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QB Jameis Winston, NYG (3 Viewers)
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Actually "start whichever one is not the starter" would have worked out pretty well this season.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
2 cans full of trash that need to be taken out by the Tampa organization this offseason.
For fantasy, get on board. He's total garbage as an NFL QB but he will put up big numbers if the turnovers don't hurt you.
fatness
Footballguy
The key to Fitzpatrick in fantasy ball is guessing how many games he'll maintain his high. Because he always crashes.
that's wht i thought 6 weeks ago when he got the job back... i keep blowing through FAAB money aquiring these two turnover machines.... will try again to get winston back.
Yeah I don't know how you trust either of these guys. You are seriously playing with fire.
You'd think Koetter would stick with Winston the whole game this week? But would anything surprise you with this team?
Think the only way I would start a Winston is if I was projected to lose by a lot. At that point, the hell with it. Put your chips all on red and hope for the best.
Steeler
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I need Winston to start the rest of the games this year because he's the only QB I have left in the Subscriber Contest.
NFL Network said his contract has an option for 21 million but it's only guaranteed if he gets hurt this year - is that right? I guess the Bucs aren't that concerned bout it since they played him yesterday - any speculation that the Bucs might sit him to avoid injury so they can dump him next year?
NFL Network said his contract has an option for 21 million but it's only guaranteed if he gets hurt this year - is that right? I guess the Bucs aren't that concerned bout it since they played him yesterday - any speculation that the Bucs might sit him to avoid injury so they can dump him next year?
The Frankman
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NeverEnough
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I might still play Bortles for Goff's bye anyway. This TB mess cannot be trusted
The Frankman
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I mean, it's the Niners in a shootout. I'm a Mahomes owner and he's on Bye Week 12; I have no issues taking Jameis at home vs. San Francisco.
I think you know the answer.
Anything seems possible with this team. I wouldn't be surprised if Winston starts, gets benched, Fitz comes in, and then he's benched...all in one game.
I wonder if this is a record for number of QB changes in one year (not due to injury).
Was planning on starting Trubisky for Mahomes' bye week, but God help me, I'm thinking about picking up Winston instead.
In related news, I'm considering getting back together with my ex-girlfriend. The sex was amazing but last time I suggested we take a break she carved the word "a##hole" into the side of my car and then sent a rambling email bad-mouthing me to all of my friends and coworkers. What do you think, yea or nay?
In related news, I'm considering getting back together with my ex-girlfriend. The sex was amazing but last time I suggested we take a break she carved the word "a##hole" into the side of my car and then sent a rambling email bad-mouthing me to all of my friends and coworkers. What do you think, yea or nay?
NeverEnough
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Synthesizer
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Bucs QBs are currently sitting at QB2 overall with an outside chance to pass Mahomes who is on bye this week. Bucs QBs averaging 375 yards and 2.5 TDs per game. Mahomes 330 yards and 3.4 TDs per game.
Unfortunately Bucs QBs have gotten benched in 30% of their games this year. So there is a huge risk there. But the payoff has been a top 2-3 QB in the other 70% of games. Just gotta figure out how much you are willing to risk.
Unfortunately Bucs QBs have gotten benched in 30% of their games this year. So there is a huge risk there. But the payoff has been a top 2-3 QB in the other 70% of games. Just gotta figure out how much you are willing to risk.
As a one-week bye fill-in and a good match-up, I'm willing to take the risk. But anything longer term, I'm not sure I'd be able to stomach it.
rockaction
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This season hasn't exactly turned out how the Bucs hoped, I think. It's pretty bad. Now they're yo-yoing these guys around and it can't possibly help Jameis' development.
LOL. I'm not sure anyone outside of the Winston family is all that concerned with his development at this point. Bucs are cleaning house the day after the season ends.
Yeah, saw that (although it sounds like he'll probably play). All the more reason to go with Winston.
rockaction
Footballguy
I guess they're not worried about sunk costs, then, huh?
1.01 is pretty tough for an organization to give up on so quickly on a guy, but hey, if the Glazers want to.
The whole point of sunk costs is that you're not supposed to worry about them. If the Glazers have overcome the irrational attachment people typically have to them, they should be applauded.
But it will probably more be a case that the only way to recruit a top coach/GM is by promising them they will have the opportunity to develop their own QB.
LionOfGosforth
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Same boat, Garropolo injured, Fitz/Winston merry go round. Picked up Mayfield, not bad but inconsistent Got so sick of it, I traded for Wentz and he cost me a win this week too by scoring ZERO. So jealous of those in my league with set and forget QBs like Mahomes and Brees.
LionOfGosforth
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I need to decide between Wentz after a horrible week and Winston, both decent matchups, both at home. I'd guess Winston is safe from getting benched for one week anyway.
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packer_junkie
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are you me?LionOfGosforth said:
literally same exact play by play except im in a 2 qb league and have wilson as well. Lost Garap, rode fitz till he crashed, added Bake, wasn’t getting enough so ponied up for Wentz. Back to fitz over wilson last two weeks- no throwing FAAB @ Winston to have 3 solid QBs hopefully although after last week, I’m worried about wentzWentz
The Frankman
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Mahomes owner, picked up Jameis for Week 12. He's at home and has a get-right spot vs. a shaky secondary. If he can get protection he's got a shot at a decent game.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
That's pretty weird lol! Well now we both have a decision this week. Wentz, Winston or Mayfield? Figure Mayfield's upside aint huge so i'm picking between the other two. Wentz, who already lit up the Giants once but coming off the worst game imaginable, or Winston who has a decent shot at big numbers. I'm thinking Winston...not 100% yet. I suppose you could go Wilson, I don't have that option.
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packer_junkie
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Yea, I need to pick 2 of the 3.
leaning Wentz and Wilson until I see it from jameis but then my gut says go with the two dudes who are gonna throw it 35+ in Wentz and Jameis.....
ahhhhh I’m sure I’ll pick wrong
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Are we under the impression Tampa couldn't win with Winston at QB running this offense, or someone else's offense, if the defense wasn't somewhat improved? They've lost 5 games where they scored 27+ points. Certainly the QB play, especially turnovers, have contributed to some of those losses. But, there are so many weapons here it seems silly to start over with a rookie QB or journeyman free agent just out of spite for Jameis.
They're only committed to him, technically, through next year anyway. Re-tool the coach/schemes, and see if anything changes with a full off-season free of distractions.
habsfan
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My armchair assessment is that he is a broad spectrum of tremendous and horrendous and after 45 plus starts (?), there's not much sign of him expunging that "horrendous" from his game. The ability he has is obvious and enticing but the "awful" always overshadows it sooner or later. Tampa needs to consider that the time to attribute this to youth or inexperience or supporting cast may be past. There are "data points" of conventional wisdom that can be used to argue it's too early to give up on him but what if he just is what he is? I don't see a player right now that is going to put them on a play-off trajectory against QBs that are (generally speaking) far less prone to self-destruct. I'm not really factoring in the knucklehead part either because there are enough enduring issues on the field but if Tampa needs a "tie-breaker" for their decision-making process, he appears to be a knucklehead.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Fair enough.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Again, Mahomes on Bye so I'm happy.
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Futz
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He's a streaky dude but can be quite effective from a FF standpoint. Glad to scoop him up this week since Watson has been relegated to QB2 status due to play calling.
He's basically auditioning for his career down the stretch here and with that defense, it sets up real well for a good finish.
He's basically auditioning for his career down the stretch here and with that defense, it sets up real well for a good finish.
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