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Ozark on Netflix (2 Viewers)
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Bromigo
i like how you saved the capital letters to the end that is sort of a neat twist on the swc thing take that to the bank brohtis
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I got through 7. Not sure I'm gonna make it any further.
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
In.
pantherclub
Footballguy
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AcerFC
Footballguy
I dont really get any of it, even after his 101 to the son. I thought about this as well.
I also thought, why would Mexicans need clean money. Certainly no questions from mexican IRS
Galileo
Footballguy
Anyway, I just watched the first episode. Things escalated pretty quickly in that first episode. Marty's little speech to save his butt didn't seem real convincing to me. Not really sure why a big time drug boss wouldn't just find another way to handle his finances rather than let someone who just witnessed what Marty witnessed stay alive. So the premise is a little rough for me, but it was decent enough that I will watch episode 2.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Watched ep 1 a few days ago, and 2 and 3 last night. Enjoying it so far. I'm glad I can enjoy TV like this for what it is, entertainment, and not have to be worried about plot holes and question why it isn't more like a documentary of how actual laundering would work of if people should make the decisions they should. Is it interesting and entertaining? To me, yes, and I will keep watching.
dgreen
Footballguy
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Yeah it's about getting cash from drug transactions into the banking system so it can be used legitimately. A problem for the cartels even in Mexico. Washing it means getting the cash into the banking system through seemingly legitimate businesses, like a strip club, investment management, funeral home, construction of a church, casino, etc. where cash would be a form of payment and the volume of the business "washes" the cash gotten illegally into seeming legitimate. There mob traditionally is involved in bars, clubs, strip clubs, construction, etc. to get their cash into the banking system. Being able to get duffle bags of cash into a bank account or make high dollar purchases with cash was taken out of the equation during the cocaine 80s in Miami.
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Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
mquinnjr
Footballguy
I know of a bookie whose front is his body shop. That's a good one, enough coverage from insurance claims to balance out cash transactions of a high enough value to effectively clean the cash. It's a service business and you could wash the cash via the labor worked and itemized on the invoice, independent small shop so not like a pep boys where credit cards would be used. In case of an audit, less of an inventory risk than say a supermarket front.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
What if Marty and his family were about to be killed by rival money-launderers in their town, but were saved at the last moment by a massive fire-breathing dragon that rose out of the woods and killed the bad guys? Would that plot device affect your enjoyment of the show?Bull Dozier said:
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
That would put it in the realm of fantasy. Had I known it was fantasy when I went in, no it wouldn't bother me. If I thought it was a modern day story, it would.
I went in to this knowing it was a dramedy (or at least expected a drama with some humor moments). Tight, always realistic story lines weren't my expectation. In just about every show there are points where you must suspend disbelief occasionally, or usually, to enjoy the show. This is no different.
Can you throw some examples at me where there are highly enjoyably shows that don't have at least some plot holes, or points where they have to ignore reality to get the story moving? I would imagine this eliminates anything having to do with sports and law, as that almost always requires stretching reality. But, I'm open to the possibilities.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Not sure if anyone remembers the old chain of "OD Surfshop" in mrytle beach in the 80s but there were a ton of them in the area with mostly crap in them. They closed almost over night because the feds figurrd out it was a huge front for a massive coke operation. I think there is either a book about it or some in depth magazine article.mquinnjr said:
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I'm sure just about every television show has plot holes and unlikely conveniences. Its hard to put my finger on why it bothers me in some shows and not in others. With this show, I guess there is some comedy involved, but I think the problem for me is the plot is presented more as a gritty financial/crime drama, with a backdrop of marital issues, raising adolescent kids, homosexuality and the like. They try to develop some depth with the main characters. They try to present financial accounting and tax issues in a realistic way. But then there are these massive improbabilities right from the first episode, and it only builds from there.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
I get that certain things can bother different people for random and unclear reasons.* The liberties taken in Ozark don't bother me, yet at least.
*On a side note, here's an example of a somewhat random reason I can't get in to shows. My wife loved White Collar. I couldn't stand it because the protagonist was a bad person (criminal) who appeared to occasionally do good things when it was convenient. That bothered me. Yet, Walter White didn't bother me in Breaking Bad because I think I viewed him as a good person who did bad things out of convenience/necessity, but for good reasons. I have a few examples like this in different shows, where i just couldn't get past the main character. I fully wouldn't expect other people to have this same hang up. I haven't decided about Batemen's character here yet, so I'm still along for the ride.
MrJimiT
Footballguy
I think I emotionally feel about the same with the character Marty as I did with the character Walter White. Sort of a soft spot for the good guy doing bad things - circumstances notwithstanding.
pantherclub
Footballguy
I keep coming back to the drug boss just openly killing folks in the USA and being in the country to start with. I am pretty sure they never leave the security of where they are from.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
I loved this line with that said (spoiler coming):
"You know the great thing about Mexico? It's filled with lots of Mexicans!" When Del Rio's head was literally blown into pieces for being disrespectful in Snell's house. Why did he need to be there in the first place? Sure the other guy was killed, but why not send someone else to Missouri to follow up on why he wasn't picking up his phone?" [\spoiler]
NotSmart
Footballguy
At least in this show anyways, I think it's a good sub plot line.
