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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Hawkeye21 said:
The episode was a good improvement but like someone else said, the bar was not set high.  I enjoyed the episode overall but I really hated some parts.  There were multiple times where I said out loud, "Oh come on!"  This Rick and Negan crap is so old now.  Their fight seems are incredibly lame.

I liked the addition of the people with the key to the future and Jadis with Negan made me intrigued.  I actually look forward to the next episode.
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That book woman & her redneck clowns are annoying. Please kill them off.

 
Yeah it's just so lame how every conflict on this show happens because a character makes a totally indefensible decision.

Rick Grimes, a career law enforcement officer who presumably has extensive training in close range firearms tactics, proceeds to waste his entire clip firing into the bottom of a flipped car. Then he wastes his 2nd clip firing wildly at an injured target 15 feet away.

This requires him to run into a scary building, miss 6 close range pistol shots and then have a hand to hand fight with a flaming baseball bat while warding off zombies

So incredibly stupid

 
TLEF316 said:
Yeah it's just so lame how every conflict on this show happens because a character makes a totally indefensible decision.

Rick Grimes, a career law enforcement officer who presumably has extensive training in close range firearms tactics, proceeds to waste his entire clip firing into the bottom of a flipped car. Then he wastes his 2nd clip firing wildly at an injured target 15 feet away.

This requires him to run into a scary building, miss 6 close range pistol shots and then have a hand to hand fight with a flaming baseball bat while warding off zombies

So incredibly stupid
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Laughable. Just like when Negan and his lieutenants were standing out front and could have all been wiped out in seconds.

The best part about the 2nd clip was how Rick paused and then shot when Negan was basically in the door. If he doesn’t shoot at the undercarriage Negan is still out and he could have riddled him with bullets. Wasted two clips and 6 shots without actually having a good shot when 1 second of patience would have worked. 

How about give Negan a gun and have a shoot out. Then you understand the running out of ammo.

 
Magic_Man said:
That book woman & her redneck clowns are annoying. Please kill them off.
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Could they have gotten two worse actors? Not sure if they were guys or girls or what they said or if they were kids they pulled off the streets or the directors kids. All I am sure about is that those two out garbaged the GPKs. 

 
Hawkeye21 said:
Was not a fan of the characters but liked the idea of where it could lead the show.
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Governor reboot, Governor 2.0?

  While the idea that Georgie is probably Pamela Milton from the comics who leads a more advanced population of 50,000 survivors is intriguing, I find it hard to believe they're ready to spend that kind of dough if they can't even afford a car crash scene.  I mean igg and ook and their sunglasses aren't exactly portraying the brutes of the New World Order army very well.  [\spoiler]
 
stbugs said:
Could they have gotten two worse actors? Not sure if they were guys or girls or what they said or if they were kids they pulled off the streets or the directors kids. All I am sure about is that those two out garbaged the GPKs. 
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those outfits they stuck them in with the shades....come on

 
mozzy84 said:
I honestly thought I just missed that part cuz I was playing on my phone again while watching this hahaha.   I was like wth I missed him flip the car, oh well whatever.
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After I read that "21 reasons" article, I was about to type this exact same sentence. 

 
TLEF316 said:
Rick Grimes, a career law enforcement officer who presumably has extensive training in close range firearms tactics, proceeds to waste his entire clip firing into the bottom of a flipped car. Then he wastes his 2nd clip firing wildly at an injured target 15 feet away.
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yes, this actually made me angry. it's like they are intentionally being stupid now, like an inside joke.

this episode was marginally better than the last, if only because I liked how Simon implied to Dwight "hey, let's just move on..." when his version of moving on is wiping them all out. I through that was actually kinda clever.

 
What was Georgie trading for?  Records?  There is a used record shop downtown in Alexandria. And if she is who we assume from the comics there must be hundreds between there and where she is from.   I wouldn't expect that they would be in high demand. 

And what was she trading?  Knowledge?  How to build a society, engineering and such. Yeah I suppose Maggie's library card is expired because there are a lot of libraries including some pretty famous ones around the DC area. 

