Kind of like Peyton Manning's statement to Bill Polian when he told the Colts, and I paraphrase, “If You Don't Draft Me, I Promise To Come Back And Kick Your A** the next 15 years.".
Cam Ward is no Peyton ManningKind of like Peyton Manning's statement to Bill Polian when he told the Colts, and I paraphrase, “If You Don't Draft Me, I Promise To Come Back And Kick Your A** the next 15 years.".
I inow that for sure, but just making the correlation with what Manning said to Polian if he didn't draft him. I thought it was interesting.Cam Ward is no Peyton ManningKind of like Peyton Manning's statement to Bill Polian when he told the Colts, and I paraphrase, “If You Don't Draft Me, I Promise To Come Back And Kick Your A** the next 15 years.".
I agree, and your point is well-taken. I was being a bit snarky, but it was all meant in fun.I inow that for sure, but just making the correlation with what Manning said to Polian if he didn't draft him. I thought it was interesting.Cam Ward is no Peyton ManningKind of like Peyton Manning's statement to Bill Polian when he told the Colts, and I paraphrase, “If You Don't Draft Me, I Promise To Come Back And Kick Your A** the next 15 years.".
Caveat: I haven't seen him play. The description fits Jameis Winston to a T.
Better for fantasy than real life ?Caveat: I haven't seen him play. The description fits Jameis Winston to a T.
Medium Ben (Big Ben, but smaller) is a comparison I like.Caveat: I haven't seen him play. The description fits Jameis Winston to a T.
I think that player exists, and his name is Dak Prescott.Medium Ben (Big Ben, but smaller) is a comparison I like.Caveat: I haven't seen him play. The description fits Jameis Winston to a T.
Except Dak can't win the big oneI think that player exists, and his name is Dak Prescott.Medium Ben (Big Ben, but smaller) is a comparison I like.Caveat: I haven't seen him play. The description fits Jameis Winston to a T.
yes, a disaster they have had to live with. pretty sure they ruined Danny Dimes by putting him in a situation with no good O line. Hopefully they dont repeat the same dumb mistake.... but I have little faith. they probably will do it again.Giants drafted six so they did not have a shot at Daniels/Maye without trading up. They did pass on Penix, McCarthy, and Nix however. I agree with your thoughts on this years strategy. You dig the hole deeper by reaching. That franchise is in a rough spot to turnaround as they have so many needs. Taking a young questionable QB early without a decent oline is a recipe for continued disaster.Let's say Ward and Sanders fall to the Giants at #3, or just one, I'm thinking their best move would be to take BPA at #3, sign one of top veteran QBs, then draft a developmental QB at #34. The reason I say this is that you could have a situation where if neither the Titans and the Browns feel the top two QBs in this draft aren't worthy of those top two picks and the Giants may feel that way too. They took Nabetrs last year over Daniels and Maye and some may feel they might reach this year beause they passed on those two last year, but they could feel that neither Ward or Sanders are anywhere near Daniels or Maye in value. That's why I say take BPA at #3, sign a veteran QB, and see if they can work with a developmental QB at #34. They could probably get someone like a Jaxon Dart or Jalen Milroe. Thoughts?
I personally feel building the trenches first on both lines is the best method for rebuilding, but what do I know. I know that doesn’t work for every draft, or free agency. I remember the Colts drafting Marvin Harrison with the 19th pick of 1996 draft, then tackle Tarik Glenn with their 1st (19) in 1997, and Peyton Manning with the 1st overall pick in 1998. Pretty good foundation. So you don’t have to have a top 3 pick every year to rebuild. The Colts took Edgerrin James with the 4th overall pick in 1999. That’s 3 HOF’ers in 4 years and an all pro tackle. Then took Reggie Wayne, who will probably be a HOF’er, in the 2001 draft with pick 30. Then got Dewight Freeney with pick 11 in the 2002 draft. Then Dallas Clark in the 2003 draft with pick 24. Then Bob Sanders with the 44th pick in the 2004 draft. That’s some good drafting, but they did struggle defensively, even the year they won the Super Bowl. Bill Polian was a genius. Hiring Tony Dungy wasn’t bad either.yes, a disaster they have had to live with. pretty sure they ruined Danny Dimes by putting him in a situation with no good O line. Hopefully they dont repeat the same dumb mistake.... but I have little faith. they probably will do it again.Giants drafted six so they did not have a shot at Daniels/Maye without trading up. They did pass on Penix, McCarthy, and Nix however. I agree with your thoughts on this years strategy. You dig the hole deeper by reaching. That franchise is in a rough spot to turnaround as they have so many needs. Taking a young questionable QB early without a decent oline is a recipe for continued disaster.Let's say Ward and Sanders fall to the Giants at #3, or just one, I'm thinking their best move would be to take BPA at #3, sign one of top veteran QBs, then draft a developmental QB at #34. The reason I say this is that you could have a situation where if neither the Titans and the Browns feel the top two QBs in this draft aren't worthy of those top two picks and the Giants may feel that way too. They took Nabetrs last year over Daniels and Maye and some may feel they might reach this year beause they passed on those two last year, but they could feel that neither Ward or Sanders are anywhere near Daniels or Maye in value. That's why I say take BPA at #3, sign a veteran QB, and see if they can work with a developmental QB at #34. They could probably get someone like a Jaxon Dart or Jalen Milroe. Thoughts?
