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Pick a Pair/Half Decade Album Draft - Bonus Rounds Thu & Fri - Pick three if you want (1 Viewer)

Listening to an album I'm considering for tomorrow and I forgot that one of its songs has a whistling solo. (That won't be one of the ones I spotlight if I pick it.)

 
Listening to an album I'm considering for tomorrow and I forgot that one of its songs has a whistling solo. (That won't be one of the ones I spotlight if I pick it.)
Sittin' in the mornin' sun
I'll be sittin' when the evenin' comes
Watching the ships roll in
Then I watch 'em roll away again, yeah…

 
Awesome!  I have a teenage son named Luke for the same reason. I made him watch all the movies when he was young, but he hasn’t watched any since. 


We have a 25 year old son named Neil because I knew it would impress Pip's Invitation some day.

I've never made him watch Human Highway.

 
So I spent a couple days without picking pondering how to finish up here. The idea was to hit every half in 7 rds. I screwed that up. I also didn't want to pick something already chosen. I've managed that. I can hit every half in 8 rds. Early 60s early 70s are vacant. Plenty of acceptable choices tag both, but taking someone already taken is a must and moreso for me it would be... er... dishonest, disappointing... something. Not what I play these days. So....

Round 8

Manchester Orchestra 

A Black Mile to the Surface (2017)

The Million Masks of God (2021)

Andy Hull is a hellofa songwriter. Dabbles in emo checking all rockaction's #### boxes. But I think better than it's ever been done. I wanted to paste an explanation of Million Masks' concept by Andy, but I can't find it. Basically it is one song. These guys go from intimate minimalistic chill to massive wall of jammy sound so seamlessly so often, I just can't get enough. Also, kind of pleases to double up on the most current halves instead of that old worn-out played analog dated music from the 70s. :)

 
Just a big ol' page of hidden posts for me.  :usetheignorefeature:
I have DJax on ignore, after he announced he was putting me on ignore for calling him a racist. For the record I never did call him one but I did imply it because, well, he is one. Seemed like a good opportunity to get rid of his nonsensical posts by reciprocating.

I will say it’s glorious not to have to read his 1,000 word posts of pure drivel.

Gecko I just scroll past - but like I said he’s just schtick and that account gets passed around. He’s not real.

 
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We have a 25 year old son named Neil because I knew it would impress Pip's Invitation some day.

I've never made him watch Human Highway.
I'VE never watched Human Highway!

Neil as filmmaker <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Neil as musician

 
So I spent a couple days without picking pondering how to finish up here. The idea was to hit every half in 7 rds. I screwed that up. I also didn't want to pick something already chosen. I've managed that. I can hit every half in 8 rds. Early 60s early 70s are vacant. Plenty of acceptable choices tag both, but taking someone already taken is a must and moreso for me it would be... er... dishonest, disappointing... something. Not what I play these days. So....

Round 8

Manchester Orchestra 

A Black Mile to the Surface (2017)

The Million Masks of God (2021)

Andy Hull is a hellofa songwriter. Dabbles in emo checking all rockaction's #### boxes. But I think better than it's ever been done. I wanted to paste an explanation of Million Masks' concept by Andy, but I can't find it. Basically it is one song. These guys go from intimate minimalistic chill to massive wall of jammy sound so seamlessly so often, I just can't get enough. Also, kind of pleases to double up on the most current halves instead of that old worn-out played analog dated music from the 70s. :)
Sit back, pop the cork on a beverage, and let me tell you about me and emo...

Love the stuff for some reason. It's at least sincere. I think I hate irony and social observation and existential loathing more. Maybe I need to refine my position? Ah well, these are great picks. I like this band, and thought I'd go with their earlier stuff, you're trying to cover the decades and you're in good company with NV. 

 
I never thought I'd feel like picking a late seventies album following nerd rules would be unpalatable, but here we are...

Thinking of going aughts heavy again. Nerd points are for suckaz. 

 
It doesn't show the courtship parts with the sexy time talk and activities.  It's all about context.
I gave this some thought last night. Does this mean that the show is tawdry, really? It seemed like a Victorian period piece. Has Queen Victoria been sullied??

