QB Brock Purdy, SF (2 Viewers)

[JohnnyU]

Probably not a horrible floor today against the Dolphins, but I don't see a big game from him. If you have a higher upside play I would do it. I'm starting Cooper Rush against a bad Bucs pass defense over Purdy.

 

[(HULK)]

They have to stay committed to him since there isn't any other QB behind him or ahead of him. Purdy is small, doesn't have the arm strength, is injury prone, and was really a product of CMC. This has been all proven out this season. If the 49ers decide to pay him above market rate, that only shows that the 49ers are desperate for a QB like they had been for years. Sure they can gurantee Purdy five years at 55 mil a season, but that's not going to happen. Even if they do, he's going to be in IR by week 9 of next season. 49er QB's don't last under Kyle Shanahan. They are disposable QB's and the best thing under Kyle Shanahan is keep drafting serviceable QB's who can run his offense like Purdy when you have generational talent like CMC or Kittle around him. Sure they can pay Purdy "Generation Talent" money. But Purdy is not generational talent.

He was doing better before CMC came back so not sure how he's a product of him.

My opinion moved in the opposite direction this season. He's lost weapon after weapon and still been very good (as long as it isn't wet).

 

[drummer]

This last game didn't really move the needle to where "Brock Purdy is the best player on the 49ers and he needs to get paid more than Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, and all anyone else like Love, Daniiels, Goff, Darnold, and anyone else like even an old Rodgers with an *** franchise has over 20 TDs in the last two weeks of a season but hey, an FBG guy in Tamp who gave up on his so called team already doesn't care. He thinks Baker playing for the Bucs on a team friendly deal who has thrown for 34 TDs and counting with a team that is just an injured doesn't deserve that contract.".

Now, it''s not me saying this. In Florida, it's all "plausible deniablity".

 

[drummer]

BTW, the real reason why the 49ers would give tiny Purdy a max contract is because of the guy in my avatar, whose family has been one of the most incompetent owners in the NFL.

This is the formula since even before they owned the team and when Carmen Policy, Vinnie Cerratto, and maybe it was then when they passed on Tom Brady in their own backyard for Gio Carmazzi way back then:: Purdy is the only Pro Bowl QB since Jeff Garcia, and that season where Garcia made the PB on a 6-10 team where he threw for 31 Tds to 11 INTs for over 4000 yards, with Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Charlie Garner. With Steve Mariucci's offense. Garcia in five seasons threw for 113 TDs to 56 INTs in five seasons with the 49ers.

Bill Walsh signed him as a UDFA as a favor to an old friend when he came back to the 49ers as GM under the Yorks. Here is another thing: it was the first time Walsh ever had to deal with a new thing called the salary cap. They wound up giving deals to Garcia and Owens as well as other players...

And then they went into Salary Cap Hell.

They give Brock Purdy max contract, they will be in Salary Cap Hell part deux. And guess who was one of the main executives during the salary cap hell purge back then, where they gutted the whole offense in Dennis Erickson's second season (after John York fired Mooch because he;s a York).

The guy who still oversees the cap that will have to do the same as they did back then.

Edit: back in the day, Steve Young had to win a Super Bowl after losing many playoff games and NFCCG's in order to have the fanbase want him back. Brock Purdy? You know what Charles Haley said about Steve Young even after he won that SB?

"What has he ever won? Joe won more".

Purdy is one of three who lost a Super Bowl with the 49ers: Colin Kaepernick, Jimmy Garropollo, and now Brock Purdy.

None of who will wear a Gold HOF jacket.

 

[Boston]

It is very easy to say don't give Purdy a contract but you can't simply say that unless you also have a plan for how you will get your next franchise QB (I don't think saying drafting one in the 7th round is a plan...that's luck bordering on a miracle)...if you are a don't pay Purdy guy (which I am not because I really like him but I can understand the fear of paying him a big deal) there are two parts to this equation (moving on from him and replacing him with someone who hopefully is better than Trey Lance)...the basic fact of the modern NFL is if you don't have a legit long-term QB you are probably not going to be an overly stable team and the HC and GM probably won't have a long shelf-life.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Didn’t we already do this dance recently with Lamar? People were adamant that Baltimore shouldn’t pay him? And where would the Ravens be right now without him?

They are going to pay Purdy, because he deserves to be paid because he’s a franchise QB, and contrary to what people seem to think, those don’t grow on trees.

