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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

wlwiles said:
I second this.  Give me Maggie all day.  I still have visions of her riding up on that horse in S2.   Mmmmm farmer's daughter...
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I'm a fan of that Maggie as well.  She's gone downhill at a remarkable pace tho.  Rosita easily replaced Maggie for a few seasons but her recent bout with anorexia has me rethinking my charts.  

 
With a lot of dooms day scenarios the supplies (food, water, vehicles, guns etc.) go scarce because the infrastructure comes to a halt, BUT, you still have the entire population to support.  You don't have this problem with a mass zombie or virus outbreak; as playin4beer pointed out Last Man on Earth got it right.  Unless you were stuck for some reason in a rural area basic supplies wouldn't be a problem after just 2 years.  TWD at first addressed this and had Atlanta too dangerous to get close to because of the zombie population, but, they gave up on the idea of isolation when they moved the group to Alexandria.

 
There are 16 Costcos within about a 30 mile radius of downtown Alexandria.  There are 10 military bases around DC, obviously including the pentagon, and another 27 of them in Virginia.  And where is this seaside community?  Did they drive all the way to Ocean Side passing right through DC or Virginia Beach passing right through Richmond or are they just on the Potomac River?   :lmao:

 
Dr Oadi said:
Why does rick always do stupid #### or send other people to do stupid ####? 

Lazy writers?
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Didn't see a comment on it but...Michonne watching Rick coast away in the vehicle with no brakes....jumps in the trunk and slams it shut. Who the #### wrote that stupidity?

 
lod001 said:
Didn't see a comment on it but...Michonne watching Rick coast away in the vehicle with no brakes....jumps in the trunk and slams it shut. Who the #### wrote that stupidity?
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OMG, I forgot about that. How about the simple throw the damn car in park solution? He put it in neutral to let it roll. Just put it in park. Heck, just jump out and let it run over a few zombies. Still a lot easier to kill the zombies as they funnel through one hole in the fence or if you are smart, stand in front of the fence (not the hole) and they likely congregate at the fence since they probably will go the direct route and not figure out the hole in the fence. Even if one gets through, you can kill that while having the rest still at the fence.

That was almost as bad as the CGI deer. Thank god for the sunroof. Oh, and thank god the zombie who was shooting at them decided to just stop. I am not even going to discuss the physics of how that zombie ran straight into the bars but somehow got the trigger caught on one.

Note that I would have loved the CGI deer if they had just jumped into one of the carnival booths and summoned the spirit of Woody Harrelson.

 
snogger said:
This I can agree with.. Annoying and stupid.. From what I've read this group didn't exist in the comics so the writers are improvising, and failing miserably with this group. :thumbdown:
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Definitely, Definitely not in the comics. This storyline in the comics was considered one of the best arcs across all comics, and AMC and these writers have literally just decided to just piss all over it. It is truly infuriating

 
packersfan said:
The ratings have declined which isn't surprising for a show in its seventh season. But they're still at a level that's the envy of TV cable dramas. But this season has been the most criticized (sometimes fairly; sometimes not) so it will be interesting to see how the ratings go the remainder of this season and at the start of Season 8. 
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i actually thought the whole Glenn fiasco was where the criticism peaked and a lot of the TV critics even started tuning out. Combine that with the same old plot speed (good premiere, good end of the season, and a ton of filler that hurts the story instead of just telling it in between), and to be honest i am surprised people are still criticizing. Walking Dead has burned it's audience a few times, if you are still sticking around at this point and watching i think you have just come to accept it, and go from there. 

It still is uterly amazing that this comic storyline was considered one of the best in a long time, and AMC and the writers have decided to not really utilize it. My only thought is that maybe AMC thought this should have only been 4-5 years, and so now they are just flat out milking everything they possibly can assuming they will beat the audience to the point that their ratings will unrecoverable. 

the shame is that there is still a lot of story to tell. I know everyone is speaking of the coming "war" but post-war has some real interesting stuff, that I honestly have 0 faith the show will do correctly. Kirkman really did do a good job in the comic to peak at the "war" and amazingly still create stuff after that is engaging enough that the comic still stands by itself pretty good

 
The only good thing about the Garbage Pail Kids from the show's perspective is that it provides lots of fodder for the show to kill off during the war.

Do any of them have experience with guns or fighting? It probably won't matter. I remember how Rick's group were shooting zombies from a distance in a fast moving vehicle at the end of season 2 at Hershel's farm. Natural snipers.

 
modogg said:
i actually thought the whole Glenn fiasco was where the criticism peaked and a lot of the TV critics even started tuning out. Combine that with the same old plot speed (good premiere, good end of the season, and a ton of filler that hurts the story instead of just telling it in between), and to be honest i am surprised people are still criticizing. Walking Dead has burned it's audience a few times, if you are still sticking around at this point and watching i think you have just come to accept it, and go from there. 

