Good interview with Carla about the show here. Its a shame the wheels came of the wagon at the end , I really grew to like her.
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Top Chef Exit Interview: Carla Is Cut, Takes Full Responsibility, Doesn’t Want People To Blame Casey
After getting off to a slow start - which she attributes to not being completely comfortable in her own skin (see below) - Carla Hall started to pick up major momentum this season on Top Chef. Once the group of 17 started boiling down to fewer and fewer cheftestants, the Carla express train seemed bound for “Hootie Hoo-ville” (no, that’s not an actual place) station.
Sadly, the Carla train stopped short last night when she failed to trust her gut on two major dishes, winding up with a sunken soufflé and a blown sous vide steak. In an interview this morning, the DC-local discussed her progression over the season, why she’s cool with Hosea’s win, and how she’s actually “much weirder” in real life than what we saw on TV.
So what happened with Casey last night?
When I was there, and afterwards, I really enjoyed working with Casey. I actually really wanted Casey. I thought that we would connect, personality-wise, which is really important. Richard Blais is really nice too. I did not consider that it was Casey’s fault. The way I guess I have to explain it is that doing the competition you give so much that it’s just emotionally exhausting trying to think of things.
Going into the finale you’re exhausted, and then all of the sudden you have help. You have help from people who have already been through it. So I think I just wanted to exhale and say thank God I don’t have to bear it all on my own. I don’t have to do it all. But I probably gave too much power away. She didn’t take it, I gave it. I am prepared to take full responsibility for that.
In hindsight yes I would have done something differently. When you’re exhausted and tired you make totally different decisions. She was standing by me. I think I hadn’t sold myself on the soufflé dish, and I hadn’t completely changed my idea of the tart. I never really did a proper soufflé and then I didn’t turn the oven down. It wouldn’t have worked anyway, because I was still in my head creating it, while I was trying to get my dishes out.
I wasn’t even present doing my meat dish. If we had done something else, had a better cut of meat, and seared it, using the sauce that I’d prepared - which was really delicious - I think I would have been in the game. Not presenting something on the last plate definitely tripped me up.
I would not blame Casey at all. I hope people understand that and they don’t give her a hard time. I know the blogs are blowing up saying she did me in. No she did not.
Have you had a conversation with her since the finale?
I haven’t spoken to her. I would love to give her a call. I don’t have her number. I want to see how she’s taking all of this because I would really hate for her to get the brunt of it. If I could get on the loud speaker and say to whoever watches the show: please do not blame Casey. I take full responsibility for it. I just hope she’s not getting beat up by it.
Everyone knows you’d been building up momentum all season, you even said so yourself last night. What was that progression like for you, starting off less strong and then building each week?
The progression wasn’t necessarily in my technique. Whatever technique I had going in, that’s what I had. I think the progression was to become comfortable in my own skin, and comfortable with myself in that environment. You saw that sort of fall apart in the finale last night.
Every day when I got centered, my whole thing was to just step in and not be so tense and afraid of messing up that I couldn’t do what I knew I was able to do. The turning point for me was Restaurant Wars, where you think you’re going to go home, and that’s your biggest fear. So then I thought OK that’s out of the way, so now I can cook. Then when I was in the moment things worked out. I was exactly where I needed to be. I needed to not be afraid of not doing a good job, which stifled any disappointment. So I continued.
The disservice that I allowed for the finale was to not be in that flow, and I used Casey as a crutch. So that’s what happened.
Can you talk about cooking with love?
I am sure that everybody on that show who loves what they do - they may not describe it the way I describe it - cooks with love. It’s just the way I am. I think in any discipline, if you love what you do, you do it with love, because you care about it. When you care about something it comes through, and the people who you are delivering it to know it, and they respond to it. They may not know what the thing is, but what we’re responding to is the fact that you care about it.
There was one episode where Tom seemed to not understand that concept. Did he eventually get it? Did the other judges get it?
I think they did. If they didn’t get it, they respected that it was my perspective. I know that Gail definitely got it, and you know Toby mentioned it. Honestly that was a piece of winning for me, too. Just to show people we’re not here just to pull out a dish that’s technically sound and it tastes good; there’s a little piece of us going into every dish that we make. That truly is reality when you go to a restaurant; there are people busting their butt’s trying to get a good meal to you.
Sometimes when you’re doing the challenges and don’t have a lot of time, what ever we put out, whether it succeeds greatly or fails like I did last night, there is a piece of me in that dish. I just hope that comes across to the judges. It doesn’t mean that I’m a failure as a person. I mean, shoot, we all have a bad day. Sometimes are bad days are small and no one sees them, and sometimes are bad days are in front of millions of people. But that’s life.
What did you think of the way you were portrayed on the show?
I think I’m weirder than they made me seem, so they did a great job! My friends went oh my God, you’re just like that! Are you sure you want to show people that side of yourself? So I’m going to be me. Sometimes I’m really quirky, sometimes I’m introspective, sometimes I’m probably on a soap box somewhere. I think they pretty much captured it all.
Last night the moment when Stefan comforted you at judges table was really touching, can you talk about what was going on there?
