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***Official*** Washington Redskins 2015 Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)
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There was talk last year that Orakpo would get around $55 M for 5 years if he was not franchised. It does sound like his poor season/injury cost him a lot.
Does this line us up for a compensation pick or does signing 3 other free agents negate that? I do know Jean Francois does not factor into the calculations since he was cut.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Every one of these DL are an improvement over what we were trotting out last year.
Some may consider it trite, but, along with differential speed, line play is elemental to winning football at all levels.
The more improvement on the DL, the more the secondary improves, by default - applying pressure to the QB exponentially improves the likelihood that an incompletion or turnover will be the result of any given pass play vs a completion.
Culliver is a starter-caliber CB, probably somewhere in the 48 range (out of 64 starters in the NFL)...quality line play puts him much closer to 32, the lower end #1 CB's, IMO.
Thrilled we are not making headlines, just keeping head down and getting solid blue-collar work done.
Color me cautiously optimistic.
I have long believed that the OL and DL are the core of the football team, so that should be the focus in building a team. And over the past 15 years of so, the OL and DL have been badly neglected in the Redskins' drafts.
So I like the emphasis on the DL. I posted earlier that last years DL was getting old. And they weren't particularly good. That is not a good combination.
So I like the emphasis on the DL. I posted earlier that last years DL was getting old. And they weren't particularly good. That is not a good combination.
On hogshaven.com, found this tweet:
Aaron Wilson ✔ @RavensInsider Follow
Chris Culliver Redskins deal: four years, $32 million, $5M bonus, $16M gtd, salaries $3M, $8M, $8M, $8M, 2015-15 salaries full gtd
10:14 AM - 13 Mar 2015
That is definitely starter money.
Also note: the guarantees are significant (50% of deal), but the signing bonus is modest and salaries are not escalating. The contract is not back-loaded at all.
That makes a lot of sense since the Redskins are essentially rebuilding, even if no one says it out loud. I thought it was ridiculous in years past when the Redskins would be bad and they would backload contracts so they could signed the maximum number of free agents.
Aaron Wilson ✔ @RavensInsider Follow
Chris Culliver Redskins deal: four years, $32 million, $5M bonus, $16M gtd, salaries $3M, $8M, $8M, $8M, 2015-15 salaries full gtd
10:14 AM - 13 Mar 2015
That is definitely starter money.
Also note: the guarantees are significant (50% of deal), but the signing bonus is modest and salaries are not escalating. The contract is not back-loaded at all.
That makes a lot of sense since the Redskins are essentially rebuilding, even if no one says it out loud. I thought it was ridiculous in years past when the Redskins would be bad and they would backload contracts so they could signed the maximum number of free agents.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
It was a joke.dehaven123 said:
Either you wrote "X" as in *bzzzzz* "WRONG!"
Or you wrote "X" as in your signature, which in the old days would be "X" for someone who couldn't write.
I wasn't being serious.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Would love to still sign Cox to play the slot (I believe he's good there, right?)
Sounds like he'd love to follow Culliver here, and it would mean we aren't reliant on Hall coming back from a double-Achilles tear or Amerson developing. Culliver and Breeland on the outside, Cox in the slot. Puts less pressure on our terrible safety situation and allows us to take advantage of the beast DL/front-7 we're putting together and will probably add to at #5 if we don't trade back.
Sounds like he'd love to follow Culliver here, and it would mean we aren't reliant on Hall coming back from a double-Achilles tear or Amerson developing. Culliver and Breeland on the outside, Cox in the slot. Puts less pressure on our terrible safety situation and allows us to take advantage of the beast DL/front-7 we're putting together and will probably add to at #5 if we don't trade back.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
No, there's really not. If there was, he would still probably not be the BPA which is Scot's mantra.
If we manage to pull off a trade down OL will definitely be in our sights though.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I have a sneaky suspicion you guys are going to get Bradford for the 5 spot.
Archer
Footballguy
Whatever you are smoking should be flushed down the toilet. Unless you mean Bradford along with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
lol. No. As part of a big trade down, there's might be like a 1% chance it happens. But straight up? No.
We have a very good LT and a very good C. Really wouldn't want to take a RT or G in this draft that high. Shame Safety isn't better in this draft.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Still really enjoying this FA so far. We are flying under the radar and building a solid defense (granted, we had/have a long way to go). Really nice to watch.
dehaven123
Footballguy
Seems like a pretty good bet that if they stay put it'll be a pass rusher in the 1stthayman said:
nittanylion
Footballguy
...and Strong Safety gets an upgrade!
Hang 10
Footballguy
Anyone know anything about Jeron Johnson? I assume he wasn't able to crack the starting rotation in Seattle because he plays behind a couple of studs.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
dehaven123
Footballguy
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jeron-johnson?id=2495297
here is an old draft profile
he's 26, 5-10/220.
Hang 10
Footballguy
You do realize Vinnie Cerrato is not managing Redskins personnel anymore, right?
dgreen
Footballguy
From my brief "research" of seeing some tweets...
