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QB Cam Ward, TEN (2 Viewers)
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Cam's passing chart
Some different radio discussion today has been how the Titans have to work the middle of the field.
"Time on task" as McCourty said it was what I've been saying really.
(He's got plenty of other thoughts in video...me rambling here)
They have to help Cam til Lockett, Dike, and Elic are more in sync.
Oliver and Van were there since day one and there's a clear rapport. If they're pushing the rookies ya can't forget Cam. They have to sprinkle in those he played most with. If we can see it, then how's Cam feel? Plus is he taking longer? Audibling differently? There needs to be some sorta subbing to help him
@TDavenport_NFL
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In Wk 1 vs the Broncos, Cam Ward targeted WRs downfield (10+ air yds) on 42.9% of his attempts, the 7th-highest rate among QBs in Wk 1. Ward completed just 1 of his 12 downfield attempts (8.3%) for 16 yards. Ward fared better targeting receivers under 10 air yds, completing 11 of his 13 attempts (84.6%) for 96 yds, and 7.4 yds per attempt.
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In Wk 1 vs the Broncos, Cam Ward targeted WRs downfield (10+ air yds) on 42.9% of his attempts, the 7th-highest rate among QBs in Wk 1. Ward completed just 1 of his 12 downfield attempts (8.3%) for 16 yards. Ward fared better targeting receivers under 10 air yds, completing 11 of his 13 attempts (84.6%) for 96 yds, and 7.4 yds per attempt.
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This is atrocious.
Rrrreally badly want Oliver in today but it appears he won't be. His exceptional my ball mentality is contagious and they really need that to permeate. If he was gonna be faded, it should have been further into the season.
Gunnar can get this rolling too so I'd like to see him involved early and maybe he rips one away from a DB.
Elic can and does but he played a bit timid.
Ya know that dopey "I messed up" smile teenagers have? Ridley had that last week and it irritates me to see that in a grown man. Elic was all smiley after two non catches.
None of them are good enough to be all cute and there's no way Cam's downfield throws have those stats if they're getting after it.
Ridley is an elite athlete and blessed for sure and a big influence. Watch him, watch the others.
Cam's passes are not way off that those stats should ever happen.
No one is playing T-ball and running the wrong way as Dad cheers anyway
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Really hoping to avoid another drop-fest. I could use a good FF week from Cam & Ridley (same league)
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The horizontal distance between Cam Ward and Elic Ayomanor from pass to catch was 30.4 yards, the longest such distance on a touchdown pass on the run (8+ mph) in the Next Gen Stats era (since 2016).
Ward Speed: 11.03 mph
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The improbability of this exemplifies what I've been harping on.Next Gen Stats
The horizontal distance between Cam Ward and Elic Ayomanor from pass to catch was 30.4 yards, the longest such distance on a touchdown pass on the run (8+ mph) in the Next Gen Stats era (since 2016).
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Just play the guys Ward is used to- at least some. He clicked with Oliver day one, Ridley took just a bit, Van was early too. (Gunnar)
Elic was later but it doesn't matter. They see eye to eye.
No WR in the NFL is still running that route except for the guys above. QB takes off running right, he's running.
Elic knew!
Brandon Allen and ordinary QBs maybe it's not a big deal but it's huge with a playmaker free style guy.
He can get comfy with Dike and Lockett and things can develop but for now they have to give him the guys he can win with in the playground.
And Ridley isn't the same guy as the summer. He's not trying for every catch and coming back for it and he doesn't look like Cam's buddy anymore. He's always been this way. Camp Ridley is awesome. Regular season Ridley is meh.
Give Cam his weapons
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From zero to three passes over the middle.
They need more. Slight improvement
They need more. Slight improvement
CBS has a wrong stat going around. It's nitpicky. Cam has been sacked a ton, just not the most
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Cam Ward has been sacked 11 times through his first two career games, tied for fifth-most since at least 1970, per
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research:
David Carr/David Norrie: 15
David Klinger: 14
Archie Manning: 13
Cam Ward/Greg McElroy/Steve Young/Spencer Rattler/CJ Stroud: 11
benyarthur
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Cam Ward has been sacked 11 times through his first two career games, tied for fifth-most since at least 1970, per
@NFLonFOX
research:
David Carr/David Norrie: 15
David Klinger: 14
Archie Manning: 13
Cam Ward/Greg McElroy/Steve Young/Spencer Rattler/CJ Stroud: 11
Visual representation
Everyone quit except the guy who is in sync with him
Matt Stafford impressed by Cam and the Titans defense
Yesterday was how Cam did run backwards a good ways on his great pass for a TD.
