***Official*** Washington Redskins 2015 Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)

[MattFancy]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

I wouldn't say they gave him the job. All he said was Robert was the #1 at the end of the season and he is the #1 going into the season. He never said RG3 was guaranteed the job or that he was even the Week 1 starter. I don't have a problem with Robert being the #1 right now. Someone technically has to be atop the depth chart.

too much has been handed to him. I'm not saying he'll still fail but I would have liked Gruden to just say "we don't have a #1 right now. It'll be a competition in Training Camp." As long as they make the decision timely in TC I'd be happy.

What is being handed to him right now? It's February. TC doesn't even start for another 5 months. Who know what happens there.

 

[hammerva]

It is like what Cooley said yesterday. If this competition was a mile long race then RG3 would have a 2 lap lead before the race started whether he deserves it or not. A QB on a 3 or 4 win doesn't deserve to having the starting QB that much of an advantage.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

As usual I think there's more behind the scenes. I suspect Cousins has already been traded verbally. So making the statement has no downside.

There are so many teams that need a QB, and there are not enough of them out there. Mariota and Winston will go early. There is nobody in free agency. So HOU, CLE, PHI, and even NYJ could be in need of a QB. Cousins is a convenient and cheap solution. 3rd or 4th rounder for a potential average starting QB? Sounds like a deal to me.

If Cousins isn't traded already, then the comment is idiotic. Forget who is better between him and RG3, or who you are going to start. There's just no need to say it until after the offseason dust settles and RG3 makes it through the pre-season healthy.

 

[hammerva]

The thing that is so typical Skins is that the owner still wants to shove Super Bob as the starting QB of the team but in terms of marketing the team in order to people to buy tickets there is no sign of him anywhere. Given his weasel ways it wouldn't surprise me if that was planned that way.

 

[Hang 10]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

 

[Marvelous]

As usual I think there's more behind the scenes. I suspect Cousins has already been traded verbally. So making the statement has no downside.

There are so many teams that need a QB, and there are not enough of them out there. Mariota and Winston will go early. There is nobody in free agency. So HOU, CLE, PHI, and even NYJ could be in need of a QB. Cousins is a convenient and cheap solution. 3rd or 4th rounder for a potential average starting QB? Sounds like a deal to me.

If Cousins isn't traded already, then the comment is idiotic. Forget who is better between him and RG3, or who you are going to start. There's just no need to say it until after the offseason dust settles and RG3 makes it through the pre-season healthy.

No way Cousins is worth a 3rd or 4th round pick. I saw an article yesterday suggesting the Redskins should trade Cousins for a 2nd round pick. Completely ludicrous.

Last off season, the Browns offered a 4th round pick for Cousins. During the season, Cousins was benched for Colt McCoy and later, Griffin got the nod when McCoy was injured. Cousins looks much closer to a 2nd or 3rd stringer than an average starting QB. I think the Redskins may be able to get a 7th round pick for Cousins. That is what backup QBs go for.

If that is the case, do the Redskins trade Cousins for a 7th round pick or keep him for the last year of his contract?

 

[hammerva]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

 

[MattFancy]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

I hate confident players

 

[Hang 10]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

 

[Archer]

pretty sure Robert knows he was great his first year, and pretty awful the last 2. I'm sure a lot of it was due to his injuries, but hopefully he sees areas he can improve with his mechanics and studying film/knowing reads better. I think people have given up on him prematurely, but I also agree if he can't stay healthy this year, or does stay healthy and doesn't produce, he's done as a quality NFL starting QB.

 

[Hang 10]

It's hard to imagine anyone being any more delusional and petty than Mike Shanahan is. Guy was a complete failure in Washington but it was always someone else's fault. Just shutup and go away, ratface.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

As usual I think there's more behind the scenes. I suspect Cousins has already been traded verbally. So making the statement has no downside.

There are so many teams that need a QB, and there are not enough of them out there. Mariota and Winston will go early. There is nobody in free agency. So HOU, CLE, PHI, and even NYJ could be in need of a QB. Cousins is a convenient and cheap solution. 3rd or 4th rounder for a potential average starting QB? Sounds like a deal to me.

