Bronco Billy said:
It's seems almost too obvious to say, but here it goes anyhow:
If Garoppolo were a franchise QB, NE would not put him on the block. With Brady's age, they do what GB did with Rodgers - keep the much younger franchise stud.
If he is not a franchise QB, there is no way you part with a 1st rounder for him, much less a 1st and a 4th Then you are trading for either a game manager, a place holder, or a backup
NE knows him better than anyone. That NE is opting to put Garoppolo even remotely out there IMO means that they do not believe he is a franchise QB.
If I can figure that out, so can every GM in the league. Sportswriters should be able to also. So for them to even give the story a sniff they are either ignorantly or intentionally being used by BB. Either way, it's pretty damning to their credibility.
Couldn't disagree more.
NE doesn't know if Jimmah is a franchise QB (neither does anyone else), but everyone knows Brady is.
Jimmah might be a franchise QB (fqb) in the same way numerous teams felt Bradford, Goff, Bortles etc might be franchise qbs, the patriots and everyone else dont know so it makes little sense for us to "hypothesize" as if they do.
I agree that NE does know Jimmah better than anyone else but I don't see how one then makes the leap to they wouldn't trade him if they thought theres a chance he might really be good (in essence what u r claiming). If they (or any1 else) knew for certain he was a franchise qb (which is of course impossible at this point) he would be worth multiple 1st rd picks but they have no way of knowing that. There is lots of room between bust qb and fqb and many teams would be happy just to have a solid if unspectacular starter.
What NE does know is in brady they already have a franchise QB who will likely play at a high level for the next 2-4 years and they cannot afford to pay a backup, starter money. NE will do what they almost always do (whats best for the team) and in this case that will likely mean trading Jimmah away while his value is high.
To pretend the patriots won't get significant picks for Jimmah (at least at this juncture) and that the "story" has no validity seems rather silly.
Will the patriots get a first (likely late) for Jimmah? At this juncture I would say they almost certainly will. Is that because I feel he is a fqb? Nope, its because there is a dearth of starting caliber QBs in the league and it makes too much sense for some other team not to take a chance on him.
I don't understand how everyone seems to be focused only on the draft picks when the time and money investment are as (if not) more important. If you use a high draft pick on a qb u lose the pick AND you lose time and money hoping he will develop. Imho much of that risk is mitigated with trading for Jimmah; you don't have to wait 2-3 years for him to develop (meanwhile losing time, money & opportunity to find the right guy) you only lose the pick(s). If he flames out year one you move on, but if you draft a potential fqb who flops you lose multiple years and much money.
FTR, I thought Mallett stunk and never thought they would get much for him and I didn't think much of Jimmah coming in but I have to admit he has shown promise. The qb market (like most) is driven by supply and demand and for that reason alone I would be surprised if Jimmah doesn't command at least a 1st or damn near close to it.
Peace