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Over / Under before Marshall gets suspended (1 Viewer)

What is the point of this thread?

Reportedly, he has moved in with Cutler, sought counseling and is being mentored by Rod Smith.

 
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:goodposting:

Not even going to try and speculate on this. As long as he isn't suspended, he's firmly entrenched in starting lineups everywhere. Including two of my teams. :lmao:

 
has he really done that much?

I don't follow the off the field stuff.

so far, I heard about him eff'ing around and cutting himself up, and the dui -- is there more?

 
-baller said:
has he really done that much?I don't follow the off the field stuff.so far, I heard about him eff'ing around and cutting himself up, and the dui -- is there more?
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There's some domestic violence charges that I believe were dropped and some still insist on blaming for DWill's death.
 
JohnnyU said:
I know everyone has a h-on for Marshall, but let's not forget who we are dealing with here.
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here is my pollA. Played against him this past week??? :headbang: B. Didn't draft him :rolleyes: C. Royal sits on your bench :rolleyes: D. All the above :rolleyes:
 
FavreCo said:
Raider Nation said:
Name the person in this thread who missed out on drafting Marshall... :headbang:
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JohnnyU. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Must be playing against Marshall soon. I won't be worried about Marshall until January or so. But as stated earlier, the smart $ has Marshall AND Royal.
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Hey, I'm just interested in what he will do from this point forward. I have him in 2 leagues, so I have my eye on this. I worry that he will f-up again. It's not like it's out of the realm of possibility. Once a bad apple........well, let's hope I'm wrong about finishing that sentence.
 
It's a legitimate concern for Dynasty leaguers.

For those who are jumping all over Johnny U for the topic, are you at all familiar with his lengthy history of "incidents"? It's unreal how long that thing is.

 
Fear & Loathing said:
It's a legitimate concern for Dynasty leaguers. For those who are jumping all over Johnny U for the topic, are you at all familiar with his lengthy history of "incidents"? It's unreal how long that thing is.
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Mostly a bunch of dropped charges and he said she siad stuff. not much to it really.
 
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JohnnyU said:
I know everyone has a h-on for Marshall, but let's not forget who we are dealing with here.
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Do you have Marshall in any leagues? Just wondering....
 
Fear & Loathing said:
It's a legitimate concern for Dynasty leaguers. For those who are jumping all over Johnny U for the topic, are you at all familiar with his lengthy history of "incidents"? It's unreal how long that thing is.
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I'm very familiar with it...and also with the fact that most of it is BS with what appears a psycho X-GF, and a couple of obvious college pranks. While very lengthy, there is very little of substance on it besides a DUI. Thus the reason he received only a one game suspension from hard-nosed Goodell.While he certainly carries more risk and a higher tool factor then most players, he doesn't appear to be in the Henry/PacMan mold. The risk is dramaticly over-stated. Just MHO.
 
Fear & Loathing said:
It's a legitimate concern for Dynasty leaguers. For those who are jumping all over Johnny U for the topic, are you at all familiar with his lengthy history of "incidents"? It's unreal how long that thing is.
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I agree its a legit concern, its the one thing keeping Marshall in the same realm as AJ and Edwards instead of Wayne and Fitz in dynasty leagues. That being said, to assume he will get in trouble is a bad idea, but the worry is there.
 
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Buffaloes said:
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:
Buffaloes said:
JohnnyU said:
Buffaloes said:
What is the point of this thread?

Reportedly, he has moved in with Cutler, sought counseling and is being mentored by Rod Smith.
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Ok, that makes it all better and I'm sorry for making this thread.
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These things happen.
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Does "Reportedly" mean "true"? Is he really living with Cutler?
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Maybe it was just for his suspension
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Okay, so they're not. Doesn't sound like they ever did, actually, but who cares, it does appear Marshall is maturing. I like that he talked about being accountable -- good sign. I wish I had him...Thanks for digging that up. :unsure:

 
what's with people? If you don't like the point of the thread, then don't read/post in it. Absolutely no need for antagonizing. It doesn't do anybody any good and it's exactly what makes these forums harder and harder to read over the years.

back to the OP's question - I'm going on pure guess, but he seems excited to be back on the field and I don't think he'll mess up (during) this season. Only way I see him missing games is getting injured.

 
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JohnnyU said:
I know everyone has a h-on for Marshall, but let's not forget who we are dealing with here.
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I offered the house (Pierre Thomas, Ray Rice, and two first round picks) for him in my dynasty league. then i realized, if he messes up again it means he's going to miss more than just a game or two... I chickened out and withdrew my offer. I would love to have him on my team and he'd be worth that offer if he was guaranteed to stay out of trouble, but with the new NFL "no-nonsense" policy it was just too scary to risk my entire team's future on him.
 