If Cousins isn't traded already, then the comment is idiotic. Forget who is better between him and RG3, or who you are going to start. There's just no need to say it until after the offseason dust settles and RG3 makes it through the pre-season healthy.

No way Cousins is worth a 3rd or 4th round pick. I saw an article yesterday suggesting the Redskins should trade Cousins for a 2nd round pick. Completely ludicrous.

Last off season, the Browns offered a 4th round pick for Cousins. During the season, Cousins was benched for Colt McCoy and later, Griffin got the nod when McCoy was injured. Cousins looks much closer to a 2nd or 3rd stringer than an average starting QB. I think the Redskins may be able to get a 7th round pick for Cousins. That is what backup QBs go for.

If that is the case, do the Redskins trade Cousins for a 7th round pick or keep him for the last year of his contract?

7th, 4th. Whatever. I'd trade him for whatever you can get and re-resign McCoy and draft a qb in rounds 3-5. Cousins is a distraction to rg3 just by being here and having what weren't all that bad of numbers. Neither is likely a super bowl qb. So no reason to keep cousins if you can get anything at all for him.

 

[thayman]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

 

[Hang 10]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

I keep hearing how Griffin isnt self aware. Based on what?

Again does anyone think he doesn't know this season may be his last shot if doesn't improve?

 

[thayman]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

I keep hearing how Griffin isnt self aware. Based on what?Again does anyone think he doesn't know this season may be his last shot if doesn't improve?

I base it on my eyes, ears and reading comprehension. Easy example is his social media interactions of a few weeks ago.

 

[Hang 10]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

I keep hearing how Griffin isnt self aware. Based on what?Again does anyone think he doesn't know this season may be his last shot if doesn't improve?

I base it on my eyes, ears and reading comprehension. Easy example is his social media interactions of a few weeks ago.

So based on you thinking he shouldn't be tweeting and posting pictures on instagram?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

I keep hearing how Griffin isnt self aware. Based on what?Again does anyone think he doesn't know this season may be his last shot if doesn't improve?

I base it on my eyes, ears and reading comprehension. Easy example is his social media interactions of a few weeks ago.

So based on you thinking he shouldn't be tweeting and posting pictures on instagram?

No, based on the fact that he seemingly had no idea how he'd be perceived for responding to internet criticism. He's either oblivious and naive, or stupid. Has to be one or the other.

 

[Hang 10]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

I keep hearing how Griffin isnt self aware. Based on what?Again does anyone think he doesn't know this season may be his last shot if doesn't improve?

I base it on my eyes, ears and reading comprehension. Easy example is his social media interactions of a few weeks ago.

So based on you thinking he shouldn't be tweeting and posting pictures on instagram?

No, based on the fact that he seemingly had no idea how he'd be perceived for responding to internet criticism. He's either oblivious and naive, or stupid. Has to be one or the other.

Oh, it's a fact "seemingly" had no idea what the internet would think? I guess that means he has no idea he has to improve.

 

[thayman]

Maybe he should be the starter but giving him the job IN FEBRUARY really gives him no motivation at all to drastically improve his game. His ego is too massive to just hand something on a silver platter. That is how you got into the mess to begin with guys like Terry Shea and Richie Rich and Bruce Allen coddling him

You don't think Griffin realizes he needs to improve regardless if he's the starter or not? He's in a contract year and this is essentially his last shot to be a starter in DC...maybe anywhere in this league. Somehow I doubt that he's not aware of this.

Does he come off like a guy who has a strong sense of reality in terms of his abilities. Most of it is not his fault with guys like Terry Shea telling him he was an 'B+' or 'A-' quarterback in some of the worst games of the year. He still thinks of himself in the same light as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady

So what do you think he doesn't realize? Do you think he's unaware that he and the team have a horrible record the past 2 seasons? Do you think he doesn't know that the team isn't going pick up his option or give him a new contract if he doesn't play better?