If you’re placing the blame for SF’s lost season squarely on his shoulders(I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve some of the blame), then quite frankly you haven’t been paying attention to their season as a whole.

 

[Kiddnets]

Didn’t we already do this dance recently with Lamar? People were adamant that Baltimore shouldn’t pay him? And where would the Ravens be right now without him?

They are going to pay Purdy, because he deserves to be paid because he’s a franchise QB, and contrary to what people seem to think, those don’t grow on trees.

If you’re placing the blame for SF’s lost season squarely on his shoulders(I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve some of the blame), then quite frankly you haven’t been paying attention to their season as a whole.

No other options are out there - they have to sign him

As for fantasy - Purdy is right outside top 12 QBs and thats after losing most of his weapons, hurting his shoulder, missing 1 game and horrific weather for 2 other games. Im fine buying low on Purdy and rolling with him next year

 

[Snotbubbles]

BTW, the real reason why the 49ers would give tiny Purdy a max contract is because of the guy in my avatar, whose family has been one of the most incompetent owners in the NFL.

This is the formula since even before they owned the team and when Carmen Policy, Vinnie Cerratto, and maybe it was then when they passed on Tom Brady in their own backyard for Gio Carmazzi way back then:: Purdy is the only Pro Bowl QB since Jeff Garcia, and that season where Garcia made the PB on a 6-10 team where he threw for 31 Tds to 11 INTs for over 4000 yards, with Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Charlie Garner. With Steve Mariucci's offense. Garcia in five seasons threw for 113 TDs to 56 INTs in five seasons with the 49ers.

Bill Walsh signed him as a UDFA as a favor to an old friend when he came back to the 49ers as GM under the Yorks. Here is another thing: it was the first time Walsh ever had to deal with a new thing called the salary cap. They wound up giving deals to Garcia and Owens as well as other players...

And then they went into Salary Cap Hell.

They give Brock Purdy max contract, they will be in Salary Cap Hell part deux. And guess who was one of the main executives during the salary cap hell purge back then, where they gutted the whole offense in Dennis Erickson's second season (after John York fired Mooch because he;s a York).

The guy who still oversees the cap that will have to do the same as they did back then.

Edit: back in the day, Steve Young had to win a Super Bowl after losing many playoff games and NFCCG's in order to have the fanbase want him back. Brock Purdy? You know what Charles Haley said about Steve Young even after he won that SB?

"What has he ever won? Joe won more".

Purdy is one of three who lost a Super Bowl with the 49ers: Colin Kaepernick, Jimmy Garropollo, and now Brock Purdy.

None of who will wear a Gold HOF jacket.

Purdy is a guy who needs the perfect situation to succeed. If I'm building a team, I'm not signing the guy to $55M AAV, I'd rather just sign Russell Wilson to a smaller, shorter deal and let him game manage the team for the next two or three years and try to draft a replacement. All I heard in the best coaches thread was how awesome Kyle Shanahan is a coach, he should be able to build up just about any QB with talent. The 49ers window is all but closed with this core and having Purdy's contract on the books makes it all the harder to build a team of All-Pro skill players around him, which it appears he needs to be successful.

 

[(HULK)]

I just completely disagree with the narrative that Purdy only succeeds because of the surrounding talent.

Purdy is a very good NFL QB. He's not great, but very good NFL QBs do not grow on trees.

 

[drummer]

This season he's regressed to less than the median to awful in the second half and in the 4th quarter and whose numbers are skewed like if the hoop on a basketball court was as wide as Stephen A Smith's mouth, you can shoot a ball anywhere like you were playing horse because you know it's always going to be open, just by the ESPN script. Maybe you might have a tighter window due to Stephen A's dentures before the Clear Choice era to skew it for Lombardi to toss AN HISTORIC STAT after throwing 2 INTs that was the real reason why they lost against DET.

He's not Fools Gold. He's just a QB who get's fooled by stat nerds.

 

[JoeJoe88]

This season he's regressed to less than the median to awful in the second half and in the 4th quarter and whose numbers are skewed like if the hoop on a basketball court was as wide as Stephen A Smith's mouth, you can shoot a ball anywhere like you were playing horse because you know it's always going to be open, just by the ESPN script. Maybe you might have a tighter window due to Stephen A's dentures before the Clear Choice era to skew it for Lombardi to toss AN HISTORIC STAT after throwing 2 INTs that was the real reason why they lost against DET.