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Glatty said:
what's with people? If you don't like the point of the thread, then don't read/post in it. Absolutely no need for antagonizing. It doesn't do anybody any good and it's exactly what makes these forums harder and harder to read over the years.back to the OP's question - I'm going on pure guess, but he seems excited to be back on the field and I don't think he'll mess up (during) this season. Only way I see him missing games is getting injured.
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His post has no fantasy relevence and it is apparent he has nothing more in mind than using his agenda to troll these forums. If you don't like our responses take your own advice and disregard them.
 
Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.

Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time?

:shrug:

 
JohnnyU said:
FavreCo said:
Raider Nation said:
Name the person in this thread who missed out on drafting Marshall... :shrug:
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JohnnyU. :lmao: ;) Must be playing against Marshall soon. I won't be worried about Marshall until January or so. But as stated earlier, the smart $ has Marshall AND Royal.
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Hey, I'm just interested in what he will do from this point forward. I have him in 2 leagues, so I have my eye on this. I worry that he will f-up again. It's not like it's out of the realm of possibility. Once a bad apple........well, let's hope I'm wrong about finishing that sentence.
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Oh... please do finish that sentence... I love mixed metaphors!Anyway... I set aside my off the field concerns for Marshall when I found out he was reading/had read the new age self-help book by John Miguel Ruiz called "The Four Agreements".

Real thugs don't be readin' n shieet.

 
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
Glatty said:
what's with people? If you don't like the point of the thread, then don't read/post in it. Absolutely no need for antagonizing. It doesn't do anybody any good and it's exactly what makes these forums harder and harder to read over the years.back to the OP's question - I'm going on pure guess, but he seems excited to be back on the field and I don't think he'll mess up (during) this season. Only way I see him missing games is getting injured.
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His post has no fantasy relevence and it is apparent he has nothing more in mind than using his agenda to troll these forums. If you don't like our responses take your own advice and disregard them.
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Actually, opinions/predictions on whether or not a stud WR will miss time does have fantasy relevance. True, no one knows for sure, but the past behavior is usually a pretty good predictor of future behavior, and if there are people here that have followed him from high school (and that does happen).. then we might find he has a long history of getting in trouble.. and if that's the case, it's a good gamble he will do it again (a la Chris Henry). no one knows - and THAT's the point of this thread. Simply insulting the poster and shooting him down does not have any value-added effect and only devalues the thread. If you think it's a pointless thread and he won't miss any time, then a simple "i don't see it happening" would be much more appreciated by all, rather than "you're jealous", which, quite simply, isn't even an argument, it's a childish attack lacking any substance.and btw, doesn't everyone use these forums for their own agenda? that's the point of them, to gain information to use for your own team/league.
 
thatguy said:
JohnnyU said:
Buffaloes said:
What is the point of this thread? Reportedly, he has moved in with Cutler, sought counseling and is being mentored by Rod Smith.
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Ok, that makes it all better and I'm sorry for making this thread.
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It certainly makes a difference. The guy is making a legitimate effort to turn his life around.
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Maybe I'm just jaded, but all that means to me is that he's making a legitimate effort to convince everyone he's making a legitimate effort to turn his life around in order to avoid missing time. I mean, it's not like he sought out Rod Smith- he got in trouble, and he tried to get out of it by bringing Rod Smith on board.Now, I think it's a positive that he's trying so hard to stay on the field, but at the same time, you'll pardon me if I don't get all "aww shucks" here.
renesauz said:
Fear & Loathing said:
It's a legitimate concern for Dynasty leaguers. For those who are jumping all over Johnny U for the topic, are you at all familiar with his lengthy history of "incidents"? It's unreal how long that thing is.
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I'm very familiar with it...and also with the fact that most of it is BS with what appears a psycho X-GF, and a couple of obvious college pranks. While very lengthy, there is very little of substance on it besides a DUI. Thus the reason he received only a one game suspension from hard-nosed Goodell.While he certainly carries more risk and a higher tool factor then most players, he doesn't appear to be in the Henry/PacMan mold. The risk is dramaticly over-stated. Just MHO.
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Only a couple of college pranks? You make it sound like every college kid has all sorts of run-ins with the law over college pranks.The simple fact of the matter is that Marshall was viewed as a character concern coming into the league (part of the reason for his "Baby T.O." nickname), and since being in the league has provided several reasons to continue to doubt his character. He's already received his first character-related suspension, too. One more slip-up and he's getting the hammer, hard. That's a serious risk that Marshall owners have to face compared to, say, Fitzgerald owners. Dominant talent like Marshall's often justifies the risk, but not only is he significantly more likely to do something stupid than a Fitzgerald, he's also facing a significantly harsher penalty if he finally does. That risk is real.
 
