Don Hutson
Footballguy
I think people are overestimating how much activism Kaep does in reality. He kneeled. He wears t-shirts. He makes Nike commercials. He did very little real activism to bring on his notoriety.
Yes. Kneeling during the national anthem created a media firestorm that did not help his football team succeed on the field at the game of football. It created a distraction. Whether the distraction was major or minor, it certainly wasn't something in the service of winning football games.Yes. Is there anything that suggests he was not?
People are still kneeling, holding fists in the air etc. no one says a word anymore.Yes. Kneeling during the national anthem created a media firestorm that did not help his football team succeed on the field at the game of football. It created a distraction. Whether the distraction was major or minor, it certainly wasn't something in the service of winning football games.
If I were a GM, I would want to know if that is the kind of thing he intended to do if I hired him. Because as a GM, I would not want to spend my working hours in front of a microphone discussing that with the media, I would want to be scouting players and running the franchise in order to make the team win more football games. I would want my coach discussing football, not politics. I would want my lockerroom thinking about football, not answering questions about politics. Note this has nothing to do with whether his cause is good or bad. This has to do with business. As a GM my business is football. Distracting from football is bad for my business. So if I were to hire someone, I would want them focused on helping my business, not distracting my organization.
Now if you want to play games and pretend none of that is true somehow, thats fine. But it doesnt change the reality. Football is a business. Business people dont want distractions unless they have valuable upside to the business. The fact that WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS proves its a distraction.
Well, he has received awards and accolades for his "activism" and is about a million dollars ahead of most in charitable contributions. The cause he was trying to bring attention to was glossed over in favor of making his peaceful protests to appear anti-American or anti-military... and that's the kind of thing that happens to activists. So I think it is pretty safe to label him as an activist.I think people are overestimating how much activism Kaep does in reality. He kneeled. He wears t-shirts. He makes Nike commercials. He did very little real activism to bring on his notoriety.
None of that is relevant to Kaepernick's situation. If he is making political demonstrations IT WILL be a firestorm of publicity. I'm not here to argue the fairness of that fact. If you're looking to hire him, you will question whether he will be doing lockerroom interviews every week about non football issues. Same for his coach, same with his teammates, same with his GM. It does no matter if he claims he isnt looking for that kind of attention. He's going to get that kind of attention. Do you want that in your franchise?People are still kneeling, holding fists in the air etc. no one says a word anymore.
And we need to remember he never made a public statement about why he was sitting, then kneeling, until asked.
The fact that we're talking about it also proves that it will draw eyeballs and generate money for the league.
If a player was juggling fire on the sidelines, Im sure it would draw a lot of eyeballs.
Harping back on what I already posted, this one is open for debate and interpretation.And he seems to be focused on playing football now too.
So in your opinion he should capitulate entirely. Would you sincerely be satisfied with that? Every other player who wishes may sit, kneel, hold up his hand, which is literally (not figuratively) the only thing Kaepernick did on game day, but not him. Is that a reasonable expectation? It's okay for everyone or it's okay for no-one those are the only reasonable options.Harping back on what I already posted, this one is open for debate and interpretation.
In my world, a player that wants to play would have set up his own pro day two plus years ago. He would have done a lot more to bring on positive publicity. He would have gotten in front of things and said he is done protesting or picking fights with the league. He would have said he would welcome any role and a modest contract.
IMO, a player that wants to play doesn’t get into a coup d’etat with the league over media access, where the pro day will be held, and a waiver. Or wear what Kaep wore and then make a statement to 32 owners afterwards.
But maybe that is just me. So I personally would not conclude based on what transpired that CK is focused on playing football. I would conclude that he is focused on being a distraction and a candidate to initiate additional legal action.
Because the guy made himself a liability to the business that employed him. Which is pretty much what would happen to most people.Because one guy didn't stand during a magic song. The reaction was bizarre, toxic and sadly emblematic of our times.
Way to keep it about football.The defense of this @@@@@@@ in this thread is truly comical. The very few that are should stop the embarrassment. He has no desire to play, he just wants his clown show on display for attention.
