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Pick a Pair/Half Decade Album Draft - Bonus Rounds Thu & Fri - Pick three if you want (3 Viewers)
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Northern Voice
Footballguy
Round 12
Fouuntains of Wayne (1996)
Welcome Interstate Managers (2003)
Sky Full of Holes (2011)
Fouuntains of Wayne (1996)
Welcome Interstate Managers (2003)
Sky Full of Holes (2011)
rockaction
Footballguy
That's a strong, strong sprint to the finish, NV. I was going to pick With The Beatles because of this piece, actually, which I sort of referenced a while back and had krista thinking.
I don't think this is behind a paywall, and the first few paragraphs are ostensibly about The Beatles, which then turns into musings on a relationship and an awkward visit turned into a bit of sadness years later. But the first thrust of the writing is about the girl with the Beatles album. The UK version, too.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/02/17/with-the-beatles
I don't think this is behind a paywall, and the first few paragraphs are ostensibly about The Beatles, which then turns into musings on a relationship and an awkward visit turned into a bit of sadness years later. But the first thrust of the writing is about the girl with the Beatles album. The UK version, too.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/02/17/with-the-beatles
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krista4
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I need to listen them as I’ve heard so many people say how good their music is. I’ve just never been able to get past the idea of the band that recorded Stacy’s Mom being a serious music act.
Eephus
Footballguy
@Northern Voice You made too many picks. 
- Arcade Fire
- Prince
- Neil Young
- David Bowie
- Modest Mouse
- Def Leppard
- The Tragically Hip
- The Hold Steady
- Taylor Swift
- The Killers
- The Beatles
- The New Pornographers
- Fountains of Wayne
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Pretty good haul though right?@Northern Voice You made too many picks.
I left the Beatles off the spreadsheet to fit the threesomes in.
- Arcade Fire
- Prince
- Neil Young
- David Bowie
- Modest Mouse
- Def Leppard
- The Tragically Hip
- The Hold Steady
- Taylor Swift
- The Killers
- The Beatles
- The New Pornographers
- Fountains of Wayne
Doug B
Footballguy
I feel like a putz for ditching yet another music draft. I need to at least make picks for all ten original rounds.
Despite waiting until the very end ... I've only gotten sniped once. Someone tabbed Duran Duran. Otherwise, I'll roll with these four acts:
7.20: Tina Turner
Acid Queen (1975)
"Baby, Get It On"
"Let's Spend the Night Together"
"Acid Queen" <--- different from the version in the film Tommy
Private Dancer (1984)
"Private Dancer"
"Better Be Good to Me"
"Steel Claw"
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8.06: Sweet
Desolation Boulevard (1974)
"Ballroom Blitz"
"Fox on the Run"
Level Headed (1978)
"Love is Live Oxygen"
"California Nights"
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9.20: Journey
Infinity (1978)
"Feeling That Way/Anytime"
"Patiently"
"Wheel in the Sky"
Escape (1981)
"Stone in Love"
"Who's Cryin' Now?"
"Open Arms"
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10.06: The Bar-Kays
Soul Finger (1967)
"Soul Finger"
"With a Child's Heart"
Money Talks (1978)
"Holy Ghost" <---- #######' thunderous downbeat here
"Holy Ghost (Reborn)"
Despite waiting until the very end ... I've only gotten sniped once. Someone tabbed Duran Duran. Otherwise, I'll roll with these four acts:
7.20: Tina Turner
Acid Queen (1975)
"Baby, Get It On"
"Let's Spend the Night Together"
"Acid Queen" <--- different from the version in the film Tommy
Private Dancer (1984)
"Private Dancer"
"Better Be Good to Me"
"Steel Claw"
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8.06: Sweet
Desolation Boulevard (1974)
"Ballroom Blitz"
"Fox on the Run"
Level Headed (1978)
"Love is Live Oxygen"
"California Nights"
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9.20: Journey
Infinity (1978)
"Feeling That Way/Anytime"
"Patiently"
"Wheel in the Sky"
Escape (1981)
"Stone in Love"
"Who's Cryin' Now?"
