QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (7 Viewers)

[pinkstapler]

Working on a show sheet for an upcoming show and one aspect not mentioned as much as how the Rodgers signing could be really good for Kaleb Johnson. The last four seasons PIT gave Najee Harris an average of 274 carries a season. Also, no Aaron Rodgers starting RB finished lower than the RB13 in his last four seasons with the Packers. On average they finished as the RB8. Just a few things I like for Johnson with Rodgers coming in.

Where did Breece Hall finish last year? 1,359 YFS (57 receptions), 8 TDs, 6 fumbles. In my PPR league that was good for RB18 and I think Jaylen Warren will eat a bigger piece of the pie than Braelon Allen did with the Jets.

In my league, if he just cut his fumbles from 6 down to 3 he would have finished RB12 behind Conner. In other words RB12 and RB18 were separated by just 6 fantasy points (at least across my leagues). This isn't the case every year, but think it's important context to have for this discussion, otherwise RB12 vs RB18 can come off looking like a much larger discrepancy than it actually was.

 

[Chaka]

Working on a show sheet for an upcoming show and one aspect not mentioned as much as how the Rodgers signing could be really good for Kaleb Johnson. The last four seasons PIT gave Najee Harris an average of 274 carries a season. Also, no Aaron Rodgers starting RB finished lower than the RB13 in his last four seasons with the Packers. On average they finished as the RB8. Just a few things I like for Johnson with Rodgers coming in.

Where did Breece Hall finish last year? 1,359 YFS (57 receptions), 8 TDs, 6 fumbles. In my PPR league that was good for RB18 and I think Jaylen Warren will eat a bigger piece of the pie than Braelon Allen did with the Jets.

In my league, if he just cut his fumbles from 6 down to 3 he would have finished RB12 behind Conner. In other words RB12 and RB18 were separated by just 6 fantasy points (at least across my leagues). This isn't the case every year, but think it's important context to have for this discussion, otherwise RB12 vs RB18 can come off looking like a much larger discrepancy than it actually was.

League formats are funny like that, in my league there is a 1.7 ppg difference between RB12 & RB18 (about 29 fantasy points on the season).

 

[Chaka]

FantasySharks - 3631/36 (QB15)

36...what? No way that's TDs in an Artie Smith offense. Hell, did they score 36 as a whole offense last year? (ETA: I just checked. It was 37. )


All those other projections look eerily familiar....almost exactly like Russel Wilson's projected 17 game stats from '24.

Mr. Unlimited's pro-rated #s from last year over 17 games:

• 3516 yards
• 23 touchdowns
• 7 picks

Sounds about right. With a drubbing in round one of the playoffs, if they manage to WC their way in again.

Whose pro rated numbers are those? Wilson's or Rodgers? Because, those pro-rated numbers don't fit either guy.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

FantasySharks - 3631/36 (QB15)

36...what? No way that's TDs in an Artie Smith offense. Hell, did they score 36 as a whole offense last year? (ETA: I just checked. It was 37. )


All those other projections look eerily familiar....almost exactly like Russel Wilson's projected 17 game stats from '24.

Mr. Unlimited's pro-rated #s from last year over 17 games:

• 3516 yards
• 23 touchdowns
• 7 picks

Sounds about right. With a drubbing in round one of the playoffs, if they manage to WC their way in again.

Whose pro rated numbers are those? Wilson's or Rodgers? Because, those pro-rated numbers don't fit either guy.

Wilson's but I did the math incorrect. Thought he played 12 games last year. He was only in 11. Mea culpa.

My point remains the same: I expect Rodgers to put up about the same per-game #s in this offense that Wilson did, and the team will still get bludgeoned out of the playoffs by Insert Whatever Team You Like Here if they manage to make it in.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I don't know what their odds were pre Rodgers, but Draftkings currently has Steelers as -175 not to make the playoffs.

 

[zed2283]

Interesting on him not wanting #12 in New York.

