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QB Dak Prescott, DAL (1 Viewer)

IHEARTFF said:
I don’t know about those. Seattle maybe. Arizona no. Rams eh probably not. 
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I don’t think Kyler is going to be a long-term winning NFL QB. He’s a fantastic fantasy option, but we’ll see. 
Stafford +McVay could end up a match made in heaven, but I don’t think he’s as good as Prescott

 
Andy Dufresne said:
We're losing the narrative here. In no way am I saying


Prescott


is better than


Rodgers


. 

I am saying that GB would love to have Dak on the roster in case things go sideways with AR.

And


Kyler Murray


is just a smaller


Prescott


. #shotfired
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You're saying that GB would rather Dak on their roster right now than AR 😂

 

 
travdogg said:
Top-8 NFL QB. He didn't commit 15+ penalties. Mike McCarthy lost that game. 

Dak could have played better, but he got almost no help. Lamb couldn't catch a cold, Zeke had a piano on his back, and should be a backup, and penalties kept putting them in bad situations. 
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Dallas lost to a better team.  Simple as that.  

 
travdogg said:
I really don't think they did. In my opinion, Dallas beat themselves. 

ETA: They were still in position to win, despite basically everything going wrong up to that point.
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Good teams don't put themselves behind the 8-ball constantly, so I agree that they played a part in their self destruction.  But San Francisco punched them in the mouth from the jump and Dallas never found their groove.  Reminded me of the Denver game....Dallas came into that cocky, got cute early with bad coaching decisions and Denver clobbered them.  

In the end, the NFC West is a far superior conference to the NFC East, iron sharpens iron, and San Francisco was the better team for 60 minutes.

 
travdogg said:
I really don't think they did. In my opinion, Dallas beat themselves. 

ETA: They were still in position to win, despite basically everything going wrong up to that point.
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Wow, really?  SF rolled their ### from the kick, you're focusing too much on the end.  That line was blowing them off the ball.  Do you not remember those first half drives.  Hell the very first drive had like 5 1st downs of over 10 yard gains right down their throat.  They looked like Alabama playing a Pac 12 team. 

Dallas was lucky it even got close.

 
Harry Frogfish said:
Wow, really?  SF rolled their ### from the kick, you're focusing too much on the end.  That line was blowing them off the ball.  Do you not remember those first half drives.  Hell the very first drive had like 5 1st downs of over 10 yard gains right down their throat.  They looked like Alabama playing a Pac 12 team. 

Dallas was lucky it even got close.
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Dallas kept holding them to FGs though. SF never pulled away, Dak hit Cooper for the long-ish TD, and then Jimmy G threw that awful INT. If Dallas has even 9 penalties instead of 15, I think they win that game. 

 
travdogg said:
Dallas kept holding them to FGs though. SF never pulled away, Dak hit Cooper for the long-ish TD, and then Jimmy G threw that awful INT. If Dallas has even 9 penalties instead of 15, I think they win that game. 
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There is a reason their team had a ridiculous 15 penalties.  It's because they are poorly coached.  This wasn't an outlier either, McCarthy's team led the entire league in penalties this year.  That's a joke.  And in a playoff game, for that serious issue not to be cleaned up, is even more inexcusable.

A good, or even average coach doesn't let that happen.  No discipline.  And all that talent.  Jerry Jones got what he deserved, again, the wrong head coach.  And I would also a horrible deal on an average QB.  That's on him.

Getting off topic somewhat, but to win only ONE Superbowl in 13 years with Aaron Rodgers as your QB is a massive fail.  How many do you think Bill B wins in that situation?  Or how do you think Bill B would've done with this Dallas roster this year?  I doubt they lose in the first round at home to an injured, average QB.  Not to mention the loss of Bosa for the 2nd half.

Look, I can't stand Bill B, but it is what it is.  And what it is, is AMAZING that McCarthy has been a HC in the NFL for this long.  I love it to be quite honest.

 
styleride85 said:
Ok well if AR leaves GB, then we can add his new team to the list of teams who wouldn't trade their QB for Dak
if AR stays, then GB wouldh't trade their QB for Dak.

Either way, AR's team belongs on the list of those who wouldn't prefer Dak.
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If AR leaves GB then his new team has a potentially one and done, hostage taker as their QB - and then THAT team would want a contingency plan. 

I said that easily 3/4 of the league would want him on their team. (That's probably an UNDERestimation because every team needs a good QB2, and he's better than every current QB2.)