I think he's the least self-aware person I've seen in a long time. Id like him to feel the pressure because I think that's the only way he'll develop into anything.

I keep hearing how Griffin isnt self aware. Based on what?Again does anyone think he doesn't know this season may be his last shot if doesn't improve?

I base it on my eyes, ears and reading comprehension. Easy example is his social media interactions of a few weeks ago.

So based on you thinking he shouldn't be tweeting and posting pictures on instagram?

No, based on the fact that he seemingly had no idea how he'd be perceived for responding to internet criticism. He's either oblivious and naive, or stupid. Has to be one or the other.

Oh, it's a fact "seemingly" had no idea what the internet would think? I guess that means he has no idea he has to improve.

No it shows me that he either:1. Doesn't understand the perception that he has incredibly thin skin and cant handle criticism.

2. Couldnt care less.

I don't find either option to be a trait of successful NFL QBs.

 

[Marvelous]

The first free agent signing: Jean Francois lands in D.C.

The Redskins have become very old in the DL. Players with their ages next year are:

Stephen Bowen 31

Barry Cofield 31

Jason Hatcher 33

and forever reserve: Kedric Goldston 32

Chris Baker 27, is the only regular who counts as a younger player.

I actually think DL is one of the Redskins biggest areas of need.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

The first free agent signing: Jean Francois lands in D.C.

The Redskins have become very old in the DL. Players with their ages next year are:

Stephen Bowen 31

Barry Cofield 31

Jason Hatcher 33

and forever reserve: Kedric Goldston 32

Chris Baker 27, is the only regular who counts as a younger player.

I actually think DL is one of the Redskins biggest areas of need.

Agree. If they can't trade down or pick up a guy like Dan Williams in free agency, then I think Danny Shelton has a very good chance of being the pick. All the current DT/NT are old and potential cap cuts. Need a player that can push the pocket back and stop the run. Francois may help, but he's not enough.

 

[dgreen]

Cofield cut. Supposed to provide about $4M of cap space.

 

[dgreen]

And now Bowen, saving another $5+ M on the cap.

 

[Archer]

love it. we have a real GM, and I believe the team will be much improved this offseason. How often have we been able to say that?

 

[Archer]

NBC Washington's Dianna Marie Russini reports the Redskins have "strong interest" in free agent OG Mike Iupati.
Redskins coach Jay Gruden has been transitioning away from smaller, athletic zone linemen to large power blockers for the last year and a half. Iupati is a 6-foot-5, 330-pound road grader whom new Redskins GM Scot McCloughan drafted in San Francisco. Iupati would be a natural fit in D.C. Per Russini, the Redskins can expect competition for Iupati's services from the Buccaneers.

We all know how badly we need OG help so this is only a good thing. And he's only 27 not over the hill.

 

[This_Guy]

I don't recall seeing it in here, but I apologize if this is old info.

I read earlier this week that AJ Smith is out of the picture. I guess they couldn't finalize a deal with him and parted ways. Sounds kind of like the negotiating was lingering then they got McLaughlin and lost interest in Smith.

Really glad to hear this. I think that guy is bad news. Seemed to rub people the wrong way everywhere he was. He had some success but it always seemed like his ego got in the way of true level of success possible.

 

[Marvelous]

I don't recall seeing it in here, but I apologize if this is old info.

I read earlier this week that AJ Smith is out of the picture. I guess they couldn't finalize a deal with him and parted ways. Sounds kind of like the negotiating was lingering then they got McLaughlin and lost interest in Smith.

Really glad to hear this. I think that guy is bad news. Seemed to rub people the wrong way everywhere he was. He had some success but it always seemed like his ego got in the way of true level of success possible.

Smith is gone. They could not agree on a contract.

The bottom line: The Redskins hired McLoughin. If Smtih was the right guy, he could have had the GM job.

The Redskins asked Green Bay for permission to interview a guy named Hightower, presumably for a high level, front office position under McLoughin. Although they were denied, the Redskins would have presumable created a position for him if the interview went well. They could have done the same for Smith if he was the right guy. But they did not.