Jets legend Joe Namath says Aaron Rodgers' forgoing retired No. 12 'touched my heart'

Joe Namath was willing to let the Jets unretire his No. 12 if new Jet Aaron Rodgers wanted to wear it, but the four-time MVP opted to change it up.

www.foxnews.com

Jets legend Joe Namath says Aaron Rodgers' forgoing retired No. 12 'touched my heart'​

Aaron Rodgers wore No. 12 for his entire 18-year tenue with the Green Bay Packers, so when rumors swirled that he could possibly join the New York Jets, questions were asked about what number he would wear.

That's because 12 is retired by Gang Green in honor of legendary quarterback Joe Namath.

Namath, though, was quick to give Rodgers his blessing and let the Jets unretire the number if the four-time MVP wanted to wear it.

However, "12 for the Jets is Joe Willy Namath," Rodgers said on Wednesday, and he has reverted to his college uniform number 8.

"I just thought it was appropriate for me to show the proper respect and honor for him and his career by taking a different number," he said.

Namath was touched by the gesture.

"That was warm, that touched my heart a bit, that shows something about the man," the Super Bowl III winner told the New York Post. "He has a way about him, a lot of respect for the past. I was humbly grateful, you know what I mean? It felt good. It made me like [him] even more. First time I met him I liked him, and I’ll tell you what, I’ve not seen anybody play better than him the times over the last 10, 15 years I’ve been watching."

Rodgers seems to have a strong sense of legacy so it doesn't surprise me at all.

I don't know. I never heard anything about him asking Browning Nagle if he minded him playing with his number

 

[Joe Bryant]

Maybe a press conference Monday or Tuesday?

Will likely have a verdict on number then. FWIW, Corliss Waitman has #8. I don't know how much that means to him. He's had several different numbers - Was 87 at South Alabama.

I did think it was interesting DK Metcalf moved from 14 to 4 at Pittsburgh. Kenneth Gainwell at 14.

Really important stuff here...

 

[Anarchy99]

Aaron Rodgers's one-year deal is worth up to $19.5 million

He said he'd play for $10 million. He's getting more than that.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Chaka]

Did he actually sign the contract today?

Do we have video documentation? Has it been run through Deepfake analysis?

I won't believe he's a Steeler until the Steelers provide me with the original long form contract and verification, in triplicate, that Aaron Rodgers does not own an Autopen.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Did he actually sign the contract today?

Do we have video documentation? Has it been run through Deepfake analysis?

I won't believe he's a Steeler until I the Steelers provide me with the original long form contract and verification, in triplicate, that Aaron Rodgers does not own an Autopen.

They say done deal. I guess we'll see Tuesday.

https://x.com/steelers/status/1931408521309909158

 

[menobrown]

Has it been run through Deepfake analysis?

Speaking of which I'm not normally a fan of AI/Fakes but this was pretty funny to me(and a little scary to this old man): https://x.com/notthefakeDNP/status/1930733108174696580

 

[Chaka]

Has it been run through Deepfake analysis?

Speaking of which I'm not normally a fan of AI/Fakes but this was pretty funny to me(and a little scary to this old man): https://x.com/notthefakeDNP/status/1930733108174696580

OMG! That is brilliant! And so, very, very scary.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Steelers signed QB Aaron Rodgers, formerly of the Jets, to a one-year, $13.65 million contract.
The deal includes $10 million in guaranteed money and $5.85 million in playing time and team performance incentives, bringing the potential total value to $19.5 million. It was previously reported that Rodgers would play for around $10 million this season with his new deal in Pittsburgh bringing that much in guarantees. The veteran quarterback would have made $37.5 million playing with the Jets this season, but the team has since moved on in favor of a cheaper contract with Justin Fields. Rodgers should not be expected to throw more than 30-33 times per-game based on the strength of Pittsburgh’s outstanding defense, which limits his fantasy appeal to deeper leagues and two-quarterback formats.