YOU said "So that means you only 7 teams would pick their current qb over him?" Which is not what I said. 

 
Harry Frogfish said:
There is a reason their team had a ridiculous 15 penalties.  It's because they are poorly coached.  This wasn't an outlier either, McCarthy's team led the entire league in penalties this year.  That's a joke.  And in a playoff game, for that serious issue not to be cleaned up, is even more inexcusable.

A good, or even average coach doesn't let that happen.  No discipline.  And all that talent.  Jerry Jones got what he deserved, again, the wrong head coach.  And I would also a horrible deal on an average QB.  That's on him.

Getting off topic somewhat, but to win only ONE Superbowl in 13 years with Aaron Rodgers as your QB is a massive fail.  How many do you think Bill B wins in that situation?  Or how do you think Bill B would've done with this Dallas roster this year?  I doubt they lose in the first round at home to an injured, average QB.  Not to mention the loss of Bosa for the 2nd half.

Look, I can't stand Bill B, but it is what it is.  And what it is, is AMAZING that McCarthy has been a HC in the NFL for this long.  I love it to be quite honest.
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Other than calling Dak an average QB, I agree with all of this. 32 starters in the league, Dak is better than at least 20 of them. 

On a side note, everything you said about McCarthy in my opinion also kind of applies to Tony Dungy. Had a defense with 4 HOFers(Barber will get in eventually, and should have before Lynch honestly) and then went to another team with 4 HOFers, including arguably the best QB of all-time(Manning, James, Harrison, Freeney) and yet, 1 Super Bowl. 

 
Kirk Cousins plus. Needs things to go right, but is far more explosive of a play maker when things go right. When things go wrong, yikes, you saw it. But Dallas never helped itself with inefficient drives and penalties that killed drives. 2nd and shorts and 3rd and shorts are sooo advantageous for offenses, but they never find themselves in those it seems. It puts more pressure on the QB when they are moving the chains back constantly. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
If AR leaves GB then his new team has a potentially one and done, hostage taker as their QB - and then THAT team would want a contingency plan. 

I said that easily 3/4 of the league would want him on their team. (That's probably an UNDERestimation because every team needs a good QB2, and he's better than every current QB2.)

YOU said "So that means you only 7 teams would pick their current qb over him?" Which is not what I said. 
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lol, oh so now we're talking about teams wanting Dak as their backup? LOL.

Ok then sure, 32 teams would want Dak on their team.  C'mon man, "easily 3/4 of the league would want him on their team" definitely reads that they would want him as their starter.

 
Dak cant utilize any of his talent at WR on a consistent basis... Dinken and Dakin 

Borderline WestBrick of NFL QB's.... $40 million on the books your stuck with like the Lakers 

 
General Malaise said:
Dallas lost to a better team.  Simple as that.  
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And really should not have been as close as it was.  SF dominated the lines.

Jimmy G is a high backup quality QB and strikes no fear throwing downfield.

Dak did not play well, but not sure what Arizona is going to do with Murray. Probably the worst QB play I have even seen in a playoff game.  Too short too.

 
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styleride85 said:
lol, oh so now we're talking about teams wanting Dak as their backup? LOL.

Ok then sure, 32 teams would want Dak on their team.  C'mon man, "easily 3/4 of the league would want him on their team" definitely reads that they would want him as their starter.
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Do you always look to pick fights? 

Look, the point is, people hyperventilating about Dak not being a good starting QB need some perspective. There aren't many teams (the exact number is debatable, sure) for which Dak wouldn't be an upgrade. And the list is smaller when you consider teams with guys close to retirement. 

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
Do you always look to pick fights? 

Look, the point is, people hyperventilating about Dak not being a good starting QB need some perspective. There aren't many teams (the exact number is debatable, sure) for which Dak wouldn't be an upgrade. And the list is smaller when you consider teams with guys close to retirement. 
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Not picking a fight, I just disputed that at least 75% of the league would want him as their QB.  Dak would be an upgrade on probably 20 of 32 teams as their starter.

And I don't think Dak would be an upgrade over guys close to retirement (I'm assuming you're talking about Brady and Rodgers?)  I'm pretty sure neither Brady or Rodgers' team next year would trade them straight up for Dak.

 
styleride85 said:
Not picking a fight, I just disputed that at least 75% of the league would want him as their QB.  Dak would be an upgrade on probably 20 of 32 teams as their starter.