 
Still watching...

Mostly so I can come in here and read the comments. You guys are :moneybag:

The show's been relegated to being on in the background whilst I do whatever else so the detailed analysis I can count on from this thread is gold. I did watch the Rick/Negan lovefest only because every time they get together you know there is an exceptional amount of 'suspend disbelief' needed.

Igg and Ook made me spit water...excellent

 
TLEF316 said:
Yeah it's just so lame how every conflict on this show happens because a character makes a totally indefensible decision.

Rick Grimes, a career law enforcement officer who presumably has extensive training in close range firearms tactics, proceeds to waste his entire clip firing into the bottom of a flipped car. Then he wastes his 2nd clip firing wildly at an injured target 15 feet away.

This requires him to run into a scary building, miss 6 close range pistol shots and then have a hand to hand fight with a flaming baseball bat while warding off zombies

So incredibly stupid
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exactly-   his training would have him quartering negan until he could get a clean shot from distance    

 
tommyboy said:
exactly-   his training would have him quartering negan until he could get a clean shot from distance    
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Bingo.  I get that there's emotion involved based on everything that has happened but we're talking about things that a 13 year old that plays Call Of Duty would know to do.

Instead, he's mindlessly spraying his AK like a 5'3 child soldier hopped up on drugs.

 
While it is probably meaningless on the bigger scale, it is interesting to note that one characters death marked both the comics and the TV down turn in popularity.

The Walking Dead comics peak in sales for issue 100, where Glenn was killed.  The sales have dropped steadily since.

The Walking Dead tv peaked* with Season 7, episode 1, where Glenn was killed.  The number of viewers have been on a steady and fairly drastic decline since.  The last 3 episodes number of viewers have dropped to levels not seen since since season 2.

Ironically, Kirkman admitted he made a mistake in killing Glenn in the comics and yet went on to possibly repeat the mistake in the TV series.

*second highest actually but really really close in numbers with season 5 opener.

 
If someone had told me 2 years ago that Simon would be the only character left I care about, I would never have believed it.  I know people had a lot of problems with the series from the jump but I still enjoyed the ride, even acknowledging they butchered the rendering of beloved comic characters like Lori, Dale and Andrea.

The last couple of years have been brutal to watch.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
While it is probably meaningless on the bigger scale, it is interesting to note that one characters death marked both the comics and the TV down turn in popularity.

The Walking Dead comics peak in sales for issue 100, where Glenn was killed.  The sales have dropped steadily since.

The Walking Dead tv peaked* with Season 7, episode 1, where Glenn was killed.  The number of viewers have been on a steady and fairly drastic decline since.  The last 3 episodes number of viewers have dropped to levels not seen since since season 2.

Ironically, Kirkman admitted he made a mistake in killing Glenn in the comics and yet went on to possibly repeat the mistake in the TV series.

*second highest actually but really really close in numbers with season 5 opener.
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Does the show miss Glenn? I guess.

But they really lost me when they fake-killed Glenn. It was so incredibly lame. But then after that giant, laughable misstep, they kill him for real less than a year later? 

The whole thing just seems like a giant troll job at this point.

 
Last week I finally got around to watching episode one from this season.  I started dicking around on my phone after a few minutes and didn't realize until the end of the show that i hadn't actually watched more than 5 minutes of it.

TWD seems to have run its course at this point.

 
Still have last two episodes sitting on my DVR and reading through this thread. Gonna talk to the wife if she wants to keep watching it. Might have to do it without me.

 
Need to resolve the Negan - Rick feud and move on to a new story line. Also reduce the number of characters and get them back on the road.

 
NewlyRetired said:
While it is probably meaningless on the bigger scale, it is interesting to note that one characters death marked both the comics and the TV down turn in popularity.

The Walking Dead comics peak in sales for issue 100, where Glenn was killed.  The sales have dropped steadily since.