He's not Fools Gold. He's just a QB who get's fooled by stat nerds.

What are you drunk, Mr. Hurley?

 

[drummer]

This season he's regressed to less than the median to awful in the second half and in the 4th quarter and whose numbers are skewed like if the hoop on a basketball court was as wide as Stephen A Smith's mouth, you can shoot a ball anywhere like you were playing horse because you know it's always going to be open, just by the ESPN script. Maybe you might have a tighter window due to Stephen A's dentures before the Clear Choice era to skew it for Lombardi to toss AN HISTORIC STAT after throwing 2 INTs that was the real reason why they lost against DET.

He's not Fools Gold. He's just a QB who get's fooled by stat nerds.

What are you drunk, Mr. Hurley?

I ain't that guy, I mean I would had to try to spend my entire life with 49er fans online. You know how fruitless that is?

It's like trying deal with 49er fans here.

 

[drummer]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

 

[drummer]

I think the talk about Purdy and a max contract going forward would had to include that this is his third game in a row where he threw a game losing INT.

Third game in a row. This is late stage Kirk Cousins.

 

[JohnnyU]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

This Purdy hate is lame and not even well thought out.

 

[zamboni]

Agree that I’m not sure where the Purdy hate is coming from. He definitely regressed this year but was also missing two critical cogs in CMC and Aiyuk. Maybe he’s not a top QB in the league, but he’s good enough to make this offense hum and he’s going to get paid as such.

 

[Boston]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

This Purdy hate is lame and not even well thought out.

It is the grass is always greener syndrome...that and the fact some just can't accept that QBs get paid a boatload of money...the NFL is a QB-first league...when you have a quality young one (and Purdy most certainly is a good one) you have a good chance to have sustained success...sure you can get lucky with a late-round pick or a reclamation project but that is luck and not a plan.

 

[kface]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

This Purdy hate is lame and not even well thought out.

It is the grass is always greener syndrome...that and the fact some just can't accept that QBs get paid a boatload of money...the NFL is a QB-first league...when you have a quality young one (and Purdy most certainly is a good one) you have a good chance to have sustained success...sure you can get lucky with a late-round pick or a reclamation project but that is luck and not a plan.

You guys act like just because others are doing it everyone should do it

Kyler, Carr, Watson, Geno, Daniel Jones, Prescott, Tua, Lawrence - all teams that have huge money tied up into a mediocre QB so they can win 6-8 games each season and be fated to a decade of meh.

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it. Or sign him to a 2 year deal.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Some 49ers fans have lost the plot. Maybe a huge contract this offseason to Purdy isn’t the answer, but good qbs don’t grow on trees. Nor do good coaches.

 

[Boston]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

This Purdy hate is lame and not even well thought out.

It is the grass is always greener syndrome...that and the fact some just can't accept that QBs get paid a boatload of money...the NFL is a QB-first league...when you have a quality young one (and Purdy most certainly is a good one) you have a good chance to have sustained success...sure you can get lucky with a late-round pick or a reclamation project but that is luck and not a plan.

You guys act like just because others are doing it everyone should do it

Kyler, Carr, Watson, Geno, Daniel Jones, Prescott, Tua, Lawrence - all teams that have huge money tied up into a mediocre QB so they can win 6-8 games each season and be fated to a decade of meh.

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it. Or sign him to a 2 year deal.

If you want to kick the can down the road do it...just understand that the cost could end up being dramatically higher...my frustration when it comes to this overall topic (not just Purdy but all QB situations like this) is if you don't want to extend the QB (in this case Purdy) that is fine but what is your Plan B...it is easy to say don't sign him but what is the plan after that.

 

[zamboni]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

 

[thecatch]

Purdy's numbers have slightly decreased this year, most notably his TD passes. But he's still 3rd in the league in Y/A despite the fact that he's been leading a decimated and snake bitten offensive unit. I think he's pretty clearly still in that second tier of QBs with Jordan Love, Prescott, etc. If he wants Prescott's deal, I negotiate hard. If he'll take Love's deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I'm not a cap expert, but I understand that there's a cap benefit to doing an extension with a year left on his existing contract in terms of how the cap hits can be spread out.