Yes because so much of this thread has been about football. Any thread started about him will not be about football. So they should all just be locked.Way to keep it about football.
Defending him from what?The defense of this @@@@@@@ in this thread is truly comical. The very few that are should stop the embarrassment. He has no desire to play, he just wants his clown show on display for attention.
Believe it or not I actually understand your position and, on some level agree with you.The defense of this @@@@@@@ in this thread is truly comical. The very few that are should stop the embarrassment. He has no desire to play, he just wants his clown show on display for attention.
I agree that the perception was Kaepernick is a liability. I think there is a legitimate question as to whether that has changed.Because the guy made himself a liability to the business that employed him. Which is pretty much what would happen to most people.
Only because of posts like yours. You feel the need to spit the regurgitated narrative as if people want to hear it again. Why don't you just not click on any post with his name in it.Yes because so much of this thread has been about football. Any thread started about him will not be about football. So they should all just be locked.
He was away and having a life... the NFL cooked up this facade and brought him back to the stage, so there's that.Colin just needs to go away & get a life
Not disagreeing with your assessment that Kaep took steps to sabotage his audition (mainly because I believe this as well), but it was the NFL's idea for the show... not Kaep's. Taking it a step further I believe the "I WANT TO PLAY FOOTBALL (but not really)" has been the long con going back to his departure from the NFL. In fact wasn't he (reportedly) very close to signing with the Ravens when his girlfriend made a comment about them being slave owners (something along those lines) and blew the whole thing up?No team was going to make him a starting QB offer and he made sure no team was going to make a veteran minimum offer. That was his plan all along.
He wanted to make sure that his little show was going to turn off teams so they didn't offer him a minimum veteran contract. Wearing the shirt he wore, moving the workout at the last minute, making the speech he did. In his warped mind, it gives him the ability to say they are still colluding when in reality he stinks and no one wants a distraction like him. He's got serious mental problems.
Even Jerry Jones sniffed it out and that will tell you how obvious it was.
Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said on “The Fan” KRLD-FM (105.3) Tuesday morning that the Colin Kaepernick workout wasn’t about football, and that it was more a circus than football, Michael Gehlken of the Dallas Morning News reports.
Welcome to the 21st century.I think the vocal minority are the only ones really carrying this torch anymore.
He was away and having a life... the NFL cooked up this facade and brought him back to the stage, so there's that.
So Kaepernick couldnt have said, "No thank you, I'm not interested in playing football?" if thats how he felt?And Tony Dungy is just a respected voice that basically said nobody is, or has, asked Kaep if he wants to play.
As an activist (if you think he is an activist... I think he's an activist), he cannot allow himself NOT to take another moment in a fading spotlight to make himself relevant or to make a statement (hence the T-shirt). It's the life he (and others) have chosen... it's all about "the cause" and the more relevant you are, the more you can help your cause.So Kaepernick couldnt have said, "No thank you, I'm not interested in playing football?" if thats how he felt?
Kaep is a backup. No NFL team is bringing that media circus of a distraction on board to get a backup QB.No team was going to make him a starting QB offer and he made sure no team was going to make a veteran minimum offer. That was his plan all along.
He wanted to make sure that his little show was going to turn off teams so they didn't offer him a minimum veteran contract. Wearing the shirt he wore, moving the workout at the last minute, making the speech he did. In his warped mind, it gives him the ability to say they are still colluding when in reality he stinks and no one wants a distraction like him. He's got serious mental problems.
Even Jerry Jones sniffed it out and that will tell you how obvious it was.
Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said on “The Fan” KRLD-FM (105.3) Tuesday morning that the Colin Kaepernick workout wasn’t about football, and that it was more a circus than football, Michael Gehlken of the Dallas Morning News reports.