The Walking Dead tv peaked* with Season 7, episode 1, where Glenn was killed.  The number of viewers have been on a steady and fairly drastic decline since.  The last 3 episodes number of viewers have dropped to levels not seen since since season 2.

Ironically, Kirkman admitted he made a mistake in killing Glenn in the comics and yet went on to possibly repeat the mistake in the TV series.

*second highest actually but really really close in numbers with season 5 opener.
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I had no problem with the killing of Glenn because I was sick to death of the Glenn-Maggie love story.

I think the biggest problem with the show is they think we care that much about the characters anymore.   There are way too many of them and quite frankly none of them are getting enough screen time to establish much of a bond.   Does anyone really give a crap about Tara, Enid, Aaron, Gabriel, etc.  To be honest my favorite characters on the show are the bad guys and I couldn't care less if they all get blown away.

The best thing would be for total bloodshed where only 7 or 8 characters remain.

 
Moonlight said:
Need to resolve the Negan - Rick feud and move on to a new story line. Also reduce the number of characters and get them back on the road.
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The resolution of the Negan/Rick feud will likely be the conclusion of the series.

 
Godsbrother said:
I had no problem with the killing of Glenn because I was sick to death of the Glenn-Maggie love story.

I think the biggest problem with the show is they think we care that much about the characters anymore.   There are way too many of them and quite frankly none of them are getting enough screen time to establish much of a bond.   Does anyone really give a crap about Tara, Enid, Aaron, Gabriel, etc.  To be honest my favorite characters on the show are the bad guys and I couldn't care less if they all get blown away.

The best thing would be for total bloodshed where only 7 or 8 characters remain.
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:goodposting:

 
bryhamm said:
The resolution of the Negan/Rick feud will likely be the conclusion of the series.
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Depends on your definition of "resolution" is.. The "War" will end this season...

Who lives and who dies, as well as if there is a Time Jump next season, is still to be determined. :popcorn:

 
this show would seem to be a great study in film classes for how to ruin a show, or a "what not to do"

ETA:  week 1: how to not develop characters, and kill people on off your show and create zero emotional care when they die. 

Carol's boyfriend has been on for 3-4 seasons, and i am sure no one even knows his name

 
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For some reason ,I watched this week.  keystone cops level of bad. Ninja zombies, hilltop people missing bunched under-lights saviors in a volley of  automatic  gunfire (probably still wanting to shoot out windows instead of people), the kid needing to open the gate to the prisoners pen to talk to them (because it's too hard to hear through that chicken wire) and Morgan's hallucination couldn't be any more annoying. Not the week to come back to this.

 
El Floppo said:
For some reason ,I watched this week.  keystone cops level of bad. Ninja zombies, hilltop people missing bunched under-lights saviors in a volley of  automatic  gunfire (probably still wanting to shoot out windows instead of people), the kid needing to open the gate to the prisoners pen to talk to them (because it's too hard to hear through that chicken wire) and Morgan's hallucination couldn't be any more annoying. Not the week to come back to this.
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A couple of seasons ago I said the writing was horrific. It's gotten worse and you can tell how bad it's been when no one comments along with the show anymore, not to mention the ratings are dropping like crazy.

They make these characters do the dumbest things. Rick loves to throw away his assault rifle. You would think he would learn to carry more than one magazine.

I'm not sure what Simon's strategy was once inside,especially whistling to let them know they were coming. Why didn't Dwight just kill them when they were alone?  How did everyone miss the Saviors in the open field and no immediate cover?

That kid got the key to the gate and decides to walk inside? He could have shot from outside. Where were the guards outside the pen? Where were any guards? Shoudn't they post someone inside the house to be ready for intrusions or even sick people dying?

If they are already all infected per the CDC guy, how is the zombie blood getting them sick?

I don't know if I've seen one good fight during this whole war.

No one of significance dies unless you count Tobin. Kind of like the red shirts on Star Trek. All hell, enough complaining from me.