I thought they were coaching that out of him after the big loss of yards sack week one, is it a concern?
Cam said we practice on grass why don't we play on grass.
It was meh uninteresting
I thought they were coaching that out of him after the big loss of yards sack week one, is it a concern?
Cam said we practice on grass why don't we play on grass.
It was meh uninteresting
During his presser, he asked for/ took all the blame today.
Its a beautiful thing and a sad thing for such a young guy.
Today's presser should be saved and distributed to team leaders for reference.
He said something like- I have to get rid of the ball quicker to help the OL. You see the edge get past them, I see me needing to get it out faster.
He can throw it better. He can work with guys. They can put more time in.
OMG it was so good ...and kinda sad too
Its a beautiful thing and a sad thing for such a young guy.
Today's presser should be saved and distributed to team leaders for reference.
He said something like- I have to get rid of the ball quicker to help the OL. You see the edge get past them, I see me needing to get it out faster.
He can throw it better. He can work with guys. They can put more time in.
OMG it was so good ...and kinda sad too
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Callahan was asked about the screens (which have been awful) and said he thinks Cam's trying to get guys in lanes.
It's definitely Cam's fault those are dopey play calls
As he was guarded to (lie and) not say anything about the trade and only positive about the play caller change, he blamed the rookie everyone adores. What a face plant.
Stick a fork in him
It's definitely Cam's fault those are dopey play calls
As he was guarded to (lie and) not say anything about the trade and only positive about the play caller change, he blamed the rookie everyone adores. What a face plant.
Stick a fork in him
Cam hurt his ankle was my first experience with his new stardom. People asking me why I didn't mention.
He tweaked it and limped for a sec and continued running and moving around and had no limp. It was a sincere nothing moment. It happens every day many times a day at practices.
The outcry...now I see reporters having to explain no brace and not taped up and looks good.
It's kinda interesting really
He tweaked it and limped for a sec and continued running and moving around and had no limp. It was a sincere nothing moment. It happens every day many times a day at practices.
The outcry...now I see reporters having to explain no brace and not taped up and looks good.
It's kinda interesting really
Ya know you're a good team when the starting QB asks when the last time ya won was
Zach had this chart
They're not getting open
Idk why (for like years!) we don't discuss subbing for Titans WRs that don't get open. (Their A.S.S scores also back this up) Four weeks in, I would have played everyone and have been asking CBs if they want a chance.
THere are so many sports that getting open is a vital integral step that must be accomplished. I can't ....it frustrates me to no end
They're not getting open
Idk why (for like years!) we don't discuss subbing for Titans WRs that don't get open. (Their A.S.S scores also back this up) Four weeks in, I would have played everyone and have been asking CBs if they want a chance.
THere are so many sports that getting open is a vital integral step that must be accomplished. I can't ....it frustrates me to no end
Blake Beddingifled wrote a piece about Cam's arm angle and feet being poor.
Jared Stillman took this to YouTube and his Sirius radio show
I personally don't care.
I was raised on the teachings of the ultra strict John Wooden and then people pointing out Michael Jordan, Magic, or Bird did some single thing with improper technique. I think most of the world had the same experience as I. I mean we had what we had on TV and everyone mentioned was such a legend.
I watched Bird lead the NBA in a zillion categories as he shot wrong. I learned to leave the window a crack open for greatness. Others still to this day hammer home the technique and I do know it's beneficial to present that as a coach- idk that it matters as a fan. It's not like I have a problem with the on air coaching legends either. They're gems too.
Cam Ward hasn't done squat and neither has Jeanty.
Jeanty uses an improper stance and doesn't do well. He rocked in college and now in the NFL with the improper stance.
Ward (while scrambling or stationary and avoiding a pass rusher) can flick the ball sidearm and make it go a zillion yards on target threw two defenders.
I think these are two- leave Bird alone- techniques. The results are wow and are we seeing the forest for the trees? Isn't the goal to have great results? Because they've already got that
Jared Stillman took this to YouTube and his Sirius radio show
I personally don't care.
I was raised on the teachings of the ultra strict John Wooden and then people pointing out Michael Jordan, Magic, or Bird did some single thing with improper technique. I think most of the world had the same experience as I. I mean we had what we had on TV and everyone mentioned was such a legend.