I personally feel building the trenches first on both lines is the best method for rebuilding, but what do I know. I know that doesn’t work for every draft, or free agency. I remember the Colts drafting Marvin Harrison with the 19th pick of 1996 draft, then tackle Tarik Glenn with their 1st (19) in 1997, and Peyton Manning with the 1st overall pick in 1998. Pretty good foundation. So you don’t have to have a top 3 pick every year to rebuild. The Colts took Edgerrin James with the 4th overall pick in 1999. That’s 3 HOF’ers in 4 years and an all pro tackle. Then took Reggie Wayne, who will probably be a HOF’er, in the 2001 draft with pick 30. Then got Dewight Freeney with pick 11 in the 2002 draft. Then Dallas Clark in the 2003 draft with pick 24. Then Bob Sanders with the 44th pick in the 2004 draft. That’s some good drafting, but they did struggle defensively, even the year they won the Super Bowl. Bill Polian was a genius. Hiring Tony Dungy wasn’t bad either.yes, a disaster they have had to live with. pretty sure they ruined Danny Dimes by putting him in a situation with no good O line. Hopefully they dont repeat the same dumb mistake.... but I have little faith. they probably will do it again.Giants drafted six so they did not have a shot at Daniels/Maye without trading up. They did pass on Penix, McCarthy, and Nix however. I agree with your thoughts on this years strategy. You dig the hole deeper by reaching. That franchise is in a rough spot to turnaround as they have so many needs. Taking a young questionable QB early without a decent oline is a recipe for continued disaster.Let's say Ward and Sanders fall to the Giants at #3, or just one, I'm thinking their best move would be to take BPA at #3, sign one of top veteran QBs, then draft a developmental QB at #34. The reason I say this is that you could have a situation where if neither the Titans and the Browns feel the top two QBs in this draft aren't worthy of those top two picks and the Giants may feel that way too. They took Nabetrs last year over Daniels and Maye and some may feel they might reach this year beause they passed on those two last year, but they could feel that neither Ward or Sanders are anywhere near Daniels or Maye in value. That's why I say take BPA at #3, sign a veteran QB, and see if they can work with a developmental QB at #34. They could probably get someone like a Jaxon Dart or Jalen Milroe. Thoughts?
The moral to the story is having a good GM and some luck. For as much crap that people give Jim Irsay, he looked pretty good in his hires back then and was instrumental in drafting Manning over Ryan Leaf when it wasn’t so cut and dry. There was a lot of people who favored Leaf.
you are right. but they got lucky enough to draft Peyton manning, who is arguably a generational talent.I personally feel building the trenches first on both lines is the best method for rebuilding, but what do I know. I know that doesn’t work for every draft, or free agency. I remember the Colts drafting Marvin Harrison with the 19th pick of 1996 draft, then tackle Tarik Glenn with their 1st (19) in 1997, and Peyton Manning with the 1st overall pick in 1998. Pretty good foundation. So you don’t have to have a top 3 pick every year to rebuild. The Colts took Edgerrin James with the 4th overall pick in 1999. That’s 3 HOF’ers in 4 years and an all pro tackle. Then took Reggie Wayne, who will probably be a HOF’er, in the 2001 draft with pick 30. Then got Dewight Freeney with pick 11 in the 2002 draft. Then Dallas Clark in the 2003 draft with pick 24. Then Bob Sanders with the 44th pick in the 2004 draft. That’s some good drafting, but they did struggle defensively, even the year they won the Super Bowl. Bill Polian was a genius. Hiring Tony Dungy wasn’t bad either.yes, a disaster they have had to live with. pretty sure they ruined Danny Dimes by putting him in a situation with no good O line. Hopefully they dont repeat the same dumb mistake.... but I have little faith. they probably will do it again.Giants drafted six so they did not have a shot at Daniels/Maye without trading up. They did pass on Penix, McCarthy, and Nix however. I agree with your thoughts on this years strategy. You dig the hole deeper by reaching. That franchise is in a rough spot to turnaround as they have so many needs. Taking a young questionable QB early without a decent oline is a recipe for continued disaster.Let's say Ward and Sanders fall to the Giants at #3, or just one, I'm thinking their best move would be to take BPA at #3, sign one of top veteran QBs, then draft a developmental QB at #34. The reason I say this is that you could have a situation where if neither the Titans and the Browns feel the top two QBs in this draft aren't worthy of those top two picks and the Giants may feel that way too. They took Nabetrs last year over Daniels and Maye and some may feel they might reach this year beause they passed on those two last year, but they could feel that neither Ward or Sanders are anywhere near Daniels or Maye in value. That's why I say take BPA at #3, sign a veteran QB, and see if they can work with a developmental QB at #34. They could probably get someone like a Jaxon Dart or Jalen Milroe. Thoughts?