It still is uterly amazing that this comic storyline was considered one of the best in a long time, and AMC and the writers have decided to not really utilize it. My only thought is that maybe AMC thought this should have only been 4-5 years, and so now they are just flat out milking everything they possibly can assuming they will beat the audience to the point that their ratings will unrecoverable. 

the shame is that there is still a lot of story to tell. I know everyone is speaking of the coming "war" but post-war has some real interesting stuff, that I honestly have 0 faith the show will do correctly. Kirkman really did do a good job in the comic to peak at the "war" and amazingly still create stuff after that is engaging enough that the comic still stands by itself pretty good
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I don't read the comics so I don't know what goes on there and how it may compare and honestly - and I'm not trying to be a Richard - I don't care. The show is its own entity for me and until this season I thought it had been outstanding. Even after the Glenn stuff last season which I agree was done poorly the rest of the season was damn good in my opinion and the finale terrific. The premiere this season was great too but since then the season simply has not been all that compelling. Some strong moments here and there (I thought the Eugene episode, for example, was really good) but not the level of consistency I've seen before. Whether that's a sign the show is trending down or just a weak season remains to be seen.

I look back at how Season 3 wasn't up to snuff in most regards either but then Seasons 4, 5 and 6 were damn good. So this could be a blip on the radar. I'll feel more comfortable assessing the show's future when we see this season in its entirety. 

 
packersfan said:
I don't read the comics so I don't know what goes on there and how it may compare and honestly - and I'm not trying to be a Richard - I don't care. The show is its own entity for me and until this season I thought it had been outstanding. Even after the Glenn stuff last season which I agree was done poorly the rest of the season was damn good in my opinion and the finale terrific. The premiere this season was great too but since then the season simply has not been all that compelling. Some strong moments here and there (I thought the Eugene episode, for example, was really good) but not the level of consistency I've seen before. Whether that's a sign the show is trending down or just a weak season remains to be seen.

I look back at how Season 3 wasn't up to snuff in most regards either but then Seasons 4, 5 and 6 were damn good. So this could be a blip on the radar. I'll feel more comfortable assessing the show's future when we see this season in its entirety. 
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My :2cents: is they knew this season was going to be all about setting up the war, and really there is only so much you can do there so you get a lot of "Filler" episodes trying to get us there.

Also, would have helped if they wouldn't spend an episode focusing entirely on one "group".. It wouldn't lose any of the impact of having episodes "broken up" with segments of each group.

Have a feeling the finale will leave us hanging a b it, but will probably be intense and lead us to, what should be, a great Season 8 depending on how long they intend to let the war wage on. :

 
snogger said:
My :2cents: is they knew this season was going to be all about setting up the war, and really there is only so much you can do there so you get a lot of "Filler" episodes trying to get us there.

Also, would have helped if they wouldn't spend an episode focusing entirely on one "group".. It wouldn't lose any of the impact of having episodes "broken up" with segments of each group.

Have a feeling the finale will leave us hanging a b it, but will probably be intense and lead us to, what should be, a great Season 8 depending on how long they intend to let the war wage on. :
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I think they could have done a better job in the first half of mixing in more characters into episodes. Devoting an entire episode to Tara wasn't necessary. Introducing Oceanside could have done without forgetting Rick, Maggie, Daryl and others. 

 
The Big Guy said:
Depending on when the outpost fell, it would be one of those places that a lot of people might avoid because there are so many dead there to take on, so it was still untouched.
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Yet two people armed with hand to hand weapons dispatched of the entire lot. Rick freaks out when up against one armor spiked walker but 50-100 are no problem for he and Michonne.

I'll admit that there probably wasn't an easy answer to how Rick and company were going to come up with an arsenal of guns in short order to fight the war but I found the one provided incredibly stupid.  :thumbdown:

 
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El Floppo said:
lol... I completely blocked that one out of my noggin. is that the same one with the wolves? what was their deal, anyways?
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Yeah, they trapped survivors, robbed them and then used them as bait.  Always using their moniker "W" or wolves were here.   They attacked Alexandra and Morgan had their leader, Owen,  tied up in the basement.  There were only a few left after that and Rick killed some outside the RV leaving Owen as the lone wolf.  When Owen escapes during a zombie raid he is shot by Carol, turns into a zombie and then wiped out by Morgan and his staff.

 
tonydead said:
Yeah, they trapped survivors, robbed them and then used them as bait.  Always using their moniker "W" or wolves were here.   They attacked Alexandra and Morgan had their leader, Owen,  tied up in the basement.  There were only a few left after that and Rick killed some outside the RV leaving Owen as the lone wolf.  When Owen escapes during a zombie raid he is shot by Carol, turns into a zombie and then wiped out by Morgan and his staff.
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well, yeah... but what was their deal?

 
cockroach said:
that ####### deer was so poorly CGI'd I wasn't sure if I was hallucinating it or not at first
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I really thought Rick was hallucinating.  I could have sworn you could see through parts of the deer, like it was a ghost or something.