I watched Bird lead the NBA in a zillion categories as he shot wrong. I learned to leave the window a crack open for greatness. Others still to this day hammer home the technique and I do know it's beneficial to present that as a coach- idk that it matters as a fan. It's not like I have a problem with the on air coaching legends either. They're gems too.
Cam Ward hasn't done squat and neither has Jeanty.
Jeanty uses an improper stance and doesn't do well. He rocked in college and now in the NFL with the improper stance.
Ward (while scrambling or stationary and avoiding a pass rusher) can flick the ball sidearm and make it go a zillion yards on target threw two defenders.
I think these are two- leave Bird alone- techniques. The results are wow and are we seeing the forest for the trees? Isn't the goal to have great results? Because they've already got that
Yesterday discussion was of Ridley and him not in sync and late last night I was on game pass or NFL+ and holy geesh why play him?
Ridley is adjusting on snap n throws and slants and simple one cut routes. Why? Ya just go and it's there. There is no thinking. This is the easiest of sport things to do, it sets up athleticism versus athleticism which is a challenge but the route itself is beyond easy.
Since the sort isn't good always I saw some Gunnar plays and fell into a rabbit hole of his. He and Ward couldn't be better timed or more in sync. I mean it's just wow. He's pushing, or putting his back into some DB, or shielding with an arm up at the perfect time and Cam turns right then towards him. It's such perfect timing. With absolutely no one getting open, if he plays more or we get closer to the deadline where Chig could be traded, I'm all over Gunnar. It really stands out because everyone stinks but...IDC at least it's something, some well he can go to when no one is open.
Ridley is adjusting on snap n throws and slants and simple one cut routes. Why? Ya just go and it's there. There is no thinking. This is the easiest of sport things to do, it sets up athleticism versus athleticism which is a challenge but the route itself is beyond easy.
Since the sort isn't good always I saw some Gunnar plays and fell into a rabbit hole of his. He and Ward couldn't be better timed or more in sync. I mean it's just wow. He's pushing, or putting his back into some DB, or shielding with an arm up at the perfect time and Cam turns right then towards him. It's such perfect timing. With absolutely no one getting open, if he plays more or we get closer to the deadline where Chig could be traded, I'm all over Gunnar. It really stands out because everyone stinks but...IDC at least it's something, some well he can go to when no one is open.
But he's not stupid about it. Those plays usually look like "what were you thinking." He does it like Mahomes and some old guy years ago- he's scrambling and just he and the defender or he steps up and is sidearm to get it between the two.
When others have done it they're like three four yards back and firing at the line and all dopey looking. This seems sporty sort of adjusting.
I'm sure not going to advocate for a short stop to jump off one foot on the base and fire it to first while reaching out to avoid the base runner, but it's also got a "I see why he's doing that" vibe and makes a nice looking double play.
Levis has me keyed up for stupid throws. I don't think Ward is
I was looking at team RB targets and noticed the Titans dead last with just 9.
On a team with a really good receiving RB, not a lot of good receiving talent in general, where everything downfield has been a struggle and the young QB could really use a few easy completions.
This is an example of coaching malpractice.
On a team with a really good receiving RB, not a lot of good receiving talent in general, where everything downfield has been a struggle and the young QB could really use a few easy completions.
This is an example of coaching malpractice.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Something is weird about the way Cam's ball spins IMO. It seems to have a slight wobble or some sort of tip misalignment as it travels. Look closely to notice, but I wonder if that combined with how hard he throws makes it challenging for some of the receivers to catch balls that aren't placed perfectly, the case with many/most of his throws right now. Dude throws with power. Over time, either he will find more touch or his receivers will adjust, but that could take a while with so much else also going wrong currently. Will be telling how the team rallies around him (including possiblly not at all) after last weekend's comments. I could see it breaking either way, but think the odds are he rallies them this weekend and well beyond. Let's see.
The Frankman
Footballguy
... great googly moogly it was an experience watching this game.
Everything I said and guys on radio and tape people said was true and finally finally they had a rhythm late and looked good with first time smiles and fist bumps of 2025.
The middle wasn't utilized and bang it to Gunnar in the post then hit Ridley running up the sideline on a fast break, and have Pollard trailing.
Nicely balanced and Cam was noticably in his element.
Most of the game-
Several plays where he had all day and no one was open
3-4 drops?
Dike open deep, twice, but they're still not in sync.
Announcers pointed out that after an Elic drop, he was eventually looking at an open Lockett and Dike and not throwing it. That point guard was sick of them not making a play off his pass.
Chig was off today. His blocking was bad bad and when he released as the dump guy, he was late. On one over the middle, he wasn't smooth with the shoulder bump go into route technique and he was late.