Inquiring minds...

 
Round 10

Indigo Girls 

Indigo Girls (1989)

”Closer to Fine”

”Land of Canaan”

Nomads Indians Saints 

“Hammer and a Nail”

”Watershed” 

Indigo Girls is my favorite band of the last 3 decades and these early albums are terrific, chalk full of folky goodness. Both Emily Saliers and Amy Ray are excellent songwriters but if pressed I prefer Emily. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I have DJax on ignore, after he announced he was putting me on ignore for calling him a racist. For the record I never did call him one but I did imply it because, well, he is one. Seemed like a good opportunity to get rid of his nonsensical posts by reciprocating.

I will say it’s glorious not to have to read his 1,000 word posts of pure drivel.

Gecko I just scroll past - but like I said he’s just schtick and that account gets passed around. He’s not real.
fwiw about djax... I don't know what he said that made you think he's racist, but bleh. otherwise- he's a self-professed on the spectrum dude. struggles with a lot of stuff, but has been pretty open about it in other places (started a thread, and is a regular soccer poster). unnecessarily verbose? yes. misses cues and the point at times? yes. prone to some hostility/anger as a result at times? yes. but even with all of that- which I ascribe to his autism/asbergers (I never remembered which)- he can be a genuinely decent guy...especially when keeping in mind the spectrum component. other than the Milan thing. he's the worst there. but I get that most people don't know or care or have the patience to sift through that stuff on a pop-in and get some fun message board.

eta: gg is a perma-skip for me. the account used to be somewhat entertaining at its origin but a long time ago turned into... dunno. not.

 
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fwiw about djax... I don't know what he said that made you think he's racist, but bleh. otherwise- he's a self-professed on the spectrum dude. struggles with a lot of stuff, but has been pretty open about it in other places (started a thread, and is a regular soccer poster). unnecessarily verbose? yes. misses cues and the point at times? yes. prone to some hostility/anger as a result at times? yes. but even with all of that- which I ascribe to his autism/asbergers (I never remembered which)- he can be a genuinely decent guy...especially when keeping in mind the spectrum component. other than the Milan thing. he's the worst there. but I get that most people don't know or care or have the patience to sift through that stuff on a pop-in and get some fun message board.

eta: gg is a perma-skip for me. the account used to be somewhat entertaining at its origin but a long time ago turned into... dunno. not.
DIRECT HEADLINE, followed by YouTube link, followed by sexist rant... 

 
fwiw about djax... I don't know what he said that made you think he's racist, but bleh. otherwise- he's a self-professed on the spectrum dude. struggles with a lot of stuff, but has been pretty open about it in other places (started a thread, and is a regular soccer poster). unnecessarily verbose? yes. misses cues and the point at times? yes. prone to some hostility/anger as a result at times? yes. but even with all of that- which I ascribe to his autism/asbergers (I never remembered which)- he can be a genuinely decent guy...especially when keeping in mind the spectrum component. other than the Milan thing. he's the worst there. but I get that most people don't know or care or have the patience to sift through that stuff on a pop-in and get some fun message board.
I know about his background - and I'm not going to go completely into the whole "racism" aspect again, but truth be told I didn't call him a racist - I just made an observation about a pattern I noticed where he constantly called black QBs "thugs" and that they weren't "capable for the job", while blatantly making up stuff about Kaepernick, Cam Newton and Jalen Hurst among many other "similar" QBs. When he was called out, by others, on those stories, he would claim he has "sources" that told him these things were true, even though none of these transgressions were ever reported anywhere else but by DJax. I doubt he has any sources in the NFL - he works at Shop Rite (and I don't say that in a disparaging way).

When I brought up this pattern (admittedly I should have just let it go and ignored it), he then made up some BS story that I've followed him around on these boards constantly, making claims that he was a racist, and how he called me out on it several times and I "refused to provide evidence" - which was all made up non-sense that never happened. That was the one time I brought it up. I did apologize to him, but he said he did not accept since I was doing this for years (which once again is a lie) and he would put me on ignore - which as far as I know, no one has done that with me. Generally I am not a trouble maker here.