"Open Arms"
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10.06: The Bar-Kays
Soul Finger (1967)
"Soul Finger"
"With a Child's Heart"
Money Talks (1978)
"Holy Ghost" <---- #######' thunderous downbeat here
"Holy Ghost (Reborn)"
Eephus
Footballguy
Here's my draft with no sloppy seconds
Stevie Wonder ----- Songs in the Key of Life ----- Innervisions
R.E.M. ----- Life's Rich Pageant ----- Automatic For the People
Bob Marley & The Wailers ----- Catch a Fire ----- Exodus
Arctic Monkeys ----- Whatever People Say I Am, I'm Not ----- AM
Johnny Cash ----- At Folsom Prison ----- American Recordings
Sade ----- Diamond Life ----- Lovers Rock
The Afghan Whigs ----- Gentlemen ----- 1965
Muddy Waters ----- Folk Singer ----- Hard Again
Los Lobos ----- How Will the Wolf Survive? ----- Kiko
Bonnie Raitt ----- Give It Up ----- Nick of TIme
Herbie Hancock ----- Maiden Voyage ----- Head Hunters ----- River: The Joni Letters
XTC ----- Drums and Wires ----- English Settlement ----- Skylarking
It's light on heavy rockin' stuff but I guess that reflects my currently listening habits.
At various times in the draft I fully expected to pick Al Green, Willie Nelson, Lucinda Williams, Joe Jackson and Emmylou Harris but never got around to them. That's in addition to the artists I draft a lot and consciously avoided this time (e.g. Talk Talk, Joan Armatrading, Mink DeVille and Prefab Sprout).
Stevie Wonder ----- Songs in the Key of Life ----- Innervisions
R.E.M. ----- Life's Rich Pageant ----- Automatic For the People
Bob Marley & The Wailers ----- Catch a Fire ----- Exodus
Arctic Monkeys ----- Whatever People Say I Am, I'm Not ----- AM
Johnny Cash ----- At Folsom Prison ----- American Recordings
Sade ----- Diamond Life ----- Lovers Rock
The Afghan Whigs ----- Gentlemen ----- 1965
Muddy Waters ----- Folk Singer ----- Hard Again
Los Lobos ----- How Will the Wolf Survive? ----- Kiko
Bonnie Raitt ----- Give It Up ----- Nick of TIme
Herbie Hancock ----- Maiden Voyage ----- Head Hunters ----- River: The Joni Letters
XTC ----- Drums and Wires ----- English Settlement ----- Skylarking
It's light on heavy rockin' stuff but I guess that reflects my currently listening habits.
At various times in the draft I fully expected to pick Al Green, Willie Nelson, Lucinda Williams, Joe Jackson and Emmylou Harris but never got around to them. That's in addition to the artists I draft a lot and consciously avoided this time (e.g. Talk Talk, Joan Armatrading, Mink DeVille and Prefab Sprout).
krista4
Footballguy
I was all set to take Willie (Red Headed Stranger and Phases and Stages) in Round 4. Then never got back to him.
Eephus
Footballguy
On the plus side, it did give me the opportunity to listen to a bunch of Willie's albums. The IRS Tapes are so good.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I hesitated and held off on them in both the initial ten rounds to grab my favourites - that's fine, @rockaction represented well, and I figured I'd wait and grab a 3 pack - but then got busy there too and @landrys hat scooped me.
Through it all, my favourite album, Kill The Moonlight never got picked
but shout out to you both for representing them well and I absolutely considered tripling down with Kill The Moonlight, Transference and Hot Thoughts.
In fact you know what.
Round 12 again.
Kill The Moonlight (2002)
Transference (2010)
Hot Thoughts (2017)
Through it all, my favourite album, Kill The Moonlight never got picked
but shout out to you both for representing them well and I absolutely considered tripling down with Kill The Moonlight, Transference and Hot Thoughts.In fact you know what.
Round 12 again.