In the end, AJ Smith wasn't the right guy, for whatever reason.

 

[thayman]

I don't recall seeing it in here, but I apologize if this is old info.

I read earlier this week that AJ Smith is out of the picture. I guess they couldn't finalize a deal with him and parted ways. Sounds kind of like the negotiating was lingering then they got McLaughlin and lost interest in Smith.

Really glad to hear this. I think that guy is bad news. Seemed to rub people the wrong way everywhere he was. He had some success but it always seemed like his ego got in the way of true level of success possible.

Smith is gone. They could not agree on a contract.

The bottom line: The Redskins hired McLoughin. If Smtih was the right guy, he could have had the GM job.

The Redskins asked Green Bay for permission to interview a guy named Hightower, presumably for a high level, front office position under McLoughin. Although they were denied, the Redskins would have presumable created a position for him if the interview went well. They could have done the same for Smith if he was the right guy. But they did not.

In the end, AJ Smith wasn't the right guy, for whatever reason.

He wouldn't move to the area. Sticking point was always that he wanted to maintain his residence is San Diego.

 

[Archer]

Rotoworld reporting that "Sources with the organization" tell NBC Washington that the Redskins are interested in free agent Ndamukong Suh.

 

[thayman]

Rotoworld reporting that "Sources with the organization" tell NBC Washington that the Redskins are interested in free agent Ndamukong Suh.

Every team should be interested in him. They should NOT be interested in what he will cost. It would be an awful signing that would set the team back in cap space. Yet if they did sign him I would not be surprised at all.

 

[Marvelous]

Rotoworld reporting that "Sources with the organization" tell NBC Washington that the Redskins are interested in free agent Ndamukong Suh.

Every team should be interested in him. They should NOT be interested in what he will cost. It would be an awful signing that would set the team back in cap space. Yet if they did sign him I would not be surprised at all.

I would be surprised. McCloughin has really set expectations that building the team will be primarily through the draft. Signing Suh would certainly look like business as usual at Redskin Park.

McCloughin has said they will be limited in free agency. But the Redskins really do need some players, even if it is just quality depth, at safety, DL, and LB. They won't have enough players in those positions even if they draft well.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I had never heard of 1stAmendment Sports (@DistrictStrong) before today so I don't know anything about their legitimacy, but they put out these tweets today:

Redskins News: Sources indicate the team would like to re-sign TE Niles Paul but the two sides are far from an agreement.

Redskins News: The team is not interested in re-signing running back Roy Helu Jr., according to sources.

Also from today: according to sources close to the situation, the Redskins are only offering OLB Brian Orakpo a 2-yr deal.

 

[dgreen]

Wow. What view does Niles Paul have of himself if the two sides are "far from an agreement"? Even if they offered him the minimum, how far apart can they possibly be?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Wow. What view does Niles Paul have of himself if the two sides are "far from an agreement"? Even if they offered him the minimum, how far apart can they possibly be?

Paul is a role player who is finally getting the chance to see what he's worth, that type of player often overvalues the worth of their services.

Although, he's also a great ST's player and was underutilized in the passing game here once he put it together last year (despite the drops). Remember the contract Lorenzo Alexander signed in ARI to be a ST's standout and compete for a starting job on defense?

These guys will often chase the money or chase the opportunity to be more than they were with the team that drafted them. Can't blame him for looking and it's a weak TE market as usual.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I had never heard of 1stAmendment Sports (@DistrictStrong) before today so I don't know anything about their legitimacy, but they put out these tweets today:

Redskins News: Sources indicate the team would like to re-sign TE Niles Paul but the two sides are far from an agreement.

Redskins News: The team is not interested in re-signing running back Roy Helu Jr., according to sources.

Also from today: according to sources close to the situation, the Redskins are only offering OLB Brian Orakpo a 2-yr deal.

I like a lot of this. Glad to see aome common sense.

I'd like niles paul back, but only because he's a good backup for reed and it allows them to cut Paulsen

Always disliked helu. You can find a lot of Helus for cheap.