At first it seemed like she was contemplating suicide, but there was no indication of that ahead of time, so I took it as her just enjoying a moment of solitude and momentary protection from the chaos her life had become.AcerFC said:
Marty had already witnessed Del kill someone plus been laundering his cash for years, so Del had no worries there.Galileo said:
Anyway, I just watched the first episode. Things escalated pretty quickly in that first episode. Marty's little speech to save his butt didn't seem real convincing to me. Not really sure why a big time drug boss wouldn't just find another way to handle his finances rather than let someone who just witnessed what Marty witnessed stay alive. So the premise is a little rough for me, but it was decent enough that I will watch episode 2.
I thought Marty's speech was spot on... desperately searching for an idea to stay alive... if the brochure hadn't fallen out of his pocket when he got his cell phone out, he probably wouldn't have thought of an idea in time.
Yep, my first thought the second they started putting the cash in the walls.
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Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
I don't think Del was "the" boss, just the American rep for the real drug lord back in Mehico.
Just finished the series tonight and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, not the best show ever created but it was definitely entertaining. I'll tell you what...and this will anger the GOT nerds...this series was much more entertaining than the earlier GOT episodes. I tried catching up on them and it became a chore. I actually looked forward to watching each episode in this series. A few comments/questions....
1. I wasn't a fan of the flashback episode (8, I think). It was too jumpy and didn't really need to have the fbi mother heroin user story line in it, imo. I definitely started to root AGAINST the Byrds after that episide and seeing that they willingly went to work for the cartel.
2. When the Snells were giving Marty hell, whether it was episode 9 or earlier in the series, why didn't Marty just tell Del? Couldn't Del and his boys handle it?
3. The cramping scene in water with Charlotte was silly.
4. Was Buddy the "duck, dodge, dip" guy from Dodgeball?
5. Was Tucker the son of Rachel? Do you think we see here in season 2, if there is one?
6. I thought the 4 symbols at the beginning of each episode was a nice touch.
7. Real life question...is the Ozarks a nice place to visit?.
2. When the Snells were giving Marty hell, whether it was episode 9 or earlier in the series, why didn't Marty just tell Del? Couldn't Del and his boys handle it?
3. The cramping scene in water with Charlotte was silly.
4. Was Buddy the "duck, dodge, dip" guy from Dodgeball?
5. Was Tucker the son of Rachel? Do you think we see here in season 2, if there is one?
6. I thought the 4 symbols at the beginning of each episode was a nice touch.
7. Real life question...is the Ozarks a nice place to visit?.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Just finished. Will probably watch at least the start of season 2 but I'm not in love with it. I know its how most teenagers are in real life, but it just drives me nuts when "kids doing/saying dumb ####" drives action in a show like this. Marty's kid is like Carl from TWD on stupid steroids.
And yeah, I don't get why Marty doesn't simply make a call to the Mexicans the first time the hillbillies threaten his life and his mission.
"Hey Dell. We have a problem. There's a family of heroin dealing rednecks living on a plantation that are jeopardizing what we're trying to do here"
Cartel sends hit squad. Problem solved.
And yeah, I don't get why Marty doesn't simply make a call to the Mexicans the first time the hillbillies threaten his life and his mission.
"Hey Dell. We have a problem. There's a family of heroin dealing rednecks living on a plantation that are jeopardizing what we're trying to do here"
Cartel sends hit squad. Problem solved.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yep, this was filmed just a few miles from me. The restaurant they changed over was crap - unbelievable location but horrible management/execution. One of those smalls homes next door was actually a summer lake house my BIL/SIL owned at one time. They kept their boat in the marina next door and we would boat and jet ski in that area a lot.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
We'll be out on the ol' Allatoony this weekend on a rented pontoon boat. :banjos:
AAABatteries
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Season definitely slowed in the middle for me. Also, I get the some of the complaints - there were definitely a few eye rolling moments. Glad I stuck around because I thought the last two episodes were great. In for season 2.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I liked it.
Thought Laura Linney was a bad choice for the wife.
Julia Garner is hot even as a trailer park hillbilly
Thought Laura Linney was a bad choice for the wife.
Julia Garner is hot even as a trailer park hillbilly
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Meh. Great casting choice because she looks like your typical 16 year old redneck chick.
Patrick Bateman
Footballguy
Agree with hillbillies being invincible. That was my biggest beef with the season. Just too far fetched.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Yeah. A couple kids & restraining orders with her would be at least as good as my life now and possibly even better. IN
NotSmart
Footballguy
NotSmart
Footballguy
I was mostly making a pun on the minor eye incident between Del and his previous golf and wife cheating money launderer that Marty replaced.
While I wouldn't call it the best one, I liked the flashback episode and thought it provided a good foundation and backstory.