Kill The Moonlight (2002)
Transference (2010)
Hot Thoughts (2017)
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Artists I considered but didn't draft included The Byrds, Midnight Oil, Screaming Trees, Mandrill, Joe Jackson, Ambrosia, Paul Weller, Bob Mould, Todd Rundgren, Poco, Teenage Fanclub, Indigo Girls, Ween and the legendary '70s R&B band I cryptically referred to earlier, Earth, Wind and Fire.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I like this idea. I was going to extend Round 12 because there was someone who didn't get picked yet that I thought might be. She was perfect for my late seventies/early eighties pick, but I went with the Ramones instead. I PM'd Pip with the pick a few days back, but here we go for the triad. Just for perusal's sake.
Diana Ross
Love Child - Diana Ross and The Supremes (1968)
This one is filed under Diana Ross in Spotify and marks the occasion of a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes move towards solo stardom, so I feel comfortable calling this a Diana effort. The Supremes come along, but top billing is Diana's. "Love Child" is the lead single from the album and the most played one on Spotify. It's one of a few I've heard. The album itself is a strong effort to these ears, and while it lacks the hits of other well-known Supremes albums, it doesn't ring too falsely, even for 1968, though it may have been a little bit behind the times with respect to social consciousness like most of Motown was.
Diana Ross (1976) - Diana Ross
Do you know where you're going to
Do you like the things that life is showing you
The Theme from Mahogany and the disco-inspired Love Hangover make the album here for me. This is a soul album for the most part, though, and not too heavy on the disco. The songs are probably the weakest of the three and it is buoyed by the hits.
Diana (1980) - Diana Ross
This one has the bangers I'm looking for. "I'm Coming Out" and "Upside Down," written IIRC by the fellows in CHIC make this one a pure disco effort just as disco was passing into oblivion. But these two songs were monster hits and kept disco afloat just a bit, and also made Diana a favorite of drag queens, the transgendered, and plain old gay or bisexual people everywhere at the time. Lest anyone think I'm making too big a deal of that, Nile Rodgers got the inspiration for "I'm Coming Out" in the bathroom of a transgender bar in NYC, according to the New York Post in a recent profile.
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Northern Voice
Footballguy
I think with the new draft starting early this week, this thread is going to fade away pretty quickly, do no harm in highlighting some more great combos.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
This might be off the map on a couple accounts but @Eephus wanted some later period albums from bands and I love this 2020 release... and the two early albums fall in the same 5 years and I genuinely prefer this one - obviously Is This It is really great too.
Round 12 again
The Strokes
Room on Fire (2003)
Meet Me in The Bathroom
12:51
The New Abnormal (2020)
The Adults Are Talking
Brooklyn Bridge to Chorus
Round 12 again
The Strokes
Room on Fire (2003)
Meet Me in The Bathroom
12:51
The New Abnormal (2020)
The Adults Are Talking
Brooklyn Bridge to Chorus
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Diana Ross is probably my least-favorite A List vocalist. Her voice is thin & tinny, even when she's singing full-throated, and she had less soul than Richard Nixon. The other Supremes - Mary Wilson and (especially) Florence Ballard - had much stronger voices. I think she's a narcissistic airhead (who somehow dated Gene Simmons, so what the hell do I know?). But Berry Gordy was smitten with Diana and he surrounded her with some of the world's greatest art. And, when done right ("You Keep Me Hanging On", "Love Child", "Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart", "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me"), her voice was used to great effect. Her upper register, when pushed by the band, could be thrilling.
As for this album, it's really good. It's a Chic record with Ross as the singer (same with Sister Sledge's records). Diana doesn't do anything here that's transcendent , but Nile Rodgers got her to ride the grooves like a cowboy busting a bronco. The intro to "I'm Coming Out" is one of my favorites in all of pop music.
And now is the time for my semi-annual rant about how underrated & misunderstood Chic is.
They got labeled as "disco" because that's what we do - try to shove everything into compartments. I guess because they were black and used strings sometimes? Anyway, to me, they were much more in line with the New Wave bands like the Cars & Blondie - which makes a kind of sense, since the guys in Chic were playing punkish heavy metal before they hit big - than they were with acts like Cerrone or Silver Convention.