The moral to the story is having a good GM and some luck. For as much crap that people give Jim Irsay, he looked pretty good in his hires back then and was instrumental in drafting Manning over Ryan Leaf when it wasn’t so cut and dry. There was a lot of people who favored Leaf.
There's more to a rebuild than the QB, albetit that is the most important position. My post showed what the Colts did in the draft over a 9 year period and hit on all their first round picks except one (Rob Morris 2000), and one that was a 2nd round pick Bob Sanders at #44 in 2004. I didn't even look at any other 2nd round picks from 1996 - 2003.you are right. but they got lucky enough to draft Peyton manning, who is arguably a generational talent.I personally feel building the trenches first on both lines is the best method for rebuilding, but what do I know. I know that doesn’t work for every draft, or free agency. I remember the Colts drafting Marvin Harrison with the 19th pick of 1996 draft, then tackle Tarik Glenn with their 1st (19) in 1997, and Peyton Manning with the 1st overall pick in 1998. Pretty good foundation. So you don’t have to have a top 3 pick every year to rebuild. The Colts took Edgerrin James with the 4th overall pick in 1999. That’s 3 HOF’ers in 4 years and an all pro tackle. Then took Reggie Wayne, who will probably be a HOF’er, in the 2001 draft with pick 30. Then got Dewight Freeney with pick 11 in the 2002 draft. Then Dallas Clark in the 2003 draft with pick 24. Then Bob Sanders with the 44th pick in the 2004 draft. That’s some good drafting, but they did struggle defensively, even the year they won the Super Bowl. Bill Polian was a genius. Hiring Tony Dungy wasn’t bad either.yes, a disaster they have had to live with. pretty sure they ruined Danny Dimes by putting him in a situation with no good O line. Hopefully they dont repeat the same dumb mistake.... but I have little faith. they probably will do it again.Giants drafted six so they did not have a shot at Daniels/Maye without trading up. They did pass on Penix, McCarthy, and Nix however. I agree with your thoughts on this years strategy. You dig the hole deeper by reaching. That franchise is in a rough spot to turnaround as they have so many needs. Taking a young questionable QB early without a decent oline is a recipe for continued disaster.Let's say Ward and Sanders fall to the Giants at #3, or just one, I'm thinking their best move would be to take BPA at #3, sign one of top veteran QBs, then draft a developmental QB at #34. The reason I say this is that you could have a situation where if neither the Titans and the Browns feel the top two QBs in this draft aren't worthy of those top two picks and the Giants may feel that way too. They took Nabetrs last year over Daniels and Maye and some may feel they might reach this year beause they passed on those two last year, but they could feel that neither Ward or Sanders are anywhere near Daniels or Maye in value. That's why I say take BPA at #3, sign a veteran QB, and see if they can work with a developmental QB at #34. They could probably get someone like a Jaxon Dart or Jalen Milroe. Thoughts?
The moral to the story is having a good GM and some luck. For as much crap that people give Jim Irsay, he looked pretty good in his hires back then and was instrumental in drafting Manning over Ryan Leaf when it wasn’t so cut and dry. There was a lot of people who favored Leaf.
his release was so fast that a bad o line rarely affected him. a trait he shares with Jayden Daniels. and his accuracy was second to none.