He's not considered some super talented guy who was being blocked by guys slightly better than him. But, yeah, he was stuck behind two studs so very little playing time. He'll likely be competing for a starting safety position. I don't think the idea is that he's guaranteed a spot. His contract is only 2/$4M.
ETA: And supposedly a really good special teams player.
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Per Rich Tandler, the Redskins have $11.7M in cap space left. There is no way they are taking on Sam Bradford's salary for even one year.
http://realredskins.com/2015/03/16/redskins-cap-space-is-dwindling-but-they-can-create-more/
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Brunell4MVP
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unless griffin is part of the package. That frees up the space. Griffin and the 5th for Bradford, the 20th and maybe a 3rd rounder. Not saying it's going to happen. But there are ways it can. And I would much prefer Bradford as our qb. As I expect would our WRs.
More likely we trade with CLE for their 12th and 40th picks. Then we can get Collins at S and have 2 2nd round picks.
dgreen
Footballguy
Griffin will make $3.2M this year. Bradford $13M.
There is no way the Redskins will take on Bradford's salary. Unless they really think he is the QB of the future. The would need to sign him to long term deal with lots of guaranteed money. Does that sound like the way McCloughan wants to build the team?
McCloughan will want draft picks to move down.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
DeAngelo Hall celebrates recovery with a backflip.
It's fantastic to see him back physically. Although, the "old man" in me questions the judgement used in performing a backflip on a new achilles tendon that was previously torn in a midnight snack kitchen accident. A re-tear in that situation would have to rank right along with this.
It's fantastic to see him back physically. Although, the "old man" in me questions the judgement used in performing a backflip on a new achilles tendon that was previously torn in a midnight snack kitchen accident. A re-tear in that situation would have to rank right along with this.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
The draft profile that dehaven linked above had me thinking that his weaknesses were coachable. Looks like he may have learned a thing or two in Seattle. And as you pointed out, he wasn't given starter money. He'll compete for the SS position, and may have been paid for his ability to contribute to ST.dgreen said:
nittanylion
Footballguy
...and the Colt is back in the holster...
Swing 51
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
One of the areas where I was least impressed by Gruden was how he handled the QBs and their lack of development.
A rookie HQ, rookie OC, and no QB coach did not work out well. This aspect of the coaching really look a little like the Zorn era. Hopefully hiring Matt Cavanaugh will help.
If we have another QB merri-go-round, I think Gruden will not be around that long.
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
He totally blew it and if he does it again he will be gone, as he should be. Gruden treated the QB position like a clown car and it was embarrassing.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I doubt there is a line for McCoy's services.
McCoy : Gruden :: Grossman : Shanahan
McCoy : Gruden :: Grossman : Shanahan
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I was actually thinking the same thing. Jay Gruden has found his Rex Grossman. They can keep signing him to one year deals until Gruden leaves.
nittanylion
Footballguy
I found our thread on page...
...4!!! Mr. McCloughan, I like the cut of your jib, sir!
...4!!! Mr. McCloughan, I like the cut of your jib, sir!
dehaven123
Footballguy
some decent quotes on redskinsinsider from an interview w/ McCloughan on the players added so far on defense.I found our thread on page...
...4!!! Mr. McCloughan, I like the cut of your jib, sir!
dhockster
Footballguy
McCloughan may be a step in the right direction for the Redskins; Unfortunately, you still have Gruden, who doesn't seem to have learned anything from last year:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/26/jay-gruden-rg3-has-the-starting-job-right-now/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/26/jay-gruden-rg3-has-the-starting-job-right-now/
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
What exactly is the issue with Gruden's statement? I read it as Gruden saying it's Griffin's job to lose. If that's problematic, then I think what McCloughan said the other day is far worse.dhockster said:
dhockster
Footballguy
It just sounds like more of the same from last year. "you're the starter right now" sounds a whole lot like "you're the starter until you mess up". If it is truly an open competition, then say you don't have a starting QB yet, that will have to be earned in camp.
My impression is that RG3 is not Gruden's kind of QB and that Gruden will do whatever he can to play someone else. If my impression is right, that is not a good way for a team to enter the season. Just my two cents.
MattFancy
Footballguy
Does anyone not remember after the SF when Gruden said Griffin was the QB for right now? Then a day or 2 later, he benched him. I'm sure if Griffin struggles in TC and preseason, that Gruden will have no problem pulling him.
dehaven123
Footballguy
When i saw the clip, I took it as gruden saying the same as Scott Mcloughan, trying to sound sincere about the possibility of the skins taking a qb in the first rd, helping grease the skids for possibly trading back. my thought was, GM and HC on the same page here. I even considered Scott had told gruden to speak that way purposely. maybe I'm giving the new braintrust too much credit...
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dhockster
Footballguy
I have to admit that after last years coaching fiasco, I will have a hard time giving Gruden credit for anything until his team starts winning or he starts to get really good performances from his players. So I am viewing his comments through that lens. Which is a very skeptical one.
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