Chic's music was minimalist in the extreme. Scratch guitar, thundering drums, monotone vocals, with the bass the only thing providing melody - that's about it. Rodgers would add strings, but they weren't baroque - they slashed like a switchblade, a hit-and-run attack. The lyrics he wrote weren't all that clever, though they always seemed really cynical to me - which could get tiring if you care about messages in your music (I mostly don't). The playing on Chic's songs are amazing.
Thompson's metalloid drumming, Rodgers laying down Napalm cover with his guitar, scything strings, on-the-beat vocals that sound like drums. But Bernard Edwards was the real star. If he's not the most influential bass player of the last 1/4 of the 20th century (& beyond), he's in the top 2 or 3. When not getting his licks straight ripped off
cough: Queen :cough
, he was imitated so much that folks had to use OTHER instruments just to mask their thievery ("When Doves Cry").For better or worse, I'd estimate that about 25% of what we think of as "80s music" is because of Chic (skinny tie bands, unemotive vocals, overproduced minimalism). Which also makes sense since Rodgers produced about 9 million records for other popular acts during the decade.
Chic is one of the few great bands I can think of that got less ornate as they went on. In the end, it was all rhythm for Rodgers. Just like the punks and hip-hoppers.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
@rockaction digging into the playlist and first early impressions are
- I need to listen to more Everly Brothers, I dug every song from them
- I am jealous of the EB and S+G picks, I couldn't find anything with such nice harmonies and that's miss by me
- The cosmic shift from the EB to Daft Punk is pretty intense, woke me right up
- Goes without saying but The VU rule. How excited are you for the big doc coming out on them?
- I need to listen to more Everly Brothers, I dug every song from them
- I am jealous of the EB and S+G picks, I couldn't find anything with such nice harmonies and that's miss by me
- The cosmic shift from the EB to Daft Punk is pretty intense, woke me right up
- Goes without saying but The VU rule. How excited are you for the big doc coming out on them?
rockaction
Footballguy
Diana Ross is probably my least-favorite A List vocalist. Her voice is thin & tinny, even when she's singing full-throated, and she had less soul than Richard Nixon. The other Supremes - Mary Wilson and (especially) Florence Ballard - had much stronger voices. I think she's a narcissistic airhead (who somehow dated Gene Simmons, so what the hell do I know?). But Berry Gordy was smitten with Diana and he surrounded her with some of the world's greatest art. And, when done right ("You Keep Me Hanging On", "Love Child", "Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart", "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me"), her voice was used to great effect. Her upper register, when pushed by the band, could be thrilling.
As for this album, it's really good. It's a Chic record with Ross as the singer (same with Sister Sledge's records). Diana doesn't do anything here that's transcendent , but Nile Rodgers got her to ride the grooves like a cowboy busting a bronco. The intro to "I'm Coming Out" is one of my favorites in all of pop music.
And now is the time for my semi-annual rant about how underrated & misunderstood Chic is.
They got labeled as "disco" because that's what we do - try to shove everything into compartments. I guess because they were black and used strings sometimes? Anyway, to me, they were much more in line with the New Wave bands like the Cars & Blondie - which makes a kind of sense, since the guys in Chic were playing punkish heavy metal before they hit big - than they were with acts like Cerrone or Silver Convention.
Chic's music was minimalist in the extreme. Scratch guitar, thundering drums, monotone vocals, with the bass the only thing providing melody - that's about it. Rodgers would add strings, but they weren't baroque - they slashed like a switchblade, a hit-and-run attack. The lyrics he wrote weren't all that clever, though they always seemed really cynical to me - which could get tiring if you care about messages in your music (I mostly don't). The playing on Chic's songs are amazing.
