Peterson charged with reckless or negligent injury to a child? (3 Viewers)

[Jules Winnfield]

Remember when Petersons kid died last year, and he did not meet the kid until the day he died according to reports. This is a bad person.

Just because he's not great with kids doesn't make him a bad person.

Your right, 2 kids abused, one dead.. Father of the Year.

The guy is a POS!!

How's that glass house, Penn Stater?

Yeah cause I was for Sandusky? He is a big POIS. I have said that many times. Doesn't make the school bad.

Just Sandusky AND Paterno. What the hell else is there at Penn State?

Seriously...I think they have a good wrestling program

 

[General Tso]

So as not to lose the forest through the trees, another great article talking about what kids "learn" with spankings and corporal punishment. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2014/09/adrian_peterson_and_corporal_punishment_hitting_children_teaches_them_nothing.html

I can tell you what kids learn from being hit. They don’t learn whatever you’re telling them while you’re hitting them. They learn about hitting, and about you. When violence is the medium, violence is the message.

Study after study documents this pattern. It suffuses every interaction between adults and children: love, cooperation, exploitation, violence. The strongest predictor of whether a child thinks it’s OK to hit kids, and whether he’ll grow up to do so, is how often he’s been disciplined that way. Light spanking isn’t as bad as wielding a tree branch. But it’s part of the continuum. Researchers call this the “hidden curriculum”: Corporal punishment teaches itself.

But when you hit a child for hitting another child, the hitting does all the talking. That’s the upshot of a recent study of more than 100 children and their parents. Every parent who approved of spanking a child for hitting a sibling passed this belief on to their kids. And 79 percent of kids who came from homes with lots of spanking said they’d hit a sibling for trying to watch a different TV show—almost the same scenario that led to Peterson’s beating of his son. According to the researchers, “Not one child from a no-spanking home chose to resolve these conflicts by hitting.” The kids absorbed the model, not the lecture.

 

[Neofight]

I will ask the same question I posed to Kitrick. How many times, and how hard, CAN a woman strike a man before he can reasonably retaliate physically?

I suppose that's going to vary from man to man. If that woman isn't armed with a blunt instrument, I'd give her a few attempts to blow her steam off before I wrapped her up to stop the blows. That's if I was trapped in an elevator*. If I was in the open, I'd just walk away (run if necessary) or call attention to her erratic behavior to shame her.

I suppose there is no "right" answer is there? In your hypothetical you feel compelled to allow the woman "a few" whacks while maintaining that it's never ok to strike a woman. However, as "justified" as it may be to allow the woman "several attempts" due to difference in average physical prowess... your opinion is still based on old-fashioned ideas of chivalry and gender roles, not dissimilar to old-fashioned ideas about physically disciplining children.

Still they are your opinions and not universal truths. But you still fail to answer the actual question posed - Quid pro quo? If I may subsitute the word "fair" for justice for a second... How many punches by a woman does it take before it's "fair" for a man to punch back? A quantitative number is obviously insufficient as an answer, and thus in the absence of an absolute paradigm we only have our legal system to lean on. As such, according to our legal system, a man CAN successful maintain a case of self-defense case against a woman given the right circumstances.

I can perhaps invent an answer to your question of when it's "ok" to hit a woman, but I imagine there are plenty of real life cases you can find on the internet where it's been "justified".

You asked the question, I answered. Enough with the equivocation and amateur psychology. You asked the question and posed the hypothetical, yet you don't hazard a simple answer. Striking back is always a choice.Here's one maybe you'll take a jab at: how many times have you hit a woman?

How many licks are permissible for a 4 year old?

Stick or belt?

Blood or welt?

 

[SameSongNDance]

The text messages go on to show Peterson saying he was disciplining his son for cussing to a sibling.

Not illegal to slap a kid either.

This 4-year old kid was hit hard enough in the head to cause him to bleed and be left with a scar. Are you seriously advocating that?

 

[KellysHeroes]

TMZ reports Adrian Peterson has already been cleared of the latest child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.
Peterson was accused of hitting one of his other son's, a four-year-old, in the forehead, leaving him with a scar, after disciplining him for cursing at a sibling. A source informed the case went nowhere because it was determine the boy was injured when he accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Peterson was punishing him. Peterson's form of discipline was "not impermissible." In Texas, parents are allowed to administer "reasonable punishment."