agreed. if you hit on nearly every first round pick you will be a playoff team.There's more to a rebuild than the QB, albetit that is the most important position. My post showed what the Colts did in the draft over a 9 year period and hit on all their first round picks except one (Rob Morris 2000), and one that was a 2nd round pick Bob Sanders at #44 in 2004. I didn't even look at any other 2nd round picks from 1996 - 2003.you are right. but they got lucky enough to draft Peyton manning, who is arguably a generational talent.I personally feel building the trenches first on both lines is the best method for rebuilding, but what do I know. I know that doesn’t work for every draft, or free agency. I remember the Colts drafting Marvin Harrison with the 19th pick of 1996 draft, then tackle Tarik Glenn with their 1st (19) in 1997, and Peyton Manning with the 1st overall pick in 1998. Pretty good foundation. So you don’t have to have a top 3 pick every year to rebuild. The Colts took Edgerrin James with the 4th overall pick in 1999. That’s 3 HOF’ers in 4 years and an all pro tackle. Then took Reggie Wayne, who will probably be a HOF’er, in the 2001 draft with pick 30. Then got Dewight Freeney with pick 11 in the 2002 draft. Then Dallas Clark in the 2003 draft with pick 24. Then Bob Sanders with the 44th pick in the 2004 draft. That’s some good drafting, but they did struggle defensively, even the year they won the Super Bowl. Bill Polian was a genius. Hiring Tony Dungy wasn’t bad either.yes, a disaster they have had to live with. pretty sure they ruined Danny Dimes by putting him in a situation with no good O line. Hopefully they dont repeat the same dumb mistake.... but I have little faith. they probably will do it again.Giants drafted six so they did not have a shot at Daniels/Maye without trading up. They did pass on Penix, McCarthy, and Nix however. I agree with your thoughts on this years strategy. You dig the hole deeper by reaching. That franchise is in a rough spot to turnaround as they have so many needs. Taking a young questionable QB early without a decent oline is a recipe for continued disaster.Let's say Ward and Sanders fall to the Giants at #3, or just one, I'm thinking their best move would be to take BPA at #3, sign one of top veteran QBs, then draft a developmental QB at #34. The reason I say this is that you could have a situation where if neither the Titans and the Browns feel the top two QBs in this draft aren't worthy of those top two picks and the Giants may feel that way too. They took Nabetrs last year over Daniels and Maye and some may feel they might reach this year beause they passed on those two last year, but they could feel that neither Ward or Sanders are anywhere near Daniels or Maye in value. That's why I say take BPA at #3, sign a veteran QB, and see if they can work with a developmental QB at #34. They could probably get someone like a Jaxon Dart or Jalen Milroe. Thoughts?
The moral to the story is having a good GM and some luck. For as much crap that people give Jim Irsay, he looked pretty good in his hires back then and was instrumental in drafting Manning over Ryan Leaf when it wasn’t so cut and dry. There was a lot of people who favored Leaf.
his release was so fast that a bad o line rarely affected him. a trait he shares with Jayden Daniels. and his accuracy was second to none.
They said the same about Stafford and a bunch of other QBs (and coaches).Except Dak can't win the big oneI think that player exists, and his name is Dak Prescott.Medium Ben (Big Ben, but smaller) is a comparison I like.Caveat: I haven't seen him play. The description fits Jameis Winston to a T.
NFL Rookie Watch
Cam Ward's release speed is something ELSE.
Darrell Colbert (Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders' trainer) said he believes Ward has the "fastest release" in FOOTBALL.
Several NFL scouts are reportedly "mesmerized" by how unorthodox, yet elite Ward's playstyle as a QB is.
"He's Ben Roethlisberger, but he's not. He's Caleb Williams, but he's not. His playstyle is so different from anything I've ever evaluated." - Anonymous NFC scout.
Ward is currently the favorite to be the 1st overall pick in the draft![]()
The Dominique Foxworth Show
“I think (Cam Ward) is being severely underrated in this draft class. I have him ahead of JJ McCarthy if he was in this draft class.” – @Jordan_Reid explains why he has Ward ahead of Shedeur Sanders and explains where the Miami QB would have been drafted in last year's class.
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First Take
“This guy is the ultimate consummate leader. … He is very confident in the work that he has put in, and he should be.”
@LRiddickESPN says Cam Ward is "worthy" of being the No. 1 overall pick in the 2025 NFL draft![]()
Field Yates
Miami QB Cam Ward is electing not to throw at the combine.
I get it, but would rather see a guy go out and compete when given the opportunity.Field Yates
Miami QB Cam Ward is electing not to throw at the combine.
Lindsay Rhodes
As I leave Indy...a thread of my takeaways:
1. Cam Ward is more highly regarded than I previously thought.
People I talked to, rattled off- comfortably- quite a few things they liked about him as a prospect.
I wouldn't be surprised if he went #1.
Ward's top ceiling is probably Tua and that isn't a compliment when talking long term dynasty value IMO.
Kurt Benkert
I just broke down Cam Ward’s tape.