Thompson's metalloid drumming, Rodgers laying down Napalm cover with his guitar, scything strings, on-the-beat vocals that sound like drums. But Bernard Edwards was the real star. If he's not the most influential bass player of the last 1/4 of the 20th century (& beyond), he's in the top 2 or 3. When not getting his licks straight ripped off
For better or worse, I'd estimate that about 25% of what we think of as "80s music" is because of Chic (skinny tie bands, unemotive vocals, overproduced minimalism). Which also makes sense since Rodgers produced about 9 million records for other popular acts during the decade.
Chic is one of the few great bands I can think of that got less ornate as they went on. In the end, it was all rhythm for Rodgers. Just like the punks and hip-hoppers.
Well, I'm happy to have you comment. I looked at Chic for records because I think so highly of your thoughts of them. I gave them a listen, and will repeat that.
I kind of agree about Diana -- I'm not going to lionize her, but I'm less about the register and pitch than the act. I'm not a huge fan of people that step out as solo artists from a former popular group, though I understand the impulse. I'd go into a long thing about the diva-esque mannerisms and the musical material suffering as a result when people go for that, but I'll save that for a rainy day.
But the songs that Nile Rodgers wrote, mixed with the Supremes, mixed with the two songs from Diana Ross in '76 put this squarely in contention (note it fell out of the rounds) for my little corner of the draft. The love for certain aspects of this pick with me is undeniable, and I thought it brought something my other artists didn't have to the game.
I think I'm also a modern consumer unlike somebody that may have appreciated this career arc in the seventies. While I grew up with Hartford radio, I grew up with a station that played groups like the Spinners, Diana Ross, et. al, and disco. It was not afraid of it. It was a good station as far as pop stations go, and I really almost won a thousand dollar prize once until they heard my voice, figured out I was six years old, and said I was the ninth instead of tenth caller or some lame excuse a child will never forget.
But back to the station. It played the Theme from Mahogany, Upside Down, and I'm Coming Out, and I remember all those songs. That said, I really remember Notorious B.I.G. and Puff Daddy and Ma$e sampling it to great effect, and the Nile Rodgers hook becomes the hook of a lifetime on that record. So I can relate to what you're talking about when you're talking about Chic. So many rappers sample or have sampled Chic. It's absolutely perfect music to sample.
Anyway, those are my quick thoughts to yours. Thanks for commenting.
rockaction
Footballguy
It's 5:10 or so in the morning and I've gotten two great comments. Let's hope the day proceeds apace. I'm glad you're digging the early Simon and Garfunkel and that you think you need to listen to more Everly Brothers.
Honestly, the Everly Brothers are a band of my twenties. I've written before that I used to have a radio show. It was all procured pop-punk, garage punk, and music culled from gas station cassettes from the fifties and sixties. Eventually, these cassettes started making the show -- the people tuning in for the punk loved it, so these fifties and sixties acts started getting all the ears that were the squeaky wheels. You have to understand the jam band scene (PIK can attest to this, maybe) had so thoroughly dominated the fraternity and social scene of the upper middle class in 1995-96 that almost every student-run radio show played these bands and the station I was at was desperate for any variety among the student shows.
Enter me. So every so often, I would save up money that I didn't have, and I would go to Borders or one of the big boxes (we had no good record stores by me -- all my music had been purchased over a decade during the summers) and get a compilation. Most times it would be a time period with a bunch of artists and the original recordings thereof, but one of the compilations I wound up getting was the Everlys. Just the Everlys. It was a Rhino comp, cost about $18.98 or something like that, and it, suffice it to say, was the jewel of that collection. It was so damn good. So I would play it and get calls about the music and people and I just loved it. I especially remember the songs "Take A Message To Mary" and "I'm Here To Get My Baby Out Of Jail" as the two non-hits that absolutely stunned, slayed me emotionally and musically. They opened up a world of music I had yet to discover and would incorporate into my show -- Americana, rockabilly, and traditional songs. I played those on Sunday from 1-3 A.M., and I can't imagine what the two people who were listening thought while hearing "Take A Message To Mary" on a freezing Hamilton, NY night in February.