I think it was really sweet. We’d been standing in front of those judges for hours! Obviously you don’t see that. It wasn’t until the end, after three hours or so of being badgered like what the Hell, Carla? that I was trying to hold it in, but then my voice started to quiver. Then Stefan walked over and I was really touched. I think both of them were just feeling it.
Because you’re so into what you’re doing…they didn’t realize that I was falling apart when I was putting out my dishes; they were so focused on their own. So they too, were learning about this as we were standing in front of the judges.
I really like Stefan. I know he’s been portrayed as the villain, but he is playing the game. He is sussing out his competition and playing the game. He’s not a bad person. He doesn’t want to win by choking someone up. He wants to win by doing a good job and being a good competitor. I applaud his technique and his abilities as a chef. I think he was awesome with the alligator. Granted, I snickered when Hosea gave him that alligator, but he pulled it out. He was like look you cannot trip me up!
Where did you watch the finale?
I went out with 90 other people: family, friends, students from my cooking class. I am teaching a class at Culinary, which is a recreational cooking school in downtown DC. So, the students that are in my class watched, I had clients there, and lots of family and friends. We all were there together and they were all rooting me on. So then I was like I hope none of you all are crying out there, alright? People get so choked up!
People always seem to stray away from doing dessert, which was your strong suit this. What did you think about Hosea’s decision not to do one last night?
I think that a chef’s decision has to be based on their strengths. We’re there to show our strengths. Interestingly enough, I like doing desserts, and I did desserts in the beginning, but I kind of got pigeon holed because I wasn’t afraid to do them. Doing desserts in my regular day-to-day is something that’s a treat for me, so I can relax. So I started doing them just to relax. Then it took on a whole different meaning when I found myself doing them until Restaurant Wars, and you know how that ended. But I think that I didn’t want to do a dessert because I was kind of gun shy after restaurant wars, and I didn’t want to be pegged as a dessert chef, which I’m not. So I did a spin on a cheese course with a really good crust.
As for Hosea, I think he made a good decision. If he doesn’t do desserts well, then why set himself up like I did? I don’t do sous vide and then I did sous vide, and that wasn’t a very good decision. He was smart. Me, not so much, right?
Do you think Hosea deserved it?
I think he made the best meal. I’m so happy for him and think he deserved it. He’s a package. I wasn’t reading the blogs about Hosea, well, my husband would read them to me, but he’s a really good guy and he’s gotten kind of a bum rep.
Anyone who would have gotten it deserved it. We worked really hard. I think sometimes people don’t think about how hard it is. Stefan has done a beautiful job throughout the competition, and people have asked me whether it should have been cumulative. I’m going to say no to that. If it was cumulative, then Hosea wouldn’t have been there; he wouldn’t have gotten that shot. He ended up winning by cooking the best meal that night.
So everybody gets another chance. You can mess up, and if you’re still there, the next day you get up and do it all over again and win, and have a fresh start, which is great. I think that’s a really good message in life. You messed up today? Don’t worry about it. Brush yourself off and get up and do it over again tomorrow.
Did your husband and stepson enjoy the Super Bowl?
They were so excited! They didn’t find out until we watched the show. My husband couldn’t understand that I was sitting there with these two fabricated tickets, saying ‘you’re going to the Super Bowl!’ He was looking at me like what? They had a wonderful time. Hearing the story about it made me really excited. My treat was that then I didn’t have to actually watch the Super Bowl!
Did you also have to keep the car a secret from everyone?
Yeah, no one knew about that either. My sweet, sweet husband, true to form, cried when I won. He was so happy because I actually won, and then the fact that I won the car, he was over the moon. So he was a little teary!
You mentioned on the show that you used to be a model. How long were you doing that for, and at what point did you decide to consider the idea of cooking professionally?
I modeled only for three years. I mostly did runway modeling. At 30 I went to culinary school after falling into a lunch delivery service. So I was doing that for five years. I really cut my teeth, so to speak, doing that, the day-to-day grind. After that I still wanted to do it, so I said OK I’m ready to invest in myself. I’d had the experience, so I went to culinary school to get the theory. After putting the theory and the experience together, I loved it. I found a passion about it that was exciting to me. My biggest thing was being 40 and hating my job, so I was willing to do anything to figure it out. I think a lot of what you all saw was my passion about stuff. I hope everyone gets to experience that; if you have a passion for taking out the trash, then you do a really good job.
Are you still in touch with everyone from the show?
I talk to Ariane a lot. She came down here to DC to help me with an inaugural event, and I went up to her restaurant, which is really good. So I talk to her a lot. I talk to Jamie, and I talk to Stefan quite a bit.
Interestingly enough, it’s so funny, when we were going through the competition he’s like I’m not here to be friends, I’m not going to talk to these people! Then he calls all of us. He is like the paternal grandfather keeping all of us together and calling. It’s great.
What’s next for you?
I will continue to cater. I don’t know what’s coming down the pike. I really want to start a sweet and savory boutique. I’m opening up a place hopefully in downtown DC where I can do catering, and also have a chefs table where people like yourself can actually taste my food without having to cater. But it will be pretty small so I’ll probably wind up pissing more people off than making them happy. Maybe a couple of classes in that space.