I don't want orakpo back at all. It's not that he's bad. But culturally I think he needs to go. Remnant of the past and too many injuries.

Hopefully they snag Dan Williams or another NT. That guy makes the D better immediately. Frees up Kerrigan and makes drafting easier.

 

[(HULK)]

Suppose Chip wants to trade up to 5 for Mariotta. What can we expect back? 2 1s, a 2, and Foles maybe?

 

[Swing 51]

Suppose Chip wants to trade up to 5 for Mariotta. What can we expect back? 2 1s, a 2, and Foles maybe?

Moving from 20 to 5 would cost at least 3 1s right?

 

[(HULK)]

Suppose Chip wants to trade up to 5 for Mariotta. What can we expect back? 2 1s, a 2, and Foles maybe?

Moving from 20 to 5 would cost at least 3 1s right?

Just because we paid 3 1s and a 2 to move up a handful of picks doesn't mean others are dumb enough to do it though.

 

[Swing 51]

Suppose Chip wants to trade up to 5 for Mariotta. What can we expect back? 2 1s, a 2, and Foles maybe?

Moving from 20 to 5 would cost at least 3 1s right?

Just because we paid 3 1s and a 2 to move up a handful of picks doesn't mean others are dumb enough to do it though.

I hear ya. 20 to 5 seems like quite a jump tho.

 

[Marvelous]

Wow. What view does Niles Paul have of himself if the two sides are "far from an agreement"? Even if they offered him the minimum, how far apart can they possibly be?

Paul is a role player who is finally getting the chance to see what he's worth, that type of player often overvalues the worth of their services.

Although, he's also a great ST's player and was underutilized in the passing game here once he put it together last year (despite the drops). Remember the contract Lorenzo Alexander signed in ARI to be a ST's standout and compete for a starting job on defense?

These guys will often chase the money or chase the opportunity to be more than they were with the team that drafted them. Can't blame him for looking and it's a weak TE market as usual.

Guys like Alexander only get one payday. It makes sense to go after the money.

I don't think Paul is worth that much. He would be nice to keep as a special teamer.

 

[Marvelous]

Suppose Chip wants to trade up to 5 for Mariotta. What can we expect back? 2 1s, a 2, and Foles maybe?

Moving from 20 to 5 would cost at least 3 1s right?

Just because we paid 3 1s and a 2 to move up a handful of picks doesn't mean others are dumb enough to do it though.

I hear ya. 20 to 5 seems like quite a jump tho.

I keep hearing how you should not trade within the division and how you need to get more with a division rival. That thinking does not make any sense to me. Right now, the Redskins stink. So they need to make the move that improves the team the most. So if the Eagle are willing to trade up and make the biggest (and adequate) offer, they need to do the deal.

 

[Archer]

I am afraid the Eagles will trade up to 1.2 or higher. I would love nothing more than to have their QB on the clock when its our pick and fleece them

 

[Ted Mullins]

Atlanta/Kyle Shanahan will probably make a run at Niles Paul, they need a TE.

 

[(HULK)]

If there is strong Mariota interest, we could trade back with someone for sure... cause he isn't going later than 6.

Could be interesting for us.

We have so many holes and finally a good drafter... I'm all for trading back this time.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Niles Paul resigned.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000476984/article/niles-paul-washington-redskins-strike-threeyear-deal

 

[Sidewinder16]

Hogs Haven tracking Redskins rumors, reports and interests in free agency.

 

[(HULK)]

I feel like the Eagles are imploding right now. Too bad we're in no condition to take advantage of it on the field. Hopefully we can when they want to trade up for Mariota.

 

[nittanylion]

In an absolutely stunning turn of events...

...all quiet on the western front.

"Winning off the field..."

 

[MattFancy]

In an absolutely stunning turn of events...

...all quiet on the western front.

"Winning off the field..."

I kinda like it. This team has so many holes that signing overpriced aging FAs wasn't going to solve much. Does sound like they are adding Paeas though.

 

[Hang 10]

C'mon guys, I know secretly you were wishing for Suh taking up 50% of our cap space!