 

[tone1oc]

Everything is bigger in Texas, including child abuse.

 

[Johnny Blood]

Unfortunately most people who beat their children probably don't care about studies or evidence. It's enough to just assume it works, or to inexplicably say that it was done to Peterson so it's OK.

Yeah---Peterson was beaten as a child, and now he's impregnated half a dozen women so obviously it turned him into a real man.

 

[chinawildman]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

 

[djmich]

Shocked that there are other similar issues with children.

 

[Johnny Blood]

TMZ reports Adrian Peterson has already been cleared of the latest child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.
Peterson was accused of hitting one of his other son's, a four-year-old, in the forehead, leaving him with a scar, after disciplining him for cursing at a sibling. A source informed the case went nowhere because it was determine the boy was injured when he accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Peterson was punishing him. Peterson's form of discipline was "not impermissible." In Texas, parents are allowed to administer "reasonable punishment."

The four year old apologizes for his role in the situation.

 

[KellysHeroes]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

didn't he admit to whoopin the kid?

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

The text messages go on to show Peterson saying he was disciplining his son for cussing to a sibling.

Not illegal to slap a kid either.

This 4-year old kid was hit hard enough in the head to cause him to bleed and be left with a scar. Are you seriously advocating that?

I'm not advocating it and am in fact 100% against using physical punishment against children (except in Delaware).

It is, however, legal.

Change the law.

 

[RichInOrlando]

TMZ reports Adrian Peterson has already been cleared of the latest child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.

Peterson was accused of hitting one of his other son's, a four-year-old, in the forehead, leaving him with a scar, after disciplining him for cursing at a sibling. A source informed the case went nowhere because it was determine the boy was injured when he accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Peterson was punishing him. Peterson's form of discipline was "not impermissible." In Texas, parents are allowed to administer "reasonable punishment."

If this is true, Peterson will be clear in Minnesotas eyes. Minnesota has already taken the stance they will allow the legal process to play out. Seeing as this recent case fell through, chances are he's clear ... for now.

 

[SameSongNDance]

TMZ reports Adrian Peterson has already been cleared of the latest child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.
Peterson was accused of hitting one of his other son's, a four-year-old, in the forehead, leaving him with a scar, after disciplining him for cursing at a sibling. A source informed the case went nowhere because it was determine the boy was injured when he accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Peterson was punishing him. Peterson's form of discipline was "not impermissible." In Texas, parents are allowed to administer "reasonable punishment."

The four year old apologizes for his role in the situation.

"I'm sorry Daddy Peterson hit me so hard that I cut my head on the car seat, I should have kept still."

 

[RenegadeRoy]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

Yes. I'm going to think that if AP wasn't swinging away at a four year old, there wouldn't have been an "accident" in the first place...

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Shocked that there are other similar issues with children.

That's the way he parents and the way the law allows.

Again, change the law.

 

[SameSongNDance]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

You will forever be known as a child abuse apologist. Good job dude.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

TMZ reports Adrian Peterson has already been cleared of the latest child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.

Peterson was accused of hitting one of his other son's, a four-year-old, in the forehead, leaving him with a scar, after disciplining him for cursing at a sibling. A source informed the case went nowhere because it was determine the boy was injured when he accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Peterson was punishing him. Peterson's form of discipline was "not impermissible." In Texas, parents are allowed to administer "reasonable punishment."

If this is true, Peterson will be clear in Minnesotas eyes. Minnesota has already taken the stance they will allow the legal process to play out. Seeing as this recent case fell through, chances are he's clear ... for now.

I would bet any amount of money that he sees zero jail time. He will either be let off completely or be found guilty of domestic assault and given probation/parenting classes/community service. If that does happen then he'll get a 6 game suspension next year.

 

[donkshow]

Jesus what a joke. Thank God I traded this moron.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

You will forever be known as a child abuse apologist. Good job dude.

It always easy to be sanctimonious.

 

[Neofight]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him. We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adria...-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

The station says Adrian sent the mother a text message saying the child hit his head on a carseat -- but when the mother questioned him further ... Peterson eventually admitted hitting the child.

So you find it reasonable to strike a child buckled into his car seat?

 

[ImTheScientist]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

You will forever be known as a child abuse apologist. Good job dude.