Glatty said:
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
Glatty said:
what's with people? If you don't like the point of the thread, then don't read/post in it. Absolutely no need for antagonizing. It doesn't do anybody any good and it's exactly what makes these forums harder and harder to read over the years.back to the OP's question - I'm going on pure guess, but he seems excited to be back on the field and I don't think he'll mess up (during) this season. Only way I see him missing games is getting injured.
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His post has no fantasy relevence and it is apparent he has nothing more in mind than using his agenda to troll these forums. If you don't like our responses take your own advice and disregard them.
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Actually, opinions/predictions on whether or not a stud WR will miss time does have fantasy relevance. True, no one knows for sure, but the past behavior is usually a pretty good predictor of future behavior, and if there are people here that have followed him from high school (and that does happen).. then we might find he has a long history of getting in trouble.. and if that's the case, it's a good gamble he will do it again (a la Chris Henry). no one knows - and THAT's the point of this thread. Simply insulting the poster and shooting him down does not have any value-added effect and only devalues the thread. If you think it's a pointless thread and he won't miss any time, then a simple "i don't see it happening" would be much more appreciated by all, rather than "you're jealous", which, quite simply, isn't even an argument, it's a childish attack lacking any substance.and btw, doesn't everyone use these forums for their own agenda? that's the point of them, to gain information to use for your own team/league.
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I made a similar post in the contest two weeks ago, where any one of the participants could have him. He has a chance to make history stats wise, so we'll see how it turns out. But the reality on this is - he could disappear any week. Its no different than getting injured though, for those of us that have M. Colston, the net result is the same.
 
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thehornet said:
Mostly a bunch of dropped charges and he said she siad stuff. not much to it really.
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How many times have you been charged with a crime, whether dropped or not?
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Also, that really doesn't characterize Marshall's rap sheet at all. There are a LOT of dropped charges and he said/she said stuff, yes... but there's a lot of other stuff to it, too. In college he was arrested for assault on a law enforcement officer, refusal to obey, disorderly conduct, and resisting an officer (those "college pranks" alluded to earlier). He got a DUI. He got in a shouting match during a meeting last year with (then receivers coach, now offensive coordinator/playcaller) Jeremy Bates, reportedly asking for his release. Shanahan called him out last season, accusing him of malingering and using a supposed injury as an excuse to not do work. Cutler royally ripped him this offseason and told him in no uncertain terms to grow up. Even if we ignore the dozen incidents involving his supposedly now ex-girlfriend (call it a really, really, really, really long mental lapse), we can't just wave a magic wand and have everything else go away. There is a definite history here. I want as much as everyone for him to succeed, and I think he is honestly going to work his butt off to ensure that he stays on the field... but we can't just ignore his history as if it never happened.
 
SSOG said:
thatguy said:
JohnnyU said:
Buffaloes said:
What is the point of this thread? Reportedly, he has moved in with Cutler, sought counseling and is being mentored by Rod Smith.
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Ok, that makes it all better and I'm sorry for making this thread.
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It certainly makes a difference. The guy is making a legitimate effort to turn his life around.
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Maybe I'm just jaded, but all that means to me is that he's making a legitimate effort to convince everyone he's making a legitimate effort to turn his life around in order to avoid missing time. I mean, it's not like he sought out Rod Smith- he got in trouble, and he tried to get out of it by bringing Rod Smith on board.Now, I think it's a positive that he's trying so hard to stay on the field, but at the same time, you'll pardon me if I don't get all "aww shucks" here.
renesauz said:
Fear & Loathing said:
It's a legitimate concern for Dynasty leaguers. For those who are jumping all over Johnny U for the topic, are you at all familiar with his lengthy history of "incidents"? It's unreal how long that thing is.
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I'm very familiar with it...and also with the fact that most of it is BS with what appears a psycho X-GF, and a couple of obvious college pranks. While very lengthy, there is very little of substance on it besides a DUI. Thus the reason he received only a one game suspension from hard-nosed Goodell.While he certainly carries more risk and a higher tool factor then most players, he doesn't appear to be in the Henry/PacMan mold. The risk is dramaticly over-stated. Just MHO.
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Only a couple of college pranks? You make it sound like every college kid has all sorts of run-ins with the law over college pranks.The simple fact of the matter is that Marshall was viewed as a character concern coming into the league (part of the reason for his "Baby T.O." nickname), and since being in the league has provided several reasons to continue to doubt his character. He's already received his first character-related suspension, too. One more slip-up and he's getting the hammer, hard. That's a serious risk that Marshall owners have to face compared to, say, Fitzgerald owners. Dominant talent like Marshall's often justifies the risk, but not only is he significantly more likely to do something stupid than a Fitzgerald, he's also facing a significantly harsher penalty if he finally does. That risk is real.
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Check out the old thread on this. GOOD EXAMPLE: He was arrested and charged with shoplifting while RETURNING stolen bedsheets?I'm not trying to make him into a saint...I'm simply saying that there isn't a whole lot of real substance in his "rap sheet". Does he carry risk? Heck yes he does...but said risk seems dramaticly overstated, and the very minor suspension he got kind of backs up what I'm saying.
 
Letum said:
Support JohnnyU here. Legit question. Same questions as T. and C. Henry and Pac.Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring history. 3 game suspension reduced to 1. What happens next time? :wolf:
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:shrug: This is stupid. Why not start a poll for every player to get injured? You can not predict what will happen. where is the poll about Tank Johnson or anyone in the drug program? :rolleyes: This is nothing but a huge :fishy: trip
 
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