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Took teams long enough but they finally figured out that you take Evans out of the game. I was wonder if it was going to have to wait until Belicheck got a hold of TB for the rest of the league to figure it out.
Settle down Frances.......both QB's have been playing well, Dak was a little better, that's all......and the Cowboys defense was a little better than the Bucs defense.
It's easy to credit his OL with being the reason he is experiencing so much success. I understand the thought process behind it. Is it true? Partially. Yes, he's benefiting from having that great OL. No, not everybody could be playing as well as him under the same conditions. Look at Matt Cassell, Kellen Moore and Brandon Weeden from 2015. They were awful. So it's certainly not a situation where anybody could succeed there just because they have a dominant OL. It certainly helps, but that's not the sole reason. Dak has been cool under pressure, accurate, consistent and makes good decisions. He seems to have a really good grasp of the offense and makes pre and post-snap reads at a higher level than we are accustomed to seeing by rookie QBs.
I agree, for the majority of the game he played poorly. But again, there was constant pressure on him almost the entire game and he had to get the ball out earlier than he wanted to. It would be silly to blame Jameis for all the mishaps on offense. That's not to say he wasn't a problem, as he definitely was. He missed high on some throws, overthrowing Evans on 3rd and 18 was completely inexcusable. While Winston wasn't good, Gosder Cherilus had one of the worst individual performances I have ever seen from an OT. That was absolutely pathetic.
They need to focus on finding OL and a WR this off-season. Their defense has done well lately and they obviously have many of the other pieces. You gotta give the kid something to work with. Hopefully he doesn't even up like Luck, playing behind a terrible OL his entire career because his GM is a moron.
Yes, Dak outplayed Jameis, and yes the Cowboys would have won by multiple TD's if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot (not sure what that even has to do with anything). However, if you watched the game last night, you would clearly see that Jameis is in a 100x more difficult situation than Dak was.
Yes, sadly, but it is mainly trolls/Jameis haters who are trashing him. For whatever reason, a lot of people don't understand that football is a team sport and you can't blame/give credit to the QB for everything that happens. Anyone who knows football and watches Bucs games understands that Jameis is still very young and has shown a ton of potential, but has been held back by a weak supporting cast. And that's not to say he is perfect, because he does still make a good amount of boneheaded decisions and needs to cut down on the turnovers, but the guy is only 22 and I believe he will learn from this and get better. I think he'll always be a gunslinger and make risky throws to an extent, but he can get better with it.
He's thrown 15 picks on the year. 7 of them have come in 2 games. In his last 9 games before this one he had 4 total interceptions.
Because this is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Not saying the stat doesn't count but it needs to be excused. You should be praising Jameis for having the nuts to throw his stats out the window actually trying to get the ball down in the endzone. Otherwise you end up with the absolute re#### screens on the last play of a game when a team is trailing and they need 70 yards for the TD. Like Stafford yesterday. And a million others I see weekly because the QB is too afraid to throw a hail mary pick. I saw Brees do it a few weeks ago, and others. Nobody throws hail Mary's anymore and it p*sses me off cause I can't remember a single time I've seen a hail mary screen go 80 yards for a TD yet teams continue to do it each week for like the past two years now. These QBS needs to grow a f###ing pair and try to win the game instead of padding their INT count and completion %.
Not saying you're a troll and I am definitely fine with criticism of Jameis. As I have said before, he needs to cut down on the boneheaded decisions and his accuracy is still inconsistent. The missed deep ball to Evans just can't happen.
If you're going to play the "but it wasn't his fault" game, the TD wasn't his "fault" either; it was a ball floated into double coverage that should have been another INT.
That's kinda funny when you look at Bronco Billy's post where it's all Winston and he has put the team on his back. That was funny by the way. Guess you are referring to him because man, that defense has been what has carried this team.
You won't hear a peep about that from these homers. Pure luck is what that was. Notice not one of them has mentioned the stupidity of the headbutt.