 

[-OZ-]

He might be - but let him prove it.

What else do you want him to do? He shouldn’t be a top 5 paid QB, but $40s seems about right.

 

[Tau837]

Purdy's numbers have slightly decreased this year, most notably his TD passes. But he's still 3rd in the league in Y/A despite the fact that he's been leading a decimated and snake bitten offensive unit. I think he's pretty clearly still in that second tier of QBs with Jordan Love, Prescott, etc. If he wants Prescott's deal, I negotiate hard. If he'll take Love's deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I'm not a cap expert, but I understand that there's a cap benefit to doing an extension with a year left on his existing contract in terms of how the cap hits can be spread out.

Suppose he signs a 4 year extension this offseason. The big jump in cap hit won't likely occur until 2027, the second year of the extension. If they sign the extension this offseason, that means 3 years of cap increases from the 2024 cap, which mitigates the impact somwhat. It also means two more offseasons of QB contracts will occur before that 2027 jump, at which point, it will presumably look more reasonable than it does at signing.

 

[Snotbubbles]

He might be - but let him prove it.

What else do you want him to do? He shouldn’t be a top 5 paid QB, but $40s seems about right.

Purdy's agent, is hanging up the phone on Lynch if he even tries to offer a contract for $40M AAV? The AAV number for Purdy will start with a 5, minimum, and might get as high as a 6. That's where the QB market went this offseason.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Purdy's numbers have slightly decreased this year, most notably his TD passes. But he's still 3rd in the league in Y/A despite the fact that he's been leading a decimated and snake bitten offensive unit. I think he's pretty clearly still in that second tier of QBs with Jordan Love, Prescott, etc. If he wants Prescott's deal, I negotiate hard. If he'll take Love's deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I'm not a cap expert, but I understand that there's a cap benefit to doing an extension with a year left on his existing contract in terms of how the cap hits can be spread out.

Suppose he signs a 4 year extension this offseason. The big jump in cap hit won't likely occur until 2027, the second year of the extension. If they sign the extension this offseason, that means 3 years of cap increases from the 2024 cap, which mitigates the impact somwhat. It also means two more offseasons of QB contracts will occur before that 2027 jump, at which point, it will presumably look more reasonable than it does at signing.

The way I understand it and I'll just use an example.
4yrs/$200M, $50M signing bonus, just work with me a second
-The 4th year of his rookie contract has to be played out to my understanding so his base salary in '25 will be $1M or something like that, Tua played Year 4 of his rookie deal for $4M in '23
Where Purdy gets ahead is the signing bonus which will go right into his bank account
When you make less than $1M a season, that signing bonus is gonna feel good

Then in '26 his salary would certainly sky rocket from wherever it's at right now, but that signing bonus will get spread out over 3-4-5 years and so his cap hit in '25 won't be sky high

 

[Tau837]

He definitely regressed this year but was also missing two critical cogs in CMC and Aiyuk.

Missed games on 49ers offense this year:

• QB:
  • Purdy missed 1 game due to a shoulder injury
  • He left the MNF game with an elbow injury that may cause him to miss the final game
• OL:
  • LT1 Williams (2023 AP1) - on IR; missed 6 games so far, will miss 7
  • LT2 Moore - on IR; started 5 games in relief of Williams, went on IR and will miss final 2 games
  • LG1 Banks - on IR; missed 3 games, will miss 4
  • OL Bartch - on IR; started 2 games in relief of Banks, went on IR and will miss final 4 games
• RB:
  • RB1 McCaffrey (2023 AP1, OPOY) - missed 12 games so far, will miss 13
  • 2023 RB2 Mitchell - on IR all season; missed 17 games
  • RB2 Mason - on IR; started 6 games in relief of McCaffrey, went on IR and will miss final 5 games
  • RB3 Guerendo - started 2 games in relief of McCaffrey/Mason so far, missed 1 game
• WR:
  • WR1 Aiyuk (2023 AP2) - missed 9 games so far, will miss 10
  • WR2 Deebo - missed 1 game
  • WR3 Jennings - missed 2 games
  • WR4 Pearsall - missed 6 games
• TE:
  • TE1 Kittle (2023 AP1) - missed 2 games

That's a lot to overcome IMO.

PFF has graded 46 QBs with at least 100 dropbacks this season. Purdy's PFF offense grade (82.4) currently ranks #9 on that list. His passing grade (76.3) ranks #14. His running grade (90.2) ranks #4.