Ridley was maybe 2 for 6.
It was dreary.
Enormous difference late. Gunnar may need to be this team's Delanie
The middle wasn't utilized and bang it to Gunnar in the post then hit Ridley running up the sideline on a fast break, and have Pollard trailing.
Nicely balanced and Cam was noticably in his element.
Most of the game-
Several plays where he had all day and no one was open
3-4 drops?
Dike open deep, twice, but they're still not in sync.
Announcers pointed out that after an Elic drop, he was eventually looking at an open Lockett and Dike and not throwing it. That point guard was sick of them not making a play off his pass.
Chig was off today. His blocking was bad bad and when he released as the dump guy, he was late. On one over the middle, he wasn't smooth with the shoulder bump go into route technique and he was late.
Ridley was maybe 2 for 6.
It was dreary.
Enormous difference late. Gunnar may need to be this team's Delanie
The good boy had a little hidden message
Yeah it's not right but his stellar reputation can handle it and it's just more "oh we finally have got a guy" vibe
Yeah it's not right but his stellar reputation can handle it and it's just more "oh we finally have got a guy" vibe
Trust and belief in one another coming up in Breers article too
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Maybe Gunnar over Chig came up? Maybe Cam said he wants his boys more? Absolutely no idea and we probably won't know but at the same time- what would Ward and Ridley discuss? That's gotta be a fair guess.
The trust word has been used a ton the last week.
So him not throwing to Lockett and Dike...how does that move forward? The obvious difference in Gunnar (throw anytime) over Chig(must be wide open)?
I missed the GM angle the radio mentioned. Yeah he's filling those spots.
How does Callahan and Hardegree build on this for Ward? Restrepo elevated for a few plays? Spears at WR a little bit? We'll have to see-there are endless possibilities- but I think this is quite significant.
If Callahan can get a spark going here, if Ward can show quick growth...could be a real big week to tweak things
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Maybe Gunnar over Chig came up? Maybe Cam said he wants his boys more? Absolutely no idea and we probably won't know but at the same time- what would Ward and Ridley discuss? That's gotta be a fair guess.
The trust word has been used a ton the last week.
So him not throwing to Lockett and Dike...how does that move forward? The obvious difference in Gunnar (throw anytime) over Chig(must be wide open)?
I missed the GM angle the radio mentioned. Yeah he's filling those spots.
How does Callahan and Hardegree build on this for Ward? Restrepo elevated for a few plays? Spears at WR a little bit? We'll have to see-there are endless possibilities- but I think this is quite significant.
If Callahan can get a spark going here, if Ward can show quick growth...could be a real big week to tweak things
I don't see it on X. Maybe it was somewhere else.
Kurt Warner supposedly said Ward was seeing the field and going through his progressions very nicely with Gunnar at TE late in the game.
I see this
But nothing Titans specific
Anyway, another example how especially noticable the change was
Kurt Warner supposedly said Ward was seeing the field and going through his progressions very nicely with Gunnar at TE late in the game.
I see this
But nothing Titans specific
Anyway, another example how especially noticable the change was
Here's a wonderful breakdown.
He says two missed throws and idk which those were.
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People do not seem to understand how early Ward is chucking it. It's like they think he can wait n wait n wait.
7? minutes in-You can see Arizona switch to worrying about Gunnar and Chig, late it seems they're sure it's going to Elic...nope Ridley.
That working the center of the field opened everything up.
He says two missed throws and idk which those were.
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People do not seem to understand how early Ward is chucking it. It's like they think he can wait n wait n wait.
7? minutes in-You can see Arizona switch to worrying about Gunnar and Chig, late it seems they're sure it's going to Elic...nope Ridley.
That working the center of the field opened everything up.
Cam (with a leading question) said he wants his 2 and 4 minute offense more often.
Callahan said he'd like to utilize that more. He went into the use of the FB and TE in spots and how it's no huddle etc.
They haven't exactly been in games to be winning and/or running this O much.
Still it's another way to say he wants his boys and Callahan (who isn't calling plays) seems in agreement to the switch
Callahan said he'd like to utilize that more. He went into the use of the FB and TE in spots and how it's no huddle etc.
They haven't exactly been in games to be winning and/or running this O much.
Still it's another way to say he wants his boys and Callahan (who isn't calling plays) seems in agreement to the switch
Born to Run
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Just noticed the FBG dynasty ranking have Cam behind JJ and ahead of Penix and Dart. Seems about right.... 
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