Enter her. She was my ex-girlfriend. I'm not going to go into too much bad stuff, because there was good. But her father had been one of the brother's eye doctors. When you were his patient, good things weren't happening because he was one of the top eye doctors in Nashville - I believe he was a surgeon -- but she relayed the story to me about him having had one of the Everlys as a patient. Upon hearing this, I think I said something stupid like have your father tell him I love the Everlys. "___," she said, not cruelly like it sounds, but sort of in a different way, "everybody likes the Everlys." That wasn't a reprimand, believe me, because the way she said it was kind. What she sort of meant was "everybody except for the people here and in our age group love them" because I think she saw the "I know" on my face and explained. She had been a Southerner in a Northern place so long that part of her culture was just ignored and the other part reviled, frankly. Must have been tough to have been far from home and told in many subtle ways that home sucks.
But that's all a way of saying this. You're certainly not alone in loving the Everly Brothers's sound. I can remember, as a kid basically (I was a kid, let's face it) getting that compilation and Del Shannon's Rhino comp and spending money I didn't have and loving them both.
So go the Everlys. Glad you enjoyed their songs. I did once too, in discovery.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, that'll do that. I was worried about getting great records, not so much BPM. Heh.
I am very excited for the big documentary. I'm not that good a VU historian, as Eephus could attest, so I'll be finding out new stuff along with everybody else. What I have learned I've learned piecemeal, really, from other sources. Should be interesting.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Round 12
Tomorrow The Green Grass - The Jayhawks (1995)
Rainy Day Music - The Jayhawks (2003)
Xoxo - The Jayhawks (2020)
Blue
I'd Run Away
All The Right Reasons
Don't Let The World Get In Your Way
This Forgotten Town
Living In A Bubble
Tomorrow The Green Grass - The Jayhawks (1995)
Rainy Day Music - The Jayhawks (2003)
Xoxo - The Jayhawks (2020)
Blue
I'd Run Away
All The Right Reasons
Don't Let The World Get In Your Way
This Forgotten Town
Living In A Bubble
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Diana's solo records are nothing if not lush and beautiful - they still sound good today (especially "Theme From Mahogany"). And she's a good singer; just not among my favorites. She's more like an actor fitting herself into songs - I never really believe she means what she sings. That's not all her fault, though. Berry Gordy was Viktor Frankenstein and he built his perfect woman/singer/performer. I think he thought he'd have a multimedia Barbra Streisand-like career for Ross.
I was 14 when the Porn Trifecta of 1976's Ross' "Love Hangover", Andrea True's "More, More, More", and Donna Summer's "Love To Love You" happened. Everyone knew True's record was a joke, and I thought Summer's was too. Turned out, she was the best singer by far of the 3.
rockaction
Footballguy
I half-expected to see Love Battery here because of Between The Eyes and Dayglo straddling the '89/'91-2 line perfectly. I almost picked Mudhoney's Mudhoney and Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge for the '89/'91 grunge split. It just didn't make the cut, but it was one of the last ones on the cutting room floor.
rockaction
Footballguy
I tried to get Summer into the mix for late '70s early '80s because her '70s material is so strong, in my estimation, but I didn't like her '80s material enough. The one with Musical Youth came closest to being selected.
I really do like Donna Summer's disco hits. They're kind of awesome.
I picked Daft Punk, which is not so far removed from all of that. Their song "Giorgio by Moroder," which made my playlist, is one of the most brilliant songs I've ever heard, IMO. In it, they take a dinner interview with Giorgio Moroder, Teutonic accent and all, and they begin to swell music behind him. Once they hit the words, "...I know the synthesizer...Why don't I use the synthesizer, which is the sound of the future, and I...didn't have any idea what to do, but I knew I needed a click, so we put the click on the twenty-fourth track, which was then synced to the Moog modular..." and Daft Punk begins the four-on-the-floor click that Moroder did to innovate disco and house music. The song goes into seventies disco and then, by the end, explodes into a heavily processed twentieth century funk. I can't urge listening to it enough. It deconstructs the creative impulse of Moroder and his history, mixes that with the interpolation of themselves (Daft Punk) having a critic-as-artist function within the song, and creates something entirely new, something entirely danceable. It's really worth a listen if you're in an ambient/disco mood.