Yes, that is regression from last year, when his respective grades were 87.4 (#6), 81.5 (#13), and 92.0 (#1)... but not much regression. Considering the list above, it seems understandable and reasonable.

The biggest question now is how serious his elbow injury is, and if/how that might affect his potential contract extension.

 

[Faust]

49ers believe Brock Purdy dealing with nerve issue in right elbow

 

[Tau837]

Purdy's numbers have slightly decreased this year, most notably his TD passes. But he's still 3rd in the league in Y/A despite the fact that he's been leading a decimated and snake bitten offensive unit. I think he's pretty clearly still in that second tier of QBs with Jordan Love, Prescott, etc. If he wants Prescott's deal, I negotiate hard. If he'll take Love's deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I'm not a cap expert, but I understand that there's a cap benefit to doing an extension with a year left on his existing contract in terms of how the cap hits can be spread out.

Suppose he signs a 4 year extension this offseason. The big jump in cap hit won't likely occur until 2027, the second year of the extension. If they sign the extension this offseason, that means 3 years of cap increases from the 2024 cap, which mitigates the impact somwhat. It also means two more offseasons of QB contracts will occur before that 2027 jump, at which point, it will presumably look more reasonable than it does at signing.

The way I understand it and I'll just use an example.
4yrs/$200M, $50M signing bonus, just work with me a second
-The 4th year of his rookie contract has to be played out to my understanding so his base salary in '25 will be $1M or something like that, Tua played Year 4 of his rookie deal for $4M in '23
Where Purdy gets ahead is the signing bonus which will go right into his bank account
When you make less than $1M a season, that signing bonus is gonna feel good

Then in '26 his salary would certainly sky rocket from wherever it's at right now, but that signing bonus will get spread out over 3-4-5 years and so his cap hit in '25 won't be sky high

Hurts is a good example. Like Purdy, Hurts was not drafted in the first round, so the team had no 5th year option for him. He signed a 4 year contract extension in the offseason before his 4th season in 2023. Here are where his cap hits ranked/currently rank among QBs today:

2023 (4th year) - $6.1M, #27
2024 (5th) - $13.6M, #16
2025 (6th) - $21.8M, #18
2026 (7th) - $31.8M, #16
2027 (8th) - $41.8M, #12
2028 (9th) - $47.1M, #8

The Eagles have an easy out before the 2028 season, so he likely will never play that contract year under his current contract terms. If he is still playing well enough, he will probably sign another extension that will lower that 2028 number and add 3-4 more years.

Also keep in mind that those cap hit ranks will get pushed down by additional contracts starting as soon as 2025 (Darnold, Purdy? Wilson?).

Keep in mind, Hurts was 2nd team All Pro and 2nd in MVP voting and PHI made the Super Bowl in 2022, the year before he signed this extension. His leverage was as good as it gets. It is two years later, so the market has gone up since then, but this gives an idea of how the cap hit increases will likely be staggered over time.

 

[Wingnut]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

This Purdy hate is lame and not even well thought out.

Consider the source, that guy is just a hater thar posts nothing but nonsense.

 

[Boston]

He might be - but let him prove it.

What else do you want him to do? He shouldn’t be a top 5 paid QB, but $40s seems about right.

I don't see him being lower than Lawrence...and he shouldn't be.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Purdy's numbers have slightly decreased this year, most notably his TD passes. But he's still 3rd in the league in Y/A despite the fact that he's been leading a decimated and snake bitten offensive unit. I think he's pretty clearly still in that second tier of QBs with Jordan Love, Prescott, etc. If he wants Prescott's deal, I negotiate hard. If he'll take Love's deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I'm not a cap expert, but I understand that there's a cap benefit to doing an extension with a year left on his existing contract in terms of how the cap hits can be spread out.

Suppose he signs a 4 year extension this offseason. The big jump in cap hit won't likely occur until 2027, the second year of the extension. If they sign the extension this offseason, that means 3 years of cap increases from the 2024 cap, which mitigates the impact somwhat. It also means two more offseasons of QB contracts will occur before that 2027 jump, at which point, it will presumably look more reasonable than it does at signing.