Plus there's no way a non-hallucination deer would be casually hanging out & grazing while a bunch of people/zombies were right nearby acting erratically and making a ton of noise.  But I guess that goes without saying.

 
JohnnyU said:
Ever notice no one ever dies from ordinary infections?  You know antibiotics are almost impossible to obtain.
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If we wanted to "go there," there are a lot of things that are basically too good to be true. With a limited food supply, it appears many of the characters gained weight instead of losing any. They also seem to usually appear pretty clean and well dressed . . . their clothes look to be in decent shape, they normally have decent haircuts, etc. It seems like they scavenge for guns and sometimes food, but not a lot of clothing / footwear / outerwear, etc.

Medicine and dentistry would be coming into play by now as well. The food they scavenge for would likely be stale or past the point of being edible. Even if they came across a supermarket that hadn't been touched at all, realistically, how much of food that is 2+ years old would still be safe to eat?

Although there has been some debate over the following, it's questionable if the vehicles could still run well on the gasoline that's available (could be too old and sludgy). Also they would need general maintenance and repairs, which might be in short supply. I also find it odd that the vehicles they found that work are old and not in great shape to begin with. The abandoned cars are also all old. Did anyone drive recent makes and models?

I am also curious at what point would groups decide that it is too much effort to go out and collect things, ie too far away to go out and search and come back, before they decide it's time to move to a new location. Maybe there's more available locally than anticipated (as others have said, there are probably lots of shopping areas available locally), but they usually show them going house to house, not store to store. They could probably load up on apparel at a mall, but they just haven't shown anyone do that.

 
Anarchy99 said:
If we wanted to "go there," there are a lot of things that are basically too good to be true. With a limited food supply, it appears many of the characters gained weight instead of losing any. They also seem to usually appear pretty clean and well dressed . . . their clothes look to be in decent shape, they normally have decent haircuts, etc. It seems like they scavenge for guns and sometimes food, but not a lot of clothing / footwear / outerwear, etc.

Medicine and dentistry would be coming into play by now as well. The food they scavenge for would likely be stale or past the point of being edible. Even if they came across a supermarket that hadn't been touched at all, realistically, how much of food that is 2+ years old would still be safe to eat?

Although there has been some debate over the following, it's questionable if the vehicles could still run well on the gasoline that's available (could be too old and sludgy). Also they would need general maintenance and repairs, which might be in short supply. I also find it odd that the vehicles they found that work are old and not in great shape to begin with. The abandoned cars are also all old. Did anyone drive recent makes and models?

I am also curious at what point would groups decide that it is too much effort to go out and collect things, ie too far away to go out and search and come back, before they decide it's time to move to a new location. Maybe there's more available locally than anticipated (as others have said, there are probably lots of shopping areas available locally), but they usually show them going house to house, not store to store. They could probably load up on apparel at a mall, but they just haven't shown anyone do that.
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Older cars are simpler to work on and easier to maintain.  I can keep a 70s dodge van running and maybe even bring one back from near death but if my 2015 truck stopped running I'd be ####ed.

And they loaded up on clothes in addition to the guns and food.  

 
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Yeah, I think all the actors should starve themselves so that it looks more realistic.  Until then I am just not buying what I am watching.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Yeah, I think all the actors should starve themselves so that it looks more realistic.  Until then I am just not buying what I am watching.
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Right - zombies are totally believable.  Humans staying clean and the soles of their boots not falling apart?  That's a bridge too far. 

If we're only 628 days into the apocalypse much of this becomes a lot more viable. 

 
the rover said:
Older cars are simpler to work on and easier to maintain.  I can keep a 70s dodge van running and maybe even bring one back from near death but if my 2015 truck stopped running I'd be ####ed.

And they loaded up on clothes in addition to the guns and food.  
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Older cars are cheaper for the show is probably the real answer.

My pet peeve used to be how they always had an endless supply of bullets. Even when they were low back on Hershel's farm, they will somehow had endless bullets for training (Carl, Andrea, etc). Thank God they are all expert marksmen, so they don't need a lot of bullets.