Sorry but I know a few people on the Spectrum - and that doesn't give them the right to make stuff up.

I will say, I don't think he's a bad guy, I think he is unaware to some extent as to what he is saying

With all that said, not having to read his wall of texts isn't any big loss imo.

 
zamboni said:
Taylor Swift is getting more run here than D'Andre Swift got against the Packers.


I had wanted Folklore - but figured I would grab Evermore now.  Not a fan of her early stuff, but I liked both 2020 covid albums.   :shrug:

 
My actual quote in response to him calling Jalen Hurst a [coward] for transferring from Alabama, was: "I know you don't  likes "certain types" of QBs, but..."

I did admit that there was surely an implication there - but I surely never followed him around the boards claiming he was a racist (in fact I generally skip his posts). That was it.

 
zamboni said:
Taylor Swift is getting more run here than D'Andre Swift got against the Packers.


I had wanted Folklore - but figured I would grab Evermore now.  Not a fan of her early stuff, but I liked both 2020 covid albums.   :shrug:
Just joshing - I have nothing against her and admittedly know little of her material. That's largely because I have sons rather than daughters.

 
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I don't have either on ignore - I am somewhat aware of Djax' idiosyncrasies, and read his posts with that in mind.

GG - he amuses me.  Like, I frequently laugh out loud at his posts.  Then I feel bad for him.   :shrug:

 
Man, I was trying to avoid the political drama in here....

Also, I'm blown away with the Taylor Swift selections by what I assume are middle aged dudes??  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  My daughter and her friends are into her.  I just don't know any adult male who actively listens to her.

 
Just joshing - I have nothing against her and admittedly know little of material. That's largely because I have sons rather than daughters.


Kind of funny - I do have two teenage girls, and they have been to see Swift in concert, but they are pretty much over that phase.  I tried to get them to listen to the 2020 albums - no dice.

I think she is a very talented songwriter/singer, who appears to have had a lot of boyfriend issues over the years...but the 2020 albums come across as a more mature artist.

 
My actual quote in response to him calling Jalen Hurst a [coward] for transferring from Alabama, was: "I know you don't  likes "certain types" of QBs, but..."

I did admit that there was surely an implication there - but I surely never followed him around the boards claiming he was a racist (in fact I generally skip his posts). That was it.
you monster.

 
Man, I was trying to avoid the political drama in here....

Also, I'm blown away with the Taylor Swift selections by what I assume are middle aged dudes??  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  My daughter and her friends are into her.  I just don't know any adult male who actively listens to her.
I am not a fab of hers - and I'm probably past middle age - but folklore is a fantastic album and was one of the best ones from 2020. It's more of an indie rock record than here earlier stuff.

 
Kind of funny - I do have two teenage girls, and they have been to see Swift in concert, but they are pretty much over that phase.  I tried to get them to listen to the 2020 albums - no dice.

I think she is a very talented songwriter/singer, who appears to have had a lot of boyfriend issues over the years...but the 2020 albums come across as a more mature artist.
are those the ones produced by the National guy(s)? definitely sound more grown up with less emphasis on the catchy hook. 

but agree- that girl is insanely talented. have to say I don't really go for the music, but doesn't keep me from respecting the hell out of her. she's not just some teeny-bob pop creation that the previous poster seems to want her to be.

 
Man, I was trying to avoid the political drama in here....

Also, I'm blown away with the Taylor Swift selections by what I assume are middle aged dudes??  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  My daughter and her friends are into her.  I just don't know any adult male who actively listens to her.
I was going to post picks early just to get away from it. Give people something to talk about. I don't think Eephus will mind if I post them next. Some interesting stuff to chew on if you're familiar with the story. 

As far as T. Swift goes, our tastes run varied and deep, and generally way away from demographics or pigeonholing. 

 
I took T. Swift in a draft in 2016, @wazoo11 commented on it, and I thought he was making fun of me so I went full nuclear on him. Little did I know he listens to every female singer/songwriter that comes along. Unless he's got high-level schtick going, and does it to troll us, which is possible. He used to call himself an incel and speak MRA-esque language and stuff. 