He’s my early #1 overall pick.
He can make every throw on the field with ease, from multiple arm angles, and with multiple trajectories to the same spots.
Not to mention, he’s extremely polished in terms of timing his throws and his accuracy is out of this world.
Truthfully, I haven’t seen many other quarterbacks coming out that seem to be able to teleport the ball to the exact spot they want to go to as consistently as he does.
Add to this, his poise in the pocket and overall awareness + his stature being able to shrug off tackles… he’s special.
Whoever decides to draft him is going to get a franchise turnaround player.
After leaving the combine, it is clear that every NFL team now has Cam Ward as QB1, and it’s not close.
The new battle is over who is QB2 between Jaxson Dart and Shedeur Sanders.
@SportsCenter
“Whenever Miami needed him to make a play he was able to do that, and there’s always a sense of hope with Cam Ward in games.”
—@Jordan_Reid backs Cam Ward as the potential No. 1 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.
Mac Jones over anyone except Pickett hmm not sure. But either way that’s not great for Ward
A lot of big whiffs on this list - not sure how much stock I'd put into it. It goes to show what a crap shoot the draft is - I think Ward and Sanders get selected in the first few picks regardless. And if Ward ends up somewhere in the neighborhood of Jordan Love, Bo Nix and Michael Penix, that might not be such a terrible thing.ESPN poll of scouts, decision-makers and analysts to get consensus ranking 1st round QBs of the last 5 drafts including this year's top two, Sanders and Ward. Pre-draft ranking only:
1 Caleb Williams
2 Trevor Lawrence
3 Joe Burrow
4 Jayden Daniels
5 Drake Maye
6 Tua Tagovailoa
7 Justin Herbert
8 Bryce Young
9 Zach Wilson
10 CJ Stroud
11 JJ McCarthy
12 Trey Lance
13 Anthony Richardson
14 Justin Fields
15 Mac Jones
16 Jordan Love
17 Bo Nix
18 Cam Ward
19 Michael Penix Jr
20 Shedeur Sanders
21 Kenny Picket
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.@Jordan_Reid
"Cam Ward was in last year's draft class he would have been the fourth quarterback off the board"
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.@Jordan_Reid says Cam Ward would be a good fit for the New York Giants
“The Giants have a huge need at quarterback. … I believe Cam Ward is far and away the best quarterback in this year’s draft.”
Little too confident in his own abilitiesI have not had a chance to see this guy play outside of highlights, what are his potential negatives?
Mac leaving college was seen to be a competent starting QB. Not elite, but maybe what most see Brock Purdy as now.Mac Jones over anyone except Pickett hmm not sure. But either way that’s not great for Ward
He made a few bad decisions, some off balance throws. He also kept the ball at times too long while scrambling leading to fumbles. But he made a ton of big time throws from the pocket and while scrambling, elevating talented players like Restrepo and Arroyo to another level. His arm talent and improvisational skills are upper echelon. PFF graded him #1 in anticipatory throws between the numbers, which is something hard to teach. He had the benefit of a good oline recruited by coach Diaz, and very good skill players that the 2023 QBs couldn't connect with.Little too confident in his own abilitiesI have not had a chance to see this guy play outside of highlights, what are his potential negatives?
Got away with throwing passes that he won't be able to execute in the NFL
Fire away, I watched every one of his games last season at Miami
We saw Jameis up close last year. Ward sounds like a carbon copy to me. Big arm, big talent, likes "hero ball". Am I wrong?Little too confident in his own abilitiesI have not had a chance to see this guy play outside of highlights, what are his potential negatives?
Got away with throwing passes that he won't be able to execute in the NFL
Fire away, I watched every one of his games last season at Miami
If so, that would be good for fantasy productionWe saw Jameis up close last year. Ward sounds like a carbon copy to me. Big arm, big talent, likes "hero ball". Am I wrong?Little too confident in his own abilitiesI have not had a chance to see this guy play outside of highlights, what are his potential negatives?
Got away with throwing passes that he won't be able to execute in the NFL
Fire away, I watched every one of his games last season at Miami
Nate Tice
Cam Ward really unlocks RPOs and quick game concepts with his quick motion and willingness to throw off-platform. He's able to consistently throw accurately and negate free runners by throwing around defenders.
I do absolutely believe that Kyle wanted to draft Mac with pick 3 when he traded up for the pick and then got talked out of it by Lynch and others.Mac leaving college was seen to be a competent starting QB. Not elite, but maybe what most see Brock Purdy as now.Mac Jones over anyone except Pickett hmm not sure. But either way that’s not great for Ward
Penix being below him is weird imo.