Somehow Eugene knew how to make bullets, but I don't recall him ever telling Rick. Then Eugene gets snapped up by Negan for knowing how to make bullets, but he hasn't started making them yet? I guess it can't cut into his video playing time.

 
Anarchy99 said:
If we wanted to "go there," there are a lot of things that are basically too good to be true. With a limited food supply, it appears many of the characters gained weight instead of losing any. They also seem to usually appear pretty clean and well dressed . . . their clothes look to be in decent shape, they normally have decent haircuts, etc. It seems like they scavenge for guns and sometimes food, but not a lot of clothing / footwear / outerwear, etc.

Medicine and dentistry would be coming into play by now as well. The food they scavenge for would likely be stale or past the point of being edible. Even if they came across a supermarket that hadn't been touched at all, realistically, how much of food that is 2+ years old would still be safe to eat?

Although there has been some debate over the following, it's questionable if the vehicles could still run well on the gasoline that's available (could be too old and sludgy). Also they would need general maintenance and repairs, which might be in short supply. I also find it odd that the vehicles they found that work are old and not in great shape to begin with. The abandoned cars are also all old. Did anyone drive recent makes and models?

I am also curious at what point would groups decide that it is too much effort to go out and collect things, ie too far away to go out and search and come back, before they decide it's time to move to a new location. Maybe there's more available locally than anticipated (as others have said, there are probably lots of shopping areas available locally), but they usually show them going house to house, not store to store. They could probably load up on apparel at a mall, but they just haven't shown anyone do that.
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I try to chalk it up to the bolded part.  A couple seasons ago they showed Glen and Maggie I think it was, outside of a store (sporting goods store maybe?).  I think it was the episode where Merle nabbed them and took them to the governor.  If I recall they were looking for baby stuff, formula, diapers, etc.  Maybe that was our glimpse into the world of stocking up on clothes/boots/toothpaste/soap - I just assume that all that stuff happened in the past and we weren't shown it because it's boring.  

yes, I agree about the cars thing though.  Other than Glenn's joyride in the Challenger with the alarm blaring in S1, the newest vehicle we've seen was that Santa Fe they used around the prison.  I keep thinking of Will Smith in I Am Legend, he had his pick of vehicles out of a Ford dealership and he used several. Wish we'd get to see that spin of things.  They've got to be reaching the point of running out of gas completely though, none available to siphon anywhere, and it's all old and sludgy...

My biggest "reality detachment" is how in some scenes, we have zombies that are so decayed and rotten that ppl can pull their limbs off or rip them in half (windshield walker), and stomp their skulls to a pulp in one kick...even in next week's previews, it shows Carol basically holding a pole and having the zombies walk right into it with their foreheads as if their skulls are made of cupcakes.  I get that it's been a while and these things are rotting, but if their bone structure is THAT soft they wouldn't be able to walk...

 
NYRAGE said:
Older cars are cheaper for the show is probably the real answer.

My pet peeve used to be how they always had an endless supply of bullets. Even when they were low back on Hershel's farm, they will somehow had endless bullets for training (Carl, Andrea, etc). Thank God they are all expert marksmen, so they don't need a lot of bullets.

Somehow Eugene knew how to make bullets, but I don't recall him ever telling Rick. Then Eugene gets snapped up by Negan for knowing how to make bullets, but he hasn't started making them yet? I guess it can't cut into his video playing time.
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The older cars always bug me, but maybe they think they fit a zombie world better visually for the show.

The guns and ammo do not, they say there is something like 300+ million civilian guns in this country, seems like they would both be easy to find. Hell I have one uncle alone that has enough guns to stock up the garbage pail kids.

 
Major said:
I'm a fan of that Maggie as well.  She's gone downhill at a remarkable pace tho.  Rosita easily replaced Maggie for a few seasons but her recent bout with anorexia has me rethinking my charts.  
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No one has ever commented on a situation more accurately than this.

 
the rover said:
Older cars are simpler to work on and easier to maintain.  I can keep a 70s dodge van running and maybe even bring one back from near death but if my 2015 truck stopped running I'd be ####ed.

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Why do you have to keep a 2 year old car running?  Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never had a car less than 5 years old break down on me.