 

[Johnny Blood]

It's surreal and bizarre how many posters think citing Texas law and standards means anything to the rest of us. Yeah, uh---our pre-existing bemusement and horror on that topic is only intensified by this, and what the Vikings should do is not bound by Texas law.

 

[General Tso]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him. We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adria...-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

I'll remember that defense next time I throw someone out a window. "It wasn't me, Judge. The ground did it"

 

[chinawildman]

You asked the question, I answered. Enough with the equivocation and amateur psychology. You asked the question and posed the hypothetical, yet you don't hazard a simple answer. Striking back is always a choice.

Here's one maybe you'll take a jab at: how many times have you hit a woman?

How many licks are permissible for a 4 year old?

Stick or belt?

Blood or welt?

Of course it's a choice. Sometimes a justifiable one...

To answer your questions:

None

Depends what the kid did.

Hand.

N/A

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Terrorize a kid so bad they instinctively smash their head against the car seat bracing for the next blow. Four yo kids aren't dumb. That kind of panic is based on a pattern of abuse that leads to ape #### knee jerk responses. Poor kid.

 

[fourd]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

You will forever be known as a child abuse apologist. Good job dude.

As well as one to justify hitting a woman.

 

[BuzzCagney]

what would have happened if peterson was seen whipping his dog like that?

 

[fourd]

You asked the question, I answered. Enough with the equivocation and amateur psychology. You asked the question and posed the hypothetical, yet you don't hazard a simple answer. Striking back is always a choice.

Here's one maybe you'll take a jab at: how many times have you hit a woman?

How many licks are permissible for a 4 year old?

Stick or belt?

Blood or welt?

Of course it's a choice. Sometimes a justifiable one...

To answer your questions:

None

Depends what the kid did.

Hand.

N/A

It depends on what a 4 YEAR OLD did. Let's say he hit another kid. What will you have taught him by hitting him?

 

[chinawildman]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

didn't he admit to whoopin the kid?

He did in the original (and likely rushed) report, the above is from the update.

Another sterling example of feeding frenzy journalism for the ravenous masses... Beginning to think Neitzsche was right.

 

[Neofight]

You asked the question, I answered. Enough with the equivocation and amateur psychology. You asked the question and posed the hypothetical, yet you don't hazard a simple answer. Striking back is always a choice.

Here's one maybe you'll take a jab at: how many times have you hit a woman?

How many licks are permissible for a 4 year old?

Stick or belt?

Blood or welt?

Of course it's a choice. Sometimes a justifiable one...

To answer your questions:

None

Depends what the kid did.

Hand.

N/A

Let's say the kid cursed. Worth taking a poke at him?

 

[Avery]

Ugh. This thread is maddening, but I guess it's a reflection of our "immediate" society and news cycle.

Everyone is so sure exactly what happened because they saw it on TMZ or someone tweeted that he scared one of his children. People see what they want to see, and to put it in fantasy football terms, they suffer from confirmation bias. They discount what doesn't fit into their current paradigm, whatever that may be, and only pay attention to what they feel confirms it.

Personally, I don't know what happened with any of his children. I am willing to let the court system do what it does and let justice take it's course. I hope that the NFL follows suit and doesn't (over)react to mob mentality. If it comes out that he is guilty of abusing his children in a court of law, let the NFL levy their justice as well. If he is exonerated, I hope the NFL follows suit.

But back to this thread, when people are being called "child abuse apologists" and that gets , I think it's time to shut this thread down for this is a fantasy football message board and clearly the scope of this thread has left the intent of this board.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Nietzsche preached you can get hung by your own words? I'll be...

 

[djmich]

what would have happened if peterson was seen whipping his dog like that?

Good posting.Peterson is a POS, NFL deserves all the bad pub they get if they don't act swiftly.

 

[Dippa]

We could save a lot of money by shutting down the legal system and allowing the media, public, and the NFL to decide punishments. They seem to be up for the challenge.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adria...-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

Whew... Thank god I thought the little guy looked cute and all with the band aids on his forehead.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

what would have happened if peterson was seen whipping his dog like that?

Parents are legally able to treat their children worse than their dogs.

Crazy, isn't it?

How about working to change the laws, people.

 

[General Tso]

what would have happened if peterson was seen whipping his dog like that?