And I don't think Dak would be an upgrade over guys close to retirement (I'm assuming you're talking about Brady and Rodgers?)  I'm pretty sure neither Brady or Rodgers' team next year would trade them straight up for Dak.
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You're not even trying to follow the argument. Ignore time.

 
oswizzle said:
Dak cant utilize any of his talent at WR on a consistent basis... Dinken and Dakin 

Borderline WestBrick of NFL QB's.... $40 million on the books your stuck with like the Lakers 
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True, but finding a franchise QB in the NFL is ridiculously hard.  Half the teams in the league aren't set at QB right now.  Dak definitely has his shortcomings, and isn't elite, but I still think he's in the QB10-15 range, which puts him as a slightly above average starter.

 
That was nice of "Dak" to apologize via Twitter for his comments the other day about the fans throwing stuff at the officials, but it would have meant more done publicly and coming from his mouth rather than on Twitter through what looks like a prepared statement he probably didn't even write himself.  Came off more like damage control given how much blowback their was as opposed to being contrite.  I don't think Dak is a bad guy or anything because of this, but his image of being the all-around good guy who always says and does the right thing doesn't really exist anymore. 

 
did Dak lose his ability to run with the ankle injury last year?  There were several times he could've picked up significant yardage if he would've stepped up and ran vs forcing a pass/taking a sack.  

 
Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy said he hopes Dak Prescott will have more rushing opportunities in 2022. 

McCarthy implied that the team was careful with using Prescott as a runner in 2021, coming off a horrific leg injury in 2020. "We tried to be smart when we used him" as a runner, McCarthy said at the start of Dallas' mandatory minicamp. Prescott, 28, last year averaged three rushing attempts per game, down slightly from his career average of 3.7 rushes per game. Even a slight increase in designed runs -- especially near the end zone -- would bolster Prescott's fantasy outlook headed into 2022. 

SOURCE: Michael Gehlken on Twitter 

Jun 14, 2022, 11:57 AM ET
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Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy said he doesn't have "any concern" about Dak Prescott (ankle) playing Week 1 against the Bucs.​

McCarthy added the plan is for Prescott to be a full participant in practice Friday and Saturday. Prescott popped up on the injury report as a limited participant Thursday because of an ankle issue. The quarterback downplayed the injury to reports after practice. This sounds like a non-story, but Prescott's play in the team's opener will be the true test. Prescott remains a low-end QB1 for his high-scoring affair with Tampa Bay.
SOURCE: Jon Machota on Twitter
Sep 9, 2022, 11:22 AM ET
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FOX Sports's Jay Glazer reports Dak Prescott's x-rays came back negative after he suffered an ankle injury in practice Thursday.​

Glazer said Prescott felt a "pop" in his foot, but he got in a full practice the following day. Prescott may be a bit beat up entering Week 1, but a worst-case scenario was avoided. For a player who has been maligned by injuries in recent years, the negative x-rays garner a massive sigh of relief. Barring any further developments, Prescott can be safely started as a low-end QB1 for fantasy purposes. He takes on Tampa Bay in a game that should feature of plenty of points.
Sep 11, 2022, 12:18 PM ET
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Dak Prescott (hand) completed 14-of-29 passes for 134 yards and an interception in Dallas' 19-3 Week 1 loss to Tampa Bay before leaving the game in the fourth quarter.​

He added 11 rushing yards. While he was under siege behind a bad offensive line from the beginning, Prescott struggled even when able to move off his initial spot. He didn't seem to have much chemistry with Dennis Houston or Noah Brown, and missed a wide-open CeeDee Lamb on a fourth-down go that could have kept Dallas in the game in the third quarter. He appeared to bang his hand on multiple pass rushers in the fourth quarter and jogged off the field under his own power with about five minutes remaining, NBC sideline reporter Melissa Stark reported that Prescott was getting x-rays on his right hand. The Cowboys better hope the Bengals don't try to blitz them as often as Todd Bowles did in Week 2. Prescott has QB1 upside but will be hard to fully trust without better line play and full health.
Sep 11, 2022, 11:10 PM ET
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
“2. Prescott has QB1 upside but will be hard to fully trust without better line play and full health.”

I’m not sure I concur with this statement. At all. QB1? Like, better than Allen? Mahomie? C’mon.
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I know you're aware of what a RB1 or a QB1 means. They're not saying he's the best QB. Not that it matters now. He's irrelevant for a while.
 
Just announced 6-8 weeks.
7 weeks from today would mean he'd miss week 8, and they have a week 9 bye so it seems perfect that he'd return for week 10. May as well just do that.
 
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