There it is. Guaranteed $10M

 

[Chaka]

Steelers signed QB Aaron Rodgers, formerly of the Jets, to a one-year, $13.65 million contract.
The deal includes $10 million in guaranteed money and $5.85 million in playing time and team performance incentives, bringing the potential total value to $19.5 million. It was previously reported that Rodgers would play for around $10 million this season with his new deal in Pittsburgh bringing that much in guarantees. The veteran quarterback would have made $37.5 million playing with the Jets this season, but the team has since moved on in favor of a cheaper contract with Justin Fields. Rodgers should not be expected to throw more than 30-33 times per-game based on the strength of Pittsburgh’s outstanding defense, which limits his fantasy appeal to deeper leagues and two-quarterback formats.

There it is. Guaranteed $10M

I think the practical guarantee is closer to $14 million, unless you think the Steelers will cut him before the season starts.

But there are a lot of questions about how much PT and how many wins.

 

[sm8680]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable. The Jets moved on, just like a company cutting costs and letting go of experienced employees.

Now, Rodgers is in a position where he has to weigh his options. Some teams show interest, but not all of them are willing to pay what he’s worth. The Steelers, a franchise that could benefit from his leadership, come in with an offer that doesn’t quite reflect his past earnings. It’s like a job interview where the salary offer is lower than expected do you take it immediately, or do you make them wait, knowing they need you more than you need them?

Rodgers, like a veteran tech worker, has leverage. He can string them along, make them sweat a little, knowing that even though he’s signing today, he’s aware of how they undervalued him. It’s a calculated move one that acknowledges his worthwhile making sure the Steelers understand that they got a deal, not a desperate quarterback.

 

[Chaka]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable.

"Hold my beer."

~Brett Favre

 

[Leroy Hoard]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable.

"Hold my beer."

~Brett Favre

What goes around comes around.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable. The Jets moved on, just like a company cutting costs and letting go of experienced employees.

Now, Rodgers is in a position where he has to weigh his options. Some teams show interest, but not all of them are willing to pay what he’s worth. The Steelers, a franchise that could benefit from his leadership, come in with an offer that doesn’t quite reflect his past earnings. It’s like a job interview where the salary offer is lower than expected do you take it immediately, or do you make them wait, knowing they need you more than you need them?

Rodgers, like a veteran tech worker, has leverage. He can string them along, make them sweat a little, knowing that even though he’s signing today, he’s aware of how they undervalued him. It’s a calculated move one that acknowledges his worthwhile making sure the Steelers understand that they got a deal, not a desperate quarterback.

This analogy works if you consider ARod to be like that tech worker called out of retirement as a COBOL programmer for the Y2K bug.

A diminished skill set, yet one that’s in demand due to lack of preparation on the company’s behalf. Limited skill set, diminished capacity for adding new tricks to his bag, and in no way interested in corporate culture, yet able to command a high rate of pay for the limited skills they still possess because they’re in urgent demand.

Perfect analogy, thanks.

 

[Joe Bryant]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable. The Jets moved on, just like a company cutting costs and letting go of experienced employees.

Now, Rodgers is in a position where he has to weigh his options. Some teams show interest, but not all of them are willing to pay what he’s worth. The Steelers, a franchise that could benefit from his leadership, come in with an offer that doesn’t quite reflect his past earnings. It’s like a job interview where the salary offer is lower than expected do you take it immediately, or do you make them wait, knowing they need you more than you need them?

Rodgers, like a veteran tech worker, has leverage. He can string them along, make them sweat a little, knowing that even though he’s signing today, he’s aware of how they undervalued him. It’s a calculated move one that acknowledges his worthwhile making sure the Steelers understand that they got a deal, not a desperate quarterback.

Well said. As I mentioned in the earlier discussion, I think part of why this story got attention is the relatability. I don't think any of us here are NFL players, but lots of us are at the age where we can relate to the established career performing at a high level and the challenges that can bring at the end of the career.

This just happens to be one of the highest-profile jobs in the world. But the concept applies to lots of people.

 

[Tau837]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable. The Jets moved on, just like a company cutting costs and letting go of experienced employees.