The way I understand it and I'll just use an example.
4yrs/$200M, $50M signing bonus, just work with me a second
-The 4th year of his rookie contract has to be played out to my understanding so his base salary in '25 will be $1M or something like that, Tua played Year 4 of his rookie deal for $4M in '23
Where Purdy gets ahead is the signing bonus which will go right into his bank account
When you make less than $1M a season, that signing bonus is gonna feel good

Then in '26 his salary would certainly sky rocket from wherever it's at right now, but that signing bonus will get spread out over 3-4-5 years and so his cap hit in '25 won't be sky high

Hurts is a good example. Like Purdy, Hurts was not drafted in the first round, so the team had no 5th year option for him. He signed a 4 year contract extension in the offseason before his 4th season in 2023. Here are where his cap hits ranked/currently rank among QBs today:

2023 (4th year) - $6.1M, #27
2024 (5th) - $13.6M, #16
2025 (6th) - $21.8M, #18
2026 (7th) - $31.8M, #16
2027 (8th) - $41.8M, #12
2028 (9th) - $47.1M, #8

The Eagles have an easy out before the 2028 season, so he likely will never play that contract year under his current contract terms. If he is still playing well enough, he will probably sign another extension that will lower that 2028 number and add 3-4 more years.

Also keep in mind that those cap hit ranks will get pushed down by additional contracts starting as soon as 2025 (Darnold, Purdy? Wilson?).

Keep in mind, Hurts was 2nd team All Pro and 2nd in MVP voting and PHI made the Super Bowl in 2022, the year before he signed this extension. His leverage was as good as it gets. It is two years later, so the market has gone up since then, but this gives an idea of how the cap hit increases will likely be staggered over time.

Don't forget that $97.5M void year in 2029. That a massive cap hit if the Eagles don't extend him.

 

[-OZ-]

He might be - but let him prove it.

What else do you want him to do? He shouldn’t be a top 5 paid QB, but $40s seems about right.

Purdy's agent, is hanging up the phone on Lynch if he even tries to offer a contract for $40M AAV? The AAV number for Purdy will start with a 5, minimum, and might get as high as a 6. That's where the QB market went this offseason.

Fair enough. $60 seems entirely too high. 50s probably is right but that still seems like a lot.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

 

[Tau837]

Purdy's numbers have slightly decreased this year, most notably his TD passes. But he's still 3rd in the league in Y/A despite the fact that he's been leading a decimated and snake bitten offensive unit. I think he's pretty clearly still in that second tier of QBs with Jordan Love, Prescott, etc. If he wants Prescott's deal, I negotiate hard. If he'll take Love's deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I'm not a cap expert, but I understand that there's a cap benefit to doing an extension with a year left on his existing contract in terms of how the cap hits can be spread out.

Suppose he signs a 4 year extension this offseason. The big jump in cap hit won't likely occur until 2027, the second year of the extension. If they sign the extension this offseason, that means 3 years of cap increases from the 2024 cap, which mitigates the impact somwhat. It also means two more offseasons of QB contracts will occur before that 2027 jump, at which point, it will presumably look more reasonable than it does at signing.

The way I understand it and I'll just use an example.
4yrs/$200M, $50M signing bonus, just work with me a second
-The 4th year of his rookie contract has to be played out to my understanding so his base salary in '25 will be $1M or something like that, Tua played Year 4 of his rookie deal for $4M in '23
Where Purdy gets ahead is the signing bonus which will go right into his bank account
When you make less than $1M a season, that signing bonus is gonna feel good

Then in '26 his salary would certainly sky rocket from wherever it's at right now, but that signing bonus will get spread out over 3-4-5 years and so his cap hit in '25 won't be sky high

Hurts is a good example. Like Purdy, Hurts was not drafted in the first round, so the team had no 5th year option for him. He signed a 4 year contract extension in the offseason before his 4th season in 2023. Here are where his cap hits ranked/currently rank among QBs today:

2023 (4th year) - $6.1M, #27
2024 (5th) - $13.6M, #16
2025 (6th) - $21.8M, #18
2026 (7th) - $31.8M, #16
2027 (8th) - $41.8M, #12
2028 (9th) - $47.1M, #8

The Eagles have an easy out before the 2028 season, so he likely will never play that contract year under his current contract terms. If he is still playing well enough, he will probably sign another extension that will lower that 2028 number and add 3-4 more years.