Crazy stuff.
Here it is, whenever you want, if you choose to do so
https://youtu.be/zhl-Cs1-sG4
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rockaction
Footballguy
By the way, here's how out of touch with the kids I am.
So...you all know that I like to buy rock shirts. Like, a lot of them. It's a weakness. Anyway, about two years ago I got a Daft Punk shirt from Daft Punk. I had seen it on their website and ordered it. The Homework lettering. Very cool, right? Well, the shirt came and didn't fit. It was a Hanes shirt (lousy brand, but used by Supreme so I figured that's how the kids are wearing them) and it was too big in the arms and body. XL for me, of course. So I got an RMA (an acronym that stands for return merchandise authorization) and I returned it. Again, no big deal right? Well, they hadn't seemed very interested in getting me the RMA or getting the shirt returned. Indeed, they never credited it to me on my credit card statement. I was a little irritated with that, but I figure they deal with so much and I returned a perfectly good shirt, so caveat emptor.
Well, imagine my irritation when I later found this out. THOSE SHIRTS SELL FOR THREE HUNDRED TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE SECOND-HAND MARKET, THOUSANDS IF UNWORN! I had beaten the bots somehow, got a shirt on what must have been the first day, and then returned it. They must have been utterly gobsmacked and couldn't deal with the return request appropriately because they never dealt with returns!
Your rockaction is so clueless he hadn't checked reddit, the pop-up stores, anything. I just thought I got an electronica shirt.
That's a major, major ####### oops on my part. Argh.
Okay, trials and tribulations of the First World over. I really just want the shirt back.
eta* In the end, it might not be thousands for an unworn shirt, but used ones are for sale on eBay for hundreds and packaged ones for a thousand. Perhaps there's a less freaky secondary market I'm missing, but it seems that way. One used shirt that I was watching sold for like two-fifty. It was ratty, frankly.
Argh. I can't believe I lucked upon a market and returned the thing. Too funny.
So...you all know that I like to buy rock shirts. Like, a lot of them. It's a weakness. Anyway, about two years ago I got a Daft Punk shirt from Daft Punk. I had seen it on their website and ordered it. The Homework lettering. Very cool, right? Well, the shirt came and didn't fit. It was a Hanes shirt (lousy brand, but used by Supreme so I figured that's how the kids are wearing them) and it was too big in the arms and body. XL for me, of course. So I got an RMA (an acronym that stands for return merchandise authorization) and I returned it. Again, no big deal right? Well, they hadn't seemed very interested in getting me the RMA or getting the shirt returned. Indeed, they never credited it to me on my credit card statement. I was a little irritated with that, but I figure they deal with so much and I returned a perfectly good shirt, so caveat emptor.
Well, imagine my irritation when I later found this out. THOSE SHIRTS SELL FOR THREE HUNDRED TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE SECOND-HAND MARKET, THOUSANDS IF UNWORN! I had beaten the bots somehow, got a shirt on what must have been the first day, and then returned it. They must have been utterly gobsmacked and couldn't deal with the return request appropriately because they never dealt with returns!
Your rockaction is so clueless he hadn't checked reddit, the pop-up stores, anything. I just thought I got an electronica shirt.
That's a major, major ####### oops on my part. Argh.
Okay, trials and tribulations of the First World over. I really just want the shirt back.
eta* In the end, it might not be thousands for an unworn shirt, but used ones are for sale on eBay for hundreds and packaged ones for a thousand. Perhaps there's a less freaky secondary market I'm missing, but it seems that way. One used shirt that I was watching sold for like two-fifty. It was ratty, frankly.
Argh. I can't believe I lucked upon a market and returned the thing. Too funny.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
The Between the Eyes single came out in '89, but the album was '91. Dayglo was '92.
