places, so many spoilers and I want to be surprised by what happens and what new characters are coming and going etc.
the bolded i think is what gets me the most aggravated. and i have hear the talk about shows falling off after a few years, but I think the one's that do are the one's without the source material that has lasted years. I know there was discussion 5-7 years ago because a lot of shows would write for 1 season because networks were quick to pull them if they didn't catch on. The problem was the show would catch on, and then the writers have to make up additional seasons and sometimes not even have an end goal in mind. That was why BB did it great, they saw their end goal, realized their story was coming to an end, and ended it before they dragged it out forever.
i think you got this all wrong here, and you are letting these guys off the hook. We all know that the show isn't all about zombies, yada, yada. It is a good story with different plot lines throughout that the TV show seems to not be interested in, or capable of doing. And like has been mentioned the first 2 seasons were that, and were on par with GOT, etc.
Yeah as much as I love this show I wouldn't put it among the handful of greatest in TV history. I don't consider it a knock on the show to say it's not as good as Thrones or Breaking Bad. I'm not sure I can name more than 5-10 ever made that would be in the discussion with them. But that doesn't mean TWD isn't damn good. It has been for six seasons in my opinion. This season has been the weakest to date but we'll see how the remaining episodes go. Maybe it'll be the flip version of Season 2 (strong finish after a so-so start).
my expectations were "lower" going into this series then what I expected from say BB or even 24 due to the fact the show is basically a live action comic book.
This show has far and away surpassed my expectations.
With those expectations I have enjoyed most of the episodes.. sure there are clunker episodes or parts of an episode.. But in the end I've enjoyed all 7 years and look forward to more "comic book" stuff like the tiger pet.
You'd have to pay me to watch a show only because my SO watched.. My wife & daughter have watched every episode of every season of supernatural(I think there are 11 or 12 now) and I have yet to watch one full episode... If a show doesn't interest me I'm not going to waste time watching it.