So who knows. 

But if he really is into it, whoops. Sorry wazoo11. 

 
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Just to get this rolling, I was tempted to take an artist who I won't name, but I'm staying in my comfort zone here because I think the albums fit my playlist. Sorry to someone who could easily be a three half-decade pick tomorrow. 

10.23

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I'm surprised he did that. Doesn't he know he's fourteen minutes early? 

No you're not surprised. Let's get away from the political if people want. 

From one of the most celebrated albums in punk history to one of the most reviled, The Ramones run the gamut with these two, both of which I happen to love, much to the chagrin of moralists, band purists, and general rock critics everywhere. 

The Ramones - The Ramones (1976)

There's not much to say about this album that hasn't already been said. You've heard it, even if you never sat down to listen to it. It's in the cultural ether, for sure. Dealing with the intensity of music as metaphor for a war zone ("The Blitzkrieg Bop"), the burgeoning punk rock scene ("Judy Is A Punk"), the virtues of inhalants ("Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue"), to the depths of desperation culminating in male prostitution ("53rd & 3rd") the Ramones's Ramones is fourteen tracks of schlocky shock, shocking no more to modern sensibilities because they, as artists and creators, shaped those very sensibilities. "Beat On The Brat," a light-hearted look at bullying, is probably the only shocker still left here. There's a dulled sense of propriety, a dulled sense of formality, a dulled sense of appropriateness that shook the cultural zeitgeist with the introduction of this music to modern sensibilities. And it's the most sinister of things. It's bubblegum music. Basic, sped-up, three chord amphetamine #### set to a bizarre familial backdrop, powerful imagery, and subject matter that is almost passively confrontational, as if the Ramones were just reporting from a downed, barbed-wired, vacant city building -- a decrepit New York outpost with a dispatch. 

It's great. 

The Ramones - End Of The Century (1980)

End Of The Century is when the joke ends and the bubblegum gets serious. The Ramones are already cultural heroes, and as a result of their countercultural heroism, they attract the unstable, paranoid, and murderous impulses of Phil Spector, who seeks to produce them, to which the band agrees. And has it quickly fall apart but for Joey Ramone, to whom Phil Spector, suffering delusions, bequeaths a delusional muse status. The rest of the band hates Spector, hates his sound (Dee Dee Ramone would block the events out, accusing Spector of holding them at gunpoint during recording and saying Dee Dee had forgotten the recording of the album because of the psychological and sometimes physical abuse. Dee Dee, ever the junkie but somewhat solid moral compass of The Ramones, really, was probably not lying and not far off. This is a man, that when viewed through interviews, always comes off as the most humble and amiable Ramone.)

So the album. It's hard to hear it without the strains of crazy, but it still manages. There are very good tracks on it, though it's more pop than its predecessors. "Do You Remember Rock N' Roll Radio?" is a nostalgia trip that, if you can shake the Spector stink, sounds like a pleasant stroll by a bunch of punk rockers who always wore their early sixties influence on their sleeves. And the album proceeds thusly: if only you can shake Spector’s insanity, the album is quite solid, but only if you appreciated the pop side of the Ramones more than the punk. I will admit both conditions are difficult ones to meet, but I have somehow, as I age, been able to do both. It helps that I like Spector’s production separate from his insanity, and that I always liked the bubblegum aspect of the Ramones more than their shock. So there you have it. Two viable Ramones albums from different half-decades.

Bonus rounds TK tomorrow.

 
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I am not a fab of hers - and I'm probably past middle age - but folklore is a fantastic album and was one of the best ones from 2020. It's more of an indie rock record than here earlier stuff.
Huh.....

I guess I tend to gravitate toward female vocalists such as PJ Harvey, Ann Wilson, Shirley Manson, Fiona Apple.....i liked that gal from the Cranberries too

 
Huh.....

I guess I tend to gravitate toward female vocalists such as PJ Harvey, Ann Wilson, Shirley Manson, Fiona Apple.....i liked that gal from the Cranberries too
I can see your points, Manster. The FFA had a Taylor Swift thread where we all debated this. It's probably within the search function if you want to read us at each other's tastes a bit. 

eta* I bumped it for you, even. That's not passive-aggressive. Just want you to see that even we disagree at times on things, us music snobs. 