They had two albums in the 95-99 frame but they weren't as good as the first three.
rockaction
Footballguy
Ohhh...I see. Just by way of conversation. But that sounds right. Between The Eyes is listed as '92 on Spotify, even. On Google, a quick search lists '89, but I'm going with your dates. They sound right and my memory serves it that way, also. I had had "Between The Eyes" on a Sub Pop comp as a senior in high school, so I assumed it was before then, but the proper album I had late as a PG.
A quick check of Sub Pop and they list both Dayglo and Between The Eyes as 1992 releases. Jan. 1. Both of them. Weird. I'm going with your date, as you have a knack for this stuff and my memory tells me you're correct.
Cool beans. I wonder what Sub Pop did. One is listed as SP69, the other SP131 or so. Sounds like an album got shelved or something.
simey
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I do too, simey. I'm not sure about the technicalities of her voice is all. I wouldn't have really considered these if I didn't like her Supremes and solo stuff, either -- this was definitely a "I really like these" albums. But you're probably attuned to that.
I thought there would be good discussion about them if I presented them as viable entries. I like hearing what you guys think about what I'm listening to. I seriously have "Love Hangover" in my head right now. Love the beginning and the turn into disco. But I know you like disco, too, so...
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I may give these a whirl later this morning. I love what I know of the Jayhawks (mostly 'Blue') but have never done a deeper dive.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’ve always been - and still am - an alt-country guy so they’ve been in my rotation for a long while. I actually liked ending this draft being able to spread albums out from the mid nineties to 2020. That latest album is very good - you’d like it I think because there’s a strong pop element in it as well.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
My playlist is up to date also.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I would have liked to take Sloan. I draft them a lot and I already went pretty heavy on power pop but they've really been a model of consistency through their career but their mid-late career Never Hear The End Of It, is exceptional IMO. I would have gone
Twice Removed (1994)
One Chord to Another (1996)
Never Hear The End Of It (2006)
Twice Removed (1994)
One Chord to Another (1996)
Never Hear The End Of It (2006)
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I would guess the album had a limited pressing and then was reissued after Dayglo came out. I got Dayglo first and then found Between the Eyes shortly thereafter.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I forgot to mention them too. Plenty of '70s stuff to work with (Abandoned Luncheonette is the best) plus Voices and Private Eyes.
simey
Footballguy
I know you were responding to Uruk regarding her voice. I do love disco. "Love Hangover" starts out slow and sexy, and then glides right into disco. In the Genrepalooza thread, Studio 54 is in my top 5 of the playlists. Diana has never had a strong voice like Donna Summer, but it's nice and distinct. She has a lot of charisma too. Do you remember her concert in Central Park in the early 80s during the rain storm?Yeah, I do too, simey. I'm not sure about the technicalities of her voice is all. I wouldn't have really considered these if I didn't like her Supremes and solo stuff, either -- this was definitely a "I really like these" albums. But you're probably attuned to that.
I thought there would be good discussion about them if I presented them as viable entries. I like hearing what you guys think about what I'm listening to. I seriously have "Love Hangover" in my head right now. Love the beginning and the turn into disco. But I know you like disco, too, so...
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I didn't get a chance to draft John Denver, Dolly Parton, ELP, ELO, EIEIO, or BÖC.
Donna Summer was also on my list.
Donna Summer was also on my list.
rockaction
Footballguy
I honestly don't remember either having a Central Park album, but I don't doubt it. I just can't remember it. I know there's one by Donna Summer on Spotify that looks like it's live and raining, but it's in Costa Mesa, CA. Diana, on the other hand, draws sort of a blank for me. I was really young even for Diana in 1980. I wouldn't have followed her career but for the hits. I was still listening to pop radio at that age (about six or seven at that time).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’m not sure if an album was released but I think the concert was broadcast on HBO.
simey
Footballguy
It was televised on a cable station, and a huge storm came through. There were hundreds of thousands of people there. She was told to get off the stage, and she wouldn't. She sang for over thirty minutes in a torrential downpour with 50 mph winds. They finally made her get off the stage when the lightning got bad. It was a benefit concert, and she came back the next day to perform the concert again. It's one of the most legendary concerts due to the circumstances, and her determination that the show must go on.
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