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Stunning.
If we go back to last off season, Cam only wanted to be a starter. I guess if he went to PIT to potentially take over for Big Ben that would have been a potential landing spot. But 31 teams passed on him last year when he was willing to sign for the league minimum.
I sincerely doubt, after their performances last year, that either fan base is pining for Cam/Minshew. Also, when you make your first-round rookie QB the week 1 starter, you're saying that you're going to stick with him through thick and thin. Zero chance either of those guys get benched this year.
If they sign him before Week 1 his salary for the entire year becomes guaranteed because he is a vested veteran. Would Houston do that? Seems unlikely. His non-vaccinated status also makes it more difficult for teams that would want to get him in quickly to learn the system and get prepared.
I think its so you don't have a situation like last year with the Dolphins. Once you draft and make Jones the starter you can't go back and demote him. You don't want him looking over his shoulder or the rest of the team wanting Newton in every time Jones has a bad game.
Jones isn't that fragile that it'd bother him though, and I honestly don't think BB would care about that. I mean Hoyer's a vet too; no matter what if Jones plays poorly someone will be waiting in the wings.
I was not a fan of Cam, but over the past 3 seasons, for QBs that played in at least 30 game, he ranked as the #17 fantasy QB. He ranked higher than Stafford, Rivers, and Carr.
Yeah it's kind of funny that on the one hand people are talking about how cold blooded Belichick is, and on the other hand people seem to think that he's so concerned with his QB's fragile ego that he can't keep a viable backup on the roster. (It's even more ridiculous to think that's what's going on in Jacksonville. I'm sure Trevor Lawrence has a lot of things on his mind right now, but the specter of Gardner Freakin' Minshew is not one of them.)
OK, now do the Steelers, Cowboys and Ravens. All three are legit playoff contenders. Two of them have had recent seasons tanked because of season-ending injuries to their QB1s which caused them to rely on atrocious backups. And yet they are relying on Dwayne Haskins, Cooper Rush and Tyler Huntley, respectively, as their backups this year. The Colts, another contender who know all about losing their QB1, backed up their injury-prone, question-mark QB1 with Jacob Eason. Oh, and the Jets, who obviously don't have playoff aspirations but do have a raw rookie QB who could probably use some mentoring, have Mike White (no, not the creator of "White Lotus").
Cam sucks. Dalton is better than he is, and Dallas only won 6 games last year without Dak. How many do they win with Cam instead, 5? No friggin way do they even sniff the playoffs with him starting, so why bother?
If Mike Nolan didn’t suck so horrifically bad they Cowboys would have won the division walking away last year, even with the red :lipstick: at the helm.
ignatiusjreilly said:
I wasn't making the case for Dallas or anyone else to sign Cam. Just saying that it was weird so many teams are punting on their QB2. A few posters (don't think you were one of them) suggested it was to avoid the distraction of a QB controversy, and I said I didn't think that made any sense at all.humpback said:
Nick Foles says hi.humpback said:
I don't think it's weird at all. Again, teams only have so much money they can spend, the more they allocate to a player they hope never sees the field the less they'll have to allocate towards players who will see the field for them. You also have other considerations, like off field issues/distractions, vaccination status, leadership, personality (willing to be a back-up/mentor), etc.
I think its a great idea. But given they are rolling with Tyrod, it looks like they are trying to scrape together what wins they can (3?) by playing small ball on offense and playing defense in a phone booth. Philosophically speaking, Tyrod and Cam are THE two ends of the spectrum. Cam would certainly fill more seats, and I think give them a few incremental wins, but I don't think Houston will be able to reason all this out.
oopsie. 