 
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Just to get this rolling, I was tempted to take an artist who I won't name, but I'm staying in my comfort zone here because I think the albums fit my playlist. Sorry to someone who could easily be a three half-decade pick tomorrow. 

10.23

1-2-3-4

I'm surprised he did that. Doesn't he know he's fourteen minutes early? 

No you're not surprised. Let's get away from the political if people want. 

From one of the most celebrated albums in punk history to one of the most reviled, The Ramones run the gamut with these two, both of which I happen to love, much to the chagrin of moralists, band purists, and general rock critics everywhere. 

The Ramones - The Ramones (1976)

There's not much to say about this album that hasn't already been said. You've heard it, even if you never sat down to listen to it. It's in the cultural ether, for sure. Dealing with the intensity of music as metaphor for a war zone ("The Blitzkrieg Bop"), the burgeoning punk rock scene ("Judy Is A Punk"), the virtues of inhalants ("Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue"), to the depths of desperation culminating in male prostitution ("53rd & 3rd") the Ramones's Ramones is fourteen tracks of schlocky shock, shocking no more to modern sensibilities because they, as artists and creators, shaped those very sensibilities. "Beat On The Brat," a light-hearted look at bullying, is probably the only shocker still left here. There's a dulled sense of propriety, a dulled sense of formality, a dulled sense of appropriateness that shook the cultural zeitgeist with the introduction of this music to modern sensibilities. And it's the most sinister of things. It's bubblegum music. Basic, sped-up, three chord amphetamine #### set to a bizarre familial backdrop, powerful imagery, and subject matter that is almost passively confrontational, as if the Ramones were just reporting from a downed, barbed-wired, vacant city building -- a decrepit New York outpost with a dispatch. 

It's great. 

The Ramones - End Of The Century (1980)

End Of The Century is when the joke ends and the bubblegum gets serious. The Ramones are already cultural heroes, and as a result of their countercultural heroism, they attract the unstable, paranoid, and murderous impulses of Phil Spector, who seeks to produce them, to which the band agrees. And has it quickly fall apart but for Joey Ramone, to whom Phil Spector, suffering delusions, bequeaths a delusional muse status. The rest of the band hates Spector, hates his sound (Dee Dee Ramone would block the events out, accusing Spector of holding them at gunpoint during recording and saying Dee Dee had forgotten the recording of the album because of the psychological and sometimes physical abuse. Dee Dee, ever the junkie but somewhat solid moral compass of The Ramones, really, was probably not lying and not far off. This is a man, that when viewed through interviews, always comes off as the most humble and amiable Ramone.)

So the album. It's hard to hear it without the strains of crazy, but it still manages. There are very good tracks on it, though it's more pop than its predecessors. "Do You Remember Rock N' Roll Radio?" is a nostalgia trip that, if you can shake the Spector stink, sounds like a pleasant stroll by a bunch of punk rockers who always wore their early sixties influence on their sleeves. And the album proceeds thusly: if only you can shake Spector’s insanity, the album is quite solid, but only if you appreciated the pop side of the Ramones more than the punk. I will admit both conditions are difficult ones to meet, but I have somehow, as I age, been able to do both. It helps that I like Spector’s production separate from his insanity, and that I always liked the bubblegum aspect of the Ramones more than their shock. So there you have it. Two viable Ramones albums from different half-decades.

Bonus rounds TK tomorrow.
lol... was just writing up the Ramones pick! Nice snipe.

switching to the next...

 
Huh.....

I guess I tend to gravitate toward female vocalists such as PJ Harvey, Ann Wilson, Shirley Manson, Fiona Apple.....i liked that gal from the Cranberries too
If you have a streaming music option give that record a "spin" you may be surprised. I was.

 
lol... was just writing up the Ramones pick! Nice snipe.

switching to the next...


Oh, no. I went early, too. I was sure nobody was taking that. I would have beaten you to it on the clock, too. I had it written up and was posting it. Sorry, though, man. I just wanted to get this going.

 

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