Borderline starter is probably a more accurate description. He has a strong arm, can run, and has the second lowest interception rate in NFL history. And in the 3 years since he left, the NFL has gone gaga over mobile quarterbacks who can extend plays with their legs and who can be effective with the run/pass option. Pocket passers are the opposite of what coaches want right now. We'll see if his interest in playing is genuine or not. There are 32 teams. It only takes one to want him.Kaep is a backup. No NFL team is bringing that media circus of a distraction on board to get a backup QB.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, Kaep is essentially a one-trick pony, and I'm talking on the field here.....he has never had good touch on his deep throws.....I mean he's made some throws, but the sample size gets big enough, he fails as a pocket passer.......so I don't think he wants to play at all. Cuz if he plays and fails, which is pretty likely, his whole thing kind of fades away.
My impression of this (and I am all for his right to express himself by kneeling) is that CK is a borderline starter with a limited skill set. See someone like Michael Crabtree with CK throwing to him vs what he was with Carr (who is a marginal starter in his own right). On top of that CK is the worst kind of activist: An activist who protests one thing, but then checks out (voting) or is dreadfully misinformed on other things, but chimes in anyway. Add that to the "Look at me!" way he conducted himself when the Ravens were going to bring him in a few years ago and what happened last weekend, and the truth is it did him no good in the perception of the NFL fan. Court of public opinion, Nike, the "woke" crowd maybe another story (and I'm a liberal)Borderline starter is probably a more accurate description. He has a strong arm, can run, and has the second lowest interception rate in NFL history. And in the 3 years since he left, the NFL has gone gaga over mobile quarterbacks who can extend plays with their legs and who can be effective with the run/pass option. Pocket passers are the opposite of what coaches want right now. We'll see if his interest in playing is genuine or not. There are 32 teams. It only takes one to want him.
I hear what ur saying. I watched him closely in college (University of Nevada season tix) and he was awesome........as a runner.....and occasionally he'd make a big pass, but in the WAC he didn't have to pass much....they ran the crap out of the ball and it set stuff up downfield......I think he got a little better with his mechanics in the NFL, but I was never sold on his passing ability other than he has a strong arm.....I will give you he's a borderline starter, but still who wants that distraction? So far no one does. Ive been thinking someone will be desperate enough.....we'll see.Borderline starter is probably a more accurate description. He has a strong arm, can run, and has the second lowest interception rate in NFL history. And in the 3 years since he left, the NFL has gone gaga over mobile quarterbacks who can extend plays with their legs and who can be effective with the run/pass option. Pocket passers are the opposite of what coaches want right now. We'll see if his interest in playing is genuine or not. There are 32 teams. It only takes one to want him.
If he is willing to play for a small amount and be a clearcut backup, Seattle might be a good fit. Leftcoast fans wouldn't be too upset with his signing. He fits the system that is in place for Wilson. Sunshine Pete is very accommodating to his player's idiosyncrasies. But Kaep might prefer to play the martyr than accept being a backup for little money. He might make more money from Nike not playing, too.who wants that distraction?
Seattle already tried to work out a deal, and he turned it down. (Allegedly)If he is willing to play for a small amount and be a clearcut backup, Seattle might be a good fit. Leftcoast fans wouldn't be too upset with his signing. He fits the system that is in place for Wilson. Sunshine Pete is very accommodating to his player's idiosyncrasies. But Kaep might prefer to play the martyr than accept being a backup for little money. He might make more money from Nike not playing, too.
Shut your whore mouthplease Chicago. would be amazing. they deserve him in IL
They are such an enlightened state, they are almost obligated to sign himShut your whore mouth
Whatever his notoriety, it seems well earned.I think people are overestimating how much activism Kaep does in reality. He kneeled. He wears t-shirts. He makes Nike commercials. He wears pig cop socks. He did very little real activism to bring on his notoriety.
This quote from the writer is telling. The NFL does not want Kappy, and Kappy does not want the NFL.
I've been saying this from the get-go......no matter how you feel about Kaep, he's making money, and keeping himself relevant in the media.......he's had his chances to get back in the game, but he's either sabotaged them, or he wasn't willing to accept what was offered......thus, the martyr narrative can keep rolling and the endorsement money keep coming in.This quote from the writer is telling. The NFL does not want Kappy, and Kappy does not want the NFL.
"More than two years ago, I wrote that Kaepernick was finished as an NFL player. Through his actions, Kaepernick finally made it known to the NFL that the feeling is mutual."