So let me understand this better.
Pretty funny huh?
"I'll headbutt you. Here Doug, let me help you up, nobody saw my sneaky headbutt. Huh, what?" The Look of total stupidity.Yes, as I said earlier in my post, I would like for him to cut down on the boneheaded decisions. While that ended up working in our favor, Winston should have just ran for the 1st down and kept the drive alive. He made another play similar in the 3rd quarter on a 3rd down where he threw across his body to Brate instead of just running for the 1st down. Both ended up working and were huge plays, but I think sometimes Jameis is looking to be the hero when he just needs to keep the drive going. Part of that it his gunslinging mentality, which I'm okay with, but he still needs to cut down on it a bit and take what's there at times.
You know he did that because he felt Martin was thrown to the ground after the whistle (he was). But the headbutt was pretty obvious and a stupid move.Pretty funny huh?
Another angle of Winston's signature move. It seems he thinks he's somehow sneaking it in there.
Ndamukong Suh mentality right there.
The defense has obviously been the main reason for the turn around and recent 5 game win streak. No sane Buc fan would disagree with that. That doesn't mean Jameis hasn't had a big effect in this as well because he definitely has. Jameis' leadership and attitude has helped change the Bucs losing culture and they are clearly learning how to win games and compete with the best teams in the league. Other than yesterday, he was also doing his job, finding the open receivers and cutting down on the mistakes/turnovers.
I didn't say anything about Dak last week. I think Dak has done an excellent job this year at doing what he needs to do, which is make the right reads to the open receiver and not turn the ball over. I do think people have overreacted to Dak's performance over the past 2 weeks because he's the QB and everyone blames the QB when the offense struggles. Look at what everyone was saying about Aaron Rodgers about a month ago. It also doesn't help that he's on the media darling Cowboys and has Romo breathing behind his back who a lot of people love and respect. With that being said, it's also clear that Dak has an incredible supporting cast and this makes his job much easier to do, so when he isn't at his best, people may complain a lot because he's in such a good position to succeed.
You can call it a minor negativity if you like but the guy has a history of bad decisions and regardless of what he says, he just proved that, like Suh, he will continue making bad decisions going forward. It's one thing to grab the defender and push him, but an attempt at sneaking in a headbutt? He has learned nothing from past mistakes. Other teams take notes and the book on this guy is get him rattled and he will go off his rocker. He showed them that he cannot control himself in the face of adversity. Time will tell if he fixes his mental issues.
Last night was the first Bucs game I watched in a while. Maybe in past weeks teams took Evans away, but not last night - that was all Winston with bad passes or failing to throw him the ball when open. If he's really their only weapon, maybe he should throw to him more often & more accurately.Bucsfan5493 said:
WheelsUp said:
Have the exact same decision and no clue what i'm going to do at this point. Have Evans as well, so I'd be going all in on TB passing game, which doesn't feel great after the past few weeks.
I haven't watched the all-22 so I don't really know if Evans was open all game though. Based off of the defensive coverages, it looked like Carr was following Evans around and almost always seemed to have safety help. I remember a play early in the game when he had single coverage with Carr and Jameis realized and threw it to him right away and drew the DPI. I don't remember too many missed throws to Evans. I think I remember one ball going too high over the middle, and then obviously the overthrow on 3rd and 18 was really bad. He was double covered on that overthrow too, Evans just happened to beat them both.
If I were in your situation, I don't think I could live with myself if I started Eli in my championship and he had an "Eli game" (you know it's coming at some point). Jameis may not outscore him, but he's definitely the safer play.
I just fixed my debate by releasing Eli. And this reasoning is why...
My work here is done. Always nice to get one more good deed in before the holidays.
Keep an eye on whether or not Dotson plays. If he doesn't Winston is going to continue to get pressured from the right side of the line.
Neither.
Maybe you should watch him play more often to help you form a more knowledge based opinion?