 
Everyone is infected and turns when they die. Being bit or having zombie blood introduced into your system causes fever and a pretty quick death, which then of course initiates the turn. My DVR didn't pick it up this week for some reason. Caught a later showing. Agree with alot of the complaints. I'm still trying to just enjoy the show though.

 
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NYRAGE said:
A couple of seasons ago I said the writing was horrific. It's gotten worse and you can tell how bad it's been when no one comments along with the show anymore, not to mention the ratings are dropping like crazy.

They make these characters do the dumbest things. Rick loves to throw away his assault rifle. You would think he would learn to carry more than one magazine.

I'm not sure what Simon's strategy was once inside,especially whistling to let them know they were coming. Why didn't Dwight just kill them when they were alone?  How did everyone miss the Saviors in the open field and no immediate cover?

That kid got the key to the gate and decides to walk inside? He could have shot from outside. Where were the guards outside the pen? Where were any guards? Shoudn't they post someone inside the house to be ready for intrusions or even sick people dying?

If they are already all infected per the CDC guy, how is the zombie blood getting them sick?

I don't know if I've seen one good fight during this whole war.

No one of significance dies unless you count Tobin. Kind of like the red shirts on Star Trek. All hell, enough complaining from me.
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No one of significance dies? Really?

 
The writers insist on making 99% of the kids on this show the dumbest kids that ever walked on the face of the earth... I'll just open this gate and surround myself with 38 enemies, what could possibly go wrong??

Simon.... "Hilltop people have ran before, so there is no way they are hiding in this tall building.. Let's all bunch up and walk right towards the windows!" ..
This from the same guy who last week said "they never scare"

Daryl a couple weeks ago.. "Dwight has changed Tara, we need him"....  the last two weeks.. "He needs to DIE!!!"

So much potential for this last episode to be epic but the writers went and "bleeped" on themselves :wall:

 
El Floppo said:
For some reason ,I watched this week.  keystone cops level of bad. Ninja zombies, hilltop people missing bunched under-lights saviors in a volley of  automatic  gunfire (probably still wanting to shoot out windows instead of people), the kid needing to open the gate to the prisoners pen to talk to them (because it's too hard to hear through that chicken wire) and Morgan's hallucination couldn't be any more annoying. Not the week to come back to this.
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Agreed, but it is the story behind the plan of the writers to make him jump from TWD to FTWD..
Have to make him "Lose his mind" AGAIN, so he can wander the earth for a few months alone to once AGAIN find himself. :mellow:

 
The saviors plan was to attack with bows and arrows?

Rick just throws down his automatic weapon during an assault 

so much screen time kissing Maggie's ### for some reason

hilltop didn't wipe out the saviors even though they were surrounded and had guns

again with Morgan going crazy

how does Dwight just shoot Tara with an arrow and it's only a scratch?

dont get me started about the kid   Such a weak plot point

i am trying to stay on board here but it's pretty much impossible at this point 

 
:doh:   I've been one to try and defend the show for the most part.  Gets harder every week.  Rick Grimes is good at tossing aside assault rifles.  And notorious for not having any ammo beyond capacity for his 6 shooter.  My level of dislike for him increased a notch when they showed him putting bullets in his p-shooter on the steps.  How hard would it have been to put a few bullets in his shirt pocket so he could have had a reload moment while Negan was at the top of the stairs in the basement last week?  Even Barney Fife has one bullet in his shirt pocket.  

Perhaps the dumbest scene of an otherwise... well, dumb.. season, is when Simon and the other chipmunks decide to just meander out in the open as a group (like the Peanuts gang moving the Christmas ornaments from the dog house to the crappy little tree) because everything got quiet.  And when the shooting starts from the house they all just look at each other and say "HEY... THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US!... LET'S GET OUTTA HERE!"  Automatic weapons fired from elevated positions and no one seemed to be hit.  Villains on the A-Team TV series even thought 'damn, those people can't shoot for ####.'

The kid in the pen.  Just.. whatever.  