And even if you got a lemon, just grab another.

 
mozzy84 said:
The guns and ammo do not, they say there is something like 300+ million civilian guns in this country, seems like they would both be easy to find. Hell I have one uncle alone that has enough guns to stock up the garbage pail kids.
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I  have heard this a few times now.  I have no idea how some of you think guns and ammo would be EASY to find two years into an apocalypse like this.  Not only have people been scavenging for guns two the past 2 years, but the Saviors have also scavenged and stolen everything in the area. 

 
ghostguy123 said:
I  have heard this a few times now.  I have no idea how some of you think guns and ammo would be EASY to find two years into an apocalypse like this.  Not only have people been scavenging for guns two the past 2 years, but the Saviors have also scavenged and stolen everything in the area. 
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I think you're underestimating how many guns are in this country. People scavenge guns, said people die, more people scavage the same guns. They would be found in stockpiles of you were looking and stealing. 

 
mozzy84 said:
I think you're underestimating how many guns are in this country. People scavenge guns, said people die, more people scavage the same guns. They would be found in stockpiles of you were looking and stealing. 
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Right, that is what happened, and now the saviors have most of them.

 
Finally got around to it tonight. Yea, that's how exciting I find this season. It was a struggle to find motivation to watch. It was even harder to make it through it. Boring. Find it really hard to care about the characters anymore. And honestly, I was just waiting for Rick to screw up yet again and somehow lose it all before he got it back. Shocked that didn't happen.

 
DallasDMac said:
Finally got around to it tonight. Yea, that's how exciting I find this season. It was a struggle to find motivation to watch. It was even harder to make it through it. Boring. Find it really hard to care about the characters anymore. And honestly, I was just waiting for Rick to screw up yet again and somehow lose it all before he got it back. Shocked that didn't happen.
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When Rick fell around those walkers all I could think of was "hide under the dumpster Glen!"

 
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I just binge watched 6 seasons on netflix and caught up on-demand thru season 7 over the past week.    Needs more Negan.   This season has been blah,  not many oh #### moments.   Hope it picks up but I will watch anyways bc i'm committed here.  Its definitely lost something this season though.   I miss Abraham.   WTF with the CGI too, embarrassing.  

 
Once they introduced Negan at the end of last season and we met Lucille all that was left was to build to the inevitable war... So basically we got ourselves a "filler" season... :mellow:

 
snogger said:
Once they introduced Negan at the end of last season and we met Lucille all that was left was to build to the inevitable war... So basically we got ourselves a "filler" season... :mellow:
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Does every episode need to have something HUGE happen for you to enjoy the show?

 
ghostguy123 said:
I  have heard this a few times now.  I have no idea how some of you think guns and ammo would be EASY to find two years into an apocalypse like this.  Not only have people been scavenging for guns two the past 2 years, but the Saviors have also scavenged and stolen everything in the area. 
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They have every gun in the metro DC area?  Impossible. 

 
ghostguy123 said:
snogger said:
Once they introduced Negan at the end of last season and we met Lucille all that was left was to build to the inevitable war... So basically we got ourselves a "filler" season... :mellow:
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Does every episode need to have something HUGE happen for you to enjoy the show?
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Did I say I didn't enjoy the show :confused:  

There have been a some parts that I didn't care for and I think some episodes could have trimmed parts and combined them into one, but overall I still look forward to each week.

Just pointing out that some seasons have "Filler episodes" and this season is "dragging" compared to others as it is all about building up to the Inevitable war and so therefore could be construed as a "Filler" Season.

 
snogger said:
Did I say I didn't enjoy the show :confused:  

There have been a some parts that I didn't care for and I think some episodes could have trimmed parts and combined them into one, but overall I still look forward to each week.

Just pointing out that some seasons have "Filler episodes" and this season is "dragging" compared to others as it is all about building up to the Inevitable war and so therefore could be construed as a "Filler" Season.
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Filler episodes are how they introduce new characters to us.  They have to bring in new people if you want them to kill off existing people in those exciting and surprising episodes.  I admit that there needs to be a few more random deaths, those always would catch you off guard and just have someone dying without any buildup or momentum coming into it.

 
The Big Guy said:
snogger said:
Did I say I didn't enjoy the show :confused:  

There have been a some parts that I didn't care for and I think some episodes could have trimmed parts and combined them into one, but overall I still look forward to each week.

Just pointing out that some seasons have "Filler episodes" and this season is "dragging" compared to others as it is all about building up to the Inevitable war and so therefore could be construed as a "Filler" Season.
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Filler episodes are how they introduce new characters to us.  They have to bring in new people if you want them to kill off existing people in those exciting and surprising episodes.  I admit that there needs to be a few more random deaths, those always would catch you off guard and just have someone dying without any buildup or momentum coming into it.
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Exactly.. This season has been about introducing us to The Kingdom, The Saviors( who we barely "met" last season), The Garbage Pail Kids, Oceanside, and more of Hilltop.. Thus the feeling of it being a "Filler" Season.

There have been some enjoyable episodes which were "Re-watchable" but most were "one and done" for me this year. :shrug:

 
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