Now, Rodgers is in a position where he has to weigh his options. Some teams show interest, but not all of them are willing to pay what he’s worth. The Steelers, a franchise that could benefit from his leadership, come in with an offer that doesn’t quite reflect his past earnings. It’s like a job interview where the salary offer is lower than expected do you take it immediately, or do you make them wait, knowing they need you more than you need them?

Rodgers, like a veteran tech worker, has leverage. He can string them along, make them sweat a little, knowing that even though he’s signing today, he’s aware of how they undervalued him. It’s a calculated move one that acknowledges his worthwhile making sure the Steelers understand that they got a deal, not a desperate quarterback.

Respectfully, I don't think it is ever valid to compare normal job situations to pro athlete job situations.

Normal job situations don't exist in closed small markets (e.g., with 32 starting QB jobs total). Most normal job situations also don't commonly have performance that declines substantially after a peak in the employee's 30s, with retirement common by late 30s to early 40s. There is no equivalent to the salary cap in business. Etc.

I don't think this analogy works at all. There is no tech worker situation truly like this one.

 

[sm8680]

Your right NFL players face rigid constraints. My analogy isn’t about identical markets but about the human experience of navigating career twilight and value perception, something athletes and professionals both understand.

For me, the real concern wasn’t just Aaron stalling with the Steelers it was the financial hit he took once the numbers came out. His pay cut compared to previous years is what truly stands out.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable. The Jets moved on, just like a company cutting costs and letting go of experienced employees.

Now, Rodgers is in a position where he has to weigh his options. Some teams show interest, but not all of them are willing to pay what he’s worth. The Steelers, a franchise that could benefit from his leadership, come in with an offer that doesn’t quite reflect his past earnings. It’s like a job interview where the salary offer is lower than expected do you take it immediately, or do you make them wait, knowing they need you more than you need them?

Rodgers, like a veteran tech worker, has leverage. He can string them along, make them sweat a little, knowing that even though he’s signing today, he’s aware of how they undervalued him. It’s a calculated move one that acknowledges his worthwhile making sure the Steelers understand that they got a deal, not a desperate quarterback.

I don’t agree with the term “undervalued” in this situation. On what do you base the claim that the Steelers “undervalued him?” He’s got fantastic representation and I’m sure the market was fully tested. As for the Jets decision to move on, it seems like you’re critical of them for that decision? I guess we can talk about the way it was handled, although I think we only have one side of that story, but the team’s decision to move on seems like an easy one to me.

 

[Chaka]

A new take on Aaron Rodgers' situation mirrors that of a seasoned professional who’s been pushed out before they were ready. You’ve built a career, earned respect, and suddenly, the organization that once valued you decides you’re expendable. The Jets moved on, just like a company cutting costs and letting go of experienced employees.

Now, Rodgers is in a position where he has to weigh his options. Some teams show interest, but not all of them are willing to pay what he’s worth. The Steelers, a franchise that could benefit from his leadership, come in with an offer that doesn’t quite reflect his past earnings. It’s like a job interview where the salary offer is lower than expected do you take it immediately, or do you make them wait, knowing they need you more than you need them?

Rodgers, like a veteran tech worker, has leverage. He can string them along, make them sweat a little, knowing that even though he’s signing today, he’s aware of how they undervalued him. It’s a calculated move one that acknowledges his worthwhile making sure the Steelers understand that they got a deal, not a desperate quarterback.

Well said. As I mentioned in the earlier discussion, I think part of why this story got attention is the relatability. I don't think any of us here are NFL players, but lots of us are at the age where we can relate to the established career performing at a high level and the challenges that can bring at the end of the career.

This just happens to be one of the highest-profile jobs in the world. But the concept applies to lots of people.

Interesting. JB, IMO 100% of the reason why this story got traction is because who it is about. HoF, multi MVP winning QB who has a large off field persona.

Can you honestly name one person who was interested because he is an aging worker who will have to hang it up soon?