The whole Morgan thing...  "You know what it is.. you know what it is!"  Yeah, Morgan, you know what it is... it is terrible writing so it's time to time warp out of this show and try your luck with the other show.  It's just a jump to the left...

 
pantherclub said:
The saviors plan was to attack with bows and arrows?

so much screen time kissing Maggie's ### for some reason

how does Dwight just shoot Tara with an arrow and it's only a scratch?
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I'll try to take a shot at these 3. 

1.  The plan wasn't to kill them originally.  Negan wanted them to be cut with knives, shot with arrows dipped in walker blood/guts... to make them sick and turn.  That plan ended up working pretty well. Simon wanted them to kill everybody, but many of the saviours didn't bring guns.. just knives and arrows.

2.  I didn't like the sappy dialog with Maggie either.  The guy on the stairs, who no one's ever seen before last night, telling her thanks and how great a leader she is was a sure fire lead-in that he was going to turn and kill someone in the house.  They wanted to tell us that Maggie was such a great leader and her method of doing things was far superior to Gregory's.  However, turns out that Gregory's method never got anyone killed.  Maggie's way of doing things is still leading to danger for her people.  She kept talking about "cost", and this is the cost of doing things her way.  So she is a good leader but it comes at a cost.  

3.  My speculation is that Dwight didn't want to kill Tara, but just wing her because Simon was walking towards her and was going to kill her.  Dwight's arrow apparently wasn't dipped in walker juice.  So even though Daryl saw Dwight shoot at Tara, my guess is he just nicked her on purpose so that Simon didn't shoot and kill her.  

 
They are better at the difficult shots.  Placing people in a group throws off the shooter into thinking something is afoot so it adversely affects the, uh, aim.  

 
Jayrok said:
I'll try to take a shot at these 3. 

1.  The plan wasn't to kill them originally.  Negan wanted them to be cut with knives, shot with arrows dipped in walker blood/guts... to make them sick and turn.  That plan ended up working pretty well. Simon wanted them to kill everybody, but many of the saviours didn't bring guns.. just knives and arrows.

2.  I didn't like the sappy dialog with Maggie either.  The guy on the stairs, who no one's ever seen before last night, telling her thanks and how great a leader she is was a sure fire lead-in that he was going to turn and kill someone in the house.  They wanted to tell us that Maggie was such a great leader and her method of doing things was far superior to Gregory's.  However, turns out that Gregory's method never got anyone killed.  Maggie's way of doing things is still leading to danger for her people.  She kept talking about "cost", and this is the cost of doing things her way.  So she is a good leader but it comes at a cost.  

3.  My speculation is that Dwight didn't want to kill Tara, but just wing her because Simon was walking towards her and was going to kill her.  Dwight's arrow apparently wasn't dipped in walker juice.  So even though Daryl saw Dwight shoot at Tara, my guess is he just nicked her on purpose so that Simon didn't shoot and kill her.  
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:goodposting:   I expect her not getting infected from Dwight's Arrow will hopefully, FINALLY, put to end the "Kill him.. no Don't kill, no kill him!" Round about.

 
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snogger said:
:goodposting:   I expect her not getting infected from Dwight's Arrow will hopefully, FINALLY, put to end the "Kill him.. no Don't kill, no kill him!" Round about.
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I cannot wait for his defense of "I only nicked her to save her from getting chopped by a hatchet" which will inevitably be lollerific.  Why in the hell hasnt dwight simply killed simon yet?  The entire thing is just like if the Onion wrote a tv show

 
snogger said:
The writers insist on making 99% of the kids on this show the dumbest kids that ever walked on the face of the earth... I'll just open this gate and surround myself with 38 enemies, what could possibly go wrong??

Simon.... "Hilltop people have ran before, so there is no way they are hiding in this tall building.. Let's all bunch up and walk right towards the windows!" ..
This from the same guy who last week said "they never scare"

Daryl a couple weeks ago.. "Dwight has changed Tara, we need him"....  the last two weeks.. "He needs to DIE!!!"

So much potential for this last episode to be epic but the writers went and "bleeped" on themselves :wall:
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yeah, these 2 were simply infuriating

 
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