Also keep in mind that those cap hit ranks will get pushed down by additional contracts starting as soon as 2025 (Darnold, Purdy? Wilson?).

Keep in mind, Hurts was 2nd team All Pro and 2nd in MVP voting and PHI made the Super Bowl in 2022, the year before he signed this extension. His leverage was as good as it gets. It is two years later, so the market has gone up since then, but this gives an idea of how the cap hit increases will likely be staggered over time.

Don't forget that $97.5M void year in 2029. That a massive cap hit if the Eagles don't extend him.

You're right. If they release or trade him after 2027, it's a $95M cap hit in 2028. If they release or trade him after 2028, it's a $97.5M cap hit in 2029. It would seem that this effectively guarantees there will be another contract extension.

But it still seems like a pretty team friendly contract, since it seems likely that he won't be in the top 15 of QB cap hits until possibly 2029 or later, meaning not until after the full 5 years of the first extension (if ever). It seems like a solid model for the 49ers to consider with Purdy.

 

[Boston]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

 

[IHEARTFF]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

Yes agree with this part about KS too. He knows as does Lynch. I think a good faith 4/200 120G or so seems fair.

They really need to draft Trent Williams successor and fill other holes and they’ll be right back in the mix.

 

[thecatch]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

Yep, QB salaries are not going to regress anytime soon. $60m might seem like an eye watering amount now but in a year (or two?) when Stroud is talking about $70+ million, maybe the $60ish for Purdy the year before doesn’t look as unpalatable.

 

[Wingnut]

Purdy OK, will not play Sunday

Brock Purdy avoids serious injury to arm but will likely miss season finale, 49ers say

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy appears to have escaped serious injury after being taken out early from Monday night's loss.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[efactor]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

Yep, QB salaries are not going to regress anytime soon. $60m might seem like an eye watering amount now but in a year (or two?) when Stroud is talking about $70+ million, maybe the $60ish for Purdy the year before doesn’t look as unpalatable.

If the Texans give Stroud that, they are insane. Would much rather have Purdy and I don't SF should pay him 55 million a year.

 

[thecatch]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

Yep, QB salaries are not going to regress anytime soon. $60m might seem like an eye watering amount now but in a year (or two?) when Stroud is talking about $70+ million, maybe the $60ish for Purdy the year before doesn’t look as unpalatable.

If the Texans give Stroud that, they are insane. Would much rather have Purdy and I don't SF should pay him 55 million a year.

If the standard continues to be that every new QB contract for a decent QB resets the market and the salary cap continues to grow, Stroud is going to be the highest paid player in football when he is up and that seems to be the range for that type of deal.

 

[efactor]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

Yep, QB salaries are not going to regress anytime soon. $60m might seem like an eye watering amount now but in a year (or two?) when Stroud is talking about $70+ million, maybe the $60ish for Purdy the year before doesn’t look as unpalatable.

If the Texans give Stroud that, they are insane. Would much rather have Purdy and I don't SF should pay him 55 million a year.

If the standard continues to be that every new QB contract for a decent QB resets the market and the salary cap continues to grow, Stroud is going to be the highest paid player in football when he is up and that seems to be the range for that type of deal.

I guess, but man, just seems giving out these huge contracts to QBs who aren't elite is not a smart way to build a team. Lawrence, Daniel Jones, Kyler, Tua, Watson. Team destroying type deals. Houston better be careful because CJ looks straight up below average this year.

 

[Dizzy]

He might be - but let him prove it. He's got one more year left and let him play on it.

I do agree with this. It’s not like he’s a free agent and they need to pay him this offseason. Put the band back together and see if he gets back closer to what he was in 2023 - then pay him. Of course, things don’t typically work out that way in the NFL business world.

They can't let him get into his final year or at some point his agent will just go dark. Then he either gets franchise tag money or the rare riches of a starting NFL QB hitting UFA status, the path that earned Kirk Cousins $300m.

Agreed...also, Shanny is one of the top offensive minds in the NFL...he has had Purdy for 3 years...he knows what he is and whether he's his QB of the future (i.e. he doesn't need more time to evaluate)...if you are going to sign him you do it now or the price-tag will just go up and if he has an MVP-caliber season next year it could be by quite a lot.

Yep, QB salaries are not going to regress anytime soon. $60m might seem like an eye watering amount now but in a year (or two?) when Stroud is talking about $70+ million, maybe the $60ish for Purdy the year before doesn’t look as unpalatable.