What a horrible, sad commentary on our society.I tell you what, the NFL does an outstanding job showing us the very worst parts of our society and culture. Can you imagine the Brits reading about all this the last few weeks? Good luck with that European expansion.

 

[Johnny Blood]

what would have happened if peterson was seen whipping his dog like that?

Parents are legally able to treat their children worse than their dogs.

Crazy, isn't it?

How about working to change the laws, people.

Hey it's legal to use the American flag as a diaper, why don't you do that at work tomorrow then come here and talk about how your employer should keep you on payroll.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

LOl @ shutting down this thread for being outside the intent of a fantasy football board. We should only be allowed to discuss stats, matchup, injuries, and handcuffs. What a bleak and phony world this would be.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

It's surreal and bizarre how many posters think citing Texas law and standards means anything to the rest of us. Yeah, uh---our pre-existing bemusement and horror on that topic is only intensified by this, and what the Vikings should do is not bound by Texas law.

Cut him and he plays for the Cowboys week 3.

 

[chinawildman]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him.

We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

You will forever be known as a child abuse apologist. Good job dude.

As well as one to justify hitting a woman.

Logic and reality gentlemen. Maybe try reading my posts with impartiality and you'll realize that I actually agree with you that what AP did was reprehensible. And yes, sometimes it's legal to hit a woman in this country. In fact I know several feminists that would consider your attitude of "never hit a woman" to be chauvinistic and outdated.

But I understand It's a slight inconvenience to your opinions so feel free to keep disregarding.

 

[Neofight]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him. We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adria...-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00

... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

didn't he admit to whoopin the kid?

He did in the original (and likely rushed) report, the above is from the update.

Another sterling example of feeding frenzy journalism for the ravenous masses... Beginning to think Neitzsche was right.

You've been quoting the media regularly, though not always completely.And Neitzsche was right: God is Dead. Except to AP, whom God told hitting kids is aight.

 

[bumpman]

5:05 PM PT -- Sources close to the investigation tell TMZ the reason the case went nowhere is because Adrian did NOT strike the boy in the forehead -- but instead the child accidentally hit his head on a carseat while Adrian was punishing him. We're also told the form of discipline was "not impermissible." Under Texas law parents are allowed to administer reasonable punishment.http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adrian-peterson-second-child-abuse-investigation-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/adria...-houston-minnesota-vikings-nfl/#ixzz3DR4TyH00 ... but of course you guys are gonna think what you wanna think anyway right?

The station says Adrian sent the mother a text message saying the child hit his head on a carseat -- but when the mother questioned him further ... Peterson eventually admitted hitting the child.

So you find it reasonable to strike a child buckled into his car seat?

So many people grabbing onto TMZ articles and jumping to conclusions. Where does it say the kid is buckled into the seat or that it is even his car seat? I wish people would take a step back and let the facts come out.

 

[Johnny Blood]

It's surreal and bizarre how many posters think citing Texas law and standards means anything to the rest of us. Yeah, uh---our pre-existing bemusement and horror on that topic is only intensified by this, and what the Vikings should do is not bound by Texas law.

Cut him and he plays for the Cowboys week 3.

Good, maybe he should be employed in a state allegedly more in line with his values.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

A better use of your time instead of #####ing about Peterson is to write your Representative and Senator and tell them you want corporal punishment made illegal.

 

[Johnny Blood]

AREA MAN POSTING ON FORUM TELLS OTHER POSTER THAT SOMETHING OTHER THAN POSTING WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF HIS TIME

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

AREA MAN POSTING ON FORUM TELLS OTHER POSTER THAT SOMETHING OTHER THAN POSTING WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF HIS TIME

I know I'm wasting my time. I just find it interesting when people have so much outrage but take it to a message board instead of doing something productive to make sure it doesn't happen again.

 

[chinawildman]

Nietzsche preached you can get hung by your own words? I'll be...

I see what you did there.

lynch mob in the house.

 

[93_Confirmed]

LOl @ shutting down this thread for being outside the intent of a fantasy football board. We should only be allowed to discuss stats, matchup, injuries, and handcuffs. What a bleak and phony world this would be.

That's what happened over at Rotoworld. Great community but man, the mods are a bunch of d!cks. I've enjoying things much more over here in the Shark Pool.