If the Texans give Stroud that, they are insane. Would much rather have Purdy and I don't SF should pay him 55 million a year.

Agreed. His regression is alarming. Seems to be getting worse with every passing week.

 

[Faust]

49ers motivated to get Brock Purdy's extension done quickly

 

[Kiddnets]

49ers motivated to get Brock Purdy's extension done quickly

After reading those love filled quotes from the HC and GM to Purdy Im pretty confident that he's getting locked up. Id buy low for next year if there is a dip

 

[Terpman22]

49ers motivated to get Brock Purdy's extension done quickly

After reading those love filled quotes from the HC and GM to Purdy Im pretty confident that he's getting locked up. Id buy low for next year if there is a dip

What is the floor on his annual salary. 50?

 

[Kiddnets]

49ers motivated to get Brock Purdy's extension done quickly

After reading those love filled quotes from the HC and GM to Purdy Im pretty confident that he's getting locked up. Id buy low for next year if there is a dip

What is the floor on his annual salary. 50?

Id be guessing but I cant see less than $50M

 

[Terpman22]

49ers motivated to get Brock Purdy's extension done quickly

After reading those love filled quotes from the HC and GM to Purdy Im pretty confident that he's getting locked up. Id buy low for next year if there is a dip

What is the floor on his annual salary. 50?

Id be guessing but I cant see less than $50M

Yeah. Looks like the franchise tag is gonna be like $41M, so makes sense.

 

[Snotbubbles]

49ers motivated to get Brock Purdy's extension done quickly

After reading those love filled quotes from the HC and GM to Purdy Im pretty confident that he's getting locked up. Id buy low for next year if there is a dip

What is the floor on his annual salary. 50?

Id be guessing but I cant see less than $50M

Yeah. Looks like the franchise tag is gonna be like $41M, so makes sense.

I'd say $53M is the floor.

AAVs of guys who signed in 2024
Dak Prescott - $60M
Trevor Lawrence - $55M
Jordan Love - $55M
Tua Tagovailoa - $53.1M
Jared Goff - $53M

Then you got guys like: Kirk Cousins ($45M) and Baker Mayfield ($33.3M)

 

[drummer]

Talk about cooked.

He couldn't even finish this game where he threw the game away in the second half.

But you always give up when you're never in front.

This Purdy hate is lame and not even well thought out.

Consider the source, that guy is just a hater thar posts nothing but nonsense.

Since I have posted on this forum, I have been more right than wrong, like Trent Baalke. I realize I can't enlighten people like you whose sole football existence adheres to an ancient old legacy forum, but here is Drew "Why Your Teams Sucks" Magary:

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-case-for-not-extending-brock-purdy-20012192.php

"This post is not a referendum on whether 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy is good. There’s nothing more tiresome than an “Is X QB actually good?” argument, especially one that centers around a tiny-*** white dude who was only drafted by the skin of his teeth. Brock Purdy is a good quarterback, even if a few dedicated haters wish he weren’t. I can make the numbers case easily, given that Purdy currently ranks ninth in PFF’s QB metrics (above the likes of Jared Goff and Jordan Love) and given that he set team records by posting over 4,000 yards and 30 passing touchdowns just a season ago. As for the eye test, you saw the guy nearly win the Super Bowl last February, which is something that doesn’t happen for the Nathan Petermans of this world."

"So this isn’t about whether Brock Purdy is good. It’s about whether he’s good enough."

It's been clear since I have posted here with you that you have no capability when it comes to discussing or debating 49ers footabll, or football in general. Because you lack the skill. We all would like to read in your own words why a "tiny *** white QB" which nobody really says about Baker Mayfield who threw 41 TDs with a team Brock Purdy wtih, I mean I am going to ask for the sake of this blessed forum for you to tell everyone here how Purdy would be able to do that. FFS, you live in Tampa.

Explain yourself.

Edit: of all the other tiny QB like Purdy in the NFL, Pudry is the least athletic, and has like no zip on his throws which he has a mid arm if best. He's a scheme guy. He's tiny. But him where Chase Young is on Carolina, and get back to us.

Edit 2: Just for the lulz when it comes to a Justin Herbert: I'd love to see Harbaugh with Purdy in a Greg Roman offense. Just so he would draft another Colin Kaepernick in the second round.